Harry Potter 3- Butchered!

[alkysag]

Thsi movie was a great letdown! I just saw it today and it made me want to be sucked up by dementors! There are some huge parts left out that contribute to the next two books! They are:

1. The hogsmead permission slip that Harry recieves from Sirius!

2. Pig (the owl that Ron recieves from Sirius)

3. Shopping in Diagon Ally and looking at firebolt, going to the pet shop etc!

4. Harry doent know who Moony, Padfoot, Prongs and Wormtail are!!!! (his father, Lupin, Sirius, Peter)

5. Sirius standing above Ron with a knife!

6. How Sirius got out of Azcaban ("He's at Hogwarts, Hes at Hogwarts!)

7. The knight that took over for the fat lady! How he changed all the paswords! Neville wrote them down and Siruis found them!

8. It seems that Harry never went ot any of his classes!

9. The whole year at Hogwarts It went by soooo fast!

And thats all I can think of for now! But there are a lot more! WE NEED CHRIS COLUMBUS BACK! This new director falls very shorto Chris's movies! This new directer doesnt do JK Rowling justice!

And the dementor didnt take off his hood!!!!! I was looking forward to that! :(

[BorderEevilIII]

Those who read the book like I have must be shaking their heads at this...
I myself read it MANY months and revistied again just for the hell of it before seeing the movie.
I do agree yes that A LOT of detail was overlooked and left out. My ONLY major gripe that director Curaon version of Azkaban seemed RUSHED. But still the movie did offer some pretty good moments. But ya gotta figure that there's sooo much to pack into a 2 hour Movie. I am just hoping that Mike Newell who's doing Goblet is not follow the route of Azkaban.

[alkysag]

They could have made the movie longer than two hours... Lord of the Rings was 3 and a half hours and they are not nearly as interesting as Harry Potter... ANd Lord of the Rings does not have a sexi star.... but thanks for agreeing with us seeing as we're always right...

[Uno Diamante]

I agree that the movie was not the greatest. The parts that were done, had exceptional effects and the acting was great. The kids and adults have all really grown into their characters, but some other things i noticed that were not listed above are:

1. Lupin did not say he wrote the map, so that means that Harry does not know who Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs are, which also means that people who have not read the book would have no idea why the stag across the lake was significant or what it meant.

2. There was no mention of Lupin's potion until after we see him as a werewolf, and again, people who have not read the books would not know what the potion was.

3. There was no evidence of the true hatred that Snape had for Lupin, nor was there any mention of the trick Siruis played on Snape, the fact that James saved Snape from the trick, and also no mention that they all went to school together.

Im sure there are more but i cant think of them right now. But this movie does not do the book justice. People who have not read the books would be a bit lost in the story and there would be a lot of confusion about what goes on.

[Christoph]

There is only so much you can fit into a 2 and a half hour film. I was fully satisfied with the movie, even though I would have liked to see Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs. Cauron kicks Chris Columbus' mediocre ass.

[chinton]

Is it that you gusy are mad that he left out important parts or just parts. If its jus t parts then whats thge big deal. The books are only getting bigger and theyre not going to fit everything in

[Ducktape Man]

The biggest problem with the movie is that it exists! I can avoide the books but the commericals on TV are another matter...

[t3h Qster]

well I for one consider this Potter movie.....








best........why?

because instead of making it a movie version of a book, its a summarized movie of a great book....makes me wanna read Book 3 all over again.....bravo on the showmanship Alfonso!

[Skysaber]

Originally posted by alkysag
They could have made the movie longer than two hours... Lord of the Rings was 3 and a half hours and they are not nearly as interesting as Harry Potter... ANd Lord of the Rings does not have a sexi star.... but thanks for agreeing with us seeing as we're always right...

This makes me want to smack you.

[Uno Diamante]

chinton, I am upset because he left out things i believe are necessary for the next few books as well as things that people who have not read the book need to understand everything in the 3rd movie. For example, since Harry did not find out in the movie that his father's name was Prongs, nor that his father could turn into a stag because he was an animagus, people who have not read the book would have no idea whatsoever why the stag accross the stream was significant, nor what it meant or why it was there at all. Also, the hatred between Snape and James, Lupin and Sirius is a big part of the book..maybe not really completly necessary but i believe it leaves a few holes. Also, Sirius gives Harry a permission slip for hogsmead at the end. He never got it in the movie, which leaves that for the next director of the 4th movie. And the Firebolt he recived before he knew about Sirius being his Godfather. there are a few more little things but you get my point. I am not mad simply because he left things out. I know that you cannot fit everything into one movie, but i believe he left out a few very significant things.

[Nachokoolaid]

I thought this was by far, the best of the POTTER films. It didn't really have the "dull time" that the others had. This one kept its pace, and it was visually, a treat. Cuaron knew what he was doing with the visuals. I think someone else summed it up when they said thatthe book and film are two different entities. We didn't need to know some of the omissions, but they would have been nice add-ons. Personally, I thought the film was fine the way it was, although more Gary Oldman would have been nice.

Also, since no one mentioned it, there was also no Quidditch championship thing.

[chinton]

You make a good point although Rowling has to approve all changes so Im sure those detials will sneak into some movie. But I think its wrong to penalize a movie becuase it left out a few details. Im sorry Im just a big fan of this inventive film

[Uno Diamante]

chinton, don't get me wrong..i thought that the director did a great job with the effects and such...the movie in itself was excellent...i just think that the few things he left out that i feel are significant will make it a) difficult for people who have not read the book to understand the movie completely and b) more difficult for future directors to make their movies because especially for the 5th book, there are alot of things you find out in the 3rd book that are necessary for the 5th book. I think that they need to start making two part movies for this series because they will not be able to fit enough into one movie anymore because they are simply too long and there is too much information. But that is my opinion...I did enjoy the movie though..just when you go back and analyze it, i think they could/should have added in a few more things and/or switched a few things around. :)

[chinton]

if I had my druthers I as Im sure many othe r people would want two part films from now on. Sadly there is no way thats going to happen

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by chinton
You make a good point although Rowling has to approve all changes so Im sure those detials will sneak into some movie. But I think its wrong to penalize a movie becuase it left out a few details. Im sorry Im just a big fan of this inventive film

I agree that you shouldn't penalize a movie for leaving things from the book out.

Movies and books are two different mediums and I would judge this as a movie not as a book turned into a movie.

Of coarse I haven't read any of the Potter books (and I don't intend to either) so it's easy for me to do so.

I actually think this is the weakest of the Potter films. I love the Chamber of Secrets and this movie, while solid family entertainment, doesn't come close to it.

[chinton]

why dont you want to r ead the books, jus t not interested?

[Dixiecup]

I agree with whomever said that it should be done in the same way that LOTR is, longer, etc. However, with the expense, time, etc. that it takes to get them onto the screen, it's understandable that so much is left out. Also, with the kids, since they have lives outside of the set, and are getting older, I imagine the powers that be just try not to butcher anymore than they have to, and try to get the best product out thet they can.

[TheDeadWalk]

I usually don't step into this realm, but I saw two topics like this in the "recently active threads" section and felt like commenting.

The movie is not the book. I'm sorry. It's two separate forms of media entertainment. You have the book on your shelf, and the movie in the theater; they don't mix.

My only suggestion is to request that the next Harry Potter book be read aloud on screen by James Garner while the "Who's line is it anyways?" guys improv to it so you won't miss Harry getting his hogsmead permission slip.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by chinton
why dont you want to r ead the books, jus t not interested?

Yeah pretty much. I'm not into reading novels. It takes alot to get me interested to reading novels. Especially since the Harry Potter books are like a million pages long! ;)


To be fair the Harry Potter books come close to getting my interest but I'd rather see the movies.

[alkysag]

okay listen here... how can you criticize us for disliking a movie when you've never read the books?! problem #1 right there... second of all you need nearly all of the book to understand what happens in the later books in the series! how can you go through movies 4 and 5 without knowing the true hatred that was between snape and lupin? or that harrys father was friends with theM? its all highly important information! and you people sit here and criticize us for criticizing a movie that half of you know nothing about!

[Common Sense Man]

Well first off I have not read the books and at this stage I do not plan to.

But that does not mean I can't have an opinion about the movies, so here goes.

I feel that many of the faults of the previous two flicks were taken care of in this flick.

And by that I mean the TERRIBLE CGI of the first two, especially the Gumby Q-Matches. I know the match in this flick was short but when you saw the players they looked real this time, as Harry did when he was on the Hippagriff, much improved.

And the whole look of the film was greatly improved, the school looked much better. Much more like what I would expect a school or wizards to look like, much more life much more character and most importantly a bit of danger.

And maybe it was just the story itself but they finally did away with all the toy trappings of the first movies. Like when Harry fights the serpent with that sword that looked like it came out of a Happy Meal!

As far as the acting went, it was on par with the other flicks, and I enjoyed the story more.

The main reason I think was because of Oldman, he stole the show when he had scenes, they should have had more of him.

They also seemed to cut out a bit of the clowning that they had in the first two, maybe this is just a factor of the kids getting older.

But some of the same things that irked me about the first two remain, and this is plot stuff so any director would still run into these problems.

Each movie starts the exact same way, it is getting boring and redundent. I know when you read a series of novels you usually have a small recap at the beginning but in a movie you don't need that.

At least to me it seems as every movie starts like this.

Harry at his step parents living the brutal life of a hated cast off child. He fights thru it, does something sneaky or nasty to the family then he leaves for school.

Then they get on the train and have some adventure before they reach the school.

Oh, and don't forget that someone is out to kill Harry and this has to be established every film.

Yes I know the main plot line of the whole book is about Harry being threatened by the Big V so that is not really a problem but when added to the other two aspects it seems like we are getting a retread beginning each time.

You can already see the start of the 4th movie. Harry at home, something happens and he has to leave for school on the train, meet up with his friends, etc. etc.

Maybe this is just something that get me so I will stop bitchin about it.

And did Hagred or however you spell his name seem larger to you in this flick? I love that character but it seemed he was about two feet taller than normal in this chapter.

About the only other thing that tweaked me about the movie was the whomping willow and the fact that they stood under it for 10 minutes and it didn't whomp them!

Is it a selectively whomping willow?

Even though I am not a huge fan of the flicks I am glad they kept all the same characters and I think it will kill the pictures if they ever change main characters, it would be like some lame soap opera. Today the character of Harry will be played by Jeff Goldbloom.

So while I am not a fanatic I am looking forward to the next flick, especially now that I see all my movies for free.

I would give this chapter a 6 of 10, a little more Sirrius/Snape/Harry interaction would have made me rate it higher, or a bit more dementor action or revelation about who or what they were doing or what they are.

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[Horror whore]

Originally posted by Common Sense Man
About the only other thing that tweaked me about the movie was the whomping willow and the fact that they stood under it for 10 minutes and it didn't whomp them!

The reason the Whomping Willow didn't "whomp" them was because Lupin Stunned it when he went down.... In the books it's totally different and they have to use Hermione's cat to push a branch for the tree to calm down, I think they changed it because having him do a spell is much easier to understand.

And the 4th movie will not have the Dursley's in it (although they are in the book), and it does not immediately transition to Hogwarts. Harry and the Weasley's go to the Quidditch World Cup, which should be interesting to see on film.

[Common Sense Man]

Yah out of the whole flick that was the biggest peeve for me.

They showed the willow bashing everything in sight and then when Ron gets taken down and the others try to grab him they don't get wacked.

Then later as they all stand and discuss things no smack down.

If they showed anyone casting spells on the tree in the movie I must have missed it.

I will have to check out that part again.

Out.................................

[Atomyx]

I thought the movie was visually very beautiful but I thought that they could have put more story in there like I would have loved to see the whole Q-Cup thing play out, but if I had my way the movie would have been way longer and contained everything from the book, but that's just because I love the books so much. I was really dissapointed with the way the willow looked or that they changed the position of it in the movie, they could have easily kept those things the same. My only other gripe was what a terrible job they did in the Shrieking Shack, that was the only part I felt they really screwed up on.

[inglourious basterd]

I did not read the books prior to seeing HP3.

I did not like the film because I felt that the characters were too disconnected. This was a very evident difference from HP1 and HP2. I think this was a result of all the detail they cut.

Because I was dissatisfied with the film, I read books 3, 4, and 5 during/after my trip to the Philippines (it is 16 hours each way). The book was much better than the film.