And the douche bag award goes to... the Bill O'Reilly-bot

[Tweek]

I'm not sure if this should go here... meh.


Bill O'Reilly is such a humorless git.
I think he was built by the same people who made the al gore-bot, except instead of a boring but seemingly pleasant "person", we have a constipated jackass that doesn't seem to know what he's doing.


So in conclusion: Bill O'Reilly: Science experiment gone horribly wrong.




A stellar quote from him:

"I've been to Africa three times. All right? You can't bring Western reasoning into the culture. The same way you can't bring it into fundamental Islam."




Yes, because the whole of africa is under one culture, right? 56 countries... One culture. And every member of the population of africa is under the same mindset.:rolleyes:


What an asshead.

[kungfuchris]

yeah that guy is an absolute fool, he has nothing worthwhile to say.


another annoying thing he does is pretend he is some spokesman for the working class, if you gave that guy a hot dog he would not know what the hell to do with it.

[Tweek]

yeah he makes at least 4 million/yr.

he's far from "working class"

[flowrchild]

Bill O' Reilly is a blowhard asshole who is enamoured with the sound of his own voice. He passes off fiction as fact, thinks he can empathize with other cultures that he knows nothing about, and he is rude and patronizing to his guests. A dignified host does not yell "Shut up!" and "Cut the Mike!" when their guests are saying things they disagree with. I also heard him on talk radio the other day saying how he truly knows what it's like to be in the military because he was in other countries taking notes on the war. WITNESSING something and LIVING IT are two very different things, Billy boy.

He gets a big :rolleyes: on every level.

[outsyder]

Yes, yes, this is all nice and lovely, but perhaps the politics forums would be a better place, as the Rant, Rant, Rant section is about movies, rather than opinions on political analysers.

[Tweek]

yes, i've witnessed a police standoff

But i don't know what it's like to be the cops or the person inside the apartment

[Tweek]

Originally posted by outsyder
Yes, yes, this is all nice and lovely, but perhaps the politics forums would be a better place, as the Rant, Rant, Rant section is about movies, rather than political opinions.

well, i thought of putting it here because he's a television personality (using the word personality loosely)

but please, someone move it...

[tc1]

I like it when he spouts off about his journalistic credentials. Other than the show he's on now he was the host of Inside Edition. You remember the televised version of the Weekly World News.

[Tweek]

YES! Walter Cronkite\m/


ha, inside edition is shit. match made in heaven with bill oreilly.

[ilovemovies]

Way back when I had cable I found his show to be entertaining to watch alot of the time. But that was a couple of years ago. And the main thing I remember about him now was that infamous fued he had with George Clooney.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by flowrchild
I also heard him on talk radio the other day saying how he truly knows what it's like to be in the military because he was in other countries taking notes on the war. WITNESSING something and LIVING IT are two very different things, Billy boy.



I read a short story excerpt of "Dispatches" by Michael Herr, a journalist stationed in Vietnam. It's some whacked out shit that those guys go through, depending on the war and the situation.

This guy was going bonkers traveling with his stationed company, and was considered just as much a part of them, and I think he was even indulging into the drugs, wondering if he was going to be killed the next day or not. He really had it portrayed as being the same thing as fighting in action, only you were given a notepad instead of a gun, and when the firing starts you'd best get your ass down, or you're dead too.

[tc1]

Yes but there is a big difference between going in harms way with the troops like journalists did in Vietnam and World War 2 and reporting on the war while sitting in a hotel lounge and drinking Wild Turkey triples like O'Reilly did.

[RicochetShaw]

Bill O'Reilly and Conan O'Brien are the two most entertaing people on television today, in my opinion. It seems he's unpopular here, but I love the guy. He's a very intelligent dude.


And, by the way: he doesn't try to pass himself off as some blue-collar worker, he clearly states often that he is a very wealthy man.

[tc1]

Bill O'Reilly is plenty entertaining no disagreement but he's still a ignoramous - and thats coming from a Republican that used to like him

[Beeblebrox]

I actually liked O'Reilly okay. He's a blowhard, an asshole, etc, and I didn't agree with him on most everything, but unlike that douche bag Sean Hannity, he did seem to have actual convictions and principles.

That is, up until the book tour incident with Al Franken and the idiotic lawsuit that followed over Al's book. O'Reilly was basically humiliated by Franken, then bullied Fox News into suing him (so much for tort reform). Naturally, FNC was laughed out of court.

Since then, I've regarded O'Reilly as a thin-skinned whiney baby masquerading as a tough-talking populist.

[tc1]

Same here I liked him when he started especially after 9-11 but then he started to take himself too seriously and becoming a whore for George Bush so he got put into the Rush Lardball category. At there is still Dennis Miller and P.J. O'Rourke.

[Beeblebrox]

Originally posted by tc1
At there is still Dennis Miller and P.J. O'Rourke. [/B]

Speaking of taking himself too seriously. Didn't Dennis Miller used to be funny?

Still like PJ O'Rourke though.

[tc1]

Hes improved a little since leaving Monday Night Football

[Beeblebrox]

I tried watching his new show. And it's depressing. He looks miserable.

Now The Daily Show. John Stewart (and his writers) is a fucking genius.

[Raoul Duke]

Originally posted by RicochetShaw
Bill O'Reilly and Conan O'Brien are the two most entertaing people on television today, in my opinion. It seems he's unpopular here, but I love the guy. He's a very intelligent dude.


And, by the way: he doesn't try to pass himself off as some blue-collar worker, he clearly states often that he is a very wealthy man.


O'Reilly doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Conan!

I saw an interview one time he was doing with a son of one of the people that had died in the WTC. The son disagreed with O'Reilly and said how the attacks could have been prevented and O'Reilly went completley insane! I mean it, he lost his ever loving mind! He started yelling how his father would be ashamed of him and screamed at him to shut up.

He's a very unprofessional talk show host. He never hears his guests out and always tries to make them out to be idiots.

That, and he seems to hate Canada...So he can eff himself for all I care.

[cstroman]

Nice to see all you People who live or have visited Africa more times than him comment. :rolleyes:

Also, you posted what he said, but didn't comment on how he is wrong or right or how his generalization of the African continent is wrong in the same way that if he said it about the North or South American continent and Islamic Theocracies, he'd be wrong.

I think maybe I understand what he actually said more than the rest of you and that is, that there is no successful country in Africa that has incorporated western values into it's system. From S. Africa to Egypt and from Ethiopia to the Horn.

Name some Lasting successful Western Style Democracies.

Otherwise, you have no basis for your rants.

[echo_bravo]

Ditto cstroman, I am a bit puzzled on why O"Reilly's comments are wrong?

I like to watch The Factor from time to time whenever I get the chance. They seem to have some interesting discussions on there.

I do like Bill O'Reilly. I find his show to be entertaining. However, I wouldnt want him to be my Dad or anything...that would suck!

[tc1]

As I said before I used to like him but the problem is that he decided to forgo being a objective and instead became a pimp for the Republican party and the war in Iraq now. Personally I'm hoping that he gets hooked on vicodin or oxycontin like Rush did and we never have to hear from him again.

[Beeblebrox]

Originally posted by tc1
Personally I'm hoping that he gets hooked on vicodin or oxycontin like Rush did and we never have to hear from him again.

I would never wish that one anyone. But in any case, it didn't stop Rush.

[cstroman]

Name one person in the Media (or one news organization) that isn't biased?

They all are. They all have agendas whether hidden or not, whether obvious or subliminal, and those agendas are pushed by what they report and how.

There's alot of GOOD things happening in Iraq, but you won't hear about it in the liberal media.

That's why you need a balance.

I like O'Reiley because he's obvious in his stances. He claims to be a conservative.

Not like the liberals who are leftists but claim to be "mainstream".

[tc1]

Didn't stop Rush. Really. He's more irrelevant now than he ever was. Even his wife ditched him.
O'Reilly was good when he attacked both sides of the political spectrum. Then he decided to sell out and be Bush's little lap dog.
Good things in Iraq. You mean like the torture of Iraqi prisoners. Or the maybe the greedy civilian contractors/morons of the week that has to get themselves captured over there. Or maybe its the daily car bombs. Face it that place is a unwinnable mess and no amount of whining about liberal bias is every going to change that.

[cstroman]

You mean the contractors and military building schools? Wait you don't know about that because the media didn't tell you about it.

Didn't stop Rush. Really. He's more irrelevant now than he ever was. Even his wife ditched him.

That means all liberals are irrelevant if his using drugs and getting divorced is a rule to judge by.

The torture of the Iraqi Prisoners was horrible. The little girls who are now able to go to school to learn to read something OTHER than the quran is a GOOD thing. The soldiers going after the people killing their own Iraqi countrymen is a GOOD thing.

I'll take the word of people working over there NOW against your blind acceptance of people who have never been to Iraq, but you love.

But like I said, you see the world through liberal colored glasses.

I don't expect you to open your eyes anytime soon and see the world in color.

[JohnTheHenchman]

Bill O'Reilly gets attacked by both liberals and conservatives by either being too conservative or too liberal. The truth is, he's an independent as he has stated many times. If people really think he's so humorless, I'd suggest listening to the Radio Factor, I think he's pretty funny.

I like him because he doesn't stand behind everything Bush does, like Limbaugh or Hannity does. The man wasn't born into money, he made it for himself...so good on him that he's rich...anyone that works for it, deserves it.

Frankly, he's one of the few political commentators I can stomach at all, he's not afraid to call anyone on their bullshit. Franken is lame, Limbaugh is lame. Although O'Reilly leans to the right more than the left, he is very much more of a moderate than anything else, and I can appreciate that someone closer to the center has a voice.

[cstroman]

I think they are all "entertainment" liberal or conservative for those of us smart enough to have our own thoughts and really only piss off those people who are too :rolleyes: to be able to think for themselves.

[Beeblebrox]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
The man wasn't born into money, he made it for himself...

Well, according to him. But he was actually raised in Westbury, NY, an affluent suburb, went to a private school, and a private college.

So not "rich" maybe, but he didn't exactly struggle.

[BakeTheMooCow]

Originally posted by cstroman
I think maybe I understand what he actually said more than the rest of you and that is, that there is no successful country in Africa that has incorporated western values into it's system. From S. Africa to Egypt and from Ethiopia to the Horn.
Why should there be incorporation of 'Western values' into African countries? Most African nations are federal republics, just like the United States, and have strong traditions that have lasted for centuries, just like the United States. Bill O'Reilly seems to say you can't bring Western reasoning into African culture like its a bad thing. Let people be. Why is there a need for the U.S. to butt into other nations and spread their 'Western values' (which I'm sure they all envy so highly)?

O'Reilly is not an independent. He's a right-wing nut and has been called on his lies countless times, most notably by Franken in his book, but also by Jon Stewart on his show. Who else would call the ACLU a "terrorist organization" but a hardcore conservative douchebag like him?

[SLAW]

Bill O'reiley is not a very good guy. There, I said it. Although he does have a sense of humor and he does laugh, but only when it's at someone's expense. He is a horrible host, yelling at all his guests and treating them like idiots because they have a different point of view (kind of like one or two people at JoBlo). O'reiley brings in people who don't exactly debate for a living and gets to scream at them. He says that anyone who doesn't come on his show are cowards, yet he refuses to allow quite a few people on himself (and those who don't go on his show probably just don't feel like getting screamed at and if they got in a good point or two, theyll get cut off anyway). He seems to think that his views represent most of Americans. Safe to say that is just not true. He is for absolute capitalism, yet is against rappers making money, thinking that somehow principles and standards applies to a free economy. He calls for boycotts a good percentage of the time to companies that use rappers to endorse their products or to places like France for not thinking the war in Iraq was a good move. The man is a self-absorbed blowhard who manages to make me laugh for a few minutes, then I need to turn the dial or switch the channel. I don't mind his point of views, but he's far too judgmental and far too contradictory about everything for me to take too seriously most of the time.

[JohnTheHenchman]

Originally posted by BakeTheMooCow
Why should there be incorporation of 'Western values' into African countries? Most African nations are federal republics, just like the United States, and have strong traditions that have lasted for centuries, just like the United States. Bill O'Reilly seems to say you can't bring Western reasoning into African culture like its a bad thing. Let people be. Why is there a need for the U.S. to butt into other nations and spread their 'Western values' (which I'm sure they all envy so highly)?

O'Reilly is not an independent. He's a right-wing nut and has been called on his lies countless times, most notably by Franken in his book, but also by Jon Stewart on his show. Who else would call the ACLU a "terrorist organization" but a hardcore conservative douchebag like him?

Why would he always say he's an independent if he wasn't? And why does being conservative make him a douchebag, I suppose I would be a douchebag too.

As for the ACLU, please explain to me whose civil liberties they fought for by trying to get a tiny cross removed from the seal of Los Angeles, while the godess Pomona stays on it, and they don't try to change the name of Los Angeles, considering Angels are a religious thing. While they're not a terrorist organization, they certainly are a bunch of shitheads.

[BakeTheMooCow]

There are conservatives, and there are conservative douchebags. He fits into the latter category. I didn't call all conservatives douchebags.

He says he is independent because he's working on a network that calls itself "fair and balanced". Watching a few minutes of his show clearly proves he leans very far to the right.

And the ACLU has done plenty for gay rights, racial equality and privacy among other things. You only highlighted their very minor insignificant achievements, just like Bill O'Reilly always manages to do. Being a member, I take offense to you calling the ACLU a 'bunch of shitheads'.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
As for the ACLU, please explain to me whose civil liberties they fought for by trying to get a tiny cross removed from the seal of Los Angeles, while the godess Pomona stays on it, and they don't try to change the name of Los Angeles, considering Angels are a religious thing. While they're not a terrorist organization, they certainly are a bunch of shitheads.

Both of those can be true. The ACLU is a farce, but one that does seem to use "terrorist tactics" to further their agenda.

And Bill O'Reilly is a douchebag.

[adamjohnson]

After watching him a few times, you really cant stand to watch any other news program, becuse you know theyre all a bunch of lying dickheads.

[Tweek]

Originally posted by cstroman
Nice to see all you People who live or have visited Africa more times than him comment. :rolleyes:






I'm African.

What I found wrong about his comment was that he's only been there three times and he came to the conclusion that every country is under one cultural system.

That's not true.

There are Westernized places up the ying yang, btw.



Here's another quote from him on Africa. This one is in regards to the AIDS epidemic:
" Even more disgraceful is the amount of money we send overseas in the form of humanitarian aid. Did you know that the AIDS epidemic in Africa is America's fault? If we would only send more money and drugs to those countries -- thousands of lives would be saved. How many times have you heard that?

Does anyone in his right mind believe that the $9 billion in humanitarian aid we'll send overseas next year will get to the sick people? Is there one country in Africa that can be trusted to use the money and drugs responsibly? Can you name one?"


How dare he.

How fucking dare he.


oh and this quote from a transcript of one of his stellar shows.

"O'REILLY: All right. With us now is John Shelby Spong. So I'm basically saying that African-Americans owe loyalty. And this is racist?"


NO! It's not racist to say that the people who your ancestors (probably) enslaved hundreds of years ago owe you loyalty! I think there's a difference between respect and loyalty. Blacks respect whites, whites respect blacks.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[cstroman]

I'm African.
What I found wrong about his comment was that he's only been there three times and he came to the conclusion that every country is under one cultural system.


You gleaned that from:

I've been to Africa three times. All right? You can't bring Western reasoning into the culture. The same way you can't bring it into fundamental Islam

So you ASSUME he's talking about the whole african continent and not the place or places he visited?

And also


That's not true.

There are Westernized places up the ying yang, btw.


Please provide proof of successful "Western Reasoning" which has been instituted successfully in Africa. We're talking about "western reasoning" (ideologies) not "we have a T.V. so we're Western". How about the most DIRECTLY WESTERN influenced countries over there: LIBERIA and SOUTH AFRICA and please show me HOW they are "successful" just to start.

I tend to start thinking "How dare YOU, HOW DARE YOU" since you have yet to provide any back up for your O'Reiley bashing.

How dare he.

He asked a question, you haven't answered, but I'm willing to give you an opportunity to answer the question:

"Does anyone in his right mind believe that the $9 billion in humanitarian aid we'll send overseas next year will get to the sick people? Is there one country in Africa that can be trusted to use the money and drugs responsibly? Can you name one?"

Please. Tell me what SECULAR GOVERNMENT we can trust over there.

O'REILLY: All right. With us now is John Shelby Spong. So I'm basically saying that African-Americans owe loyalty. And this is racist?

Owe loyalty to whom? What is he talking about? Is he as racist as a black person who says "white boy"? Is that what you are saying? You have a quote taken out of context that I have NO idea what he is referring to, and making blanket statements about him.

Oh and if you would care to provide some back up for your statements and perhaps some quotes in context so I understand what he is referring to.....

Otherwise your just another hateful ranter....and sorry, don't want none of that hate here....I only digest tolerance.

Another question. Malcom X and Luis Farrahkan. Racists?

[cstroman]

Also, you claim to be AFRICAN.

So you were BORN in Africa correct?

How long did you live there?

Have you been back recently?

Being born a certain color that originated somewhere else doesn't make them FROM there.

I may have european ancestors, so does that make me a EUROPEAN? What if my ancestors were English or French or German? Does that make me ENGLISH, FRENCH or GERMAN?

Nope.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by cstroman
Otherwise your just another hateful ranter....and sorry, don't want none of that hate here....I only digest tolerance.

Pot, meet kettle.

Another question. Malcom X and Luis Farrahkan. Racists?

Yes, and yes.

[cstroman]

BTW I'm still waiting on your PM responding to where Bush actually said "God told him to invade Iraq" and "We're doing God's work in invading Iraq".

Please provide the sources for your opinion.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by cstroman
BTW I'm still waiting on your PM responding to where Bush actually said "God told him to invade Iraq" and "We're doing God's work in invading Iraq".

Please provide the sources for your opinion.

My ears are my source.

And I chose not to respond to the PM's due to the lack of respect shown for differing opinions, and outright calling me ignorant.

[cstroman]

And I chose not to respond to the PM's due to the lack of respect shown for differing opinions,

You're confusing "respect" and "acceptance". Respect and tolerance means I don't just deny receipt of your PM's. I respond back. Acceptance is what you are seeking, which for lies will never come.

My ears are my source.

Then get your hearing checked or get a shrink, because you're hearing things that were never said.

Just because you made it up, doesn't make it true. Just because you believe it, doesn't make it true.

And the FACT that you believe it, makes it less credible. In fact every claim you make will automatically go in the "yeah right" bin because you don't back up your blanket statements which are obviously false.

I just think you're trolling.

[Tweek]

Conceived in Sudan, Born in Eritrea.
My parents and I came to the US as refugees.
Haven't been back since as our country is in the midst of conflict.




So you ASSUME he's talking about the whole african continent and not the place or places he visited?


When he says "THE CULTURE" I took that to mean the entire continent.
I've been to Africa three times. All right? You can't bring Western reasoning into the culture.
He said nothing of the specific countries.


And...
If the people donating the money don't trust the nations they're giving them to, they can make sure the money and medicines are being used by BEING THERE... Or having people and doctors there... Get the stuff directly to the people.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by cstroman
I just think you're trolling.

I'm trolling, with almost 9 thousand posts, and two years here.

Right.

[SLAW]

Cstoman, you are continuously disrespectful of the members here. Instead of stating your opinions, you are attacking members that may disagree with you. You are treating Greb and Tweek like they're idiots because of their point of views. It is not tolerated here and it's just the wrong way to go in general.

[cstroman]

I'm trolling, with almost 9 thousand posts, and two years here.

Sorry, I was looking for an "out" for you to not have to back up your statements (which you claim you "choose" not to do instead of admit you "can't do")

Listen, you have no credibility what so ever in any of your claims, and you have provided nothing to back up anything you claim or any of your beliefs.

Get back to me when you start posting more than your opinion.

[cstroman]

Tweek thanks for responding to my questions.

Also when did you leave Africa and I'm not sure you answered his question to name countries/governments in Africa we can trust handing Billions of dollars over to in aid. (that was his original question)

Thanks.

[Beeblebrox]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
[B]Why would he always say he's an independent if he wasn't?

Because he's a liar.

While they're not a terrorist organization, they certainly are a bunch of shitheads.

The ACLU is for absolute protection of constitutional civil liberties. I understand why that makes them shitheads to most conservatives, but that's their one and only goal.

[Beeblebrox]

Originally posted by SLAW
[B]Cstoman, you are continuously disrespectful of the members here.

Ha. Cstroman is on my ignore list (for, you guessed it, having no idea what he's talking about, in the Filmmaking forum), so I'm only catching half the conversations. But it sounds like a doozy.

[kungfuchris]

liberal,conservative, independent, it does not matter what he calls himself. he is a low level apologist for capital.

[notchreturns]

You think O'Reilly is bad? Ever hear of Ann Coulter? There is a woman who should be transported to a deserted island and never heard from again.

[JohnTheHenchman]

Originally posted by Beeblebrox
Because he's a liar.



The ACLU is for absolute protection of constitutional civil liberties. I understand why that makes them shitheads to most conservatives, but that's their one and only goal.

Could you prove that he's lying about being an independent? If he sometimes says he's republican and sometimes says he's independent, then I'd totally agree with you, but in all the times I've heard him talk, he's only said independent.

Just because you don't like him, it doesn't mean he is a liar. Then again, just because I like him, it doesn't mean he's a liar, but please...In a world of Franken's and Limbaugh's the only kind of guy I can stomach is Mr. O'Reilly.

Also, I really can't stand the ACLU. Tell me who's civil liberties were being violated by the tiny cross on the seal of Los Angeles as a historical reminder of the person who founded it.

[Tweek]

Originally posted by notchreturns
You think O'Reilly is bad? Ever hear of Ann Coulter? There is a woman who should be transported to a deserted island and never heard from again.
I've heard of her.


Never read anything by her, but I've heard of her.

[JohnTheHenchman]

I can't stand her.

Although, for some reason I am attracted to conservative female political commentator type people.

Don't ask why.

:(

[SLAW]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
Could you prove that he's lying about being an independent? If he sometimes says he's republican and sometimes says he's independent, then I'd totally agree with you, but in all the times I've heard him talk, he's only said independent.

He told everyone when he joined Fox News that he was a registered independent, it was later found that he was a registered Republican. He was supposed to be Fox's "middle of the road" analyst, but his obvious right-wing views have been made apparent (by him), yet to his credit he's had good ratings.

That's another funny thing. He posts polls on his web site and the results always turn out in his favor. He then says, "the people have spoken." I hate to break it to him, but not all the people watch his show and the great majority of those who do agree with him. And then there's of course the people who actually took the time to vote.

[JohnTheHenchman]

I'm not going to demand if it's true or not, I'll take your word for it. I do however think that he is closer to being a moderate than a full blown conservative. If he was someone of the same mold as Limbaugh, I wouldn't be able to listen to him at all.

[SLAW]

Awww, that's so sweet that you trust me. :) If I were a gay man, oooh, you would get it! ;) O'reiley has been coming around on Iraq and I don't think he's as bad as Limbaugh, but I do find him unbearable when it comes to social issues mostly.

[JohnTheHenchman]

He actually thinks people should be free to smoke pot in their homes and stuff, but then says once they step out in public it should atleast be a heavy fine.

I dunno, he doesn't just use conservative talking points so I do atleast respect that.

[SLAW]

Hmmmm...doesn't sound like him, but that doesn't his politics are overwhelmingly right-wing (not that there's anything wrong with that).;)

[SLAW]

Oh, and I don't think most people are truely always right-wing or left-wing on every issue. Even this guyMichael Savage (http://www.michaelsavage.com) is for environmental and animal rights.

[Raymond Babbit]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
Also, I really can't stand the ACLU. Tell me who's civil liberties were being violated by the tiny cross on the seal of Los Angeles as a historical reminder of the person who founded it.

True, that may not have reallly served a purpose. But you can't always judge an organization by one or two things. While I admit they go to extremes at times, I respect the ACLU for what they have done for rights, especially students' rights. For example in Dearborn, in my homestate of Michigan, there was a kid who was suspended from school for wearing a shirt that said "Bush: International Terrorist". Now, if this created some kind of disturbance, I could understand that. But there were no incidents at school all day, then the assistant principal saw it and suspended him. So the reason was basically because of unpopular politics. The ACLU successfully sued the school. If you look on their website, there are many other cases like this. So, believe it or not, the ACLU HAS done some good things.


And, cstroman, let me just say that I am VERY offended at your portrayal of liberals as a bunch of drug-using divorcees and idiots who have no idea what they're talking about in your posts. How dare you make broad generalizations like that without knowing us. I am a liberal, so under what you said, I must be a drug user (never tried the shit, but hang out with some people who do, and I have no problem with it) and divorced (not even old enough to be married yet). But you know what? You don't know me, or any of the other liberals on this board. I'd bet you don't know that many liberals in general, because you probably don't associate yourself with them. So what right do you have to judge us? I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet.

Oh, and to keep this post on topic, O'Reilly's a right-wing asshole!

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by Raymond Babbit

And, cstroman, let me just say that I am VERY offended at your portrayal of liberals as a bunch of drug-using divorcees and idiots who have no idea what they're talking about in your posts. How dare you make broad generalizations like that without knowing us. I am a liberal, so under what you said, I must be a drug user (never tried the shit, but hang out with some people who do, and I have no problem with it) and divorced (not even old enough to be married yet). But you know what? You don't know me, or any of the other liberals on this board. I'd bet you don't know that many liberals in general, because you probably don't associate yourself with them. So what right do you have to judge us? I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet.

Oh, and to keep this post on topic, O'Reilly's a right-wing asshole!

Sadly, cstro is not allowed to post in the politics forum.;)

[Raymond Babbit]

Originally posted by Grebdron
Sadly, cstro is not allowed to post in the politics forum.;)

Really? All right! I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the moderators at Joblo for.....

Wait, I mean, that's too bad. I'll miss his informative opinions.:D

[jeo4]

This topic is getting ugly.

1. I dislike Bill O' Reilly because he doesn't ever think he's wrong. He completely waffled on the issue of WMD's on his show after swearing up and down that Bush was right and he would admit it if he was wrong. He also lies about so many other things, he gets caught routinely. He can't keep his story straight as to whether or not he's a conservative or an independent. He not only guns down people on the air, but he never gives them an opportunity to present their side of the story in a fair manner. Not that this dipshit should be confused with any objective journalist. And he gets paid obscene amounts to sit there and be rude and hostile on TV. And yes, he did claim to be a representative of the working class at one point, in spite of private education and affluent parents.

2. While I hate the way O'Reilly behaves, I think even less of Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore. These two have no business embarrassing conservatives liberals with their association. I like Al Franken because he tends to be more honest and he seems to take his politics a little less seriously. He keeps a sense of humor and decorum in discussions, even if he completely disagrees on the topic.

3. In response to Beeble's statement "The ACLU is for absolute protection of constitutional civil liberties. I understand why that makes them shitheads to most conservatives, but that's their one and only goal." : The ACLU may have a mission to protect the rights of all, but they definitely have a problem with the incorporation of anything religious in public. I think they mean well, I just don't think that they are on point all of the time. While my views tend to lean conservative, I don't consider them shitheads. I am, however, very concerned that some religious freedoms are going to be infringed upon as a result of specific cases. I don't want to drive this point too hard, as it would get off topic and I don't want to discount the good that they do. But I'm increasingly concerned that there are some rights that may be ignored for others.

[Thrizzle]

I watch Bill O'Reilly every now and then purely for the comedy. He is pretty much wrong about anything and everything.