-- Verify Your Downloads Here --

[Adornado]

If your someone who likes to download movies on WinMx, Kazaa etc; then you probably know how hard it is to get the actual file. So with this thread we can post the filenames of the movies we downloaded that aren't fakes.

Kill Bill = Kill.Bill.Vol.1.(FTM).DivX.WP.DaDuck.avi

School Of Rock = School.Of.Rock.PROPER.(loGisTic).DivX.TS.XceL.avi

High Fidelity = High Fidelity [DivX].avi

The Last Samurai = The.Last.Samurai.TS.SVCD-MPT.DIVX_Xtech.avi

Elf = Elf.(VideoCD).DivX.TS.DaDuck.avi

All come from Kazaa Lite K++-

[bigshot]

Sorry man i dont think this is one of those forums dude.

[Adornado]

Originally posted by bigshot
Sorry man i dont think this is one of those forums dude.

This thread (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73514&highlight=download)

This thread (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69387&highlight=download)

This thread (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18742&highlight=download)

This thread (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48475&highlight=download)

This thread (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46139&highlight=download)

This thread (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44633&highlight=download)

This thread (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43068&highlight=download)

This thread (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38018&highlight=download)

And many more threads like it weren't closed so I don't see why this one is inappropriate.

[Mr. Durden^3]

Open.Range.(TCR).DivX.TS.DaDuck.avi

Paycheck.PROPER-SVCD-ThP.TS.DIVX_Xtech.avi

The Wizard of Oz.avi

Pi (DVD Rip - DivX).avi

[MacReady]

I'm dying to find out if there's an authenthic, working file of Eternal Sunshine For The Spotless Mind on Kazaa somewhere. Has anybody found one?

[Adornado]

Originally posted by Mr. Durden^3


Paycheck.PROPER-SVCD-ThP.TS.DIVX_Xtech.avi

Thanks! I've been looking to download this one for a while...are you using Kazaa Lite?

Also, has anyone had luck downloading The Punisher (Thomas Jane version), Walking Tall (either one, I have the original downloading on WinMx but it's either sloooow or just not working), The Girl Next Door or Jersey Girl?

[Moviefan1234]

Instead of illegally and immorally downloading movies, why don't you see them in the theatre or have a little patience and wait for the DVDs?

[TATU]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Instead of illegally and immorally downloading movies, why don't you see them in the theatre or have a little patience and wait for the DVDs?

Why don't you stop preaching?

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Instead of illegally and immorally downloading movies, why don't you see them in the theatre or have a little patience and wait for the DVDs?

Immoral? What's so immoral about it? Isn't there worse things to worry about, like murderers on the streets and guys selling crack to nine-year-olds?

[TATU]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Instead of illegally and immorally downloading movies, why don't you see them in the theatre or have a little patience and wait for the DVDs?

Why don't you stop your stupid preaching?

[Adornado]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Instead of illegally and immorally downloading movies, why don't you see them in the theatre or have a little patience and wait for the DVDs?

It's not like I don't buy/rent DVDs or go to the theater. Hell, this week alone I've been at the theater twice and rented two DVDs.

I, and many others, wouldn't download movies if these two things happened:

1. The ridiculous ticket prices came down

and

2. When people like Rick Sands (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php? s=&threadid=75158) quit the movie business.

Also, what is it to you if people download? Why did you even post in this thread?

Why don't you stop your stupid preaching?

We heard you this first time TATU, ;)

[JohnTheHenchman]

It's no more immoral than downloading songs, but I'm sure no one does that.

Since my friend who works at a theater lets me in to see movies without paying, does that make me an illegal and immoral person?

[Mr. Durden^3]

Originally posted by MacReady
I'm dying to find out if there's an authenthic, working file of Eternal Sunshine For The Spotless Mind on Kazaa somewhere. Has anybody found one?

Heh, that was me about 2 weeks ago until somebody told my stupid ass to check Soulseek, which I've only used for music.

So use Soulseek, stupid ass!

Or better yet, mIRC or Direct Connect.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
Since my friend who works at a theater lets me in to see movies without paying, does that make me an illegal and immoral person?

Let's just say...

http://www.hotboxdesigns.com/NewFiles/electric%20chair.jpg

;)

[Mr. Durden^3]

Originally posted by Adornado
Thanks! I've been looking to download this one for a while...are you using Kazaa Lite?

Indeed.

[Moviefan1234]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
Immoral? What's so immoral about it? Isn't there worse things to worry about, like murderers on the streets and guys selling crack to nine-year-olds?

Movies are copyrighted material. The same as books or magazine articles. Downloading a movie is the same as stealing. Besides being a wrong deed, it's also against the law.

Originally posted by TATU
Why don't you stop your stupid preaching?

Nice arguments you have there.

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
It's no more immoral than downloading songs, but I'm sure no one does that.


That's on the same level. It's the same as walking into a store and sliding a CD underneath your coat. There's no difference.

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
Since my friend who works at a theater lets me in to see movies without paying, does that make me an illegal and immoral person?

A deed that screams death.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
[B]Movies are copyrighted material. The same as books or magazine articles. Downloading a movie is the same as stealing. Besides being a wrong deed, it's also against the law.

Think this will stop people from downloading? I think they know the risks already, anyway. And how is it stealing, exactly?

Nice arguments you have there.

I wouldn't be talkin'. ;)

That's on the same level. It's the same as walking into a store and sliding a CD underneath your coat. There's no difference.

I once downloaded The Two Towers. And how many times have I seen it in theaters? FOUR times. And I own the theatrical edition and the Extended Edition on DVD. So am I immoral and a thief now?

A deed that screams death.

Joke, I hope.

[Adornado]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Movies are copyrighted material. The same as books or magazine articles. Downloading a movie is the same as stealing. Besides being a wrong deed, it's also against the law.

OK, since you used a book in your example, I'll use it in mine also.

Example 1

You purchase a book and read it. You tell your friend how good it is and he asks if you could lend it to him.

Would you?

Because going by what your saying, that's against the law. He gets to read copyrighted material for free.

Example 2

Do you listen to the radio? If yes, then your listening to music for free. But isn't that the same as downloading a song?

[Mr. Durden^3]

Can you guys just shut the fuck up about this morality shit?

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Adornado
OK, since you used a book in your example, I'll use it in mine also.

Example 1

You purchase a book and read it. You tell your friend how good it is and he asks if you could lend it to him.

Would you?

Because going by what your saying, that's against the law. He gets to read copyrighted material for free.

Jackpot! You're not going to make it illegal to lend books to someone for free, will you? Didn't think so.

[Adornado]

Originally posted by Mr. Durden^3
Can you guys just shut the fuck up about this morality shit?

Ask us nicely and we might think about considering it.

;)

[Mr. Durden^3]

Originally posted by Mr. Durden^3
Can you guys please just shut the fuck up about this morality shit?

[Moviefan1234]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
Joke, I hope.

Yes, it was a joke. I think people on here know me better than that.

And Adornado, you are making me wish I never used that damn book example.

I just find it wrong downloading a movie. It's completely unnecessary in my eyes with the DVD market. Patience is a virtue.

[Adornado]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Yes, it was a joke. I think people on here know me better than that.

And Adornado, you are making me wish I never used that damn book example.


Well yeah, I'm just that good. ;)

Alright pal, let's just agree to disagree -- deal?



But I'm right. :D

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
I just find it wrong downloading a movie. It's completely unnecessary in my eyes with the DVD market. Patience is a virtue.

What about movies that are not avaliable on DVD? I was downloading vintage animation for years off the internet. I still do, there's a ton of rare stuff of Looney Tunes that the asswipes at WB and Turner aren't releasing, and Popeye is not avaliable on video. Any good video releases of Betty Boop are on OOP laserdisc. Don't get me started on silent animation. And there's a nice chunk of forgotten movies not avaliable on video that I'd like to find on the internet.

[Moosem216]

Wow, this thread exploded beyond its original purpose rapidly. I'm not going to get too involved, because I don't think this is the kind of issue you can convince people to change their minds on. Like abortion, piracy has become a pretty emotional issue.

If a movie I like comes out on DVD, and I think I'll see it alot, I buy it. I go to the theatres about once a week. I suscribe to netflix. And I own over 80 movies on DVD now. I see nothing wrong with the fact I had downloaded some other stuff. I downloaded Kill Bill over XMas because it wasn't out on DVD and the stripped down one they put out looked like shit. However, I still plan on buying the kickass twopack they will doubtlessly make.

I also download tv episodes that i have no access to through legitimate means. For example, my roommate and I have between us over 200 episodes of the Simpsons. I have all 193 episodes of the classic Ninja turtle show. And I have all 75 episodes of the classic X-Men cartoon from the early nineties. And as that stuff becomes available on DVD, I'll get it. I have the first 3 seasons of The Simpsons and the first season of TMNT on dvd, and will get the rest as they come.

As for morality, I dunno. I feel bad outright stealing a movie I like from an artist I respect. For example, I wouldn't steal a Quintin Tarantino or Ed Norton movie. I'd at least use Netflix to rent it. And in practical terms, the quality can generally be a lot shittier.

But as for music- I dowload whatever I want. The quality is the same, and I say fuck the record company mother fuckers. They are corporate whores making a fortune through other people's talent, and they can starve for all I care. Music artist see almost none of the money from their cd sales; all their fortune generally comes from live performances.

But yeah, this thread was definitely a good idea, and we should try and keep the morality somewhere else.

[Winston Wolfe]

Originally posted by Mr. Durden^3
Can you guys just shut the fuck up about this morality shit?

I suggest you re-read our #1 BOARD RULE here (http://www.joblo.com/rules.htm) before posting in our forums again.

[syxxpac]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Patience is a virtue.

I'm a patient man. That's what 19 months in a Vietnamese prison camp'll do to ya.

[someguy]

Step 1: Install BitTorrent here

http://www.bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/

Step 2: Go download stuff that is real and virus free(most of them) here

www.suprnova.org

[badberry]

someguy speaks the truth. Kazaa sucks.

I think this thread was a decent idea, but of course people try to wreck it with the finger wagging....

If you're against movie downloading, that's fine, but this isn't the thread to discuss it in. Do you really think you're going to change anyone's mind?

[Psychocandy]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Instead of illegally and immorally downloading movies, why don't you see them in the theatre or have a little patience and wait for the DVDs?

See them in the theatre? I do. I have an annual pass that allows me to see as many movies as I like as many times as I like. As for the DVD issue. I currently spend more money than I can afford on DVDs as it is. My thirst for movies does, however, outstrip my financial status by a considerable margin. As a result I download movies, buy them from a contact I gained via Ebay or just rent them and copy them myself. Just this weekend though I bought over half a dozen movies whilst in Edinburgh attending a film festival. I'll likely order another couple online today and I don't doubt that i'll likely buy another couple as the week progresses. I don't feel guilty for downloading or copying movies as i'm making a considerable financial investment in increasing my collection of originals pretty much all the time.

As for where to get movies. Kazaa sucks and Bittorrent is a bit slow. Newsgroups is where it's at folks...NEWSGROUPS!!!

[BubbaStrangelove]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
Since my friend who works at a theater lets me in to see movies without paying, does that make me an illegal and immoral person?


No, but your friend could get fired.

It's my understanding that movie chains have a policy that can result in termination of an employee for them "giving out" free movies. These policies are in place to make the movie companies happy - insurance that everyone pays for their copyrighted material.










My question is.... when people are accussed of breaking the law, why do they immediately compare it to a worst case scenario.

Do you think that if a cop pulls you over speeding, it can go like this:

POLICE: Do you know why I pulled you over?

- : Yeah, I was speeding! So what? It isn't like I'm out raping little children! Don't you have anything better to do than mess with people breaking small laws like traffic violations. Geez!

POLICE: Oh. Daz my bad d00d.


Yeah....

But guess what?

I have been known to download movies. I've also been known to speed.

Not no more though. I'm a good citizen.

[JohnTheHenchman]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
No, but your friend could get fired.

It's my understanding that movie chains have a policy that can result in termination of an employee for them "giving out" free movies. These policies are in place to make the movie companies happy - insurance that everyone pays for their copyrighted material.


Nope, my friend couldn't and wouldn't get fired. The management lets employees let a few people they know in for free, it's not like the same people don't go there and pay, so they don't care about giving out freebies every now and then.

[Adornado]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
Nope, my friend couldn't and wouldn't get fired. The management lets employees let a few people they know in for free, it's not like the same people don't go there and pay, so they don't care about giving out freebies every now and then.

Yep, my local theater lets employees family members in for free.

[JohnTheHenchman]

I tend to frequent said theater more often than the big loews theaters. Even though this one is part of a chain itself, the ticket prices are still fairly reasonable...so I usually go there anyway. Letting me in for free every now and then is a good reason to keep me coming.

[Moviefan1234]

Some of you are saying you spend large sums of money on movies, so it should be okay for you to download them. It doesn't matter. A sin is a sin regardless of what you've done. Breaking the law is breaking the law. If a police officer was standing directly behind you, would you download a movie right in front of him/her? I didn't think so.

[Adornado]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Some of you are saying you spend large sums of money on movies, so it should be okay for you to download them. It doesn't matter. A sin is a sin regardless of what you've done. Breaking the law is breaking the law. If a police officer was standing directly behind you, would you download a movie right in front of him/her? I didn't think so.

Look, your not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours.

And downloading movies is not a sin.

[Psychocandy]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
If a police officer was standing directly behind you, would you download a movie right in front of him/her? I didn't think so.

It depends on the police officer. A colleague of mine's dad is a Police Officer and i've lent her a whole bunch of movies and he's watched a bunch of them with her. I know for a fact (through talking to her dad) that the majority of police officers aren't interested in investing any time trying to catch people who are copying or downloading movies for their own personal use because their time would be better spent in other areas. Also...do you know that just recording a TV program or movie off of the TV is technically just as big a contravention of the law as copying or downloading a movie. In the eyes of the law it's just as serious a crime. You are still taking a copy of something that is copyrighted and often available to buy. If you don't have a collection of movies you have recorded off TV then fair enough...if you do then please don't preach to people that download or copy DVDs that they are doing something wrong. I know i'm doing something wrong but there is a difference between wrong and harmful. Me downloading or copying a movie is not harmful.

[Moviefan1234]

Originally posted by Adornado
Look, your not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours.


I'm getting tired of this bickering too. I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.

[Adornado]

Originally posted by Psychocandy
It depends on the police officer. A colleague of mine's dad is a Police Officer and i've lent her a whole bunch of movies and he's watched a bunch of them with her. I know for a fact (through talking to her dad) that the majority of police officers aren't interested in investing any time trying to catch people who are copying or downloading movies for their own personal use because their time would be better spent in other areas. Also...do you know that just recording a TV program or movie off of the TV is technically just as big a contravention of the law as copying or downloading a movie. In the eyes of the law it's just as serious a crime. You are still taking a copy of something that is copyrighted and often available to buy. If you don't have a collection of movies you have recorded off TV then fair enough...if you do then please don't preach to people that download or copy DVDs that they are doing something wrong. I know i'm doing something wrong but there is a difference between wrong and harmful. Me downloading or copying a movie is not harmful.

Exactly!

Police are far more concerned with catching real criminals (i.e. rapists, perverts, killers, etc; ) then busting teenagers who download a handful of movies. I can see them arresting someone who is making a profit and if they could make a sizeable bust (like hundreds of movies) but I don't know anyone around here getting in legal trouble for downloading movies.

As for music, it's L-E-G-A-L in good ol' Canada :cool:

[Adornado]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
I'm getting tired of this bickering too. I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.

That's what I said 15 posts ago, ;)

[Moviefan1234]

Originally posted by Adornado
That's what I said 15 posts ago, ;)

I wasn't ready to give it up then, but now I can see we're just running in circles.

[one_crow_sorrow]

Originally posted by TATU
Why don't you stop your stupid preaching?

Why don't you stop posting things twice and respect your fellow Schmoes?

[Adornado]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
I wasn't ready to give it up then, but now I can see we're just running in circles.

Indeed...it's clear we're not going to change each others opinion so I'm just going to continue living my sinful life ;)

[Moosem216]

Originally posted by Adornado
As for music, it's L-E-G-A-L in good ol' Canada :cool:

Is it really? Wow. That is yet another tempting reason for me to ditch the states and head north.

[Adornado]

Originally posted by Moosem216
Is it really? Wow. That is yet another tempting reason for me to ditch the states and head north.

Pack your bags and cross the border (http://larrymaki.typepad.com/the_mak/2004/03/filesharing_in_.html)

[one_crow_sorrow]

Originally posted by Moosem216
Is it really? Wow. That is yet another tempting reason for me to ditch the states and head north.

Yup. Sure is good to be Canadian :cool:

[JohnTheHenchman]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Some of you are saying you spend large sums of money on movies, so it should be okay for you to download them. It doesn't matter. A sin is a sin regardless of what you've done. Breaking the law is breaking the law. If a police officer was standing directly behind you, would you download a movie right in front of him/her? I didn't think so.

Jesus died so that I could download movies apparently.

I don't get that if I have every intention of buying a film when it comes out on dvd, why it is such a heinous act to get my fix of of it via the internet. I'm going to buy it anyway.

Why would a police officer be standing behind me while I'm on a computer in my own home?

[someguy]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Some of you are saying you spend large sums of money on movies, so it should be okay for you to download them. It doesn't matter. A sin is a sin regardless of what you've done.

I'm not Catholic so that doesn't apply to me :D

[BubbaStrangelove]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
Nope, my friend couldn't and wouldn't get fired. The management lets employees let a few people they know in for free, it's not like the same people don't go there and pay, so they don't care about giving out freebies every now and then.


Oh, I didn't realize you had an arrangement in place with the management. I going on the worst case scenario. It seemed like when I knew people who worked at McDonalds, and the managers knew about me getting "free" food. I mean, everyone was cool with it, but it wasn't really free -- everyone was just cool with it.

Anyway - even though the manager was cool, the distict manager wasn't cool, and slapped down on the manager, who in turn slapped down on my friend.

I just assumed it was something like that.

Otherwise, I assume that you agree it would be stupid to tell a cop, who pulled you over for speeding, that your traffic violation was far worse than a rape, and that they should let you go.

That's all I'm saying. People need to take more responsibility for what they do.

Back in my day, us kids would break the law, and we'd be proud of it. Yeah - all the adults would call us "little criminals" and we liked it! But these damn kids today with their Johnny Cochran's and their Barry Cohens.... In my day, you know who represented criminals - one guy called "No Speak To Good" JJ - And if you broke a law "No Speak Too Good" JJ would be your lawyer, and you would go to jail, because he no speak too good...... AND WE LIKED IT!

[Jamesadin]

I agree that it might be wrong. Do I still do it, sure...


The thing about me is... I love movies, I just dont have enough money to buy the movies I really want to watch. So, whats left? DOWNLOADING!

[HHH123007]

I don't download movies because I have a slow-ass 56K connection....but even if I had a cable modem, I don't think I would. Not because it's illegal, but because I love going to the theater. I like seeing how the crowd shows up/reacts to certain films, trailers, etc....

Actually, on second thought, I think everyone should download films off the internet....if only to get back at "Manny The Stuntdouche". That hoser won't stop telling me that downloading is wrong EVERY TIME I PAY $6.50 TO SEE SOMETHING.