Remakes

[thedudeman69]

ugh I hate the way that hollywood has to always take a classic movie and remake it into a crappier movie. I always hated rermakes because they take the same story, same plot and I think a remake is just plagerism with permisson

[ParileseMonster]

I hate remakes to, but some were very cool in the 80's and that is because they kept to the same story and plot but it was updated. Remakes now just use the title of an older movie, but the movie is hardly the same story or plot and totally updated to the point where it is silly and ruined. I think taking a name from a popular movie and sticking it on a story that does not have much to do with the original, False Advertisment. Case in point- The stupid fucking remakes for TCM and Dawn Of The Dead. These were remakes that should have been named something else and not even called a remake. Those two movies were shit!

[thedudeman69]

yeah actually TCM was pretty good for a remake but DOTD was ok and not that great

but I think movie studios are trying to shove all types of remakes down our throats

[Kidsilk]

I don't like remakes either, but there are going to be plenty more with the recent success of DOTD and TCM.

[Cronos]

i hate fucking remakes, if they remade films that were crap that would be different but no....they have to remake great flicks like DOTD and TCM, also theres all these remakes of foreign films like Ringu that arent at all needed

[m ali]

probally in like 30 years there gonna be remaking movies like the matrix the lord of the rings and spiderman movies.

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by m ali
probally in like 30 years there gonna be remaking movies like the matrix the lord of the rings and spiderman movies.

I agree with you, and they will suck big time because everbody knows that the originals are alot better

[Mog]

Remakes can be good...if they push the envelope further than their predeccessor (SP?) did.

Take The Manchurian Candidate for example. When the original was released in 1962, the cinematography was extremely ground-breaking. Judging solely by the trailer for the remake, it looks as if they're not even trying to do ANYTHING different except modernizing the story. That's when a remake sucks. i.e., Psycho.

[Draccoca]

I'm mixed on remakes i like them and hate them all depends on which movie it was. If it wasn't for remakes i would have gotten into the living dead series probaly 10 years later then i did.

Remakes I liked
DOTD
TCM
NOTLD
The Shinning (mini series)

Remakes I Hated
Psycho
Carrie (mini series)
Rollerball

[ParileseMonster]

Man, I hate all those remakes you listed. Make me cringe! The ones I did like were The Blob, The Thing, The Fly and
Dracula 1978. Anything else has been a waste of my time and of my money in my opinion of course.:rolleyes:

[HeavyK]

Some remakes are good and some remakes are bad.
The thing i hate the most nowaday's is that there are just too many of them. It seems like every fuckin' movie ever make is being remade. Some movies just don't need to be.

[Mog]

I don't see why people think "Carrie" and "The Shining" (both mini-series) are considered remakes. They show no reference to the older flicks. In fact, these movies do more justice to the novels than the others do, which is what EVERYONE bitches about these days.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by m ali
probally in like 30 years there gonna be remaking movies like the matrix the lord of the rings and spiderman movies.

I don't know how you can remake LOTR or Spider-Man. They're both adaptations. They'd just be considered new adaptations of the stories.

[Badbird]

I'd rather see remakes than all those TV show movies that poured out of the mid-late 90's.

I remember seeing this IFC spot with Edward Norton ripping on Hollywood's obsesion with remakes, then he... promptly did a remake! Red Dragon anyone!

The Thing was good. I think most people forget that was a remake.

Rollerball and Psycho aside, I don't relly have a problem. I liked DOTD and TCM, and I hate horror movies so that says a lot.

I'd like to see a big budget remake of The Killer. Only without all that Micky Mouse/Dumbo crap.

[TheDeadWalk]

Remakes now just use the title of an older movie, but the movie is hardly the same story or plot and totally updated

I love John Carpenter's "The Thing", but it was a complete turnaround from the film version, and its short story. Characters COMPLETELY changed (no females this time around at all), military bases invented, and some good old fashioned gross outs that were never intended in its original format.

Its been a many of years since "The Fly" or "The Blob" has graced my eyes, but "The Thing" certainly falls into your second catagory of remakes, minus the silly part. It was very hardly the same story and plot.



As for the "methods" and "ethics", I've grown to simply not care about them. A movie is a movie, whether made by Kings or Street Sweepers. The ones that appeal to me are the ones that I will watch. When I was 10 and the 'Night of the Living Dead' remake aired on HBO, I didn't give a fuck about the politics. I was more worried about the shit in my pants from fear of the undead. That's what its all about to me. Not politics.

[ParileseMonster]

Jeez, at least remakes from the 80's were done well and movies now are not done well and the actors are silly and the soundtrack is fucking annoying ok, so I still stand by what I say!

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by ParileseMonster
Jeez, at least remakes from the 80's were done well and movies now are not done well and the actors are silly and the soundtrack is fucking annoying ok, so I still stand by what I say!

I did not ask you to change your point of view on where you stand by horror remakes. I was simply stating my opinion in where my opinion differs from your opinion.

(In my opinion) Some of these horror remakes have been very horrid, and some have been executed very well.

(In my opinion) Some movies get judged by horror fans based on politics and by what decade the film comes out in. When you stated that today's remakes are horrible because they sometimes change the entire plot and message around, I just scratched my head a little bit when you stated "The Thing" as a great remake, though it changed everything around story-wise.

But it was a good film, so its ok.

[ParileseMonster]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
I did not ask you to change your point of view on where you stand by horror remakes.

I know that.

[Badbird]

The Thomas Crown Affair was a good remake.

Also, LOTR is a remake, technically. Remember that god aweful animated LOTR from 1979 I think?

The remakes I can't stand are all the "Let's take a Shakespeare story and update it to a different time" movies. Now they're doing it with fairy tales, but it's still the same shit idea.

[poopontheshoes7]

Huh.....

some of you absolutly refuse to like remakes because there remakes.

Dont bite my head off. Thats the way its coming off. Sorry if I sound like a jerk but come on. Did you ever thing that it could be a good movie.

No! It sucks, its a remake!

just watch and maybe you mite just like it.

Hey you mite not like TCM or DOTD remakes because you thought they werent good in general. But I think most of you guys that dont like them let your hate for remakes hinder your judgment.

Personally I dont like all remakes.

Physco because basically it was the original just with new actors.
If your going to remake a movie, give some thought.

Again. Please dont take this the wrong way! your intitle to your opinion. Who Im I to try and change it. I just think some of you guys automatically dont like a film because its a remake.

Give it a chance.

[Zebra 3]

After Planet of the Apes, Titanic and The Beverly Hillbillies I've pretty much given up on most remakes.

[Antonio]

TV series and classic films alike, my motto has always been: if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Leave well enough alone and come up with an original fucking idea!

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Badbird
Also, LOTR is a remake, technically. Remember that god aweful animated LOTR from 1979 I think?

The 70s version is bad, really bad, but the Peter Jackson version is not a remake. Maybe if you want to be technical you can call it one, but it is not intended as an update of the Bakshi movie, it's a new adaptation.

The Ring is a remake. While the original story came from a book or a short story, it was intended as a remake of the Japanese Ringu (Ring U too, man!).

[go2]

i think all the remakes are better than originals.because of all the remakes i saw i didn't see the original except texas chainsaw and dawn of the dead and i think the remakes are better.

[Tom Samborski]

If remakes are put into the hands of good directors, such as Martin Scorcese (Cape Fear) and Jonathan Demme (The Manchurian Candidate), and as long as they don't get out of hand, then I'm alright with it, just as long as they don't remake it again.

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by Tom Samborski
If remakes are put into the hands of good directors, such as Martin Scorcese (Cape Fear) and Jonathan Demme (The Manchurian Candidate), and as long as they don't get out of hand, then I'm alright with it, just as long as they don't remake it again.

I agree man.

[Greenaway]

Originally posted by Tom Samborski
If remakes are put into the hands of good directors, such as Martin Scorcese (Cape Fear) and Jonathan Demme (The Manchurian Candidate), and as long as they don't get out of hand, then I'm alright with it, just as long as they don't remake it again.

Well, I think that even though the director would be good, it could "get out of hand", but I agree, that when a director is visually inventive, it can be possible to grow "distance" to the original film(s).

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by Antonio
TV series and classic films alike, my motto has always been: if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Leave well enough alone and come up with an original fucking idea!

If it ain't broke... is always a good tagline, but it just means "Don't ever remake films." No studio will ever finance a remake of a bad film, because there is basically no way you can market a once bad film.

A "People under the stairs" remake wouldn't even grace 50 million.

Originality is great, but nowadays if its not a remake, its called a ripoff anyways. There's virtually no way to create a masked killer slasher, or a chainsaw killer without making it a sequel or a remake it seems. If it is made, its just blackballed in the fan market as being a ripoff.

Don't get me wrong, there are several ripoffs (Fear Dot Com?!), but the ripoff bug has become a cancer when discussing films.

[Pvt. Joker]

For the most part I depise remakes, can't stand em. Cape fear was a reat remake but that's it......well maybe more but I can't think of any at the moment. Hopefully one day remakes will join the golden rules of what not to do when making a movie.

[TATU]

I think remaking a movie usually winds up being better than making pointless sequels..... Do we really need a Manchurian Candidate 2? TCM-4? No but remaking them allows youger fans to see a movie that they might never get to see.