Bad Directors, making one good film by chance

[Favourite end]

Have you ever noticed some really bad directors, who later on make one truly good movie, and then this movie makes you changing your mind about them?

[ak]

Harold Ramis - Groundhog Day.

[Josh69Mn@aol.com]

Robert Zumeckis - FORREST GUMP

[bskutle]

Well, the film was made before the ones I didn't like from him, but Paul Thomas Anderson's "Hard Eight" showed promise. But personally, he's not talented enough a director (or writer) to pull off epics like "Boogie Nights" or "Magnolia."

[QUENTIN]

Joel Schumacher -Tigerland

[God likes movies]

I think "Boogie Nights" and "Magnolia" are well-directed and well-written.

For the question I'd say ... I've no idea in mind right now.

[Hannibal21]

George Lucas - American Graffiti

[syxxpac]

Michael Bay - The Rock (9/10)

[Ren Hoek]

Richard Rush - The Stunt Man (1980) ...all his other flicks are craptacular.

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally posted by QUENTIN
Joel Schumacher -Tigerland


That's the first thing that came to mind when I saw this thread's title. Good call.

[Lynn Minmei]

Vincent Gallo-Buffalo 66

[charliebobo]

Adrian Lyne - Jacob's Ladder

[Jasonite]

Joel Schumacher - Falling Down.



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[Damned Martian]

Stanley Kubrick - Dr Strangelove



hehehehe

[James Logan]

Originally posted by QUENTIN
Joel Schumacher -Tigerland

Ditto.

[Cosimo]

Tobe Hopper's Texas Chainsaw Massacre.Maybe not a bad director but i havent heard from the guy since he made the greatest horror film ever made.

Both Falling Down and Tigerland are good movies with memorable peformances and 8mm had a few extremely dark scenes that worked very well so i dont consider Schumacher a bad director but a director who makes poor decisions when it comes to choosing scripts to adapt.The problem is that he doesnt really know his own limitations.Phonebooth imo was absolute garbage.

[Fisting Ackbar]

Originally posted by syxxpac
Michael Bay - The Rock

Also, Jan de Bont with SPEED.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Fisting Ackbar
Also, Jan de Bont with SPEED.

Oh yeah. The man was a good cinematographer, he directed one good flick, but he's the King of Suckiness since. Yuk.

[Ripper1888]

Steven Spielberg-Schindler's List,Saving Private Ryan,Jaws,
Raiders of the Lost Ark aside from those four films I think the rest of his stuff are overrated pieces of junk especially E.T. whitch IMO is one the worst movies evermade so he is a mediocre filmaker at best IMO.

Joel Schumacker-Tigerland
Michael Bay-The Rock
Renny Harlin-The Long Kiss Goodnight
Bob Clark-Black Christmas
Doug Liman-GO
Berry Levinson-Good Mourning Vietnam
John Hughes-Ferris Bueller's Day Off
The Farrelly Brothers-King Pin

[fransisca]

Originally posted by Hannibal21
George Lucas - American Graffiti

I couldn't agree more. :)
Lucas should do special effects, not directing.

[dh1989]

Mark Steven Johnson - Daredevil.

[El Bracamonti]

Originally posted by dh1989
Mark Steven Johnson - Daredevil.

agreed

[Damned Martian]

Originally posted by dh1989
Mark Steven Johnson - Daredevil. IMO, MSJ is so bad that Daredevil is NOT an exception.:cool:

[The TZA]

I would say Spielberg because the only films I could think of that I enjoyed were Jaws and Jurassic Park (but Jaws is what I would consider an achievment, ANYONE could've made JP half-decent). But I just looked him up on IMDB and remembered Hook which I love!

Agree with La Motta on Tobe Hooper, although he did also direct Poltergeist which is just as good as Chainsaw in my opinion. Since then all he's done are TV shows and shit like Spontaneous Combustion and Crocodile!

[Subotai]

I'm thinking Brest's Midnight Run was a damn big break.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by dh1989
Mark Steven Johnson - Daredevil.

I thought Simon Birch was a really good movie too.

I don't agree with Joel Schumacher. Infact, a part from Batman & Robin I don't think he's a bad director at all.

Speed wasn't the only good film from Jan De Bont. I really liked Twister as well.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by Subotai
I'm thinking Brest's Midnight Run was a damn big break.

Ok, I realize I'm the only who liked Gigli and that not many people liked Meet Joe Black either. But what about Beverly Hills Cop?

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by Ripper1888




Berry Levinson-Good Mourning Vietnam



What about Wag the Dog? Sleepers? Bandits? Rain Man? The Natural?

[Shakamaker]

I get to say Kevin Costner - Dances With Wolves - as Open Range, which looks good, hasn't hit my shores as yet.

[Subotai]

I liked BHC when I was young; now, it seems way overrated. Nothing close to Midnight Run.

[Neesh]

Mike Figgis - Leaving Las Vegas

[bowieee]

Kevin Costner ~Open Range The rest was poo.

[HeavyK]

Paul Anderson - he's by far the worst director in the world but Event Horizon was an excellent film. Can't say the same for the shitastic goreless Resident (yet another Matrix wannabe) Evil.

[lalex81]

"Hollywood" John Woo - FACE/OFF

Sam Raimi - A SIMPLE PLAN

Christian Duguay - THE ASSIGNMENT

Kathryn Bigelow - BREAKPOINT

Wachowski brothers - MATRIX (RELOADED sucked)

John Carpenter - THE THING

Ridley Scott - BLADE RUNNER

I don´t really mean they are bad directors, just that for diferent reasons, for me, every other movie they´ve made sucked

I like more than one Barry Levinson and Michael Bay movies

[Damned Martian]

Originally posted by lalex81
Kathryn Bigelow - BREAKPOINT You mean POINT BREAK. And she has also done the excellent Strange Days, which, BTW, is better than PB.

Wachowski brothers - MATRIX (RELOADED sucked) So you haven't seen Bound, isn't it?

John Carpenter - THE THING And Vampires, They Live, In the Mouth of Madness...

Ridley Scott - BLADE RUNNER And ALIEN, Gladiator, Hannibal, Black Rain, Black Hawk Down, Someone to Watch Over me and Matchstick Men.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by lalex81
Sam Raimi - A SIMPLE PLAN

John Carpenter - THE THING

Ridley Scott - BLADE RUNNER



Sam Raimi-Evil Dead, Spider-Man, Darkman, A Simple Plan, Evil Dead II, Army of Darkness

John Carpenter-Halloween, The Thing, The Fog, Escape From New York

Ridley Scott-Alien, Gladiator, Blade Runner, Black Hawk Down, Thelma & Louise, Black Rain, Legend

[Tuukka]

Just a question, have people actually seen the best movies from these directors? Because in many cases it seems that people are totally unaware of the entire filmographies of these directors.

Many of the lists just don't seem to make much sense, especially since sometimes the only "good" movie from a director is his only well known movie.

More on the following post...

[Tuukka]

Ak, didn't you like Caddyshack, Vacation and Analyze this?

Quentin, Buck, James and Ripper1888, didn't you think that Falling Down, Phone Booth and A Time To Kill were any good at all?

Jasonite, didn't you like Tigerland and Phone Booth?

La Motta, what about Poltergeist?

Ripper 1888, what about A Christmas Story, Murder By Decree, Swingers, Rain Man, Natural, Avalon, Diner and so on? Have you seen them all?

Lalex 81, what about Near Dark, Strange Days, Bound, Halloween, Assault on precint 13, Escape from N.Y, Starman, Alien, Gladiator, Duellist, and so on...


I wonder if all the people have *really* seen all these movies... Some have, with no doubt. But I suspect many haven't.

[Neesh]

Admittedly I havent seen every Mike Figgis movie ever made. I'm kind of afraid too. But of the ones I've seen, they all were pretty bad, save for Leaving Las Vegas which was excellent. The stark contrast between them is why I chimed in in this thread. If I ever see any other movies of his that I like, I'll recant my statement.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by Neesh
Admittedly I havent seen every Mike Figgis movie ever made. I'm kind of afraid too. But of the ones I've seen, they all were pretty bad, save for Leaving Las Vegas which was excellent. The stark contrast between them is why I chimed in in this thread. If I ever see any other movies of his that I like, I'll recant my statement.

I don't think it's needed to see all movies from a director, but it's good to see movies that are generally considered as his best ones. I'm not much of a Figgis fan myself.

[The Lolo]

Originally posted by QUENTIN
Joel Schumacher -Tigerland

What about Phone Booth?

[SAI]

Originally posted by Josh69Mn@aol.com
Robert Zumeckis - FORREST GUMP

I hate Gump but Zemeckis is pretty damn good as a director. I submit: Back To The Future 1-3, Contact, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

[lalex81]

- For me Kathryn Bigelow is one of the most talented female director there is out ther but I think she hasn´t been able to put all her talent on a movie since POINT BREAK, STRANGE DAYS had a really cool premise and some original (at that moment) camera tricks but it something didn´t work for me... I found the carachters totally unappealing, I didn´t much for anybody, just a little bit for Ralph Fiennes, but maybe it was his natural charm and not his carachter, I think somethin similar happens in THE WIDOWMAKER... I admit I haven´t seen NEAR DARK.

- I think BOUND is a great debut film because it showed the "so original" Wachowski style, but as a whole I don´t think it´s a great movie, the script was week and really redundant. And with RELOADED, they falled again, it´s just about the style, nothing more.

- I try to separate the movies I liked when I was growing up and remind me my childhood from the great movies and well directed ones. Carpenter directed a lot of entertaining movies, with cool premises but tecnically I don´t see much talent. Halloween scared all of us when we saw it years ago, but now you actually laugh watching it. But with THE THING that doesn´t happen, at least for me... it´s a classic that remains a classic over the years.

- Ridley Scott is the most overrated director there is. The talentous of the family for me is Tony. GLADIATOR is a plain boring movie with a few entertaining action sequences in between, besides after BRAVE HEART everybody kind of knew how it was going to end. ALIEN was good because it was the first of a kind, but I look at it know and I honestly don´t know what was it that so many people liked. Maybe THELMA AND LOUSIE is a great movie but it is so "women oriented" that I´ve never met a man who would admit he liked it. BLACK HAWK DOWN was a great U.S Army commercial, nothing more. Haven´t seen MATCHSTICK MEN. HANNIBAL was awful and BLACK RAIN average.

- EVIL DEAD TRILOGY good movies??? There fun but nothing more, just like DARKMAN and SPIDERMAN

[SAI]

Originally posted by lalex81
Maybe THELMA AND LOUSIE is a great movie but it is so "women oriented" that I´ve never met a man who would admit he liked it.

Hello everybody, my name is Sam, I'm a guy who LOVED Thelma and Louise