Where To Go Now?

[XCoRyX]

Okay, its been done like no other, but since its most fitting in here, the question is simple, kind of ;)

Where do we go with the NOES series now? What storyline or plot? Go on...do tell,do tell..DO TELL!

[Luke-Abbott]

I guess the next step in the Elm Street series is possibly to forget that New Nightmare even exists in the Elm Street mythos (even though it is a good flick), and to create a new storyline alltogether or to go back and finish off the Alice and Jacob storyline.

Maybe.

[Cronos]

they should forget that the sequels ever happened and make Freddy a serious character, lost the one liners and crappy jokes, i think he has great potential as a scary villain

[Elgyn]

The best plot idea I can think of is that after the events of "FvJ", Freddy is now TRAPPED in the 'real world' and wants desperatly to get back to the 'dream world'.

It`s just a starting point......but hey, it`s something!

But I also think Cronos is right - make Freddy more serious again (though I didn`t mind him at all in 'FvJ").

[Cronos]

Originally posted by Elgyn
But I also think Cronos is right - make Freddy more serious again (though I didn`t mind him at all in 'FvJ").

i also didnt mind him in FVJ but he was more menacing in that than in NOEL 2-6

[XCoRyX]

I surely agree, Alice (lisa wilcox) NEEDS to get back in it...I don't know what to do with Jacob really, and I wouldn't want a group of 12-13 year olds fighting against freddy...I would maybe even have him killed off, show it in a dream sequence somehow noting the fact he died somehow, mix freddy into it, and have Alice want revenge, with other hopeless victims etc.,

[Elgyn]

Originally posted by XCoRyX
I surely agree, Alice (lisa wilcox) NEEDS to get back in it...I don't know what to do with Jacob really, and I wouldn't want a group of 12-13 year olds fighting against freddy...I would maybe even have him killed off, show it in a dream sequence somehow noting the fact he died somehow, mix freddy into it, and have Alice want revenge, with other hopeless victims etc.,



Doesn`t sound like too bad of an idea.
It`d almost be like "Kill Bill"........only with Alice wanting to "Kill Freddy"!
LOL, that could be the sequel`s subtitle!

[Duke Nukem]

Fifteen/sixteen years after "Part 5 - The Dream Child" and ignoring "Freddy's Dead," (thank god!) "New Nightmare" (naturally), and "Freddy vs. Jason" (it was only a spinoff of the two franchises) - Alice has been raising her son Jacob, the baby from part 5. He's now a teenager 15, 16, etc. He's having "Freddy" nightmares (his fear of him rekindles him). Freddy is slaughtering Jacob's friends and preying on him. Alice to the rescue! Well, along the line of that. The Alice/Jacob/Freddy storyline is the only loose end left that could be rekindled. One more Nightmare movie wouldn't do any harm. FvJ gave Freddy respect again after all.

[XCoRyX]

many including me feel the same way duke, i just don't want little teeny kids like hilary duff in a NOES flick, which is why I thought it best to have Jacob killed off before the movie even starts. Flashbacks, maybe...

[LoomisFan]

Originally posted by Cronos
i also didnt mind him in FVJ but he was more menacing in that than in NOEL 2-6
I thought that Freddy was at his darkest in the second one. There were absolutely no jokes from him at all (I mean, even in the first one, Freddy made that "No running in the halls" crack).

[Mog]

Nothing wrong with 15-16 year olds, just as long as they're casted right. Freddy's first victim in the series was Tina, and her character was 15. I always thought it would be cool to have a Freddy movie that all took place in the dream world. Maybe like in NOES 3 Freddy puts Alice in some kind of coma, and Jacob and his friends find themselves in some kind of hellish labyrnth run by Freddy himself. Maybe the big twist could be that Alice pulled Jacob and his friends/family members/whatever into her unconscious mind to end Freddy once and for all.

I dunno. Something along those lines. Cut back on some of the epic elements and throw in a little more horror, I think it could work.

[XCoRyX]

damn,tina was supposed to be 15? didn't even know that...they definetly miscasted for that role.

[X-Nightcrawler]

If they could bring Nancy back somehow . . . like, only in dreams she makes an appearance . . .

I don't know, everything's been explored, that's why these series are so quality.

[ERIN_LoJ]

Hate to say it, but I think we shoudl let Michael, Freddy, and Jason finally rest at peace and cherish the memories :(

[Labbla]

I think Freddy should have one more solo movie than hang up his glove for good.

[XCoRyX]

Originally posted by Labbla
I think Freddy should have one more solo movie than hang up his glove for good.

my thoughts exactly.

[starcat]

definately need to go for the alice angle... i know most people think of nancy as the heroine of the series... and as much as i like her i have to give that nod to alice.... as far as jacob....if its been like 15-16 years.... movie writers generally dont care to age kids 10 years in a couple of years...so i think that nudging a couple of years so jacob and his friends would be 17-18....and come on, a teen slasher is much more appealing than just freddy going after alice alone....but i love the idea of her going all kill bill when she finds out that hes back... have her in tip top form and ready to fight, cause shes kept herself trained while waiting for his inevitable return....kinda like sarah conner in t2....cast the jacob and his friends well...like donnie darko would be a good jacob, looks a little old maybe... but hey hollywood doesnt care... a little t and a, and a whole lot of freddy induced mayhem.... and as far as freddy hanging up his glove... as long as they dont make any more crap like freddys dead im there.... and its easy to sequel directly after that movie, cause really the new nightmare and fvj are not really sequels so much as they are companions to the movie.... kind of like the hobbit to the lord of the rings.... and i would much rather watch any freddy sequel compared to most of the stuff out today....

[Kevin Smith fan]

Originally posted by Luke-Abbott
I guess the next step in the Elm Street series is possibly to forget that New Nightmare even exists in the Elm Street mythos (even though it is a good flick), and to create a new storyline alltogether or to go back and finish off the Alice and Jacob storyline.

Maybe.

I think that they should keep with the direction that New Nightmare was going. That may be very interesting to see. But instead of breaking out of the dreamworld, he breaks out of the film world and into reality. He kills the victims in Freddy fashions to scare the piss out of everyone and make him become stronger. And as he did in New Nightmare, have him kill the actress who plays Alice and then have the plot revolve around Freddy chasing after the actor who played Jacob and a group of his teenaged friends. Or maybe even have Freddy kill all of the cast members from the serries and maybe even meet up with Robert Englund. I don't know how you'd bring him back to life after FVJ, but that sounds like a better idea than the old formula.

[Duke Nukem]

Originally posted by Kevin Smith fan
I think that they should keep with the direction that New Nightmare was going. That may be very interesting to see. But instead of breaking out of the dreamworld, he breaks out of the film world and into reality. He kills the victims in Freddy fashions to scare the piss out of everyone and make him become stronger. And as he did in New Nightmare, have him kill the actress who plays Alice and then have the plot revolve around Freddy chasing after the actor who played Jacob and a group of his teenaged friends. Or maybe even have Freddy kill all of the cast members from the serries and maybe even meet up with Robert Englund. I don't know how you'd bring him back to life after FVJ, but that sounds like a better idea than the old formula.

You have an interesting Idea there, but you would not have worry too much about bringing back Freddy. FvJ is a (fantastic) spinoff of the "Nightmare" and "Friday" series, nothing more, nothing less. Neither franchise really refers back that film or has elements that FvJ would refer to. If you wanted to bring back Freddy a la "New New Nightmare," just do another fresh film that follows in New Nightmare's storyline.

And, if you wanted to do a a regular "A Nightmare on Elm Street" film (in the movie world), and follow up with Alice and her teenage son Jacob...all they have to do ignore "Freddy's Dead" (it makes a jumbled mess of the storyline; Freddy killed just about all of Springwood's children? My ass!), "New Nightmare" (this would be a given, because it is set in "reality"), and naturally, "Freddy vs. Jason" because it is only a spinoff of the two franchises.

Freddy can come back to a good, fresh slate in again, in either "Wes Craven's New New Nightmare" (or obviously a different working title) or "A Nightmare on Elm Street 8: The Dream...".

[Labbla]

I don't think they will bring back Jacob or Alice. To much time has passed between those sequels and no one will know who they are. They will more than likely have a fresh cast (if a new solo Nightmare is ever made).

[Greenaway]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler

I don't know, everything's been explored, that's why these series are so quality.

Well, I don't know about that... I think that they have the exact opposite.

[Matchbox225]

If there's going to be another one, Wes Craven should direct. He started the nightmare. Only he should end it.

[XCoRyX]

i'd actually rather Craven NOT direct, and if anything have the director from Part 3 direct, or Ronny Yu perhaps.

[ERIN_LoJ]

Craven did direct part 3

[Duke Nukem]

Originally posted by ERIN_LoJ
Craven did direct part 3

Naw, he only helped produce it.

[teenkiller]

He co-wrote the original draft which was pretty drastically different from what ended up being made. Too much time has passed since THE DREAM CHILD. Eighteen years now. There is really no way they would continue a storyline with Alice, Jacob, or even Dr. Gordon. I wouldn't mind seeing a new cast of characters as long as the actors are unknowns. No more teeny bopper/hip hop/rap stars. It's been a long time since we have had a straight NIGHTMARE sequel. F vs J? Spinoff. NEW NIGHTMARE? Inconsistent with the rest of the series. FREDDY'S DEAD? We don't even know where in the timeline this takes place. That takes us back to 1989. Springwood has a whole generation of new children for FREDDY to tap into... Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[Duke Nukem]

You just read my mind, teenkiller. All except for the Alice and Jacob part. I honestly think they can still pull off a straight sequel continuing after Part 5 with Alice and her teenage son Jacob (disregarding "Freddy's Dead," "New Nightmare" and "FvJ" entirely). But ONLY if Lisa Wilcox returns. No Patricia Arquette/Tuesday Knight bullshit again. The basic storyline is simple; Jacob and his friends are plagued by Freddy nightmares and eventually Alice helps out. Who knows what they could do with that.

If not, Freddy preying on a new generation of Elm Street kids played by no-names (with decent visible talent, unlike Tuesday Knight) since Alice's time still works too. The best part of it is that if they want Freddy to be scary again, all they have to do is write him as scary. The same would work with a new F13 movie. It's not impossible to make these old pros scary again if you get the right writers. That's what I believe.

And yeah, I realized I got the "Wes Craven as producer for Part 3" wrong. I watched the boxset recently and in the labyrinth of special features, Wes Craven talks about writing the original draft. Ultimately, the final script had elements from the original draft and the new one from the new writers. A mix of both worlds.

[teenkiller]

Yeah Duke it's not exactly that I don't want them to continue with an Alice/Jacob storyline, it's just that I'm certain they wouldn't. LORD knows I would like to see Lisa Wilcox back in the mix as much as any other obsessive fanboy. Just like they'll never bring Tommy Jarvis back to the F13 series. It's the old "These characters aren't recognized by the mainstream public blah blah blah" story. Either way ROBERT ENGLUND isn't getting any younger and he has recently stated about how he knows he is going to be replaced sooner or later and how he's going to have to "pass the torch" to someone else sooner or later. I would just like to see him portray FREDDY for one true entry in the series one last time before that happens. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[XCoRyX]

Yeah,you're pretty much true...it would never happen in regards to the Alice storyline, but dammit wouldn't it be amazing? Haha.

I can't believe I made this thread nearly 3 years ago. Again I feel like such an old-head at age 20 being on this site sometimes haha.

I wouldn't mind random/new characters being born/introduced...I just fear that because of the terrible casting that could come out of it. If I see a Bow-Wow or Busta Rhymes in an NOES entry, I personally WANT Freddy to get me in my dreams.

Obviously fans like us could find and imagine decent casting for new characters, but everybody knows execs & casting directors will aim directly at a popular MTV-esque face.