What if Gore was elected in 2000?

[Tom Samborski]

I thought this would make a rather interesting thread: what if Al Gore was elected president in the 2000 U.S Election, and not George.W.Bush?

9/11 still would've happened, Bin Laden was planning the attacks during the Clinton administration, but I think the U.S response would've been rather different. I think it would have been much later, probably in 2002 rather than 2001. The U.S probably would have never attacked Iraq as well.

[Grebdron]

We'd be fighting terrorism, where it exists. Afghanistan.

[Cyclonus]

I'd have to say that at the very, very worst, he wouldn't screwed things up as bad as Bush did. I expect that very few people will disagree with me on this point.

[BorderEevilIII]

Originally posted by Cyclonus
I'd have to say that at the very, very worst, he wouldn't screwed things up as bad as Bush did.


Here Here.....
9/11 still would have happened no matter what I hate to say... :(

[Cyclonus]

Originally posted by BorderEevilIII
Here Here.....
9/11 still would have happened no matter what I hate to say... :(

I don't know about that. One would like to think that Gore would have been vigilant enough to have caught the early warning signals and taken appropiate action. Unlike Bush, who was too busy playing golf with his cronies.

[BubbaStrangelove]

Damn. Welcome to the politics forum, Cy.




Okay, after 9/11, I was all with Bush, and remember siding with Bill Maher who said that Gore would be reacting the same way. Consequently, I ended up ruining a buzz as my friends (who hate Bush) went on the offensive.

Now this was when he was in Pakistan, and early on. Then I heard Iraq, and was like.... But, we didn't catch the guy who started this war! Why should we shift focus to Iraq when this is the first I'd heard of this?

It seems to me that they can't catch Bin Laden, but don't want to look like losers.

Hell, there is lots of reasons for this administration to engage in this war that make waaaayyyyy more sense than a terrorist attack headed by a guy who we can't catch. That would be like executing someone in jail because there's a serial killer on the loose.

And don't give me the shit about us trying to ruin Laden's finances, or backing -- Come on. We have to blow up buildings to stop the transfer of money?? Yeah.

Like I've said all along - If the administration would have handled this war like they handle the war on drugs -- I would feel much safer.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by Cyclonus
I don't know about that. One would like to think that Gore would have been vigilant enough to have caught the early warning signals and taken appropiate action. Unlike Bush, who was too busy playing golf with his cronies.

One would like to think that. Absolutely.

But it ain't a fact. It would have happened anyway.

Unless Al Qaeda were wanting a Republican in the white house.

[Lynn7]

I used to respect Gore. when Clinton picked him as a running mate i though he elevated Clinton's standing. During the lewinsky thing he was mostly quiet but then when pressured to speak after the public was shown to support Clinton- he was hysterical in his speech to support Clinton- way over the top as if trying to court the public favor. Then when the election fiasco happened I was appalled at how weird Gore was getting- only asking for 4 Democratice counties to be recounted instead of the whole state of Florida? His judgement was no longer credible.

I think if Gore had been president he would've been appropraiately remorseful and angry. I know he would not have created the Patriot act or homeland security. (Maybe Homeland security but it would've been much different) He might've gone into Afghanistan but not to Iraq. Sadaam would be in power and plotting against us. The terrorists would be bombing us here instead of sending their forces to Iraq. The economy would never have recovered becasue it was because of the tax cuts that businesses rebounded. In fact he would have raised taxes to pay for the war and that would've sent us into a nose dive. Oh and we would've been trying to please the UN by doing everything they said we should be doing. We would be percieved as weak and ripe for picking.

[BubbaStrangelove]

Originally posted by Lynn7
We would be percieved as weak and ripe for picking.


In other words, more geek than freak.

[Scarface98.9]

We might've captured Bin Laden by now considering that I doubt Gore would've stopped the bombings and searches like Bush did, though Saddam would still be in power. Unfortunately, we'll never know the true answer

[bmain77]

To take this topic another way and ignoring the 9/11 and Iraq stuff for a minute, which I don't think would have been much different under Gore, and look at matters closer to home I wonder how different we would be post Janet Jackson's boob.

I know Tipper was behind the parental warning stickers etc..., but I honestly don't things would have reached the levels they have now. These ridiculous fines being increased, The FCC (headed by C. Powell's little shortie) runnning amok over free speech, and it becoming un-American to speak out against the president all would not have happened under Gore. If Gore was president I could listen to the good ol sex obsessed Howard Stearn again instead of the constantling railing against the FCC and Bush Stern. Janet would have been lambasted for a lame publicity stunt instead of be condemed for single handily taking down all that is holy. I could still see the boobies on statues during Attorny General press briefings. I could go on and on, but I'll stop there.

[SLAW]

I will just say right now that over the last three years i have grown more fond of the Clinton and Gore than I ever did during their administration. In 2000, I didn't think it mattered who won, but now I know I just couldn't of known. :(

[Ultrahumanite]

Oh, brother....

[Ultrahumanite]

Originally posted by bmain77
If Gore was president I could listen to the good ol sex obsessed Howard Stearn again instead of the constantling railing against the FCC and Bush Stern. Janet would have been lambasted for a lame publicity stunt instead of be condemed for single handily taking down all that is holy

:rolleyes:

It is a Democrat on the FCC that is behind the censorship drive, not a Republican... Bush had nothing to do with the mess, and since everybody is blaming the Republicans for it, instead of the Democrats, it'll probably only get worse. After all, to some, criticizing Democrats is probably obscene.

But, for what it's worth, the FCC Commissioner who is pushing the hardest on all of this so-called "indecency" is Michael J. Copps. Copps is the former chief of staff to South Carolina's Senator Ernest Hollings, a Democrat. Hollings has never been known for his defense of first amendment rights for broadcasters. Copps is also Democrat, not a Republican.

*sigh* Not that it'll matter. Go ahead, blame Bush, while the real bad guys just chip away at your freedoms one by one.

I'm going to Margaritaville, 'cause Trigonometry is a bummer. Wake me when it's all over.

[SLAW]

It doesn't matter what political part this guy is apart of, he's still very much an idiot and is pandering to the religous right.

[Ultrahumanite]

See, that's my point. It does matter.

He is pandering, to the religious right, the religious left, the religious center, and to the family with no particular opinion but who don't want to turn on their TV and see Janet Jackson's boob, regardless of how well-formed it may be. These are the people who never think of turning off the TV or changing the channel; they'd rather see somebody put the screws on.

But see, while the screws are being put on, nobody's pointing fingers at the guy who's doing the twisting. Instead of going after the person who has the ability to do the damage, people -- like Stern -- are concentrating their anger on someone who doesn't have anything to do with it.

But what the heck. Why not blame Bush for it? Heck, I walked outside this morning and my trashcan was turned over; I'm pretty sure I heard Marine 1 taking off from my backyard under cover of darkness.

[quoth_the_raven]

You'd all still be complaining about your president, but probably for different reasons ;)

[SLAW]

Originally posted by Ultrahumanite
See, that's my point. It does matter.

He is pandering, to the religious right, the religious left, the religious center, and to the family with no particular opinion but who don't want to turn on their TV and see Janet Jackson's boob, regardless of how well-formed it may be. These are the people who never think of turning off the TV or changing the channel; they'd rather see somebody put the screws on.

But see, while the screws are being put on, nobody's pointing fingers at the guy who's doing the twisting. Instead of going after the person who has the ability to do the damage, people -- like Stern -- are concentrating their anger on someone who doesn't have anything to do with it.

Oh no, this particular crap happens in cylcles (like every seven years or so). Not really the presidents fault, just a number of tight asses. I know boobs are destroying our culture, but no they're not.

[jeo4]

We're getting off topic, here. Gore isn't so bad, but his wife Tipper is a censoring shrew (for those of you that don't remember rockers having to testify before this harpy and her band of "concerned citizens" because of their music). I say Kerry has a better shot than he does. As for Stern, fuck him. He can blame Bush all he wants. But the fact is his routine got stale anyway. He got too comfortable being a shock jock and he never made more of an effort to make his show better. So he got fired. Boo fucking hoo, as the banner says.

[Lynn7]

Originally posted by jeo4
We're getting off topic, here. Gore isn't so bad, but his wife Tipper is a censoring shrew (for those of you that don't remember rockers having to testify before this harpy and her band of "concerned citizens" because of their music). I say Kerry has a better shot than he does. As for Stern, fuck him. He can blame Bush all he wants. But the fact is his routine got stale anyway. He got too comfortable being a shock jock and he never made more of an effort to make his show better. So he got fired. Boo fucking hoo, as the banner says.

I like Tipper and the things she stood for are like what Cosby is taking about today. It's about looking out for what your kids are watching and listening to and she simply wanted labels to be put on CDs to help parents know if the minor kids would be exposed to questionable content.

Stern has definitely gone stale- his schtick has been the same for years and years. a great wasted talent- "Take your shirt off- oh those are nice T*ts!" A true intellect! It's his right to influence the election but over such a stupid reason? If it's so important to him let him go to sattelite radio where he can talk as dirty as he wants to. If what he did wasn't considered "naughty" his rating would plummet. Aren't things more fun when they are forbidden? he should thank the FCC for that.

[SLAW]

Al Gore will forever be the Bill Buckner of politics. :(

[Dixiecup]

It seems that all of the pundits have differing views on what would have happened had Gore got in. Personally, I believe that Bush had an agenda where Iraq was concerned from the get go.

I believe that Gore would have done more homework, sent less troops, and tried to save the American taxpayers some money. Cost of war? Billions. Cost of sending in some snipers? not billions.

[Mentiroso]

Eh, like I have said before, I doubt he would have done any better or any worse than Bush.

Bush has had a rough run but so far gotten through it. I like Bush although he isnt the best leader he does what he thinks is right and that is why we elected him. You cant have a president who has to rely on everyone to do his job for him.

I just wish Ross Perot was running. He could fix this whole problem. He is crazy enough to send a few elite commando units out to take out the enemy. And if any whiny hippies complained about it he would buy their family and drop them in Iraq to teach them a lesson.

Perot in 04!!