View Full Version : Why did Michael Myers start killing people. Who thinks they should make a prequill?
michael myers 6
04-03-2004, 09:25 AM
I dont get why Michael started killing! I know because of the family thing and him killing his sister and all. But why did he start killing. Should they make a Halloween prequill and it is about How michael got his powers. I mean Michael Myers is My favorate killer... but why did he start killing? Please Reply
DEATH, You dont know what Death is!
jagged halo
04-03-2004, 10:41 AM
Halloweem 1978 is a prequel if you think about it.
I suspect Akkad has already penned the said flick,
unfortunately :(
!MorganOnyx!
04-03-2004, 10:43 AM
Yes, yes it is.
If they made a HALLOWEEN movie set BEFORE MYERS started killing, it would follow the events of his life from his birth to his 6th birthday.
jagged halo
04-03-2004, 10:47 AM
What a film it would be, seeing a young Myers soil his nappy in front of a disapproving Mother, or such like....:D
michael myers 6
04-03-2004, 11:17 AM
yeah but what should it be rated? Because there will probibly be no killings until the end when he kills his sister in the end of the prequil
Nightmare_Dreaming
04-03-2004, 02:31 PM
I believe Michael Myers killed his sister because he is mentally ill, and somewhere down the line he got The Curse of the Thorn, and it's powers.
KillerKlown
04-03-2004, 03:01 PM
No they shouldn't make a prequel, as it would be as shit as all the other later entries of the series.
Halloweenman
04-03-2004, 04:07 PM
Hmmmmmmmm.
I'm a huge myers fan as some of you already know.
I like anything with Michael Myers in it. but h8
As for a prequel no no no no way. look what happend to star wars!
I'm noting saying a prequel is not a good idea. but I want h9 to move forward. I do want to know some of Michael childhood but maybe in H9 they could do some flash back type stuff. Maybe go the way the comic One Good Scare did. Show little MIhcael in Smith's grove with doctor Loomis slapping him like a little bitch.
i mostly have mixed feeling about a prequel. I want to know more on michaels childhood. but first I want them to link h5, h6, h20, and h8.
michael myers 6
if you want to know alittle more about young michael check out the comic called One Good Scare. also there is a comic called The Devil Eyes that has little info on Michael's sister but good luck trying to kind it.
Peace
Bri
darchangel
04-03-2004, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by michael myers 6
I dont get why Michael started killing! I know because of the family thing and him killing his sister and all. But why did he start killing. Should they make a Halloween prequill and it is about How michael got his powers. I mean Michael Myers is My favorate killer... but why did he start killing? Please Reply
they address that in Halloween part 6....
i don't think they need a prequel, since they explained it already (however shitty the explanation was)
Death to Beth
~darchangel~
Duke Nukem
04-03-2004, 07:31 PM
Michael Myers is the boogeyman. He lost his soul at age 6 and from there was driven by evil. He was born with the thorn symbol, something from Druid mythology that symbolizes impulses to kill off one's tribe, or family. Michael is the one person born with the thorn symbol, he's the boogeyman. That's why he kills.
There is no need for a prequel. It would be a boring movie showing little 6 year old Michael Myers before the evil bug within him clicked on halloween night in 1963.
They need to move to "Halloween 9" and correct the storyholes created by H20 and H8's ignorance of H4-6 (damn you, Jamie Lee!). Tommy Doyle and John Tate should come back to Haddonfield and try to stop Michael once and for all.
Cronos
04-03-2004, 07:47 PM
a prequel would be a bad idea, hes fucked up in the head, we dont need to watch a film about him as a kid, what would be the point
Juice
04-04-2004, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by michael myers 6
I dont get why Michael started killing! I know because of the family thing and him killing his sister and all. But why did he start killing. Should they make a Halloween prequill and it is about How michael got his powers. I mean Michael Myers is My favorate killer... but why did he start killing? Please Reply
Sigh... He started killing because he is evil. That's it.
He has no dumb revenge motive or whatever, he's just EVIL, that's what makes him my favorite serial killer. It's all I know and it's all I wanna know.
NuclearMisfit
04-04-2004, 08:27 AM
They give enough information in Halloween as to why he kills, my theory is hes just severely bipolar and cant be controlled by medications so the rage just lives on. Hes my favorite killer also but Id like to see them finally end the series since Michaels only got 2 surviving relatives left Steven and John.
jagged halo
04-04-2004, 04:44 PM
For a full accurate character analysis of Michael Myers watch the Divi-Max version with Carpenters commentary on. All is revealed.......
ERIN_LoJ
04-06-2004, 06:16 PM
I watched John Carpenter A man and his movies documentary Sunday. Was dissapointing but did say Myers was mentally ill enough to where he no longer becomes human. I like the analogy there. Sociopaths or psychos that are so cut off from society and other people's feelings they become "other", and not like us at all so much they become inhuman completely.
EVILxxx
04-07-2004, 01:16 AM
No. Halloween has all but lost what little ambiguity it had. A prequel wouldn't add anything. I think it's best if Michael was just a normal everyday child until that fateful Halloween.
TheDeadWalk
04-07-2004, 02:49 AM
How old was Michael in the flashbacks of him in Halloween 2?
He was much older than 6, when Laurie kept trying to talk to him, and he just glared at her.
I would guesstimate around 13.
Last Dragon
04-07-2004, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Halloweenman
Hmmmmmmmm.
I'm a huge myers fan as some of you already know.
I like anything with Michael Myers in it. but h8
As for a prequel no no no no way. look what happend to star wars!
Hey...I like those Star Wars prequels!!! :)
But, on subject, I think a prequel isn't needed. You can accept the Thorn story, and you got your backstory, or you can bypass that, and accept the story of him just being crazy to the point that humanity is null and void to him. Either one can explain the story.
RogueSpear
04-07-2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Juice
Sigh... He started killing because he is evil. That's it.
He has no dumb revenge motive or whatever, he's just EVIL, that's what makes him my favorite serial killer. It's all I know and it's all I wanna know.
That's basically what I was going to say. Throwing out anything that was said after Halloween 4, there was no reason for Michael's killing sprees. He just killed. He's just freaking psycho. No explanation is needed. Any attempts to explain why Michael kills would ruin the series. Case in point: Parts 5, 6, 7, 8.
michael myers 6
04-08-2004, 10:07 AM
But what if it was directed by John Carpenter... would you watch it?
KillerKlown
04-09-2004, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by michael myers 6
But what if it was directed by John Carpenter... would you watch it?
Nope. Besides I credit John Carpenter with having better taste.
pyscho dude
04-09-2004, 01:41 PM
We don't need a prequel to Halloween. A 9th would be good if they didn't screw this one up like H20 and 8.
Duke Nukem
04-09-2004, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
How old was Michael in the flashbacks of him in Halloween 2?
He was much older than 6, when Laurie kept trying to talk to him, and he just glared at her.
I would guesstimate around 13.
If Michael looked like he was 13, he was supposed to. The flashback was supposed to show him as he was in sanitarium seven years later after being taken there. By 1978 when he first escaped to Haddonfield, he was 21 and Laurie was 17. Looking at the two kids in the flashback, I'd say that the age portrayal made sense.
Interestingly, they used a scene like that as part of the extra 12 minutes for the original film (they add more scenes for the 2 hour time frame on TV for its premier). It showed that same 13 year old Michael emotionless and looking out the window. Dr. Loomis comes in the room to confront Michael.
Loomis just tried to get Michael sent to a maximum security prison, but the sanitarium staff didn't feel Michael was dangerous enough. But, Loomis knows better. By that point, he had watched over Michael for seven years trying to get him to talk. Of course, he realized he was dangerous and would try to keep him locked up for the next 8 years.
What he says to Michael, who ignores his presence - "You fooled them, haven't you Mike?... But not me."
Great scene.
TheDeadWalk
06-30-2004, 02:53 AM
This idea for a prequel is worse than the 'jump to conclusions' mat.
You would likely get the events in the beginning of the first Halloween, and then Michael sitting in the sanitarium doing nothing for years. Then you'd get his escape, which also happened in the beginning of the first Halloween.
The movie would be nearly pointless, unless they made it like that one Psycho sequel where Norman Bates recalls his flashbacks with his mother while he plans on killing again.
And that movie blew too.
mshulman5
07-02-2004, 08:39 PM
Part of why he kills is because he is just pure evil. The other part is addressed in Halloween 6. I suggest the Producer's Cut if you want in depth reasoning. I kind of dug the whole idea. At least there was something to it as opposed to every other slasher who just wants revenge on the children of the families that burnt him to death, or the counselors from the camp he drowned at because he wasn't being watched. Not knocking Freddy or Jason because that's all you need for a slasher movie is some motivation for revenge. I just found it refreshing and original, and very well thought out as well.
Duke Nukem
07-02-2004, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by mshulman5
Part of why he kills is because he is just pure evil. The other part is addressed in Halloween 6. I suggest the Producer's Cut if you want in depth reasoning. I kind of dug the whole idea. At least there was something to it as opposed to every other slasher who just wants revenge on the children of the families that burnt him to death, or the counselors from the camp he drowned at because he wasn't being watched. Not knocking Freddy or Jason because that's all you need for a slasher movie is some motivation for revenge. I just found it refreshing and original, and very well thought out as well.
Couldn't say it better myself.
Thurisaz
07-03-2004, 03:07 PM
they was gonna start 8 like that when it was originally gonna be called Halloween: Homecoming... but they squashed it!
fear's soul
10-19-2004, 05:02 PM
may be do something like hellraiser 5. it goes down the myers family tree and shows why mike was unlikely enough to get the curse. other wise no prequel
teenkiller
04-06-2007, 12:01 AM
A prequel would be pointless as I just don't think there is all that much to tell about Michael before that fateful night when he murdered his sister.
I haven't seen Curse in quite a while. When exactly did the Thorn cult supposedly get involved with Michael anyways? When he was a child? When he was in the Smiths Grove Sanitarium? Duke?...
Michael kills because he is the physical embodiment of evil. Fuck that Thorn storyline. To me he is just... The Boogeyman. You try to go back into the story lines and explain stuff? Add background? You just end up fucking up a series.
Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
Duke Nukem
04-07-2007, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by teenkiller
A prequel would be pointless as I just don't think there is all that much to tell about Michael before that fateful night when he murdered his sister.
I haven't seen Curse in quite a while. When exactly did the Thorn cult supposedly get involved with Michael anyways? When he was a child? When he was in the Smiths Grove Sanitarium? Duke?...
Michael kills because he is the physical embodiment of evil. Fuck that Thorn storyline. To me he is just... The Boogeyman. You try to go back into the story lines and explain stuff? Add background? You just end up fucking up a series.
Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
You could say they already are doing a prequel. Rob Zomobie's remake will apparently focus more on Michael before he became evil/started killing. However, it is also a remake, and Zombie is apprently steering clear of Michael literally being supernatural (which is one of the big reasons why I'm upset over the project).
Even though it's a remake, they aren't going to do everything over again, so yeah. But still, it fucking sucks what they're doing.
But if we're talking prequel to the original storyline, yeah it is pointless. Whereas everything in the first five movies was more mysterious, the sixth movie explained mostly everything, which to me was a good thing. I liked what H6 P-Cut did. It played smart and mysterious, but didn't spell everything out for you. The next movie to come probably would have told a little more, etc., but obviously though, that plan didn't happen.
As for when the Druid cult first came to the scene, it would been when Michael was first taken to Smith's Grove. He was born with the Thorn curse, it changed him at age 6, and the mysterious cult within the inner-workings of Smith's Grove discovered him.
If anything, they - or more importantly, Dr. Wynn - knew "the one with the Thorn" was coming and would commit murder that Halloween on 1963. And when he would first be looked over after Judith's murder, Thorn members within the law made sure he was sent to Smith's Grove - where the Druid clut primarily gathered. Part of this comes from what was said in the movie and part of it comes from assumption on many of the mysterious events of the movie.
Basically, Michael started killing due to the Thorn curse. On one fateful Halloween night in 1963, it took over his soul and mind and would forever launch a compaign of murder and bloodshed of the Myers/Strode family line. By H6, Danny Strode, Kara Strode and baby Stephen were all that were left. And if the intended storyline prevailed, they (along with Tommy Doyle) would most likely have been in the next movie. But, we'll never really know.
teenkiller
04-07-2007, 06:04 PM
Thanks for that explanation Duke. Much appreciated. Yeah I realize that Zombie's rendition is a quasi remake/prequel. I heard that Michael as we know him won't even appear until about the final third of the movie. Weird. I think he might be focusing too much on the events prior to Michael's boogeyman status but I will see it before I judge. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
PSU80
04-22-2007, 01:18 PM
Zombie is going to give us the only prequel type stuff we should need. An entire Halloween devoted as a prequel would be pretty shitty.
Kevin Lockard
05-17-2007, 08:25 AM
I'm gonna ignore this entry that Rob Zombie is doing. The Halloween series has pretty much all but lost it's credibility. Zombie is only driving some of the final nails into the coffin. Which is sad, because he probably thinks he's doing the franchise a service or something, when in fact, he's, you know, not.
To just answer the question in own words, yeah, Michael Myers just kills simply because he is Evil. He just is. No explanation involved or needed. And that includes the stupid Thorn storyline in H6, as we can THANKFULLY ignore that completely, along with the storylines of Halloween 4&5 as well, thanks to H20 (even though Haloween: Resurrection is a whole new quanitity of problems.)
But yeah, no "complex" or "intellectual" reasons needed for Myer's motivations other than he is just plain Evil.
teenkiller
05-17-2007, 08:52 AM
Well whether we like it or not Zombie is looking to explore Michael's childhood. Tyler Mane said in a recent interview that Zombie has a really cool vision and that he thinks expanding on the character instead of just making him one dimensional like all the other movies is pretty cool. In regards to sequels he says hopefully if people like what he has to offer as Myers we will see more of him. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
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