I spit on your Grave

[MadMonkey12]

Hey guys, i was just wondering if ne of u have seen this revenge flick. i was reading arrows review and he gave it a 3 1/2. It was just enough to convince me until i read a bunch more reviews saying the movie sucks. Is it worth seeking out? Let me kno.

[Talking Text]

In my books this is no revenge flick, it's feminist tripe. It displays men as horrible bastards and women as great, perfect and more intelligent humans. I refuse to see it..

But i'm not stopping anyone else, so go ahead. Just thought i'd tell ya what i think of it.

[BloodMan]

Its perdy good. Not bad at all really. The rape scene/her alone in the bush stuff lasts for like 27 minutes or something. Then all the revenge stuff kicks in.
Get the millenium edition DVD... Joe Bob Brigg's commentary just brings everything up a notch. :)

[jagged halo]

Originally posted by Talking Text
In my books this is no revenge flick, it's feminist tripe. It displays men as horrible bastards and women as great, perfect and more intelligent humans. I refuse to see it..

But i'm not stopping anyone else, so go ahead. Just thought i'd tell ya what i think of it.

I have to disagree with you there, the film shows a small minority of men to be horrible bastards, if women come to the conclusion that all men behave in this manner then I would have to question their intellect. I Spit is certainly not a feminist movie by any stretch of the imagination. Her method of revenge hardly displays women as perfect intelligent human beings.

[Talking Text]

Shut up, you disagree with everything i say. I stick to what i said, it's a feminist movie.

-In a bit..:)

[Romero&Juliet]

Its very mucha feminist flick in my opinion.. I enjoyed it a whoooooole lot either way and I say fucking GO FOR IT!

[KillerKlown]

It's pretty good - worth watching for the bath scene alone. "God bless your hands..." :eek:

[jagged halo]

Originally posted by Talking Text
Shut up, you disagree with everything i say. I stick to what i said, it's a feminist movie.

-In a bit..:)

That's fine having your own opinion, equaly so is the right for me to form my own opinion and judgement of said movie. I can't recall ever asking you to shut up whenever you disagreed with my point of view.

ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz

[Talking Text]

It's not that mate, it's just i feel you disagreed with me to give me some stick. You didn't just have your own opinion, you took apart mine. Don't be sensitive, shut up is hardly something to get offended by.

The reason i don't like this feminist flick is because i hate feminists. I don't know America's situation with them, but British t.v is very "Men are stupid, women are clever" If it was the other way around women would be screaming, so why can't i stand up for the men? This is a subject in which i hold some very strong opinions on, but if you like it, good for you. I won't judge someone on what horror film they may or may not like, not like some others..

[jagged halo]

Originally posted by Talking Text
It's not that mate, it's just i feel you disagreed with me to give me some stick. You didn't just have your own opinion, you took apart mine. Don't be sensitive, shut up is hardly something to get offended by.

The reason i don't like this feminist flick is because i hate feminists. I don't know America's situation with them, but British t.v is very "Men are stupid, women are clever" If it was the other way around women would be screaming, so why can't i stand up for the men? This is a subject in which i hold some very strong opinions on, but if you like it, good for you. I won't judge someone on what horror film they may or may not like, not like some others..

Not really my problem if you interpret my posts incorrectly, I gave you my opinion which wasn't designed to give you 'some stick'. And I hardly took your opinion apart, I disagreed with it nothing else. And I'm not at all offended by your remarks, I've read a lot worse!.

For the record I don't rate I Spit very highly at all actualy, it certainly isn't a great movie;)

[ParileseMonster]

I liked this movie and I own a widescreen vhs copy but I do want to hear Joe Bob's commentary but I do not want to spend 25 bucks for a dvd in order to hear it and there is no place to rent it here damn it! The men in this movie are fucking slobs and they do something fucking stupid and instead of the chick keeping quiet about it and suffering in silence her whole life she decides to even the score on those particular fuck heads in society. I do not think it is a feminist flick. Is it feminist that a woman stands up for herself? Give me a damn break, would you rather a chick in that situation submit and stay broken after a violation to her being? There are enough women in this world who get abused and live with it and say not a fucking thing about it and I have no fucking respect for them if they choose to live that way.

[Jim H]

I don't know America's situation with them, but British t.v is very "Men are stupid, women are clever"

That's exactly what American TV is like. Sitcoms especially. I've been getting sick of it for years. I know the Simpsons and Family Guy are very popular over there, if you've seen either of them they're exaggerations of the normal sitcom husband/wife - usually a fat/ugly/boorish/stupid husband and a beautiful/insightful/caring wife. PC bullshit. The funny thing is that really isn't what feminism is supposed to be about, at least not what it was about originally - it was originally supposed to be striving for equality, not superiority.

[Talking Text]

People are getting me wrong, so don't say i'm interpreting other's posts incorectlly. Jagged, i said i felt you were just doing it to give me some stick. Why? you may ask? well because this is not the only thread this has happened in. That's all.

And PM, i hate rapists, whether women or men. I thought this was a feminist flick because..

1) It's also called day of the woman!

:rolleyes:

2) The way the men are portrayed in this film is terrible. They could of at least added a good guy. This film will leave people hating men, not everyone, but a lot of people.

3) The woman's revenge is seen as a brave, good thing. Not cold blooded murder. Now don't get me wrong, i wanted those men to die....but why? because the way it was made was to make you want the men to die.

[Talking Text]

Originally posted by Jim H
That's exactly what American TV is like. Sitcoms especially. I've been getting sick of it for years. I know the Simpsons and Family Guy are very popular over there, if you've seen either of them they're exaggerations of the normal sitcom husband/wife - usually a fat/ugly/boorish/stupid husband and a beautiful/insightful/caring wife. PC bullshit. The funny thing is that really isn't what feminism is supposed to be about, at least not what it was about originally - it was originally supposed to be striving for equality, not superiority.

Amen, you know your stuff.

[Cronos]

i liked it, it was a lot better than i expected, if your interested i say go for it

as for it being a feminist film, i see it as just a revenge flick like any other revenge flick

[LazyFly]

MadMonkey12, I was in exactly the same predicament before picking this movie up a few years back. I was told how violent and disturbing the movie was… In the end I paid 9 pound for the DVD and it was turd! Maybe I’m just a little messed up, but the only thing I found slightly shocking about this movie, was the amount of pubic hair the lady had! My copy now recedes in my ex-girlfriends place, which is probably for the best.

[ParileseMonster]

Ah that is the 70's for you. All chicks had jungle bushes in the 70's. They trimmed in the 80's and waxed in the 90's and now they just laser the shit off so that it is gone forever.:D

[KillerKlown]

LOL, she did have a bit of an untamed minge now that I think of it.

[C-Desecration-]

I'm not sure about the whole jagged/text thing, but I've seen schmoes routinely disagree over and over again on different threads, and they're not necessarily 'attacking' one or the other, it's just a coincidence because they don't tend to disagree. It's almost expected that me and space disagree on movies (see Drive, Thesis, etc.), but none of us are 'after' each other. Far from it.

Anyways, on that family guy note, does anyone remember how they made Lois a little more . . . unstable, in the later episodes? I thought that was annoying.
So check this out--I would find a fat, sloppy girl drooling everywhere disgusting (in cartoons). I would - maybe - find a fat, sloppy guy drooling everywhere funny. The oddity here is that I think what happens in Simpsons and whatnot is actually the OPPOSITE of feminism, because (get this) men are disgusted by disgusting women. Men find disgusting men funny. And there you go.

[Cyclonus]

Haven't seen it--most video stores won't carry it, and I really don't want to buy a copy of it.

I do have a question though: why have women's bushes grown trimmer over the last 20-30 years? (Anyone remember Carrie?)

[sarah1980]

My reaction to the movie was the same as Arrow's reaction to Cannibal Holocost which is basically like This is what everyone is talking about????I guess I had high expectations before watching the film that I was totally letdown.But if you wanna see it go ahead.You'll either love it or hate it.

[drdash]

this is a classic of the 70's drive-in period. it's in the same vein as texas chainsaw masacre, the hills have eyes and last house on the left. if you like those films you'll enjoy this film.

ciao
drdash

[the dead one]

I heard that John Wayne bobbits Ex is trying to obtain the rights of the original
"I spit on your grave" to do a re-make...:p

[Jim H]

Originally posted by Cyclonus
Haven't seen it--most video stores won't carry it, and I really don't want to buy a copy of it.

I do have a question though: why have women's bushes grown trimmer over the last 20-30 years? (Anyone remember Carrie?)

Because they wax/shave them now and they didn't use to?

[killuminati003]

i geuss bushes just went out of style....i mean i have these vintage 1960/1970s playboys (collectors items now dont you know) and those chicks were very hairy...and now...you wont hardly ever find a hairy chick....in playboy....


but anyways, back to I Spit On Your Grave.....this movie is actualy on my "to watch" list.....and i dont think that the Family Guy is femenistic ......i think that it plays on steryotypes, and i toatly disagree with steryotypes UNLESS they are used in a comical way, such as in the Family Guy

[KillerKlown]

Originally posted by Cyclonus
(Anyone remember Carrie?)


Fondly. :p

[jagged halo]

Originally posted by C-Desecration-
I'm not sure about the whole jagged/text thing, but I've seen schmoes routinely disagree over and over again on different threads, and they're not necessarily 'attacking' one or the other, it's just a coincidence because they don't tend to disagree. It's almost expected that me and space disagree on movies (see Drive, Thesis, etc.), but none of us are 'after' each other. Far from it.


The whole Jagged/Talking Text thing is simple; I disagreed with him on a couple of issues. I didn't attack him either. Difference of opinion doesn't always amount to personal attack. I've absolutely nothing against Talking Text (as long as you're not driving:D ) and I'm sure we'll meet again, don't know when, don't know where:D

[!MorganOnyx!]

So you UK geezers (JAGGED HALO, TALKING TEXT etc).

Where exactly are y'all from?

On the I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE subject, I don't care enough for the film to talk about the message it's putting across. I merely say something like "It's shite without the gore" and "I want to see the UNCUT version". But everyone did actually make some interesting dicussions. It DOES make me wonder what the directors intentions were! :rolleyes:

[jagged halo]

If I told you where I lived, I'd have to kill you;)

[Nekroman]

I think I heard somewhere that some critic, possibly Roger Ebert remarked that this movie "makes men want to rape women". Uh, did this guy even WATCH the second half of the movie? Damn, what she did to Johnny ALONE is enough to make me keep my hands to myself!

[!MorganOnyx!]

JAGGED HALO -

Pssh sounds like a fair deal. Besides I was only gonna hunt you down, stalk you, watch you alone in your house and then call you and ask questions about the HALLOWEEN franchise. Correct answers mean you survive, incorrect answers mean imminent DEATH!!!!

Oh well if I can't do that this weekend then I'll have to go to plan B - knit a new jumper. :rolleyes:

[Talking Text]

Haha, morganonyx, look at my location that should tell what city i'm from.

Jagged, i don't care about "personal attacks", i just don't want to get into an arguement on every thread i'm on.

[jagged halo]

Originally posted by !MorganOnyx!
JAGGED HALO -

Pssh sounds like a fair deal. Besides I was only gonna hunt you down, stalk you, watch you alone in your house and then call you and ask questions about the HALLOWEEN franchise. Correct answers mean you survive, incorrect answers mean imminent DEATH!!!!

Oh well if I can't do that this weekend then I'll have to go to plan B - knit a new jumper. :rolleyes:

Why is it you always reference films I don't particularly like?, I could Scream sometimes!!:D

[!MorganOnyx!]

Originally posted by Jagged Halo

Why is it you always reference films I don't particularly like?, I could Scream sometimes!

1. Because I'm trying to FORCE you to say something POSITIVE about films you don't like. I consider it a mission I'd like to achieve. :p
2. Do you honestly think a stalker like me would be a nice guy and talk about your FAVOURITE films whilst holding you hostage?!! NO!!! I'm a nasty piece of work - I put my victims thorugh hell!! I know how much you despise those bloody films-It makes it more fun! LOL

Put up a list of your TOP 10 FAVE HORRORS and I'll talk to you about them instead. Deal? :D

[jagged halo]

I'll think about it:D

[!MorganOnyx!]

You don't make it easier for yourself do you? Bit of a rebel are we?
LOL Well anyway, the more I think about it the more I would like to see your top 10. I doubt I'd hate any of your choices, but then again you probably wouldn't hate any of mine.

Only the original HALLOWEEN is in my top 10.

:p

[jagged halo]

Originally posted by !MorganOnyx!
You don't make it easier for yourself do you? Bit of a rebel are we?


Let me know when things get tough for me and I'll try and make it easy for myself, for now I'm happy to post as easily as I have been doing since I registered:D And no I'm not a rebel I'm just a schmoe who speaks his mind;)

[!MorganOnyx!]

JAGGED HALO -

Geezer, you're doing fine. You remind me of me!!! :p

But you LOOK a lot older though.

OOOOOHHHHHH!!!! :eek:

[jagged halo]

Lol!!, er.........that's not me in my avatar:(

[Thurisaz]

all the guys were idiots because they rape her every 5 minutes then all the sudden she's gonna be nice to 'em? blah!
but that scene is almost as bad as the scene in LAST HOUSE where she bit it off and the scene in Street Trash was just funny where they tossed it around...

[ERIN_LoJ]

Originally posted by Talking Text
People are getting me wrong, so don't say i'm interpreting other's posts incorectlly. Jagged, i said i felt you were just doing it to give me some stick. Why? you may ask? well because this is not the only thread this has happened in. That's all.

And PM, i hate rapists, whether women or men. I thought this was a feminist flick because..

1) It's also called day of the woman!

:rolleyes:

2) The way the men are portrayed in this film is terrible. They could of at least added a good guy. This film will leave people hating men, not everyone, but a lot of people.

3) The woman's revenge is seen as a brave, good thing. Not cold blooded murder. Now don't get me wrong, i wanted those men to die....but why? because the way it was made was to make you want the men to die.

1. The title doesn't automatically condemn it. It was about a woman getting revenge her rapists, so they stuck that title on there.

2. Yes, the rapists are portrayed as terrible. And the film in no way tries to leave the audience hating men, only these men. I dont see how anyone could get that out of this film.

3. The movie wasn't set up to make you want men to die, but the rapists who raped her.

You can only be so sensitive to some movies. I don't see these things in this film. The reason good men werent included is simply because this was a low budget, and mainly plotless film. They didnt have side characters because theyr kept it simple - rape, then revenge, and that's it.

[ERIN_LoJ]

Originally posted by Cyclonus
Haven't seen it--most video stores won't carry it, and I really don't want to buy a copy of it.

I do have a question though: why have women's bushes grown trimmer over the last 20-30 years? (Anyone remember Carrie?)

All video stores I go to carry it. I am shocked ashell blockbuster and movie gallery do. :eek: It goes against a lot of what they say they wont carry. ??

As to your last question....trends :D

[Talking Text]

1. The title doesn't automatically condemn it. It was about a woman getting revenge her rapists, so they stuck that title on there.

Oh c'mon, it's blatant feminism. Like that only happens to women?, men get raped too you know? women beat men too you know? Day of the woman is a feminist title.

2. Yes, the rapists are portrayed as terrible. And the film in no way tries to leave the audience hating men, only these men. I dont see how anyone could get that out of this film.

I said the men are portrayed as terrible, not the rapists. I was saying they could of had a good guy, who wasn't a rapist.

3. The movie wasn't set up to make you want men to die, but the rapists who raped her

The men in this film are rapists, i can't be bothered to explain it to you, but a lot of people will watch this and get strong feelings against men.

I laugh at how you said i'm sensitive to these films. I was dragged into an arguement because i said it was a feminist flick. I'm not "sensitive" to any movies i know of, :rolleyes:

[jagged halo]

With respect you obviously are sensitive to certain movies, Day Of The Woman being of them, it clearly has made an impact with you that being you feel aggrieved at the way in which men were portrayed in this particular set of circumstances. I don't think it is a feminist flick at all but it certainly provokes debate and opinion, this is exactly what the makers would have wanted.

[Shadow Whisper]

Carrie 2: The rage was Femi-nazi crap. I Spit on Your grave is a revenge film just like Sudden Impact was. The only real difference was the method of execution; one used a .38 while the other had to use whatever was at hand.

The only difference between I Spit on Your Grave and most revenge films of that time is that it is useualy the boyfriend / husband that goes after the guys that raped his girlfriend / wife such as in the Death Wish films.

[Talking Text]

I really don't like the word "sensitive", i've seen worse than this...and i can take MUCH worse than this.

But whatever

[John Mullets]

My personal opinion is that this flick is just a spin on revenge flicks. In most 70s and 80s revenge movies, a bloke has his wife/girlfriend raped and murdered, then he goes to get revenge (eg. Death Wish). I Spit on your Grave is just a reversing of this concept.

[miceland1]

Is I Spit on Your Grave any good? I'll first ask and answer some other questions.

Is it a typical horror movie? No.
Is it scary? No.
Is it feminist? Yes, I think so.
Is it lopsided and flat? Yes.
Is the dialog lame? Yeah.
Are the characters believeable? Not really.
Is it campy and rediculous? Uh huh.
Is it funny? At times.
Is it hard to watch? Often yeah.
Is it a morality play? Yes.
Are there boobs? Oh yeah.
Is it misunderstood? Yeah, I think so.

Finally is it any good?
My answer is yes.

[jagged halo]

Acts of murder aren't feminist in the least, if anything the character in I Spit displays revenge, nothing else. She didn't have the right to murder her agressors and after all that's what feminism is all about womens rights and equality, nobody has the right to murder anybody no matter how severe the circumstances. If this were a real life case her actions would be considerd pre-meditated murder.

[ERIN_LoJ]

Originally posted by Talking Text


[B]2. Yes, the rapists are portrayed as terrible. And the film in no way tries to leave the audience hating men, only these men. I dont see how anyone could get that out of this film.

I said the men are portrayed as terrible, not the rapists. I was saying they could of had a good guy, who wasn't a rapist.

3. The movie wasn't set up to make you want men to die, but the rapists who raped her

The men in this film are rapists, i can't be bothered to explain it to you, but a lot of people will watch this and get strong feelings against men.

I laugh at how you said i'm sensitive to these films. I was dragged into an arguement because i said it was a feminist flick. I'm not "sensitive" to any movies i know of, :rolleyes:


The men are portrayed in teh film as terrible because they were portrayed as rapists. I honestly dont see how this movie will make people see men as bad in general :( , I just don't see it

[jagged halo]

I'd like to credit the public with a little more intelligence than simply to assume all men would be regarded in a negative light after viewing I Spit.

[Talking Text]

Read my posts properly. I explain EVERYTHING. Jeeeezus

[Skysaber]

Horrible movie; don't even waste your time.

[ParileseMonster]

Hell, I just want to hear Joe Bob's fucking commentary and none of my video stores carry the DVD and I am not shelling out 25 bucks for it and I am not going to ask John aka Joe Bob for a free copy because that just would go against all the meaning in our friendship!;)