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Ted Pikul
07-05-2004, 01:22 PM
After watching the dismal TCM remake all I can say is a plague on all their houses.
Being able to shoot a 3 minute pop promo does not a film director make.
I really fear for the future of the film industry as these talentless hacks follow in Michael Bay's footsteps.
Scarface98.9
07-05-2004, 02:20 PM
Yeah, I hate those music video directors. Talentless hacks like Spike Jonze, David Fincher, and Michel Gondry. Fuck'em all!
The Pez
07-05-2004, 02:21 PM
I dont think that all music video directors turned movie director are bad. If you remember David Fincher directed many Madonna videos before he went on to direct Se7en and Fight Club. So I really think it depends on the actual person who started with videos on MTV rather then all of them lumped together.
*edit* I was pretty much beat, but yea what the guy above me said.
ComeNightfall
07-05-2004, 03:20 PM
I agree with The Pez, but I'm also tired of this MTV inspired filming, especially in horror movies. I like my scary scenes drawn out, not quick rapid cuts with glossy sound FX.
Grim H.
07-05-2004, 07:30 PM
The only one I truly hate with a passion is Joseph Kahn...aka, no-talent, psudeo-intellectual hack director of such "classics" as Torque.
I wouldn't mind him if we were just a hack director who would mind his own damn business, but as a contemporary music video director, I have to hear about him everywhere. I saw his episode of MTV cribs, and he's an arrogant fuckwit. His living room consists of an enormous television screen, and then a lame-ass chair in the middle of the room. Why, you ask?
"Simplicity is best..." he replies, reveling in how cool he thinks he is (like one of those people who go to Starbucks and talk very loudly about art or literature, just so they can be cool)
Yeah, simplicity is best, Kahn...especially considering how much you butcher Torque with useless special effects...hypocrite? I'd say so...
Fuck you Joseph Kahn! You and Uwe Boll!
blankpage
07-05-2004, 10:59 PM
Hey! Uwe Boll is up there with Kurosawa and Bergman!
He's a brilliant filmmaker.
And I can't remember the last time I was this sarcastic today.
have to agree with the posts above.
it depends if the director is actually a "filmmaker" or just a person who likes "cool" shots.
Spike Jonze, Gondry, Fincher, are music video directors that also have an eye for genuine filmmaking.
while your Kahns, and the rest of his ilk, are all about "w0w! i jUsT uSeD bUlLiT-tyMe. 0zowme!!11!! LoOkIe, i MadE dA cAmErA sPiN. WICKED HOT!!111"
but then again, one might say that it is all about the script.
you would have to ask yourself, would Fight Club have still been awesome if someone like Torque's Kahn directed it?
personally, i say no.
but then again, wtf do i know.
:D
rilocay
07-07-2004, 10:17 AM
I dont seem to have a problem with it like other people,
because i think of it this way, you got your joe shcmoe has some directing talent, he wants to make it big, a real movie director like the greats. Madona offers him sum chash to film her clip, he becomes famous for doing that, does more clips. Now you guys would call him an "mtv" direcotr, but remember he has the talent andwants to be like a "proper" director. So the vid clips wer a big break to get him inot the biz, now that he's well known he can make his dreams come true.
Whats so wrong with that? Many direcotrs start off at their young age with a few vid clips of their friends rock band etc, so why is this such?
Although if they just do it cuz they think they can and you know, they cant, thats a different metter.
someguy
07-08-2004, 07:27 PM
I tend to split music video directors into two groups. One group has the people who can only do music videos, commercials and short films best. The other group can do all of that plus films. It just matters really.
Squid Vicious
07-08-2004, 07:47 PM
It seems that for every David Fincher, Spike Jonze, Mark Romanek or Michel Gondry, there's a Michael Bay, McG, Jonas Akerlund, or that hack who directed The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Saruman
07-09-2004, 01:21 AM
I think it was Kurt Russell that made a comment about a lot of the new directors only have a vision for one or two scenes. They take all their time perfecting these scenes and then rush job the rest.
I think TCM 2003 had some great scenes, but overall the film wasn't very good. The above hopefully applies with this.
Fincher directed one of my all time favorite videos, "Judith" by A Perfect Circle. The grainy video is wicked.
Zeptron
07-20-2004, 05:18 PM
I've not seen any films by Gondry or Jonze, but I would like to. I also thought TCM '03 was very good, though obviously no match for the original.
Fincher, however, seems to be genuinely talented: I thoroughly enjoyed Seven, & this will probably get me banned for life, but here goes...
I loved Alien 3. I have never seen such a powerful, beautifully-crafted sci-fi drama in my life; sure, the film never fails at depressing the shit out of me, but that's a good thing--in these days of squeaky-clean "everything's OK now" endings, I actually find this movie's extremely downbeat tone quite refreshing.
Can't wait to see Fight Club!
this one dude
07-21-2004, 03:30 PM
gore verbinski made bad religion videos. i wonder when he'll achieve some sort of success?
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