Metallica set to launch download site

[Haddonfield]

http://www.blistering.com/fastpage/fpengine.php/link/1/templateid/6399/tempidx/1/menuid/1


I have to say, the band lost me with St Anger (well, maybe even before that) but I like the idea of any band doing this. However I do think the cost is way too much. esp for a band who already has a billion dollars in the bank.

[bowieee]

UGH.

Metallica needs to learn that they have no potential for a comeback and they need to embrace their fate of dissappearing from the publics eye.

[Sigur509]

Originally posted by bowieee
UGH.

Metallica needs to learn that they have no potential for a comeback and they need to embrace their fate of dissappearing from the publics eye.

Ditto.

[Haddonfield]

here is what I dont get. The band would let fans set up in a "tapers section" where they could record the show for free, minus the cost for tape, ect...And now they say its the next step by charging fans 10-13 bucks for these shows?

Am I missing something?

Im sure it isnt free for the band to set up a web site and have these shows for download but we are talking about a group who basicly shut down Napster then allowed free tapings to this?

Whatever happened to the "jam band" idea? Bands like The Black Crowes who said, "come on down, tape the show, have some fun, trade the shows, enjoy, its all about the music"

gee, 10 bucks to hear Enter Sandman and Nothing Else Matters live.

[Fettdog]

Originally posted by Haddonfield


Whatever happened to the "jam band" idea? Bands like The Black Crowes who said, "come on down, tape the show, have some fun, trade the shows, enjoy, its all about the music"

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Counting Crows have been doing this sort of thing for years, and to great effect! Us fans are able to get hold of virtually any live show (something like 97% of all their shows ever are available!) or demo, with our side of the 'contract' being that we buy any official releases.

Consequently I have great recordings of every show I've been to (half a dozen) and another 20 or 30 of their best shows (they play different sets every night so no two shows are ever the same).

More bands should learn from this attitude! :)

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
I have to say, the band lost me with St Anger (well, maybe even before that)

RE:

For me they regained their status with St. Anger. They suddenly seemed dangerous and exciting again, something they haven't been for the last 15 years or so... And the title song was one of the best songs of 2003. In fact their best song since Unforgiven, which came out full 12 years ago.

I find it funny that many people, especially in USA, have said that Metallica sold out with St. Anger. But in fact it's their most raw, brutal, uncompromised, uncommercial record in almost 20 years. The root of the problem is that Metallica become so big in the 90's with their more mainstream friendly music that by returning to their roots (with a different twist) they made their mainstream fanbase angry. For me St. Anger is a proof that the band is still fresh, creative and willing to take changes after playing it safe for over 10 years.

St. Anger relatively flopped in USA, but here in Europe I've heard it's their biggest selling album since "Black Album". I'm suprised that it has done so well since it's so strictly uncommercial, but I'm happy for them.

[Haddonfield]

I cant agree about St Anger. While I like the idea of them playing with more aggression, I think all of the trademark Metallica ideas were missing. And it all really has to do with the production of the album. Again, I get that they wanted to break some rules or whatever but to me it cames out as a rush job album. Ill play the album and all I hear is drums and out of tune vocals.

Maybe live, these songs are a different story because pretty much every song is live, but I think they did a tank job in the studio. Had the produced the album like there others I think we are then talking about a possible great record or at least have Kirk throw down some solos...Come on, its Metallica...the guy isnt a legend for playing riffs, Kirk is a solo master and ESP with the more agressive songs, he would have added more depth.

But they didnt want it, and no one bought it.

[darchangel]

Originally posted by Tuukka
I'm suprised that it has done so well since it's so strictly uncommercial, but I'm happy for them.

Metallica....uncommercial....heehee!! that's a good one, Tuukka!!!


i will use a quote from my fiance on St. Anger:

"the sound of Lars' drums is so shitty, it sounds like he's beating on empty coffee cans"

yeah...that sums it up for me too.


also, add in the fact that they're a bunch of stupid, money-hungry bastards...damn you, lars!!! damn you and your anti-napster ways!!!

i hope this idea of paying for an MP3 bootleg crashes and burns faster than the Hindenburg....and it's "for the fans," as Lars said...

WHAT FANS!?! YOU LOST ALL OF YOUR FANS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN COCK BLOCKING FREE MUSIC AND COFFEE CANS, LARS!!! HELLOOOOOOO????

....uncommercial....<giggles>


Death to Beth

~darchangel~

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by darchangel
Metallica....uncommercial....heehee!! that's a good one, Tuukka!!!


i will use a quote from my fiance on St. Anger:

"the sound of Lars' drums is so shitty, it sounds like he's beating on empty coffee cans"

yeah...that sums it up for me too.

RE:

Well, that's a good example of their uncommercialism.

In fact I have NEVER heard any major band making such an lo-fi record so late in their career. First time in history, and obviously a huge commercial risk since MOST people dislike St. Anger exactly because of the sound. I think the sound is brilliant, because it's raw and brutal. The record sounds like a demo from a garage trash/death/punk metal band. If that isn't uncommercial, then I don't know what is. Along with this they changed their songs structurally: No more guitar solos. They intentionally removed things from their music which have made them popular.

Metallica is one band which is willing to evolve. They like to say "fuck off" to the majority of their fans and keep on doing the stuff they like to do. They have always been like this, and for me this is a big part of their appeal.