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Megalo1026
04-21-2004, 02:21 PM
Recently there has been much public indignation, and rightly so, at the unnecessary glut of genre-film remakes flooding the cinemas. The public suspects—with ample justification—that Hollywood is too lazy to come up with new ideas. Moreover, the public is justly insulted that Hollywood thinks it can fool us into thinking these remakes new, or newly interesting, because of their larger budgets and splashier effects . . . or, just as bad, that they were too young to know the originals, and, this being the case, are automatically uninterested in them. This last assumption by Hollywood is, sadly, often accurate. Lately, when mentioning the original “Dawn of the Dead” to acquaintances, I’ve been shocked to realize that many of them had no idea that the current “Dawn” was a remake at all.

One realizes that cinema is, after all these years of lucid critical discourse on the subject, still struggling—or, rather, still OUGHT TO BE struggling—for recognition as a legitimate art form. Were this not so, distributors wouldn’t still be treating their product as mere commodity, scrambling to retain the public’s interest with superficial novelty. Were it not so, George Romero would be as recognizable a name as Mary Shelley; and, even if they hadn’t seen the original themselves, people outside our own genre fan-boy circle would KNOW the new “Dawn” was a remake just as they know the “Frankenstein” mythos predates the 1931 film.

Remakes are not a recent phenomenon. They date back almost as far as art itself. But the spirit of the remake, it seems to me, is far more cynical than it once was. When a painter would take his themes from the Bible, he wanted to reinforce the spiritual convictions of the masses. When a composer would write an opera inspired by Shakespeare or “Faust”, it was an expression of the thoughts and feelings that this literature inspired in him; or perhaps, as in the case of Goethe’s borrowing the “Dr. Faustus” legend itself, he was merely using this story as a vehicle for ideas that were entirely personal. The great “remakes” that have come down to us, that stand as great art in their own right, are neither slavish imitations of the originals, nor gaudy spectacles that disregard or destroy the whole point of their sources. The many variations on a story, a theme, a myth, a musical composition, etc., etc., should be a testament to its richness, its potential for multiple interpretations, its importance to history and continuing relevance to our culture and its individuals. In this way, imitation and variation are integral to the development of art. Sadly, it can be used as an easy way out, a quick fix. The danger of this is especially strong in the film industry, whose products are always and unavoidably, to a greater or lesser extent, a committee effort. This committee milieu engenders a mentality in which the questions of expendable resources and maximizing profit are ever-present. And the myopic conception of film as something to be passively consumed by the public ensures that they’ll always come back for more of the same uninspired crap that results from this mentality, as long as it is perpetually updated and spectacularized in the most superficial ways.

How many of you are aware of the new “War of the Worlds” that Spielberg and Tom Cruise will be shooting next year? How do you sci-fi fans feel about this? I personally am horrified, not just as a sci-fi fan but as a fan of great movies. I heard about this remake just days after watching the 1950s version for the first time in many years, and realizing what a great film it is. An article I just read (www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1171975,00.html) states, “There have been several film and television versions of the novel, but none of them as high profile as the Spielberg-Cruise collaboration promises to be. In 1953, a film version was made starring Gene Barry and Les Tremayne which used Wells's tale of the invasion of earth by Martian war machines to exploit contemporary anxieties about the cold war and the Soviet threat.”

This is bullshit. Granted, the 1950s cycle of American sci-fi movies is indeed notorious, and rightly so, for being just as much a document of Cold War/Communist paranoia as a celebration of technological progress and the indomitable human (particularly American) spirit. But one of the many reasons “War of the Worlds” struck me as remarkable is precisely the way it sidesteps this trap. Sure, it takes place in San Francisco, but we know, and are shown via montage, that the invasion is a worldwide problem. The filmmakers make a point of making this a human drama, and not a specifically American one. It is the whole world vs. these alien invaders; to equate these invaders with any particular human demographic would be absurd. The film is not satisfied to paint any specific cultural attitude or lifestyle as “right” at the expense of others; it is concerned with examining the various reactions of institutions that are universal to all cultures in the face of this inexplicable and seemingly unstoppable catastrophe: religion, the military, science, the media. There is a highly ingenuous use of ambivalence throughout the film. For example, when the three men at the beginning debate whether to approach the alien craft, it is the Mexican immigrant who warns that they can’t trust something so alien-looking; the priest, angered by the military’s “ask no questions” policy, attempts to approach the ships and communicate with them, only to be evaporated by their death ray—and yet he is obviously not meant to be dismissed as a fool by the audience.

Okay, so the thematic complexities of the film will probably not be equaled by the Spielberg version. Spielberg will probably beat us over the head with the “messages”, and hence they will be, ironically, LESS convincing: a pattern I’ve seen in most of his recent work.

But let’s look at the most immediately striking feature of the original: the special effects themselves. If there’s one thing Spielberg’s posse will get right, it’s special effects. But what’s the point? The effects in the original are brilliant. I was shocked that it came out just two years after “Destination Moon”, which received Oscars for its SFX but looks rather laughable today. “War of the Worlds” holds up amazingly well in this department, and even if it didn’t also feature fine writing, direction, cinematography, editing, and acting, it would deserve to be a classic for the SFX alone. The SFX are still thrilling to watch, and I was pleased to find that the scenes which had terrified me as a child, still totally creeped me out as an adult.

“But you can see the strings!” After half an hour of being amazed by the movie’s visuals, I was momentarily troubled to see that the sets of strings by which the alien ships were suspended were, in many shots, plainly visible. But I soon reconciled myself to them, and have even come to accept them as an emblem connecting these sublime vessels to the dei ex machinae of ancient Greek theatre: a small reminder of the boundary between real life and art, and hence a token of the filmmakers’ ingenuity and dedication to the craft; because we are prevented from being fooled entirely, we have no choice but to remain conscious that this is art, and to appreciate it as such.

This relationship between art and its audience, and between art and “real life”, is problematized when, as in the CGI-drenched monstrosities of today, the tracks of art’s evolution are conscientiously erased. In a sense, bringing more and more fantastic creations to a greater and greater level of visual “realness” begins to make them less impressive, convincing, or engaging. There’s nothing to grab onto: The human eye can almost always tell a cartoon when it sees one, no matter how advanced; when a film depends mostly on CGI, while trying to pass itself off as live-action, the whole thing becomes a slippery, intangible image—a joke—a grotesque of the cinematically “real”.

So I ask once again, What’s the point?, even while knowing that I’ll end up seeing it anyway. Sadly, I think Hollywood is thriving just as much these days off the morbid curiosity of the indignant fan-boys as it is off the credulous mainstream.

Tuukka
04-21-2004, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Megalo1026
How many of you are aware of the new “War of the Worlds” that Spielberg and Tom Cruise will be shooting next year? How do you sci-fi fans feel about this? I personally am horrified, not just as a sci-fi fan but as a fan of great movies. I heard about this remake just days after watching the 1950s version for the first time in many years, and realizing what a great film it is.

RE:

War Of The Worlds is not a remake. It's based on classic the book by H.G.Wells, which was published in 1898 if I remember correctly. The 50's movie adaptation changed the original text quite a lot. Also, check this:

http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73242

Mr. Fred Krueger
04-21-2004, 03:58 PM
I'm all for the remake, actually. I remember watching the War of the Worlds 50s flick and liking it. But then I read the book. The book was so frickin awesome and made the flick look like crap. I wouldn't mind seeing Spielberg tackle the project and do things right.

I just hope they keep the walking, monster sized machines the aliens use to destroy shit and that they keep it in late 19th century England.

Oh, and BTW, the black strings that hold the UFOs in WotW '50 are kind of distracting now. ;)

Megalo1026
04-21-2004, 03:59 PM
I'm using the term loosely. Technically, it will be an adaptation from a different medium. But--perhaps this is cynicism on MY part--I suspect that Spielberg's "WotW" will be just as much a remake of the classic film as an adaptation of the novel. The classic film, although it has a lot more going for it, is best remembered for its SFX and its sensationalism. Spielberg's film, too, will in all likelihood be marketed primarily as an SFX showcase. Whether you call it a remake or an adaptation, I call it unnecessary; the '50s film, while taking certain liberties, was a fine adaptation.

Tuukka
04-21-2004, 04:27 PM
I can see your point, but I disagree. Most people who like the 50's version still don't see it as a definitive cinematic version of the story. It's not like Godfather, another book adaptation. Godfather is easily the definitive movie version of the book, and it would be foolish for anyone to adapt the book again. They could only lose.

I've read a lot about the 50's version of WOTW's, but I haven't seen it. But I know that while it's generally considered as a good film, not too many consider it great. So there is room to improve.

Admittedly Spielberg might fail to improve on it. But without a doubt Spielberg's version will be very different. What ever you might of think of him as a director, he does make his movies with his own particular touch. He is not just a generic craftsman replicating other's work.

So I think a new adaptation of the book is justified, since we can expect it to differ greatly from the earlier version.

Remember that often a later adaptation of the book turns out to be the better one, and it becomes the definitive cinematic translation of the story. For example for most people The Thing and Lord Of The Rings fall into this category.

Rick-James
04-21-2004, 05:29 PM
I'll see the ramake ...

Spielberg + Aliens Kicking Ass + Tom Cruise Kicking Alien Ass = Good times.

Megalo1026
04-21-2004, 06:14 PM
You make a good point, Tuukka. Not just one director should have the privelege to adapt a book to film, even if the first adaptation was great (which I still maintain with a passion!). I should give Spielberg some credit. Despite some aspects of his recent films that frustrate the hell out of me, he does have a great cinematic eye. (I think his talent is the reason that what I consider to be his "bad habits" are so disappointing.) I think it's the fact that I so recently revisited the original, and admired it so much, that causes me so much annoyance upon hearing there will be a new version. Whether or not it will be any truer to the book remains to be seen. I just can't picture Tom Cruise speaking with an English accent...

chinton
04-21-2004, 07:59 PM
doesnt the book end with the aliens winning and the world destroyed or am I wrong. If it is Im curious how that will be tackled.

Mr. Fred Krueger
04-21-2004, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by chinton
doesnt the book end with the aliens winning and the world destroyed or am I wrong. If it is Im curious how that will be tackled.

Nope. :)

It basically ends with the aliens not being able to maintain our atmosphere, getting sick and dying.

Common Sense Man
04-21-2004, 11:11 PM
Megalo,

Welcome to the boards.

Tukka, see the 50's version my man! It may have it's flaws concering effects and it may differ from the book but I agree with Megalo that it is fantastic.

http://www.physics.hku.hk/~tboyce/sf/topics/Image1.jpg

I admit I have never read the book, but I think I will be tracking it down now as I truly enjoyed the movie.

As far as remakes in general I agree that Hollywood often takes the easy road and simply updates the effects or the basic quality of the flick and throws it back at us.

And by quality I simply mean the film stock used or other techniques that make todays movies more viewer friendly.

I have liked most of Spielbergs work except when he feels the need to go back and tamper because of political correctness and the like.

But I do agree that he can be a bit heavy handed when it comes to emotions and messages.

I am not saying he could not make a wonderful adaptation of WotW especially if he sticks more to the story.

But I can understand how a remake of Starsky and Hutch can seem less offensive than a remake of WotW as, at least to me S&H didn't have much of an impact to start with.

I think that if a Director or Studio wants to remake or retell a story that's fine.

But put some thought and effort into it. Too much of what we see today in the way of Hollywood remakes are simple regurgitations of stories that were never that engaging to start with.

And as much as I liked the floating streamlined ships from the 50's movie. Seeing towering walkers could be interesting also, as long as they did not look like ATAT's on steroids.

Out............................................... ...........

dellamorte dellamore
04-23-2004, 10:30 AM
Didn't they already remake this film , it was called Independence Day .

m ali
04-23-2004, 03:18 PM
I will be defiantley looking forward to this film.

Zebra 3
04-24-2004, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Common Sense Man
...But I can understand how a remake of Starsky and Hutch can seem less offensive than a remake of WotW as, at least to me S&H didn't have much of an impact to start with.
I don't know about offensive, but I really didn't care for WB's Starsky & Hutch's goofy remake. As for World of the Wars goes, I'm not a big sci-fi fan, but I do greatly appreciate HG Wells' stories.

Maeljin_incarna
05-04-2004, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore
Didn't they already remake this film , it was called Independence Day .
I thought it was called Signs.;)

dellamorte dellamore
05-05-2004, 08:30 AM
The Signs of Independence Day .



Spoilers


That's a good point , but ID more closely resembles WOTW , it even uses the same ending . In ID the aliens are destroyed with a computer virus , in WOTW the aliens are destroyed because of the common cold .