Spider-Man 2 ending and other comic related hoo-ha

[SonicDeathMonkey]

Don't read this unless you have seen the movie.


...Spoilers...


I haven't read the comics since I was really young but I remember Mary Jane getting killed by the Hobgoblin. Am I wrong? If so, how did she die? Also, is the ending what happened in the comics or did Sam Raimi tweak it a little? Just some questions I had because I was expecting other things to happen in the movie...such as Dunst dying and what not.

[ilovemovies]

Have never read the comics but if it is true that MJ did die in the comics, Kirsten Dunst has said that she doesn't want to do anymore beyond Spider-Man 3 so many in the next one she dies?

[HHH123007]

I believe MJ is alive and married to Peter in the comics.

You might be thinking of another character, one who's name escapes me at the moment.

[SonicDeathMonkey]

Yeah, I know Gwen Stacey(?) died after a nasty fall off a bridge via the decision Spider-Man had to make in the first movie. I remember he had to choose and by the time he caught her the fall had killed her. That's why I was wondering if Raimi chose to take a big part of the comics like the bridge scene from the first Spider-Man and tweak it so it has a different outcome or if she will indeed be pumpkin bombed to all hell in the next movie. Hmmm....I guess I'll go look this up on the net.

[SonicDeathMonkey]

Upon looking further I can't find anything that says she ever died so I guess I'm wrong and I was just thinking of Gwen Stacy.

[NuclearMisfit]

I believe you are right a pumpkin bomb detonated near her sending her falling Stan Lee metions this in Mallrats I believe.

[Tweek]

mary jane being pumpkin bombed to death might be better than venom eating her brain.


heh, One more, thing. WHY did they show harry reaching for a green tube in a tv spot?

[The Engraved]

It was the original Green Goblin (Norman Osborn) who threw Gwen Stacy from the George Washington Bridge and where she ultimately died. None of the Hobgoblin incarnations ever killed Mary-Jane. Though I must say that Harry's Green Goblin did torment her and put her life in jeopardy on a number of occasions.

Spoilers

Raimi did tweek things a bit for the movie. In the first one, the Green Goblin threw Mary-Jane off the bridge (when it was suppose to be Gwen Stacy). The way Norman died is right out of the comics except that Peter left him impaled by his glider. The one who removed his green goblin garb was Harry who secretly saw the whole fight. He did not want the cops to find his father like that. Harry by that time was already unstable and witnessing his father's death put him over the edge. Knowing that his father was the Green Goblin made him struggle to decide if he should avenge his father's death or lead a normal life. He tried fighting it, but once he donned the garb, he became committed to hurting Spider-Man and somehow prove that he was not a loser like his father thought.

In the second movie, Harry found a secret room with his father's costume and weapons. Now this is very similar to the comics because both Norman and Harry were known for having many and many secret liars and rooms.

Now, as far as the green tube, after years of struggling with Spider-Man and his alter ego (both knew who each other were and thus it was a very personal war), Harry modified the original formula his father used to make him stronger.

[Tweek]

it was a major spoiler for the movie is all i'm saying...

heh.

[Magnificent]

In the comics, lots of character die.....

Gwen Stacey
Aunt May
Mary Jane ............she does die
Harry Osborn

I think even Peter Parker's own kid dies.


Lots of tragedy

[adamjohnson]

Mary Jane is still alive! (As I reckon).

Gwen Stacy was bombed off the bridge by the Green Goblin. Spidey was unable to save her before she drowned.

Peter and MJ got pregnant, right around the time the original GG himself, Norman Osborn, came back. Because of his secret involvement in it, in order to hurt Peter, Osborn was involved in the babys miscarriage.

Hell, a few other Peter Parkers have died too.

Aunt May (although she came back)

Peters parents did too, after being killed by Nazis in the way, they were spies for the US.

So, yeah, lots of tragedy.

[Tweek]

okay mary jane and peter had a kid in an alternate timeline.
she's now one of the spider-girls.

[The Engraved]

Mary Jane ............she does die


No she didn't. Peter thought she died in an airplane explosion and for a long time all readers thought she was dead. In fact, for alot of issues they had him mourn her death. Eventually it was proven that she was taken (kidnapped) from the plane before it exploded. After her return, she decided to separate from Peter and moved away. That is why in the comics she was absent for a few years (ticked me off) and Peter led the single life.

[miguel_montes]

Originally posted by Magnificent
I think even Peter Parker's own kid dies.

He has kids? Man, I better catch up on my readings!

[chasingbanky]

Originally posted by Tweek
okay mary jane and peter had a kid in an alternate timeline.
she's now one of the spider-girls.



My problem with marvel comics is all summed up in that first sentence........Alternate timelines are fucking unbelievably confusing, and I feel they hurt the overall mythology of SPiderman, and the X-men especially......As for MJ dying I do remember her getting sucked through a portal or something and then Peter finally finding her but it wasn't really her it was a clone that Hydroman created or some shit.....Intense shit these comics.

[T-1000]

Originally posted by chasingbanky
As for MJ dying I do remember her getting sucked through a portal or something and then Peter finally finding her but it wasn't really her it was a clone that Hydroman created or some shit.....Intense shit these comics.

Actually, if I remember correctly, that was from the animated series from a years back, not the comics.

[LoomisFan]

Gwen Stacy was bombed off the bridge by the Green Goblin. Spidey was unable to save her before she drowned.
Let me set it straight. Like in the flick, the Goblin drops a cable car and the girl Spidey loves (in the comics' case, Gwen Stacy). Spidey saves the cable car, and shoots a web to save Gwen. The web snags her by the leg. The whiplash causes her neck to snap. The Goblin didn't kill her, Spidey's own web did.

[Scarface98.9]

MJ never died in the comics, despite many close calls. But if:








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If Harry becomes a new Green Goblin, and we're subjected to the same villain and crappy costume being used again, I'll scream

















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[Tweek]

Originally posted by chasingbanky
My problem with marvel comics is all summed up in that first sentence........Alternate timelines are fucking unbelievably confusing, and I feel they hurt the overall mythology of SPiderman, and the X-men especially......As for MJ dying I do remember her getting sucked through a portal or something and then Peter finally finding her but it wasn't really her it was a clone that Hydroman created or some shit.....Intense shit these comics.


LOL
then you probably don't like the Ultimate Series
in Ultimate XMen Wolverine started out as part of Magneto's brotherhood and was sent to infiltrate the x-men and kill the professor

[adamjohnson]

Originally posted by Scarface98.9
MJ never died in the comics, despite many close calls. But if:

********************SPOILERS FOR THE END OF SM2******************************

If Harry becomes a new Green Goblin, and we're subjected to the same villain and crappy costume being used again, I'll scream

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It wont be exactly the same. Id imagine they will change the suit some, (hopefully the mask!)

Harrys goblin is more powerful physically, but less powerful mentally.HOWEVER, i DO think that Harry will employ a helping hand in the next film. Im guessing the Lizard since he and Dr. Octavius were such good friends, Harry would know of him.

This time also, Harry knows Peter's secret from the word go. He can do whatever he wants to Peter now.

[Labbla]

I imagine in the next movie it will either be just Harry as the Hob and or Green Goblin. Or Harry as some sort of Goblin and the Lizard.

[Tweek]

the lizard... i wonder if they're going to have him try to get creatures to do his bidding?

[Haddonfield]

They introduced an astronaut so that could open up the world of Venom if they wanted to really flesh out that storyline but I dont see that going on any time soon.

[Tweek]

haddonfield, do you know how much backlash from fanboys/girls (me not included) they'd get if john jameson was venom?

plus it'd be beyond lame if he turned evil because mary jane the dumbshit left him



It wont be exactly the same. Id imagine they will change the suit some
Heh, apparently sam raimi said that it "won't be his daddy's green goblin"
needless to say im intrigued

[Dead Halloween]

I think the Lizard is a boring villain, I hope they don't use him for the sequel.

[Tweek]

heh, i'd like to see something with the lizard and him trying to control all the amphibious creatures

[Patrick Bateman]

I would be more intrigued with The Lizard in Spider-Man 3, than Harry/Goblin 2.
Although I cant say I'm the biggest Lizard fan, I started reading comics during Todd Mcfarlane's run on Spider-Man, and absolutely loved the way he drew The Lizard, and can see him being very cool up on the silver screen. Especially like with what Tweek said, about controlling all amphibous creatures.

Admit it, The Lizard would be better than yet another go at the Green Goblin.

[Thrizzle]

I think Spider-Man should get the symbiote suit, then kick the shit out of the Green Goblin AND the Lizard. Then set up Venom for Part 4.

[Witchproject]

They shouldn't make a part four, if you ask me. They're going to push it, and Toby won't want to do another I'm sure in fear of being typecasted (he's already spoke about this).

As for the comics:
MJ is still alive, but is with Peter Parker's clone. The real Pete takes over as Spiderman when Parker moves away with MJ. She's come very close to dying, but she's also one of the most beloved spiderman characters, and has been since I think the 60s when they finally showed her face in the comic. Killing her off would be nothing but a disappointment to the fans, which is why whenever she 'dies' she comes back.

As for the movie:
I hope they don't bring Venom in. A lot of people get mad when I say this, but I have good reasoning. The Venom is a great character, but one without a relevant story. Eddie Brock (Venom's alter-ego and symbiosis-buddy) is mentioned merely once in the films. It would require a backstory to be written in, taking up a lot of time in the movie. Not only would we have to have the symbiot come to Earth, attach itself to Spidey, have Spidey go through all the crap the new 'suit' puts him in, but also the story of Eddie Brock, how he comes to hate Peter Parker, and how he comes across the symbiot. Add this to the Hobgoblin story and the walkthrough of Parker's life, and we have a long movie. Nevermind the comicbook geeks who would wonder what happened to the Secret Wars saga.
No, in truth, they really should bring a more conventional, and easier-to-insert secondary villain if at all. Good choices do NOT include the Lizard, although it was cool to see the cameo in the second movie. The Lizard is boring, and I have no clue how they could make a good movie with him in the mix. What would he do, go renegade and start dragging college girls into the sewer? There are already plenty of New Yorkers who do that who Spiderman could fight. It would be cool to throw in classic characters like Electro, or Mysterio, revamped for modern times. And if they do go ahead and confirm another few movies, bring the Venom saga into it all (slightly adapted for the movie, of course), maybe at the ending of this one. This would also be a good start to INTRODUCE the Lizard, but he shouldn't be a main character in Spidey3.

[Tweek]

In Ultimate Spider-man the costume didn't come from space. It was something peter's dad worked on before he died, to help terminally ill patients.

And yeah, the Lizard shouldn't be a main villain, but i'd like to see him in there somehow. And in the movie Peter has a connection to dr. connors. in the comics he was challenged to battle the lizard by the daily bugle.


The official death of gwen stacy was the fall killing her. She died before peter grabbed her with the web. It was the shock of the fall.

[Patrick Bateman]

I admit that The Lizard is a very secondary villian in the comic books, and is generally not the most popular spidey villian in the Marvel Universe, but he could turn out to be pure gold up on the silver screen.
Reason being, is that Raimi isnt really interested in whos the coolest/most popular villian for Spidey to fight in a sequel. He's admitted in an interview that he primarly draws his attention to the relationships of the characters, and not who the villian will be.
I remember reading an interview with Raimi stating that he wasnt sure Doc Ock was going to even be in Spider-Man 2, untill he figured out what Peter Parker's story was going to be for the film.
Which is something I agree with. The Spidey films SHOULD focus on Peter Parker's growth as a hero, as this is HIS story. NOT the villian.
Raimi, I presume, has learned this crucial part of storytelling from the previous Batman films. Which as much as I love Batman 1989, focused more on The Joker than the actual title character. The same can be said with all of the Batman sequels as well. Which is why I am really looking forward to Batman Begins!

Back to Spidey. Basically my point is that Raimi has already established a relationship between Harry, and his hatred for Spider-Man. Which is why Harry will more than likely appear as the Green Goblin/Hobgoblin in Spider-Man 3. And Raimi has also established a relationship with Peter, and his teacher Dr. Connor's. Which, in all probability, will result in an appearance of The Lizard in Spider-Man 3. Raimi has said he prefers more sympathetic character's, than just flat out evil (Doc Ock anyone?).
Which is perfect with Harry. Because say what you will, his final act in the comic books was saving Spider-Man's life from a exploding building. Same can be said with The Lizard, as he is another character who is not totally evil.

As much as I would enjoy seeing OTHER classic spidey villians over The Green Goblin again, and The Lizard; it just appears that Raimi will be going with the latter. Which is fine, because I'm sure he can make adjustments, and improvements, with both The Green Goblin, and especially the Lizard. Bring it on!

BTW, The Venom Saga can be shortened. As the regular Spider-Man universe have their version, the animated series has theirs, and the Ultimate Spider-Man universe has it's as well. It doesnt have to be exact, just as long as it's done well.

"Zardoz, has spoken!" :D

[drdash]

i've been readins spiderman since i was a kid. and just for the record peter is married to mj and they broke up for awhile, but now they're back together as happy as ever. mj is trying out her acting career and peter is a science teacher at his old high school. hope that clears it up. myself, i'd love to see a sinister 6 in the next film especially kraven.

ciao
drdash

[Magnificent]

For Spider-man 3 I would like to see either both Harry and the Lizard, or Harry and Venom be the next villians.

The Venom story can be done, I have to disagree with a lot of you for going against it.

Look at the story,

Spider-man gets the alien costum, uses it to fight crime, disregards it, Eddie Brock gets it and becomes Venom.

I would like to see the Gwen Stacy character in this movie too, and have her killed at he end.


A lot of people are acting like the whole movie should be based totally 100% on the comics. If they had it they're way, we wouldn't have movie, we would just have a tv show

The venom story can work, if they just simplify it get the most important aspects from it

Whatever happens, I have faith in the decison, since Sam and Irvin are righting the next installment. Hopfully it will be the best of the trilogy, and the last Spider-man movie.

If they ever do a forth movie, they probably won't have the same cast, or same makers. Some Joel Schelmarker would step in and piss on the series like what happened to the Batman series (although I did like Batman Forever, but It's still weak comapared to the previous two).

Side note............I am pissed at what they've done to the Batman series. I remember Two-face having more inner conflicts, and being more depressed. He wasn't laughing all the time. And wasn't batman aposed to put fear in his enemies..........if so, what was he doing at a charity event in BATMAN AND ROBIN?........I guess he gave up on that goal.


Back to what I was saying. If Spider-man 4 is ever done, if it's made by different people, we may get the same results as we did before. Plus, movies that usually go past the third movie, sometimes can't really be taken seriously. For example, I love the alien saga, but Resurrection seemed jokey. Is anybody going to take Jurassic Park 4 seriously?

If they have the same makers, and a script that is worth doing, then maybe..........it would be worth doing, and not make the series seem so over-done.

Plus, I hope they keep to having one villian (there can be an exception for spider-man 3, since Harry will most likely become the Green Goblin, and it would be nice to have a different villian in the movie as well. But, don't have them working together like.....Two/face and Riddler, Posion Ivy/Mr. Freeze)

[Shockwave]

Fuck the Green Goblin, Hobgoblin was cooler anyway!

Have Harry redo the suit to the orange-blue color scheme and revise it to look better. Presto!

I would like to see Harry learning in a movie before becoming the villian in the final.

Id make Venom a biological weapon that would be made at Os-corp and have Harry use it against Spiderman in the thrid movie, THEN have Harry ready to take things a step firther in the final fourth movie, maybe even having Norman himelf returning for the final round.

[Scarface98.9]

Regarding the Venom storyline; is it even necessary to have Spider Man have the black costume?

[Thrizzle]

Originally posted by Scarface98.9
Regarding the Venom storyline; is it even necessary to have Spider Man have the black costume?

I think so...not only because it would cool to see his powers enhanced (including incredible strength), but the symbiote suit learns Spidey's powers, and keeps those powers when it attaches to Brock.

[Tweek]

YES! it has to go to peter first
One of the most threatening things about venom (and carnage) is that he is immune to the spider sense, because the symbiote was with pete first.

[Patrick Bateman]

Definately has to go with Peter first. Basically for all the reasons Thrizzle, and Tweek mentioned above. And for also to show that the symbiote itself has a grudge against Spider-Man, and not just Eddie Brock.

Cause when you combine a pissed off Symbiote, rejected by Peter Parker's alter ego, Spider-Man. And a recently laid off (ultimately due to Peter Parker's revelation of a story Eddie Brock falsely reported), Daily Bugle employee named, Eddie Brock....

You get..... VENOM!

Yes, it is essential. Because anything less, would be uncivilized.

[Nachokoolaid]

Harry's Green Goblin and Lizard will appear in Spiderman 3, and Spidey will find the symbiote suit to fight them. Eddie Brock will also be given a somewhat larger role in part 3. This will all lead to part 4 with Venom as the villian, and part five, where Spidey and Venom sort of have to fight together to defeat Carnage.

I can actually see all this happening. You just have to throw in Black Cat somewhere, and some other minor villians (I'd love to see Mysterio handled like he is in the current Spidey 2 video game. He's so goofy. It would be a good side-villian and some comic relief). Also, I wouldn't mind seeing a cameo from Punisher or one of the X-men somewhere along the way. That's my 2 cents.

[Shockwave]

Nah, i REALLY dont want them throwing in multiple villians.

Its a sign that the they are weak characters and need other filler charaters to help them share the spot ligth becuase they are uninteresting and good for little lese other then action scenes.

I could see Black Cat with GG or Hobgolbin becuase weve already seen the goblin in action and know his role, and Black Cat isnt really a villian.

I still say-

3. Lizard and black cat?

4. Venom ( Os-corp bio weapon!)

5. Green Goblin(Norman, not Harry!)

Its got to end with GG returning, it would swing the story full circle.

[Anthony4sho]

I really don't think that they should bring back a second GG. It would be too repetitive, and many regular moviegoers would probaby not like it at all. Face it. Only hardcore Spidey fans would enjoy it. However, as much as I protest, he will most likely be in some future Spider-Man. Unless they bitch up and have Harry just apologize to peter and say that his father deserved it cuz he was the GG:p. If they are going to put him in, then Raimi better give 110%, cuz I'm not feeling that scenario.

Now the Lizard and GG...................The Lizard is alright, but he is too small time. We already did that with the last two. It's time to bring in bigger villans. I don't mind him as a side villan tho.

I really think that they should put in Venom. It would be a great way to end the movies with a bang. And they don't have to follow the comic book. Here is my idea, tell me what you all think.

Jameson's son goes to space right? And the symbiote boards his shuttle and returns to Earth with him someway somehow. IT DOES NOT TAKE OVER HIM. Meanwhile, Eddie Brock and Peter are working at the Daily Bugle and they start to get to know each other. Maybe they can make up someway for those two to get into a competition where Brock starts to dislike Peter, and then Brock gets layed off.

Jameson comes back and he is carrying the symbiote with him, not inside him, but it is on him. He is still distraught over losing MJ, so he goes to visit her. The symbiote then leaves Jameson and goes with MJ while they are talking or w/e, and MJ brings it back to Peter's apartment, where it would take over Peter.

I don't follow the comics, so I don't know what happens during the time it has Peter, except it enhances his abilities. So lets say he remains in contact with Brock, and Brock cannot find a job, so he resorts to crime and things like that. Spider-Man would foil his attempts maybe 1 or 2 times, though he would get away. Peter talks to him in person, and lets say the symbiote then goes to Brock, which would drive him insane. Immediatly afterwards Peter would notice a difference in his abilities, and just shrug it off. The symbiote would take over him and he would become Venom.

Now I know Venom is not really evil, he is though insane, and most times he believes that he is acting in favor of the people, and he views Spider-Man as a greater evil or some shit right? Can someone confirm that?

Alright anyways they fight for a little bit and they can end it anyway they want to. Of course they would have to have filler villans so people wouldn't get bored, so the Lizard could be brought in. They would also have to explain some things that I did not.

NOW, if they want to have a 4th, then they shouldn't kill off Venom, but somehow or someway, get him in a cell with the guy who turns into Carnage. And then the symbiote or a piece of it would break off and turn him into Carnage. Venom would not be able to beat him on his own and realizes that Carnage is his own creation, and come to hate him. After Spidey finds out he can't beat Carnage, then him and Venom would team up and kick his ass.

Anyways thats my crazy idea. Damn I can't believe I just wrote all that.

[Tweek]

The rights to venom apparently are owned by another studio, anyway.

http://www.comics2film.com/ProjectFrame.php?f_id=217

A while back Goyer wrote the script for a Venom feature film. He does not recall the experience fondly, “Yeah, that was a bit of a [pause and a breath]. It wasn't great [laughs]. I never was a big Venom fan and, at the time, the people at New Line really wanted me to do it. It's one of the few times that - even though I love New Line - I allowed myself to be talked into something.�


But that's a spiffy idea, anthony4sho.
:cool:

[Shockwave]

In the comic Venom was pulled from another dimension in the SECRET WARS saga by Spider-man to repair his own damaged costume after he saw Thor do it to repair his own.

It was equipmwnt made by the Beyonder so i guess Spider-man didnt know how to operate it?

Venoms origin has always been abit goofy, thats why they change it so much.

I still like the idea of the Venom suit being a bio-weapon made by Os-corp, which failing in all other fields, has gone back to making stuff for the military.:cool:

[JoeChar4321]

Originally posted by Witchproject
They shouldn't make a part four, if you ask me. They're going to push it, and Toby won't want to do another I'm sure in fear of being typecasted (he's already spoke about this).

As for the comics:
MJ is still alive, but is with Peter Parker's clone. The real Pete takes over as Spiderman when Parker moves away with MJ. She's come very close to dying, but she's also one of the most beloved spiderman characters, and has been since I think the 60s when they finally showed her face in the comic. Killing her off would be nothing but a disappointment to the fans, which is why whenever she 'dies' she comes back.


NOOOOOOOO! MJ is NOT with Peter Parker's clone. That whole clone mess was just a VERY poor plot turn that Marvel fans, creators & artists are trying to distance themselves from at all cost. The clone did take over for the original for a while as Peter & MJ tried for a normal life. The clone died (good riddance) and Peter Parker is again Spider-Man. Please FORGET that clone stuff and NEVER mention it again. MJ is alive and well. She and Peter separated for a time but are now back together. The current Amazing Spider-Man has a VERY interesting storyline starting and is worth picking up.

As for the films, not only will we see Spider-Man 4 but 5,6,7 as well and I can't wait for each of them. If James Bond can do it then why not a character that has more depth and cool superpowers?

Spider-Man 3? You will probably see a Harry/Goblin (Hobgoblin or Green Goblin 2) fund the creation of another villain. No accidents this time. Harry's money and hatred will produce Venom, Scorpion or Lizard. The comics origins for this villain will be changed dramatically and that will be just fine. Venom? Forget Eddie Brock and just have Venom be a creation of Oscorp. An alien symbiote would be too confusing and even silly to inject in to the franchise at this point. Harry could just tell JJJ's son about Peter's secret and get him to volunteer for project Venom. Harry would then have his own personal, dark version of Spider-Man at his disposal. After a superbrawl between Venom & Spider-Man, Harry could just suit up and try what his father did with MJ. MJ again goes off the bridge. This time (if Kirsten Dunst doesn't re-sign for multiple sequels) SNAP ... MJ dies (taking the place of Gwen in the comics). Introduce Gwen in Spider-Man 4 (or Black Cat) and have Peter picking up the pieces. The film has flipped Norman and Harry from the comics so why not flip MJ and Gwen? Sam Raimi is old school. So, Venom won't be his first choice but who knows?

Regardless, Sam Raimi & Company did a great job with this instant classic. They should definitely take a bow for this one!

[ColinM]

I have a question…does Ursula, the neighbor from Spider-Man 2, play some sort of a part in the comics or something? Although I really liked the actress playing her, her part in the movie seemed kinda pointless, but I know Raimi wouldn’t put her scenes in without good reason. There must be future plans for her or something...

[ColinM]

hehe, This is pretty funny. Absolute nonsense, of course, but funny. I just read this post on the IMDb Spider-Man 3 boards from a guy with the oh-so-witty screenname, All_Up_In_That_Ass:

I only recently received this report, so I'm unsure as to how accurate it is, but bear with me:

Sam Raimi has been having a serious disagreement with the producers concerning the third 'Spider-Man' movie. They still refuse to increase his salary or share in the profits to an acceptable level, so he intends to strike his revenge by intentionally ruining the third installment. Apparently it will be a musical where Peter gets engaged to Mary-Jane. At the wedding he gets cold feet and dumps her at the altar, eventually finding refuge in the sewer where he hides from her and lives off of rodent feces and his Spider-Man outfit. Harry, pent up with rage, dons the Green Goblin gear and wreaks senseless havoc across New York City. He meets up with the Black Cat and they become partners until he rapes her in public. This is when Peter decides to comes out of hiding and rescue New York in his now partially eaten Spidey costume. The cast is as follows:

Peter Parker - Tom Green
Mary-Jane Watson - Mike Myers in drag
Harry Osborn/Green Goblin II - Matthew Lillard
The Black Cat - Alyson Hannigan
The Token Mayor of NYC - Dave Chappelle
Cletus Kasady the Homicidal Wino - David Boreanaz
Man Aunt Mae Catches Masterbating in Bathroom - Woody Allen


Well...I would like to see Alyson Hannigan as Black Cat...

;)

[ColinM]

Originally posted by JoeChar4321
The current Amazing Spider-Man has a VERY interesting storyline starting and is worth picking up.

I was thinking of getting into this comic again – or another comic depending on what the best one is these days, I used to be into Green Lantern, Nightwing and Batman and am not sure what’s good anymore. What is the current storyline in Amazing Spidey, if you don’t mind my asking?

Originally posted by JoeChar4321
Venom? Forget Eddie Brock and just have Venom be a creation of Oscorp. An alien symbiote would be too confusing and even silly to inject in to the franchise at this point.

:( That’s a shame; Brock is awesome. But yeah, you’re right, it would be silly to try the alien symbiote thing at this point in the movies, and your idea for how to bring Venom in is as good as any others I’ve heard.

Originally posted by JoeChar4321
Introduce Gwen in Spider-Man 4 (or Black Cat) and have Peter picking up the pieces.

It’d be great if they brought Black Cat in – assuming they do it the right way. She is way more interesting than Gwen...

[Tweek]

What is the current storyline in Amazing Spidey, if you don?t mind my asking?

the 5 part arc is called "Sins Past"
and the first issue sees peter receiving a weird letter from Gwen Stacy... It was written while she was still in France (before her death)... But it wasn't a lost letter as the postmark was New York, current time.

[moobycow]

One for the fan boys...

I do consider myself a fan of the comics but I'm a bit confused by one of the characters. It's spidey with with 4 arms. How did this occur? I certainly wouldn't like to see this in the Movie series but I'm just curious

[Anthony4sho]

Originally posted by moobycow
One for the fan boys...

I do consider myself a fan of the comics but I'm a bit confused by one of the characters. It's spidey with with 4 arms. How did this occur? I certainly wouldn't like to see this in the Movie series but I'm just curious

I think his name was Doppelganger or something.........he was created when something decided to make an evil version of all the heroes of Earth I believe.......he was killed by Carnage.

[adamjohnson]

It also happens right before Spidey mutates into the Man-Spider. He sprouts some new arms.

[Luke-Abbott]

Upon watching Spider-Man 2 (great film, btw) I've noticed something, theres a "comic-verse" and a "movie-verse" and both of them are slightly different, most noticeably the "movie-verse". I haven't read most Spider-Man comics with Dr. Octopus in them ('cept for the Ultimate title) so I don't know if Doc Ock's character changed somewhat like in the films finale.
So, I guess what I'm basically trying to say is in the movies with the comics that they are based on, they're gonna change and tweak with some stuff to "improve" and be able to fit it in a whole 2 hour movie.
The problem I see with Venom appearing in the 3rd movie is that Venom will probably appear in the middle of the movie, or maybe the finale.

I think Sam Raimi mentioned in an interview that the Black Cat will be making an appearance so maybe it'll be Harry's Goblin and the Black Cat making they're appearances (even though 'Cat wasn't a villian to begin with - I don't think so anyways).
Maybe since Harry's "Goblin serum" makes him more stronger, Peter asks 'Cat to help him in his fight agasint Harry when Mary Jane (possibly) dies(?). Not sure, but I think thats the way it might turn out, with Harry and Peter knowing who they are and with the death of Mary Jane it can get pretty personal.

Thats what I see happening than anything else (even though it might not turn out quite like that).

[JoeChar4321]

Originally posted by Luke-Abbott
I think Sam Raimi mentioned in an interview that the Black Cat will be making an appearance so maybe it'll be Harry's Goblin and the Black Cat making they're appearances (even though 'Cat wasn't a villian to begin with - I don't think so anyways).
Maybe since Harry's "Goblin serum" makes him more stronger, Peter asks 'Cat to help him in his fight agasint Harry when Mary Jane (possibly) dies(?). Not sure, but I think thats the way it might turn out, with Harry and Peter knowing who they are and with the death of Mary Jane it can get pretty personal.

Thats what I see happening than anything else (even though it might not turn out quite like that).

Rumors have it that Eliza Dushku (Tru Calling, Faith on Buffy) has the part or is the leader to play Black Cat in Spider-Man 3.

Good Call!
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"I'm a bit confused by one of the characters. It's spidey with with 4 arms. How did this occur? "

That happened in the mid 1970s and he spouted extra arms briefly like "adamjohnson" posted. I don't recall the specifics but it had to do with a serum and maybe a cure from his spider-powers.

[vanick216]

Nobody get mad at me because I am a big spider-man fan. I didn't read the comics but I loved the cartoons and the movies.ok I really want to see venom but it would take to long to set up eddie brock.I really don't want to see another green goblin yet if at all.Sam Raimi wants it to be about Peter Parker and his struggles. I might have a solution. Venom is a weapon created by oscorp. that somehow copy's peoples abilitys.For example someone passes venom on to say 10 guys and copy's there strengths.Venom then comes back to the person that gave it to those ten guys and now he has the strength of ten men.So Harry secretly passes it off to Peter and it copy's his abilitys then comes back to harry and he becomes venom.Then Peter struggles with battling his best friend.This way people who want venom get venom,people who don't want to see green goblin again don't have to,and since its Harry it still focuses on Peter's relationship with him like Sam Raimi wants.It could also be the end of a trilogy or the end of the harry chapter and the begining of a new one.It was just a different take I thought might be good.

[EDsoulsurvive*]

I'm praying Dushku lands the role of Black Cat in SM3.