View Full Version : The end of college football as we know it?...........
bmain77
02-05-2004, 01:35 PM
Well I want to be the first to congratulate Maurice Clarette for single handedly ruining college football, the greatest sport in all the world.
If College Football end up going the way College Basketball I'll chip in some of my money to hire someone to take out Clarette. He may well be the first athlete that I will be actively cheering for the other team to blow his knees out.
To me there is no good argument for allowing these younger players into football. It's going to ruin both pro and college football. Footbal could possilbly be flooded with athletes who simply arent ready that would dominate and do great things on the college level.
The crappy thing is that the NFL has no one to blame but themselves. I don't have a background in law, but apparently with how the rule is worded an all that there is no chance for them to win this case. We'll see how the appeals go, but from all I;ve heard from so called experts on the radio they have almost no hope for success.
AnnoyingQuestionAsker
02-05-2004, 02:29 PM
My biggest concern is not the health of college football, but the fact that we are allowing this kid who lost his eligibility in college because of cheating, bad grades, gambling, etc. to make millions of dollars at the next level. This is simply furthering the problem in which society allows a person to get away with skirting responsibility simply because they have a jump shot or can run a 4.3 40.
I am currently writing a Law Review Article on how the treatment of athletes from high school through the professional ranks creates a separate culture specifically for them, which is allowed to be used as a mitigating circumstance in the criminal law. This case is simply adding fuel to the fire.
There is another law review article that discusses whether the NBA can establish a minimum-age requirement. There is a great discussion about antitrust laws and the collective bargaining agreement.
Haddonfield
02-05-2004, 05:45 PM
In the long run I really dont think think this will be a big deal. after a few 19 year olds try and line up in the pros and get run over it will be a dead issue, plus coaches know what they are doing, they wont draft underdeveloped kids who are still 3 or 4 years away.
I think all college sports are boring and full of hypocracy but this wont kill the sport like it has the NBA.
bmain77
02-05-2004, 07:52 PM
I don't think the NBA has been hurt that much. It's the college level that has been devastated with players leaving early and not coming at all.
The thing that is pissing me off is that ESPN is calling him a pioneer and he and his lawyers were trying to compare him to Curt Flood. Even Jackie Robinson's name has been brought up. Let's be real about this. This jack ass fucked up at Ohio State. He realizes he has no options left except turning pro so he challenges the rule. He wasn't making some ideological stand as some are trying to portray him. He was trying to cover his own ass.
Even his high school coach is against this. He said even if Maurice is a success what about the athletes that aren't. They don't have a safety net. Well they could if they were grateful enough to take the free education they could have recieved at a university.
On a less serious note it makes perfect sense that I'm so pissed off about this. First off you have Clarett's Buckeye background. If that wasn't bad enough, one of the lawyers on his defense team is a professor at Michigan State. You had to know that it would be a Spartan or a Buckeye that would help ruin college football. I suspect that also has be some Fighting Irish involved in here somewhere too.
PapaJupe2k
02-06-2004, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by bmain77
I don't think the NBA has been hurt that much. It's the college level that has been devastated with players leaving early and not coming at all. Absolutely right! It is almost a detriment anymore to recruit these blue chippers because you know in your heart they aren't going stay four years or in some cases two or three. It seems more and more people are trying it and it's not like football where there are what 15 rounds or something like that, in the NBA I believe there are only two. You are seeing more and more people leave early and then not even get drafted or a free agent tryout, then they are really screwed because they cant come back. The spots become even more sparse because of the big influx of European players of late, and this even relates in a way. The Europeans are more schooled in the fundamentals and more disciplined, something these 19-20 don't have yet.
As for Maurice, I was hoping to see him end up at Youngstown State, now that would have been sweet! He just seems very arrogant and irresponsible, the NFL was a last ditch try, we'll see this works out for him. He's not doing this on the basis of some upstanding priciples that is for sure.:rolleyes:
Benny
02-06-2004, 09:22 AM
College Football has already met its end with the recent expanison of the ACC. :mad:
But anyway, if I were an NFL team, I would not draft the kid. He seems very undisciplined and would bring a negative attitude to the team. Plus he has not played football in a year, so he will be rusty. After all, he might only be a one-year wonder. I bet some genius like Matt Millen will take him though. :p
Grebdron
02-06-2004, 11:54 AM
He is going to DIE.
That will deter most underclassmen from attempting the jump.
Moviefan1234
02-06-2004, 12:40 PM
The way I look at it is this, let the boy do what he wants. If he wants to be a pro at 19, let him. It won't take these young'uns long to realize they'll take a few years to get good in the NFL. Their logic will kick in and soon we'll see them staying unless they are a really gifted athlete. As for Mr. Clarette, I suspect he will make a good RB in the NFL, but we won't see him become good for a few years. I hope he does well, he is a good player, but he needs more schooling in the college game.
bmain77
02-06-2004, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Benny
I bet some genius like Matt Millen will take him though. :p
Thats not even even remotely funny dude.;)
Haddonfield
02-06-2004, 03:43 PM
The only comparison I like to make on the subject is one we have all heard before but is very true.
A company can set any standard withing reason it wants to hire someone. Some jobs you need a degree, or certain levels of experience. I just cant go and be a doctor, there are requirements. Then you have other jobs where all you need is a GED and all of your teeth, thanks for me, I usualy get one of those jobs.
So whats the difference than the NFL saying they want there players to have three years of college? Somehow this is deemed unfair.
:confused:
tbone
02-06-2004, 05:01 PM
I don't think Clarett will ruin college football. Clarett is going to be a complete bust in the NFL. We won't see the jumps like we see from basketball. Making the transition from high school football to the pros should be much tougher than that of the NBA. You don't even see many successful Freshmen in College. Remember the NFL can still win this case on appeal.
Ripper1888
02-08-2004, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by Haddonfield
The only comparison I like to make on the subject is one we have all heard before but is very true.
A company can set any standard withing reason it wants to hire someone. Some jobs you need a degree, or certain levels of experience. I just cant go and be a doctor, there are requirements. Then you have other jobs where all you need is a GED and all of your teeth, thanks for me, I usualy get one of those jobs.
So whats the difference than the NFL saying they want there players to have three years of college? Somehow this is deemed unfair.
:confused:
I've been curious about that aswell,whats the difference between the NFL saying you need to be 3years removed from High School and some company saying you need at least a High School diploma or GED and experience.
As for Mr.Clarett I think with his actions he's made it pretty clear that all he cares about is himself and money he obviously could care less about his education,teammates at Ohio State or the game itself.I think its a joke the way is lawyers are acting as if he is a pioneer thats going to make the game better.I personally hope that he is a flop and I think he will be,he hasen't played in over a year and when he was playing he was allways getting injured and I for one would love to see him get a Bo Jackson career ending injury.
freekyd
02-20-2004, 09:27 PM
how about Mike Williams from USC leaving for the pros too. it might hurt their title hopes for next year.
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