They're only opinions people!!

[bigred760]

I read a lot of reviews on this website; I like to see what other people think of the movies I love, the ones I think totally suck, and everything in between. Whether or not I agree with these opinions doesn't matter, I respect those opinions.
So I freakin' hate it when I read stuff like:

"Why you people thought this film was brilliant is beyond me."

"Please, please, PLEASE just ignore [critic's] review of this film."

"The most amazing thing about [movie] is how it tricked so
many people to rate it a '10'. . . "

People, they're just opinions!! Just because other people liked or hated a particular movie, doesn't mean you have to like or hate it as well.
People have their own reasons for thinking a film is brilliant; people are reading reviews to see an opinion of the film, so don't ask them to ignore it, and the movie isn't "tricking" anybody into giving a good review - it's what people thought of it.

So give your own review and leave everybody else's alone. They should do they same to your's.

[Jon Lyrik]

Not a lot of people do that here.

IMDb is another story.

[Ted Pikul]

Yeah, I think the posters on this website are incredibly well mannered & polite in general.

[gyro_44]

I definitely agree with you.

Those are absolutely the worst type of comments, of the "I can't believe you were brainwashed into liking this film!" variety.

To the people making those comments: I'm sure glad you have the superior intellect to prove us all wrong! Boy, thanks!

Like Jon said, people are pretty civil about that stuff around here. I love this place.

[BubbaStrangelove]

Yeah - IMDb is like absurdist humor for me. It's pretty weird posting over there. It's like the people speak a different language. Aint It Cool is a whole 'nother horror story.

[Squid Vicious]

Originally posted by bigred760
"Why you people thought this film was brilliant is beyond me."

"The most amazing thing about [movie] is how it tricked so many people to rate it a '10'. . . "

For me, these two quotes apply to The Butterfly Effect.

[Cronos]

i agree, most of the time posters are very polite and accept others opinions and asking for reasons why someone liked or didnt like something is fair game but its when someone says your stupid for liking a film or even dumber comments along the lines of "if you dont like this film you must not like films at all"

its rediculous and unneeded, films are like music and books, people like different things and if you dont like that and want to insult people you shouldnt be here

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
Not a lot of people do that here.

IMDb is another story.

*Cough* Rotten Tomatoes *Cough*

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Cronos
i agree, most of the time posters are very polite and accept others opinions and asking for reasons why someone liked or didnt like something is fair game but its when someone says your stupid for liking a film or even dumber comments along the lines of "if you dont like this film you must not like films at all"

its rediculous and unneeded, films are like music and books, people like different things and if you dont like that and want to insult people you shouldnt be here


Actually, I got those quotes from posters on Joblo.com

[MisterBowfinger]

Somehow it's not getting any better.

Cstroman got banned from the forum for bashing MM.

He didn't attack anyone on this forum directly (not that I see), but got banned because he didn't like MM.

I thought his posts were funny and the only time he was serious was in the Fahrenhiet 911 thread, but so were others.

I just don't see why he was censored and others not.

I'm a lurker, but people posting on the same thread he did that were just as bad, if not worse, are still around, while he's not.

Just be warned. If you opinion is not shared by the general audience of posters here, expect to be flamed and then banned.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
*Cough* Rotten Tomatoes *Cough*

I very rarely visit those forums. Besides, if I named all the forums that were a lot like that, the list would probably top fifty.

Somehow it's not getting any better.

Cstroman got banned from the forum for bashing MM.

He didn't attack anyone on this forum directly (not that I see), but got banned because he didn't like MM.

I thought his posts were funny and the only time he was serious was in the Fahrenhiet 911 thread, but so were others.

I just don't see why he was censored and others not.

I'm a lurker, but people posting on the same thread he did that were just as bad, if not worse, are still around, while he's not.

cstroman swung several topics off their hinges (even the Fahrenheit 9/11 thread itself, which was by far the most productive thread I have ever seen on Current Movie Talk) and talked obsessively about Moore to the point it was creepy. I am actually surprised he wasn't banned earlier. I am not saying those are the reasons he was banned (I don't know what they are), but I am taking a good guess and I don't think the reason why he was banned was for hating Moore (many posters hate Moore and are not banned). That's an odd assumption. While there were a few posters that shouldn't have gone into what he said, he was a ringleader in it all.

Just be warned. If you opinion is not shared by the general audience of posters here, expect to be flamed and then banned.

What the hell?

[MisterBowfinger]

What the hell?

Cstroman here using MB's id.

What he means is if you have a differing opinion, not only will those with dissenting opinions flame you, but you'll get some whiny bitch who just because they don't agree with YOUR post, will report you to the moderators. (where if someone posts what they Likey likey although just exactly the opposite of the original post, they keep their lips shut)

See, that's the problem. You have to agree or the whiny bitches will report you as "offending them" even though you don't post anything attacking them, etc.

Anyways, they're just opinions and like assholes we all have one (some have TWO! even) and we all have the right to post them.

You love Michael Moore and think Bush is a shithead? Great. I think Moore's an @sshole and this is why....

"Oh ur teh suxors. I wnt joo bannnd bekuz hez my gyro. Im reporrtin' joo two teh moderatorz. I'm offendind."

That's the problem.

Viva la Resistance!;)

Tolerance is sorely lacking from these boards.

[SLAW]

Originally posted by MisterBowfinger
Somehow it's not getting any better.

Cstroman got banned from the forum for bashing MM.

He didn't attack anyone on this forum directly (not that I see), but got banned because he didn't like MM.

I thought his posts were funny and the only time he was serious was in the Fahrenhiet 911 thread, but so were others.

I just don't see why he was censored and others not.

I'm a lurker, but people posting on the same thread he did that were just as bad, if not worse, are still around, while he's not.

Just be warned. If you opinion is not shared by the general audience of posters here, expect to be flamed and then banned.

Cstroman is a very obnoxious rude poster. If his point of view is that everyone is an idiot because they see things a different way, then yes, that is a good enough reason to get banned. He is now on my ignore list because his posts were obsessive rants stating the same things over and over again.

BTW, it's against the rules here to use (or for that matter create) other users ID's.

[MisterBowfinger]

Cstroman is a very obnoxious rude poster.

That's a personal attack against him and also against the rules, but he's not a member anymore so bash away. :rolleyes:

If his point of view is that everyone is an idiot because they see things a different way, then yes, that is a good enough reason to get banned.

He says he never stated that in any of his posts, but he does claim he was flamed incessantly for having dissenting opinions.

Did he say or attack you in anyway? I don't know I'm just askin'

And I won't let him use my login anymore. I didn't know it was a rule.

[MisterBowfinger]

BTW, it's against the rules here to use (or for that matter create) other users ID's.

SLAW would you mind showing me where it says that? I read the FAQ as soon as I joined a few months back and didn't remember seeing a rule like you described above.

Would you mind showing me where it is?

Thanks.

[SkyNet]

ya... i just recently found out that 2 of our more established members have a problem with ppl's opinions!


I cant understand telling someone they are wrong because they express an opinion that is different from their own.. it makes no sense to me!

If someone thinks one way and i think another i dont be a dick to them... if it is important enough i just try and throw a good argument back their way in a respectful mannor

some ppl need to realize this is the mother fucking INTERNET

[SLAW]

Originally posted by MisterBowfinger
SLAW would you mind showing me where it says that? I read the FAQ as soon as I joined a few months back and didn't remember seeing a rule like you described above.

Would you mind showing me where it is?

Thanks.

I know JoBlo has said it a number of times. If you'd like I can have him tell you himself?

[Cronos]

Originally posted by bigred760
Actually, I got those quotes from posters on Joblo.com

thats what i thought

[Jon Lyrik]

Cstroman here using MB's id.

What he means is if you have a differing opinion, not only will those with dissenting opinions flame you, but you'll get some whiny bitch who just because they don't agree with YOUR post, will report you to the moderators. (where if someone posts what they Likey likey although just exactly the opposite of the original post, they keep their lips shut)

See, that's the problem. You have to agree or the whiny bitches will report you as "offending them" even though you don't post anything attacking them, etc.

Anyways, they're just opinions and like assholes we all have one (some have TWO! even) and we all have the right to post them.

You love Michael Moore and think Bush is a shithead? Great. I think Moore's an @sshole and this is why....

"Oh ur teh suxors. I wnt joo bannnd bekuz hez my gyro. Im reporrtin' joo two teh moderatorz. I'm offendind."

That's the problem.

Viva la Resistance!

Tolerance is sorely lacking from these boards.

If anybody responded to my post, I was going to PM a reply.

Now I won't even bother debunking this, other than this shit's getting tired.

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If this drags on, plz.

[MisterBowfinger]

I know JoBlo has said it a number of times. If you'd like I can have him tell you himself?

Hey I'm new here so all I read was the FAQ and then the Forum Rules and I didn't remember seeing it there so if Joblo posted it somewhere else, how was I to know?

If your chums with him, that's fine, I'll take your word for it.

But if the way you responded is the kind of treatment new people receive here, I'm leaving.

I don't know why Cstro stuck around.

[Mog]

I for one enjoyed Cstro's posts, especially when it came to Michael "If Kerry Gets Elected I'm Getting All The Credit WOOHOO" Moore. He provided very well thought-out conservative counters to the ABUNDANCE of liberal arguments that really were just completely idiotic to begin with. Not to mention how helpful he was in the Filmmaking/Screenwriting board. I for one will miss him.

Rock on Cstro. Rock on.

As far as opinions go? I've noticed that a lot of posts (not going to name any) really aren't that different from IMDb posts. The only difference is that people on IMDb don't use spellcheck or a thesaurus.

[Damned Martian]

Originally posted by bigred760
"Why you people thought this film was brilliant is beyond me." I've used this sentece some times. The question is, what if you REALLY don't understand it? Because there are some films that I don't like, but I can see what people may see in them. but there are others whose belovement escapes me.

I can understand what some people see in Kill Bill.

I can kinda understand what some people see Glory.

I can hardly understand what lots of people see in Almost Famous.

But can not understand, and I've tried it, what people see in His Girl Friday.

From all those films, KB is the one I hate the most. I don't even dislike AF (just think it's a mere average film). But the question is that the high regards people treat them with seem uncomprehensible to me. It's not that I don't respect their opinion, it's just that I can't see where they CAN find that "thing" that makes a film a masterpiece, moreso when the film is universally beloved.

[C-Desecration-]

I checked out that imdb and the rottentomatoes forums, and it's SO easy to tell the difference between them and this. So easy. Not only are people here pretty relaxed, but the discussions are all interesting with at least a few people occupying different sides and (usually) refraining from bickering.

Joblo.com is an incredibly mellow site.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Damned Martian
I've used this sentece some times. The question is, what if you REALLY don't understand it? Because there are some films that I don't like, but I can see what people may see in them. but there are others whose belovement escapes me.

I can understand what some people see in Kill Bill.

I can kinda understand what some people see Glory.

I can hardly understand what lots of people see in Almost Famous.

But can not understand, and I've tried it, what people see in His Girl Friday.

From all those films, KB is the one I hate the most. I don't even dislike AF (just think it's a mere average film). But the question is that the high regards people treat them with seem uncomprehensible to me. It's not that I don't respect their opinion, it's just that I can't see where they CAN find that "thing" that makes a film a masterpiece, moreso when the film is universally beloved.

That's what I'm saying, it's just an opinion. Nobody's putting a gun to your head and saying you have to like these movies. So you're in the minority of those that didn't like Almost Famous and His Girl Friday (I haven't seen either), so what? Don't put people down by saying "you people" because you hated the movies and they liked them.

I see elements of movies that I thought were cool. Usually I explain the reasons why I thought they were "brilliant." You didn't think so . . . fine . . . more power to you.

[Damned Martian]

Originally posted by bigred760
That's what I'm saying, it's just an opinion. Nobody's putting a gun to your head and saying you have to like these movies. So you're in the minority of those that didn't like Almost Famous and His Girl Friday (I haven't seen either), so what? Don't put people down by saying "you people" because you hated the movies and they liked them. But my point is that I'm in no way implying that I don't respect their opinions, it's just that I'm curious to understand why I'm in the minority, since the normal thing is to be in the average. I can see the way certain films can be liked by others while I hate them, but there are especific cases where the praise is unbelievable to me. It's not a question of respect, but of understanding. Maybe there was something I missed, or an approach that didn't come to my mind.

So, the point here is that that precise sentence is not annoying for me. Now, the other ones are another thing (over all the third one, which is highly deserving of a sentence of 3 months posting in RT's forums).

[Trinity]

Originally posted by Damned Martian
But can not understand, and I've tried it, what people see in His Girl Friday.
Let me help you out then.;) It's got fantastic dialogue (and the frantic pace and overlapping way it is delivered means you can get a lot of laughs out of it the first time and still have lots to discover the second time you see it), it's got Gary Grant's greatest performance - one of pure unhinged comedic brilliance, and it's got an equally great and very sexy Rosalind Russell. HGF is what great screwball is all about.

[Damned Martian]

Originally posted by Trinity
Let me help you out then.;) It's got fantastic dialogue (and the frantic pace and overlapping way it is delivered means you can get a lot of laughs out of it the first time and still have lots to discover the second time you see it), it's got Gary Grant's greatest performance - one of pure unhinged comedic brilliance, and it's got an equally great and very sexy Rosalind Russell. HGF is what great screwball is all about. THAT'S what I don't understand. Because the acting floats - it's that wooden. The worst I've seen in any old classic so far (not counting Ed-Wood-like films). And the script has not a single line I found brilliant. I read the lines and I think "lame... lame... stupid... typical... lame... unimasginative... childish... lame..." and so on. So it's that what I find hard to understand - the mere fact that I'm so unable to see anything great in the so-called "best screwball film ever". I don't understand what's the edge of this film over, for instance, Bringing Up Baby. Or Arsenic and Old Lace. Or The Philadelphia Story, for that matter (a film that anyway I also found kinda overrated). What makes this film that different from those others that makes me unable to appreciate its "brilliance" (according to the vast majority of people) when I'm able to spot the brilliance in films of similar genre?

Not that it makes me insomniac or that I really care much, but it's the source of the use of the sentence in my case.

[Trinity]

Originally posted by Damned Martian
THAT'S what I don't understand. Because the acting floats - it's that wooden. The worst I've seen in any old classic so far (not counting Ed-Wood-like films). And the script has not a single line I found brilliant. I read the lines and I think "lame... lame... stupid... typical... lame... unimasginative... childish... lame..." and so on. So it's that what I find hard to understand - the mere fact that I'm so unable to see anything great in the so-called "best screwball film ever". I don't understand what's the edge of this film over, for instance, Bringing Up Baby. Or Arsenic and Old Lace. Or The Philadelphia Story, for that matter (a film that anyway I also found kinda overrated). What makes this film that different from those others that makes me unable to appreciate its "brilliance" (according to the vast majority of people) when I'm able to spot the brilliance in films of similar genre?

Not that it makes me insomniac or that I really care much, but it's the source of the use of the sentence in my case.
Well, I don't think anyone is putting this films above the others you mentioned. And certainly not above "Bringing Up Baby" and "It Happened One Night" which are, I believe, the only screwball comedies that appear on the AFI's top 100. I don't think it's the greatest one either - I can think of at least 3-4 I definitely like more, and another couple of dozen I like as much. So it's just one of the greats. As for your thinking the dialogue was lame and not funny - well, I can understand that, comedy is after all a very subjective thing. But it is typical screwball, so I am puzzled how you would like other films of the genre and not this one.


Sorry for getting off-topic here.