Top Vietnam Movies

[kopikat]

This are, in my opinion,the best Vietnam Movies (ranked from 1 to 5):
1- Platoon
2- The Deer Hunter
3- Apocalypse Now
4- Born the Fourth of July
5- Full Metal Jacket
6- Heaven & Earth

[Nate6]

You said 1 to 5 but hilariously you have six there.

1. Full Metal Jacket
2. Apocalypse Now
3. Born on the Fourth of July
4. Platoon
5. Coming Home

[The Professional]

1.Casualties Of War
2.Three Kings.

[Puck Bond]

Professional...Three Kings is not the Vietnam War but the Gulf War.

1. Platoon
2. Apocalypse Now
3. Full Metal Jacket
4. The Deer Hunter
5. Born on the Fourth of July

[kopikat]

Ohh, shit, I totally forgot about casualties of War. I must modifify my ranking now (from 1 to 7 now, Nate):
1- Platoon
2- The Deer Hunter
3- Apocalypse Now
4- Born the Fourth of July
5- Full Metal Jacket
6- Casualties of war.
7- Heaven & Earth---> by the way: has anyone seen/like this one?

P.S: Nate-->Coming Home: never heard of it. I´ll rent it as soon as I find out what´s its name in spanish.

[Nate6]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kopikat:
Ohh, shit, I totally forgot about casualties of War. I must modifify my ranking now (from 1 to 7 now, Nate):
1- Platoon
2- The Deer Hunter
3- Apocalypse Now
4- Born the Fourth of July
5- Full Metal Jacket
6- Casualties of war.
7- Heaven & Earth---&gt; by the way: has anyone seen/like this one?

P.S: Nate--&gt;Coming Home: never heard of it. I´ll rent it as soon as I find out what´s its name in spanish.

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I've never seen HEAVEN & EARTH, is that an Oliver Stone film?

COMING HOME is not quite like PLATOON or APOCALYPSE NOW, it is mainly a love story about a woman falling in love with a man while her husband is fighting in Vietnam, it DOES count as a war movie because there are considerable amounts of war in it but it's not the main focus of the story. It won Oscars for Best Actor (Jon Voight), Best Actress (Jane Fonda) and Best Screenplay, and was nominated for Best Picture, Director (Hal Ashby) and some others.

[kopikat]

I made a review of Heaven & Earth. You can find it on the Video Capsules forum.

[QUENTIN]

1. Apocalypse Now (the greatest war film of all time)
2. Platoon
3. Born On The Fourth of July
4. The Deer Hunter
5. Full Metal Jacket

Casualties of War and Heaven and Earth are also good and Hamburger Hill has it's moments.

I HATE Jane Fonda and thus wasn't a huge fan of Coming Home, it seemed everyone besides Voight was a selfish and uninteresting character, it also seems a bit dated which is odd considering it isn't very old. Wasn't terrible though and Jon was very good...I just can't relate or feel for any characters that bitch Fonda plays so placing her in the lead is usually a bad move for me...

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[Nate6]

That's fine, everyone has their own opinion http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Jane Fonda must have stiffed you on an autograph or something, I don't think she's a bad actress at all.

Sometimes I enjoy dated movies (lol) http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[DaN]

Platoon
Apocalypse Now (almost equal to platoon0
Born on the Fourth of July
The Deer Hunter
Full Metal Jacket

The scenes in Forrest Gump were good too. But that's not a vietnam movie.

Ok, I see that we ALL have basically the same damn movies in this list.

[QUENTIN]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nate6:

Jane Fonda must have stiffed you on an autograph or something, I don't think she's a bad actress at all.
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Actually, she killed four men. Now whether it was for a good political cause or not she directly led to the death of four American soldiers in Vietnam. And I think that is absolutely unforgivable. Now I'd be able to see past that if she had some serious talent, look at her as an actress not a person (Jack Nicholson's an asshole and Ozzy Osbourne shot a guy to death, but Nicholson's a great fucking actor and Black Sabbath kicks ass) but I just don't think she is. In On Golden Pond she does nothing of note, was the worst of the three main actresses in 9 to 5, in Coming Home she seemed about as worthy an Oscar as Julia Roberts was for Erin Brockovich, and in The China Syndrome she played the Faye Dunaway character not as well as Faye could have. Admittedly I haven't seen Klute, which some say is her best, but I see nothing good about her acting and because personally she's done some horrible things (though thankfully, she hasn't made any movies in 11 years now) I downright loathe her...Also forgetting anything personal, she's one of those Shelley Duvall types, I just can't stand her presence on screen...


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[Nate6]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by QUENTIN:

Actually, she killed four men. Now whether it was for a good political cause or not she directly led to the death of four American soldiers in Vietnam. And I think that is absolutely unforgivable. Now I'd be able to see past that if she had some serious talent, look at her as an actress not a person (Jack Nicholson's an asshole and Ozzy Osbourne shot a guy to death, but Nicholson's a great fucking actor and Black Sabbath kicks ass) but I just don't think she is. In On Golden Pond she does nothing of note, was the worst of the three main actresses in 9 to 5, in Coming Home she seemed about as worthy an Oscar as Julia Roberts was for Erin Brockovich, and in The China Syndrome she played the Faye Dunaway character not as well as Faye could have. Admittedly I haven't seen Klute, which some say is her best, but I see nothing good about her acting and because personally she's done some horrible things (though thankfully, she hasn't made any movies in 11 years now) I downright loathe her...Also forgetting anything personal, she's one of those Shelley Duvall types, I just can't stand her presence on screen...</font>

Vietnam was a terrible war that Americans had NO business being in, just shows you how violent the country is.

Otherwise, I don't believe there is any REAL proof that Jane Fonda had anything to do with torture, etc. etc. According to several books and websites, those are mostly urban legends and old wives' tales.

She may have supported the other side, but that was HER choice.

Now, I understand that you may not like her, that's a personal opinion, but you don't go badmouthing Julia Roberts around me!

She wasn't the most deserving actress last year (I would rather have seen Joan Allen or Ellen Burstyn win) but she is nothing if not talented. Most people may disagree, but I think she was VERY Oscar-worthy for the wonderful NOTTING HILL (yes, I'm a straight guy who enjoys NOTTING HILL), and she didn't even get a nomination. Much as is the case for Al Pacino, Russell Crowe and James Coburn, her Oscar was known as a make-up Oscar ("Well, we screwed ya before, here's your payback").

But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

[QUENTIN]

I don't believe she's ever been worthy of an Oscar, but she does have good screen presence and is at the very least quite charming in some roles (Pretty Woman, Everyone Says I Love You, Notting Hill). I did like Notting Hill quite a bit for a romantic comedy, but didn't think it was so great as to deserve on Oscar or even a nod san maybe Rhys Ifans. I agree Julia has been good enough in her career to garner a nomfor something (just not sure what, what they originally gave her, Pretty Woman and Steel Magnolias I can live with) but her being "America's Sweetheart" doesn't mean she deserves to win for a bad role, or that she was due. Harrison Ford and Tom Cruise still have never won an Oscar, so her being popular shouldn't have anything to do with her winning.


As for Fonda, she admitted at the time that while she was in Vietnam with a documentary crew, and she was allowed to see American POW's being held captive, four of them slipped her a note and told her to bring it back to America, so that the prisoners could be found and rescued. Instead Fonda gave the note to one of the Vietnamese camp officials and the four men were excecuted. At the time she said she did what was right because it was a horrible war, commenting later she said she regrets their deaths but does not feel responsible. Either way you slice it, Vietnam was a terrible war, and yes it was fucked, and yes I'm against what happened too, but you shouldn't let political activism kill four of your countrymen.

Also, all that shite aside, I just can't stand her, just doesn't seem to have much talent beyond her namesake...

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[Nate6]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by QUENTIN:
I don't believe she's ever been worthy of an Oscar, but she does have good screen presence and is at the very least quite charming in some roles (Pretty Woman, Everyone Says I Love You, Notting Hill). I did like Notting Hill quite a bit for a romantic comedy, but didn't think it was so great as to deserve on Oscar or even a nod san maybe Rhys Ifans. I agree Julia has been good enough in her career to garner a nomfor something (just not sure what, what they originally gave her, Pretty Woman and Steel Magnolias I can live with) but her being "America's Sweetheart" doesn't mean she deserves to win for a bad role, or that she was due. Harrison Ford and Tom Cruise still have never won an Oscar, so her being popular shouldn't have anything to do with her winning.


As for Fonda, she admitted at the time that while she was in Vietnam with a documentary crew, and she was allowed to see American POW's being held captive, four of them slipped her a note and told her to bring it back to America, so that the prisoners could be found and rescued. Instead Fonda gave the note to one of the Vietnamese camp officials and the four men were excecuted. At the time she said she did what was right because it was a horrible war, commenting later she said she regrets their deaths but does not feel responsible. Either way you slice it, Vietnam was a terrible war, and yes it was fucked, and yes I'm against what happened too, but you shouldn't let political activism kill four of your countrymen.

Also, all that shite aside, I just can't stand her, just doesn't seem to have much talent beyond her namesake...</font>

I'm not quite sure that Harrison Ford had ever been deserving of an Oscar (except maybe for WITNESS) and Tom Cruise blew his chances with the great MAGNOLIA by being nominated in the same year as sentimental favorite Michael Caine. Cruise will probably eventually win an Oscar, eventually. Remember Henry Fonda was 77 and on death's door when he finally won an Oscar, maybe that's what will happen to Cruise.

Speaking of Henry Fonda, it's quite obvious that his daughter can't match up to him in talent or dignity. I respect the fact that you think she's a bad actress, that's solely your opinion. LOL wasn't this post originally about the top 5 Vietnam films?

[SIREN30]

I like Good Morning Vietnam the best. An interesting character through which they chose to tell the tale.

[kopikat]

Good Morning Vietnam was good,however, it was more a dramatic comedy than a Vietnam movie.