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Mike
01-23-2004, 06:08 PM
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Genre: Comedy, Drama and Romance

PLOT:

Christian (Wes Ramsey), a hunky, 20-something, West Hollywood party boy gets more than he bargains for when he tries to seduce 19-year-old Elder Aaron Davis (Steve Sandvoss), a sexually confused Mormon missionary who moves into his apartment complex. When Christian exposes Davis' secret sexual desire, Davis' rejects Christian for being shallow and empty, The encounter shatters each boy's reality and draws the two into a passionate romance that risks destroying their lives. Latter Days is a charming, sexy, and moving tale that will leave you believing in the transformational power of love.


Release Date: January 30th, 2004 (LA/NY); expands to other cities at later dates

Starring: Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Rebekah Jordan, Wesley A. Ramsey, Jacqueline Bisset, Steve Sandvoss
Directed by: C. Jay Cox
Produced by: Jennifer Schaefer, Kirkland Tibbels


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FILM JOURNAL REVIEW:

A total clash of cultures occurs when Mormon missionary Elder Aaron Davis (Steve Sandvoss) moves into the same Hollywood complex as gay party boy Christian (Wesley A. Ramsey). Aaron’s non-partying, religiously proselytizing ways puzzle and intrigue Christian, and an uneasy attraction eventually forms between them. When they are discovered in an embrace, all hell breaks loose.

Latter Days is obviously a deeply personal statement from writer-director C. Jay Cox, and some fascinating, fearsome information about the Mormon Church gets imparted. Despite the frequent obviousness of the script and direction (get that name—Christian!), the story attains an undeniable, if somewhat soap opera-like, power. This is largely due to Sandvoss’ quietly committed performance, a vital journey from repression through personal torment and eventual self-acceptance. Ramsey is rather less of an actor in his big dramatic scenes, but does vividly convey the initial flighty, horny quality of his no-flies-on-me character. The actors manage to get a convincingly intense and sensuous chemistry going. Their romance is particularly hard-won, and it would really take a heart of stone not to ultimately root for them, through all the melodramatic vicissitudes they’re put through. (Even Lillian Gish in her silent days never had it this rough.) Eric Allaman’s music score is, however, a detriment, as are the sappy Cox-composed songs laid into the soundtrack. (George Cukor once observed that most wise directors realize that they cannot do it all: direct, write, compose music, design, etc.)

Cox has surrounded his leads with a colorful assortment of cast-mates. Jacqueline Bisset seems to enjoy herself, playing Christian’s omniscient restaurant owner boss with all the worldly aplomb of Jeanne Moreau. Mary Kay Place brings a scary strength to the role of Aaron’s resolutely homophobic mother. Rebekah Johnson plays Christian’s sassy black gal pal (a new, clichéd must in gay films these days) and shows off an attractive singing voice. And there’s a raucous bunch of white-shirted-and-tied Mormon missionaries, bursting with libido and frat-boy bonhomie.

—David Noh


MOVIE PIE REVIEW:


LATTER DAYS

2003 – USA Director: C. Jay Cox Starring: Wesley A. Ramsey, Steve Sandvoss, Jacqueline Bisset, Mary Kay Place, Erik Palladino, Amber Benson, Joseph Gordon-Levitt

-Reviewed by Linda

I'm sure I'm not the only one who didn't expect much from Latter Days, a gay romance/comedy/drama from C. Jay Cox, whose most well-known previous venture was writing the screenplay for the popular but eyeball-rolling mainstream romantic comedy Sweet Home Alabama. Regardless of whether that movie was a fluke of his talents, or this movie is, I will say right now that I wasn't the only one in the packed festival audience that was moved to tears by the end of this impressive directing debut. It ended up winning the Audience Award at the Seattle Lesbian and Gay Film Festival.

L.A. pretty-boy Christian (Wesley A. Ramsey) is blessed with modelesque good looks, and the effortless ability to pick up and take home any man he wants—even if the guy is seemingly straight! One day, a group of clean-cut guys move into a neighboring apartment, and Christian rubs his hands with the possibilities. But, alas! The fellows are Mormon missionaires! Rather than serving as a deterrent, of course the sitution presents itself as his biggest challenge yet. At the fine restaurant where he waits table, Christian's co-workers wager bets on whether or not he can bed one of the missionary boys, and he accepts the challenge with glee.

The focus of Christian's attentions is sweetly handsome Aaron (Steve Sandvoss) who initially falls for Christian's moves, but then backs off reluctantly. Christian is frustrated, but not because of his winning bet being thwarted. He finds himself really liking Aaron, and surprises himself by wanting to prove to him that he is not shallow. As for Aaron, the tension does not come from finding out whether or not he is gay, or whether or not he is attracted to Christian... that is presumed from early on. But the dramatic tension (the film takes a rather dark turn mid-way) is how Aaron's homosexuality will affect his relationship with the church. Aaron has to come out to his religion and face the consequences.

Latter Days had the ripe opportunity to become cringe-inducing. It could have been a diatribe against the beliefs and lifestyle of Mormons, mocking the missionaries for their backward and ultra-conservative ways. But Latter Days impressively treats the religion with respect. Aaron is portrayed as a truly spiritual person; of the four missionaries, he is the best example of a young man who earnestly and selflessly wants to share the beliefs that give him the comfort of knowing his place in the world. It is Aaron's struggle with coming out to the church, and risk being excommunicated because of it, that is the true drama of the film.

But don't let the darkness of the previous paragraph deter you from seeing this film! The writing is sharp and funny (what happened with Sweet Home, I have no idea), and the supporting characters are all well-written and perfectly cast, from Joseph Gordon-Levitt as the hyperly-righteous Mormon, to Jacqueline Bisset as the manager and mother hen of the restaurant employees, to Erik Palladino as an AIDS-stricken man who makes Christian acknowledge and accept his flaws.

But the heart of the film is Steve Sandvoss as Aaron. His character is so sweet and genuine, that you can't help but feel for his heart-wrenching decision—whichever path he chooses, you don't want him to get hurt. In the same way that Aaron has a positive effect on Christian, making a good person better, Steve Sandvoss takes a good movie and makes it pretty darn great.


Rating: 7/8


PLANET SICK BOY REVIEW:

Latter Days

C. Jay Cox, USA, 110 minutes

9:15 p.m. Friday, October 3, Little Theatre


C. Jay Cox, the screenwriter of the abysmal Sweet Home Alabama, shows far more promise with Latter Days, his directorial debut. The film starts with the familiar cliché of throwing together two very different people who, even though their relationship is prickly at first, will no doubt ride off into the sunset together...or at least that's how it seems. Cox's story takes a couple of surprising twists and turns, which makes you wonder how badly Hollywood may have ruined his story for Alabama.

Christian (Wesley A. Ramsey) is a man-eater with the body of a Greek god who works at a restaurant with a bunch of other aspiring actors and singers (one is everyone's second favorite lesbian witch --- Amber Benson). Aaron (Steve Sandvoss) is the uptight Mormon who moves in next door to Christian. Will they be able to get over their differences in order to get it on? With touches of As Good As it Gets and Jacqueline Bisset, does it really matter?

Lynn Minmei
01-23-2004, 06:14 PM
Kind of a controversial movie, but likely won't have much more controversy due to limited release.

Mike
01-23-2004, 06:14 PM
So far I haven't heard anything bad about this movie. I saw the trailer a month ago and I thought it looked pretty good, but since then the reviews have gotten me even more interested. For the kind of movie it is, it looks to be more mainstream, like Kissing Jessica Stein. No, it doesn't look like the movie Kissing Jessica Stein, but for the subject matter, that one was pretty mainstream, and this one seems to be too.

If this comes to a theater around here, I'll check it out. There's a chance that could happen too since it seems tame enough. But if it does come near me, it probably wouldn't be for a month or so after it's released. In the meantime, I might just read the book first.

Sad man
01-23-2004, 11:49 PM
I want to see this.

paul
01-24-2004, 08:31 AM
It looks good, if it comes to a theater to me, I'll see it, if not, it'll be on my Netflix list. I've loved The Trip and Kissing Jessica Stein, so I am sure I'd like this.

Mike
01-24-2004, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Lynn Minmei
Kind of a controversial movie, but likely won't have much more controversy due to limited release.

It should make it to at least 100 theaters. It's supposed to play in at least 50 markets over the course of two months. I think it might see a release similar to Kissing Jessica Stein, and will maybe be a sleeper as well.

Here's a list of cities it's opening in for now:

January 30

New York City, NY/Quad Cinema
Los Angeles, CA/Regent Showcase
Pasadena, CA/Laemmle Playhouse
Irvine, CA/Regal University 6


February 13

Chicago, IL/The Music Box Theatre
Palm Springs, CA/Camelot Theatre


February 20

South Beach, FL/Regal South Beach
Ft. Lauderdale, FL/Gateway Theatres


Cities Coming Soon - Check back frequently to find out dates!


February

Dallas, TX
Houston, TX

March

Philadelphia, PA
Boston, MA
Washington, DC

April

San Francisco, CA
Berkeley, CA
San Jose, CA

Kim_EZ
01-24-2004, 08:47 PM
I've already seen this. It's a pretty good movie, but not really funny. The ending is sweet.

Sad man
01-25-2004, 04:40 AM
Originally posted by Kim_EZ
I've already seen this. It's a pretty good movie, but not really funny. The ending is sweet.

Oh, I didn't know it was a comedy. I thought it was just a drama and not a mix of both. I didn't read Mike's first post ;).

Mike
01-25-2004, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Sad man
Oh, I didn't know it was a comedy. I thought it was just a drama and not a mix of both. I didn't read Mike's first post ;).

If you would have seen it thinking it was just a drama then you probably would have found it surprisingly funny ;).

Kim_EZ
01-25-2004, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Sad man
Oh, I didn't know it was a comedy. I thought it was just a drama and not a mix of both. I didn't read Mike's first post ;).

I thought of it as a dramedy (drama/comedy).

badberry
02-02-2004, 05:22 PM
No thanks.

Mike
02-02-2004, 09:09 PM
LATTER DAYS opened with $57,242 in 4 theaters for an awesome per-screen average of $14,310. It was #48 for the weekend.

I hope this one continues to do well, and eventually goes wide enough so I can see it. I hope it's at least a Kissing Jessica Stein sized hit.

In Comparison:

Kissing Jessica Stein opening weekend - #30/26 theaters/$346,999/Per-Screen Average: $13,346

Mike
02-04-2004, 10:49 AM
This is from gaywired.com :


LATTER DAYS has Powerhouse First Weekend
02.04.04

TLA Releasing and Funny Boy Films are proud to announce that Latter Days, the first film in their partnership to produce and distribute quality gay-themed films, had the highest per-screen average in box office receipts for any film that debuted the weekend of January 30. It also took second place in per-screen average for all theatricals playing on January 30-February 1.
According to the February 3, 2004, Variety, Latter Days' average was $14,311, surpassed only by the mountaineering documentary Touching the Void, which earned a mere $500 more than the gay romantic drama. Latter Days was also among Variety's top 50 films in total box office receipts for the weekend, with a total of $57,242.

The film opened January 30 in four markets: New York, Los Angeles, Irvine (CA) and Pasadena (CA). Latter Days was written and directed by C. Jay Cox, screenwriter of Sweet Home Alabama, in his directorial debut. It stars Steve Sandvoss and Wes Ramsey in their feature film debuts as a closeted Mormon missionary and West Hollywood party boy, respectively, who fall in love. The cast also includes Jacqueline Bisset, Mary Kay Place, Joseph Gordon-Levitt ("Third Rock from the Sun") and Erik Palladino ("ER").

Latter Days is the first film to come out of a unique partnership between the distribution company TLA Releasing and the production company Funny Boy Films. Together they will produce and distribute as many as ten gay and lesbian-themed films over the next three to four years.

"Latter Days proves that gay cinema is far from dead, especially when it deals with provocative issues in an entertaining way," says Raymond Murray, president of TLA Releasing. "We are extremely pleased and gratified that audiences have responded so enthusiastically to our film."

"Our mission is to present the next generation of gay films to an audience that is hungry to see their stories told authentically," said Funny Boy Films president Kirkland Tibbels. "Latter Days demonstrates our commitment to provide films that speak to the gay and lesbian experience, but also touch and inspire all audiences, regardless of orientation."

The box office successes were matched by critical acclaim, as Latter Days received glowing to rave reviews in the national film, gay/lesbian, New York and Los Angeles press:

"A new generation of gay drama .. (C. Jay Cox) has some substantial things to say.. A particularly subtle, convincing performance from Mr. Sandvoss, who.gives Aaron a dignity, sweetness and humor." - David Kehr, New York Times

"An assured first feature..A dynamic film filled with humor and pathos.. Cox (is) an exceptional screenwriter (and) also an astute director.. Rings true to the workings of the human heart." - Kevin Thomas, Los Angeles Times

"A powerful, moving story of love and faith..A deeply personal statement from writer-director C. Jay Cox.. The romance is particularly hard-won, and it would really take a heart of stone not to ultimately root for them." - David Noh, Film Journal International

"Satisfyingly heartbreaking..The film works because Ramsey and Sandvoss are so appealing together." - Frank DeCaro, The Advocate

"A profoundly felt meditation on the nature of religion, commitment, modern gay life, friendship and disease ..The best and most important gay film of the past few years." - Steve Weinstein, New York Blade

"Superbly written and surprisingly touching..You may not want the film to end - yes, it's that good.A gust of fresh air in the gay sub-genre..It's one of the best gay films of the past ten years." - Matthew Dalton, IN Los Angeles

The critical response is especially gratifying, given the recent controversy surrounding the film. Latter Days had been scheduled to open in Salt Lake City on January 30, but it was pulled at the last minute by the theater owners, claiming it lacked sufficient "artistic quality and integrity." Insiders, however, admitted that the theater company was being threatened with boycotts, protests, and membership cancellations from religious groups.

Because of the positive reaction from audiences and critics alike, TLA Releasing will expand Latter Days' release schedule over the next few weeks, according to Murray. The film's current schedule is: February 13: Chicago (Music Box Theater), Palm Springs (Camelot) February 20: Miami (Regal South Beach), Fort Lauderdale (Gateway) March 12: Boston (Landmark Kendall Square) For more information, visit www.latterdaysthemovie.com or www.tlareleasing.com.

That's very cool news. Hopefully it expands a good amount. Of course, they'd be best to take it slow, otherwise it won't do as well. It has to crossover to the mainstream audience, most of whom don't know about it, unless you're a movie fan who knows what's coming out, mormon (or any other religious group), gay/lesbian, etc...

paul
02-14-2004, 04:36 PM
After reading some reviews, I'm REALLY looking forward to this. It sounds great. I think it's supposed to come near me in April, so I want to check it out then.

paul
02-14-2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Mike
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It's even better that both of the guys look really sexy...:D

Mike
02-14-2004, 05:27 PM
A shitload of areas have been added to this movie.


April 2

Philadelphia, PA - Ritz Theatre

Tampa, FL - Regal Channelside Stadium 9

Orlando, FL - Regal Winter Park Stadium 20

Denver, CO - Landmark's Mayan Theatre

Detroit, MI - Landmark's Main Art Theatre

St. Louis, MO - Landmark's Tivoli Theatre


March 26

Santa Fe, NM - Regal DeVargas Mall 6

Albuquerque, NM - Regal High Ridge 8


March 19

Las Vegas, NV - Regal Village Square Stadium 18


March 12

Boston, MA - Landmark's Kendall Square Cinema

Washington, DC - Landmark's E Street Cinemas

Baltimore, MD - Charles Theatre

Seattle, WA - Landmark's Harvard Exit Theatre


March 5

Houston, TX - Angelika Film Center

Austin, TX - Regal Arbor Cinema @ Great Hills

San Antonio, TX - Regal Fiesta Stadium 16

San Diego, CA - Landmark's Hillcrest Cinemas


Feb. 27

Dallas, TX - Regent Highland Park


Feb. 20

South Beach, FL - Regal South Beach 16

Ft. Lauderdale, FL - Gateway Theatre

Atlanta, GA - UA Tara 4


Feb. 13

Palm Springs, CA - Camelot Theatre

Chicago, IL - The Music Box Theatre


Jan. 30

New York City, NY - Quad Cinema

Los Angeles, CA - Regent Showcase

Pasadena, CA - Laemmles Playhouse

Irvine, CA - Edwards University 6


March

Long Beach, CA
Salt Lake City, UT
Santa Rosa, CA
San Francisco, CA
Berkeley, CA
San Jose, CA
Burlington, VT

April

Minneapolis, MN
Durham, NC
Portland, OR


Coming Soon - Check back frequently to find out dates!


Cleveland, OH
Columbus, OH
Cincinnati, OH
Nashville, TN
Memphis, TN
Phoenix, AZ
Scottsdale, AZ
New Orleans, LA
Kansas City, KS
Indianapolis, IN
Des Moines, IA
Milwaukee, WI
Madison, WI
Rochester, NY
Buffalo, NY
Pittsburgh, PA
Provincetown, MA
Fargo, ND
Louisville, KY

Mike
02-14-2004, 05:36 PM
LATTER DAYS dropped four spots to number 58 last weekend. It had a 40.7% drop from last weekend. The theater count remained the same (4). It grossed $33,956 for a still great per-screen average of $8,489. Its total was then at $110,499.

In comparison, MIRACLE had a lower per-screen average of $7,438, and BARBERSHOP 2 had a slightly better per-screen average of $8,941. It was still the 5th best per-screen average of the top 58. Since it's doing so well, that's probably why it was booked in so many more cities.

paul
02-14-2004, 05:38 PM
Here's another picture...


*EARASED PICTURE BECAUSE IT WAS TOO BIG* ;)

paul
02-14-2004, 05:42 PM
For those who have seen it, how bad content wise is it? I'm seeing it with my mom, so I need a warning. ;)

Mike
02-14-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by paul
For those who have seen it, how bad content wise is it? I'm seeing it with my mom, so I need a warning. ;)

I think it's supposed to have a couple of swear words, and then it has nudity.

dellamorte dellamore
02-15-2004, 10:23 AM
If it wasn't about two gay guys would it be getting as much " buzz " as it is .


All i need to see is that pic of them in bed and it's time to pass on this one , no matter how good the script of acting may be . I don't even want to see two women kissing , but that's just me .

paul
02-17-2004, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore

All i need to see is that pic of them in bed and it's time to pass on this one , no matter how good the script of acting may be . I don't even want to see two women kissing , but that's just me .

Why are you so homophobic? No offense, but I really don't understand it, don't you think people should live their lives like they want to, no matter what sex they are?

Mike
02-17-2004, 09:45 PM
It's still doing well. This last weekend it grossed $36,155 from 6 (+2) theaters for a $6,025 per-screen average for the 3-Day weekend. It was up 6.5%.

For the 4-Day weekend, it grossed $45,273 for a per-screen average of $7,545. That puts its total at $168,426. It should be able to cross the $200,000 mark this next weekend, but if not, it will be damn close to it.

dellamorte dellamore
02-17-2004, 10:05 PM
Nah , has nothing to do with guys , in all honesty , i would consider myself sexaphobic . Not afraid of it , not exactly obsessed with it , just uncomfortable about the proposition ( because of all the nonsense that it entails ) . Although i do enjoy it , in the " right " situation .


Forget about that , my real point is that i get the feeling the film is merely a middle of the road dramatic offering , that seeks to somewhat shock with it's homosexual themes . Maybe it will be effective , who knows , but the initial buzz is mainly a result of the male to male sexual relationship at it's core .


It's not something shocking anymore , but i guess if we can be exposed to silly " straight " romantic fare , why not ones that go the other way ?


So , ultimately , it's not the homosexual aspect that turns me off , it's the romantic one that does , in any form .

badberry
02-18-2004, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by paul
Why are you so homophobic? No offense, but I really don't understand it, don't you think people should live their lives like they want to, no matter what sex they are?

He didn't say anything of that sort...he said he the picture turned him off, which is perfectly fine, it was enough to make me pass on this too. I have no problem with people living the way they want, but I'd really rather not watch 2 guys get it on, blech.

I agree with what dellamorte said, I'm guessing this is a mediocre movie that has only gotten buzz because of the gayness.

Mike
02-19-2004, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by badberry
I agree with what dellamorte said, I'm guessing this is a mediocre movie that has only gotten buzz because of the gayness.

No way, there's a ton of "gay films" that don't have any buzz. Just because a movie has gay characters doesn't mean it's going to give it buzz and cause a stir. The main reason this one had so much buzz was because a lot of mormons were having a cow over it, most of them without even seeing it. Some cities even have petitions going around to try and stop it from showing there. One theater that was supposed to show it in Salt Lake City caved due to pressure from mormon groups. Of course, they obviously made up a lie to try and cover up that that's what happened.

This is from another thread that was in the Upcoming section about what happened. It's from Yahoo News:


Utah theater cancels gay film's screenings
Wed Jan 21,12:07 AM ET


SUMMARY: Distributors of the gay-themed film "Latter Days" are accusing a Salt Lake City theater owner of bowing to pressure from the Mormon Church to cancel the film's engagement there.



Distributors and makers of the gay-themed film "Latter Days" are protesting a decision to pull the film from a Salt Lake City theater, accusing the art house movie chain that owns the theater of bowing to pressure from the Mormon Church.


"Latter Days," the story of a young Mormon who falls in love with another man while on a missionary assignment in Los Angeles, has been playing at film festivals around the country and was scheduled to open in New York, Los Angeles and Salt Lake City on Jan. 30. Madstone Theaters, a New York-based theater chain, was supposed to screen "Latter Days" at its Salt Lake City four-screen complex, which opened last fall.


On Monday executives at TLA Releasing, which is distributing the film, held a press conference in Park City, Utah, to denounce the decision. Park City is the home of the Sundance Film Festival (news - web sites), which opened days ago.


"We are extremely upset that 'Latter Days' currently has no venue to premiere in Salt Lake City," said Raymond Murray, president of TLA Releasing. "We picked up the film through our partnership with production company Funny Boy Films, because of writer-director C. Jay Cox's amazing ability to tell a story about a man's struggle in dealing with his sexuality and faith, a subject many gays and lesbians can certainly relate to."


TLA executives said at the press conference that an inside source at Madstone informed the film's distributor it was canceling the film's opening date in Salt Lake City, and that Madstone was being threatened with boycotts and protests from religious groups.


According to TLA, Madstone's president and co-CEO, Thomas Gruenberg, confirmed the threats but denied that they were the cause of the cancellation. Gruenberg told TLA the film failed to meet the company's standards of "artistic quality and integrity," and failed to tell a story that was sufficiently "compelling" or "gripping."


When asked if the decision was going to mean the cancellation of potential screenings of "Latter Days" at other Madstone Theaters, Gruenberg allegedly stated that this decision was just for Salt Lake City.


Madstone did not respond to requests for comment from the Gay.com/PlanetOut.com Network by press time.


At the press conference Murray was joined by Stephen Gutwillig, executive director of the Los Angeles-based GLBT film festival Outfest; a spokesperson from the media watchdog group Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD); and the executive director of local GLBT rights group Equality Utah.


"The theatre chain's refusal to play this film after booking the film in Salt Lake City is another example of the right wing's efforts to censor our gay and lesbian stories," said Stephen Macias, entertainment media director for GLAAD.


At the press conference Murray also read a statement from Cox, who had been screening the film at the Palm Springs, Calif., international film festival the night before.


"I find it quite sad that any conservative group would attempt to take such a choice away from the people of Salt Lake City," Cox said in his letter. "I truly hope that we will be allowed to screen this movie and give people the opportunity to discuss the issues it raises and to judge its 'artistic quality and integrity' for themselves."


What I find funny is that this comment couldn't have been more of a lie:

According to TLA, Madstone's president and co-CEO, Thomas Gruenberg, confirmed the threats but denied that they were the cause of the cancellation. Gruenberg told TLA the film failed to meet the company's standards of "artistic quality and integrity," and failed to tell a story that was sufficiently "compelling" or "gripping."


That's fucking hilarious! It's a pathetic excuse when you know damn well that wouldn't stop them from showing something that was going to be a guaranteed $$$ maker. I highly doubt the movie "not living up to their standards" would stop them from showing something like FREDDY VS. JASON 2, SPIDER-MAN 2, STAR WARS: EPISODE 3, etc... I bet they even showed GLITTER, FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY, etc... Does that mean that they loved those movies so much that they just had to show them? I highly fucking doubt it. Next time I recommend coming up with a better excuse. ;)

And, the weekend that Latter Days was originally supposed to show there, they showed Orgazmo. Yeah, because I'm sure it's full of artistic merit :rolleyes:.

Mike
02-19-2004, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by badberry
He didn't say anything of that sort...he said he the picture turned him off, which is perfectly fine, it was enough to make me pass on this too. I have no problem with people living the way they want, but I'd really rather not watch 2 guys get it on, blech.


Actually, the comment did seem homophobic, until he explained what he meant. Your comment is pretty much homophobic though. There's practically no way to deny that this comment isn't homophobic: but I'd really rather not watch 2 guys get it on, blech. It should be seen as two "people," not two guys. And it's not like it's a porno and you'll have to see a bunch of penis shots. It's just one scene of two people being intimate. I fail to see why it should make people uncomfortable. None of my male friends are made uncomfortable by two guys kissing or having sex, and they're all very straight. And none of my female friends are made uncomfortable by two girls kissing or having sex, and they're all very straight. It personally doesn't bother me at all either, and it shouldn't bother anyone. A loooonng time ago when I was much younger it made me a tad uncomfortable to witness, but that's just because it was different and I wasn't used to seeing it. But that's because society basically trains you into being homophobic. On Leno one night when TATU was on the cameras cut away while they kissed during their performance. Yet if a guy and a girl did it then it would be ok and they'd show it. Stuff like that creates homophobic people, because you don't see it much. If you were to see it more often, then after awhile, it wouldn't make you uncomfortable, because it won't be like it's anything you haven't seen before.

badberry
02-19-2004, 01:57 AM
Ok, so I'm homophobic then. Still not seeing the movie :p

Personally, seeing 2 guys kiss and be "intimate" is far more bothersome to me than a movie full of "penis shots" as you said. But I'm gonna be the typical male hypocrite and say that 2 females kissing and being intimate is one of the most sexy things in the world :D Go figure.

By the way, I honestly mean no offense to any gay board members....I meant what I said about having no problem with gay people themselves.

Mike
02-19-2004, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by badberry
Ok, so I'm homophobic then. Still not seeing the movie :p

Personally, seeing 2 guys kiss and be "intimate" is far more bothersome to me than a movie full of "penis shots" as you said. But I'm gonna be the typical male hypocrite and say that 2 females kissing and being intimate is one of the most sexy things in the world :D Go figure.

By the way, I honestly mean no offense to any gay board members....I meant what I said about having no problem with gay people themselves.


Alright, fair enough. :)

AppleHuntr
03-04-2004, 01:18 AM
I saw a poster for this at one of the local art house theaters, the poster kinda sucks (especially the tagline: so and so prays, so and so plays, opposites attract!) so it looked pretty generic but the reviews and description make it seem like the film will be more than just the filler that the poster promises. Maybe I'll check it out.

Besides, its got Amber Benson!!!!!!

and Joseph Gordon-Levitt! Anyone? Anyone?

Kim_EZ
03-04-2004, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by badberry
Ok, so I'm homophobic then.

But I'm gonna be the typical male hypocrite and say that 2 females kissing and being intimate is one of the most sexy things in the world :D Go figure.

*rolls eyes*

fevers
03-04-2004, 05:03 PM
I would really like to see this movie. Mostly for it's controversial subject matter. Hopefully i'll get the chance to check it out sometime.

badberry
03-04-2004, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Kim_EZ
*rolls eyes*

They have a smilie for that you know ;)