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butters
07-04-2004, 08:03 PM
PLease help me understand the ending of Predator2...

Just finnished watching it and couldnt quite grasp what happens.

(SPOILERS...)



So, he manages to kill the pred and the other preds give him that gun with 1715 on it. Then, his last line is "dont worry asshole, youll get another chance" or something to that effect. So...
did the preds repect him for killing one of them and not kill him?
why did they give him the gun?
did he mean that they will return?

nice movie tho, not as good as the first. Wish i could say i was looking forward to Andersons hybrid, i just think hes gonna mess up 2 good freanchises. oh well.
thnx

the dead one
07-04-2004, 08:15 PM
They seem to be making reference to the "Predators" as a race of hunters, traveling the galaxy seeking the Big Game from planet to planet...Like any true hunter they respect their prey.

The date on the weapon indicates that they have been on earth before
and YES unlike Arnold from the 1st film...theyll be back!

Thats what I have summized...:D

Skysaber
07-04-2004, 08:17 PM
He beat the Predator using hand-to-hand weapons, not a gun or anything of the like, so in a way you could say they respected him being able to kill one of their own and decided to spare him.

They gave him the gun to show him that they've been visiting Earth for some time.

butters
07-04-2004, 08:31 PM
ok, i think i see now. Thanx for the help guys. :D

Talking Text
07-04-2004, 08:53 PM
Yeah, i've just finished watching this. It was on channel4, pretty decent flick.

the dead one
07-04-2004, 09:51 PM
Everyone knows it's butters...!:p

Mentiroso
07-04-2004, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Skysaber

They gave him the gun to show him that they've been visiting Earth for some time.


I thought they gave him the gun as a trophy. Kinda of liek how they colect skulls as trophies, they just gave him an old gun instead.

My take on it.

Cunning Visions
07-04-2004, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Mentiroso
I thought they gave him the gun as a trophy. Kinda of liek how they colect skulls as trophies, they just gave him an old gun instead.

My take on it.

Exactly...but I think it's a little of both though. They gave him the gun as a sign of respect (like a trophy) but at the same time they knew he would see the date on the gun and realize they've been around a long time. Kind of like "Yeah...you killed my man Rosco over here, so here's a trophy for your victory. But read it carefully...cause we'll be back bitch. Now leave...Riggs is waiting for you outside."

rogelioduron
07-05-2004, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Cunning Visions
Exactly...but I think it's a little of both though. They gave him the gun as a sign of respect (like a trophy) but at the same time they knew he would see the date on the gun and realize they've been around a long time. Kind of like "Yeah...you killed my man Rosco over here, so here's a trophy for your victory. But read it carefully...cause we'll be back bitch. Now leave...Riggs is waiting for you outside."

This is by far the best interpretation i´ve read about the ending of a movie........Good Job.

Luke-Abbott
07-05-2004, 01:00 PM
Nothing I say will probably be any different from what everyone else has said, but anyways:

From what I understand, the Predators visit Earth to hunt every 7 years, its what Gary Busey's character says in one scene. Now for sparing him, I think they did that as a sign of "respect" for killing their kind and also for a sign of "it's over": He killed the Predator that was hunting this time round and so now its dead the hunt is over and they have to wait for another 7 years before another Predator can come take its place.
I don't think they'll come back for revenge, they are hunters and just kill anyone who is carrying a weapon, any weapon for sport.

Thats my interpretation anyways.

Luke-Abbott
07-05-2004, 04:25 PM
For some reason this didn't go to the top of the page :confused:

KillerKlown
07-05-2004, 05:02 PM
I reckon that the reason the date on the gun was 1715 is the Predator's ship is capable of travelling at the speed of light - even though they would only be away for a short time (to them), hundreds of years would have passed on earth.

I also reckon that they didn't kill him as he dropped the slain Predator's cutting frisbee, when the main Predator had the laser sight on him.

pyscho dude
07-05-2004, 06:09 PM
Great theories everyone. I just thought it was a weapon that was capable of destroying them and they'd be back or something. I don't know.

Scythemantis
07-05-2004, 08:56 PM
For some reason, I was always under the impression that the gun belonged to an ancestor of his who took on the preds and he had earned it back by defeating one.

I have no idea why I've thought this...I guess it's been a while.

Shadow Whisper
07-05-2004, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by KillerKlown
I reckon that the reason the date on the gun was 1715 is the Predator's ship is capable of travelling at the speed of light - even though they would only be away for a short time (to them), hundreds of years would have passed on earth.


Nope, Predator ships are not limited to the speed of light. This is infrered by the fact that Predator technology is much more advanced than human technology and that human ships are not limited to light speed travel by the time of alien. A Predator can live can live for hundreds of years. One of the Predator comics even had the story of the elder Predator captuering the pistol back in the 1700s from a group of pirates.

Cronos
07-06-2004, 08:37 AM
one thing about Predator 2 that made me think what the fuck was when the predator lost his mask, in the orignal film, when the predator took off his mask everything went red but in this he still saw heat, i thought that was the job of the mask?????

KillerKlown
07-06-2004, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Shadow Whisper
Nope, Predator ships are not limited to the speed of light.

Well if they are not limited to travelling at the speed of light, then they can travel faster than light? That still leads to the same result, of being away for a short time relatively, but hundreds of years passing on earth.

Mentiroso
07-06-2004, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Cronos
one thing about Predator 2 that made me think what the fuck was when the predator lost his mask, in the orignal film, when the predator took off his mask everything went red but in this he still saw heat, i thought that was the job of the mask?????


And when Glover removed his mask he said "You are one ugly" before the predator grabbed his throat and finished the line "ugly mother f**ker" , how did the predator know that Arnie had said this in the first one?

Luke-Abbott
07-06-2004, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Mentiroso
And when Glover removed his mask he said "You are one ugly" before the predator grabbed his throat and finished the line "ugly mother f**ker" , how did the predator know that Arnie had said this in the first one?

I just assumed that part was a bit of fun the filmmakers thought of doing, like those who had seen the original and then heard that line they would probably snigger a few times at its corniness.
Once you think about it, us humans are a bad influence on the Predators, not only does it say "Mutha f*cker" but it also says "Sh*t happens" :D

butters
07-06-2004, 07:51 PM
OK, so let me try and get this strait...

The predators hunt earth every 7 years but they only kill anyone with a weapon. So, if for instance king willy hadnt of taken out his sword, the pred wouldnt have lopped off his head. yes?
Because whats-it killed the predator, the other preds were like "congratulations, you won this really old gun." And the gun tells us that the preds have been around a really long time doing this because the preds stole the gun from a pirate...... in 1715.... :(

jagged halo
07-07-2004, 02:40 PM
From what I've surmised the Predator will only engage in combat if its opponent is equipped with some sort of weaponry. It hunts for sport ultimately. Danny Glover was spared in P2 because he'd won the 'game' fair and square. You see even aliens are capable of sportsman ship. I thought it was going to extra time then a penalty shoot out, can you imagine?:D

Skysaber
07-07-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by jagged halo
From what I've surmised the Predator will only engage in combat if its opponent is equipped with some sort of weaponry. It hunts for sport ultimately. Danny Glover was spared in P2 because he'd won the 'game' fair and square. You see even aliens are capable of sportsman ship. I thought it was going to extra time then a penalty shoot out, can you imagine?:D

That's what I figured after watching the original, and how the Predator seemed to only target people with weapons (like when it spared that young asian woman's life). They must be able to detect real weapons from fake ones because in part two, when he's hiding in the tree at the cemetary, that young boy is playing with a fake gun and the Predator zooms in on it but doesn't kill the boy.

I think the Predator is on Earth for more of a sport; however, unlike how we hunt (shooting deer with no kind of defence or offensive artillary) the Predator goes after those who are equipped for a fight, sparing those that aren't. Although their weaponry is much more advanced, they are trying to give themselves a decent run for their money since we're probably the only organism in the galaxy thus far able to compete with them, until, of course, Aliens come (AvP).

jagged halo
07-07-2004, 03:29 PM
Lol!, we're led to believe they hunt for sport, but there's a huge dose of blood-lust thrown in for good measure.

I'm looking forward to AVP, but something tells me it isn't going to replica the grittiness of the originals:(

butters
07-07-2004, 05:52 PM
hmm, the more i hear about the preds the more i want them to win AvP. But do you reccon that they'll pull a fast one on us like they did with freddy vs jason? after all, how can only one win. Aliens vs Predators Vs us...i know who im voting to loose...lol

Mr.HyDe807
07-08-2004, 03:53 PM
I kinda just realized something, although it may be far from the truth. Perhaps the gun belonged to Danny Glover's ancestor who put up a good fight, but died trying. So they come back to go after Danny Glover and since he was able to kill one of them, they respected for that and presented the gun like that.

I dont know, i agree with everybody; but thats something i kinda coyld be.....

Klownzilla
07-08-2004, 09:05 PM
Damn, I'm going to have to watch Predator 2 tonight! I haven't seen it for, oh let's say 10 years, and back then a lot of those things didn't make sense to me and I never really thought about it later on. You all have offered some great insight and I'll be looking forward to examining these aspects in the movie more closely than before.