MetallicA: Some Kinda Monster

[DesiccanT]

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I saw it last night, it was great. A bit too long but very entertaining. It was such a revelation for me to see James and Lars and Kirk spill their guts on the screen. I just didn't like the fact that they sort of present Jason as a bad guy, but that's just me.www.somekindofmonster.com/desktops/james/james_1024x768.jpg

[NuclearMisfit]

If anything Lars is the really the "badguy" of the group, he really made Metallica into sort of a corporate lacky after he sued napsters for the loss of royalties. I guess Jason was just fed up with their shit. I dont hate Metallica I just hate Lars.

[Sigur509]

I am not a fan of Metallica, I hate Lars, but I respect Kirk and James.

[Fisting Ackbar]

In honor of Lars Ulrich I shall download this movie :D

But seriously, I'm not a Metallica fan but maybe I'll end up renting this.

[the humble narrator]

what a piece of shit this was, just kidding.
A very good movie. I enjoyed it evcen though I am not a fan of the band and disliked the whole band except James, and he even seemed like an asshole at times. It is basically a diary of them going htrough a lot of band trouble and making the album.
7 or 8 / 10

[the humble narrator]

what a piece of shit this was, just kidding.
A very good movie. I enjoyed it evcen though I am not a fan of the band and disliked the whole band except James, and he even seemed like an asshole at times. It is basically a diary of them going htrough a lot of band trouble and making the album.
7 or 8 / 10

Canstandya, you son of a bitch. We seem to be the only to have seen it.

[gspawn]

This is one of those shitlist without needing to go to a theatre kind of films for me...

>Lars- Of the non-English-speaking persuasion, I've still never heard a decent drum riff from this guy. Does he have one? Did the fans he respects so much steal all his riffs off Napster? I really, really hate this guy.
>James- After denying the band "went soft" for however many years, enters rehab, adopts a chic new look, and starts preaching about life and family. Hm.
>Kirk- A guitar nerd at heart, but that would make him one of my people... from what I know he was at least always the "real" musician of the group. I remember seeing him on some Metallica special when I was flipping through channels, having some guy name any song he could think of from a couple bands, and he played them. Creepy, but dedicated.

When rock died, these guys were the depleted uranium shell that allowed it to penetrate so far past rock bottom before it imploded. If I saw this flick, I know I'd just wind up with a million more pounds of evidence to hate them with. I'll spare Metallica fans and not do that.

[Frank the Tank]

I will see this since I'm a big Metallica fan. Lars is the biggest douchebag in music. If James, Rob, and Kirk grew some balls and kicked him out of the band I'd be fucking happy. They really don't need Lars, since he really isn't a great drummer and they can get someone better than him like Dave Lombardo.

[Pvt. Joker]

What's up with all the hate being directed toward Lars? They can't kick him out of the band, he and James founded the band so just imagine the legal battle that would ensue. I do find the guy to be a bit of a dork but shit he was an awesome drummer, not one of the greatest but he is awesome. I started listening to Metallica when I was in grade 3, I had to fight with my parents for years to buy me a tape (yes I said tape). As nerdy as I think he might be I've been a fan for so damn long I can't hate the guy. Lars, James, Kirk and Cliff are gods in metal, period the other members that came to Metallica just serve a purpose.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally posted by Pvt. Joker
What's up with all the hate being directed toward Lars? They can't kick him out of the band, he and James founded the band so just imagine the legal battle that would ensue. I do find the guy to be a bit of a dork but shit he was an awesome drummer, not one of the greatest but he is awesome.

I'm just dreaming that that would happen. They could get a better drummer than Lars. I think Lars is the reason we got St. Anger, as well as their drastic style change in 96. I think if Lars got kicked out of the band in 93 or 94 their legacy would remain untouchable, they wouldn't be a joke like they are basically now to most of the metal community. Also, they'd still be playing amazing metal songs, instead of decent hard rock songs like on the Loads or crappy nu-metal songs on St. Anger.

[Pvt. Joker]

Originally posted by Frank the Tank
I think Lars is the reason we got St. Anger, as well as their drastic style change in 96. I think if Lars got kicked out of the band in 93 or 94 their legacy would remain untouchable, they wouldn't be a joke like they are basically now to most of the metal community. Also, they'd still be playing amazing metal songs, instead of decent hard rock songs like on the Loads or crappy nu-metal songs on St. Anger.

I'm not sure if he's the reason all together. I watched an interview
with Lars and James, they both agreed in 91 that they needed a change and that it was time to stop playing the marathon metal songs.

The only problem is they did the black album, which was a huge change from thier other albums and it did well. So they continued to work with the same producer and tried to go in the same direction and came out with the ever so crappy Load.

From what I hear after that they were trying to get a style of music named Metallica....what a fucking ego trip that is. That's what lead to the S&M albums.....or at least that's what I heard.

I think the reason why they suck now is because they are trying to copy their success with the Black album, but it's not going to happen.

What needs to happen is they need to go back to the studio and sit down and write some of the old songs that got them all the underground fans....the true fans. That's their roots andif they don't go and change that then they will never go back to being the way they were....they'll just continue to suck. But I still continue to jam thier old albums till I'm old and grey, no matter what.

One thing your definently right about is that their new shit is crappy.

[Underground]

Didn't know movie fans wanted to review music

Few bands get better over time and after a member dies most GOOD band quit. In respect to the great Cliff Burton this is what should have happend. Cliff was the originally the band needed and the reason they had good music for the first three albums. Before Cliff came along they were nothing, fitting that a band breaking new ground would change dramaticly follow him leaving.

Saying that any of them besides Cliff had anything to do with the quality of the music can be contradicted easily by listening to the albums. As they move to a more pop sounding songs with the black album trying to be more hip, now, or mainstreem. And yes he was part of the recording of in justice for all.

Proof is right there in the albums, without the input or inspiration Cliff brang to the band they are just a bunch of recovering drunks with there best days behind them.

[Nachokoolaid]

I like Metallica, and I enjoy St. Anger. I can't wait for their next album. And Underground, welcome to the boards.

[SkyNet]

my movie theater near me has this movie listed as they were going to get a copy... i called n called n called.. they have yet to get a copy! I may have to wait for DVD.. i believe James has said expect 2 versions... a first cut dvd and than a multi disk sepc ed later on.

Everyone knows that Metallica is my fav band.... and im not one of them types of people to say everyone is wrong and im right! Sooo everyone thats hates Metallica... more power to ya! (but i just want that same respect in my love for them)... and even though they are my fav band... i can totally see where Underground is coming from when he says when Cliff passed away he lost touch with their music.... but i still loved em. I fel that their music has maybe changed a lil.. but has ALWAYS in the end had that METALLICA feel that NO other band will ever achieve! I believe the whole Napster deal got BLOWN out of proportion.,.. i mean METALLICA werent the only bands sueing! they were just the ones with the balls to bring the fight to the front door!

Arguing about Metallica can be almost as heated as arguing about Michael Moore or President Crap ( i mean Bush)

as for Some Kind of Monster... i fucking cant wait to see this flick... i know alot of the story... but this flick will pry make me love the band that much more! I know the reason Newsted left the band is cuz Metallica was taking long breaks between playing.. and newsted loves to play.. so he wanted to start his side project.. but James didnt allow that... gave him the ultimadem(SP??) and newsted chose to play rather than not! I respect him for that decision totally!

in the end: I love Metallica... i loved St. Anger... and i look forward to any project they put out in the future!

And for any other Metallica lovers:

Best Buy has LIVE SHIT: BINGE & PURGE on sale for $25.. that is fuckin HALF PRICE! Normal price is $50... i bought it today! (3 cd's... 2 dvd's... from 1989...1992..1993.. kick ass live set!

[Badbird]

Of course music should never evolve. Metallica should do what we tell them to do. They sould write the exact same music they were writiing in 1982. They shouldn't make videos or movies because that's "selling out." In fact, they shold dump Electra and stop recording music since the only reason to record music is to make money (money = sell out), so they should just play little clubs that only fit 100 people just like in 1982 and should only play material from Kill em All, Ride the Lightning, and Puppets, because Metallica ceased to exist after Cliff died.

Blah, blah, blah.

People have been saying this crap for 13 years now. You know what, Metallica is just a metal band, like any other metal band. They just happen to be the most popular of all metal bands. If Metallica is a sell out, then so is every single metal band on any major or widely distributed label, IE most of the entire music industry. Grow up. You don't like their new stuff, fine, go back and listen to Puppets again, just knock it off with all that coperate sell out bullshit cause it's not getting old, it's already ancient history.

I for one like all their stuff after Ride the Lightning. I think Load is their best work to date. When you've loved and followed a band for over a decade and seen them evolve, you can apreciate the transformation made. Because if bands don't evolve, they grow stagnant, like AC/DC, where every single album sounds the same, even after twenty years. Who wants that?

Some Kind of Monster isn't that huge of a revalation if you've seen their earlier videos of "A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica" that came out after the black album. You can pretty much see everything coming.

That said, it is still very good, and moving in a way. It's essentailly the James and Lars show. Kirk and Bob Rock don't get enough screen time if you ask me. But after spending so much time with them, you can see how poisonous their world has become simply because they never comunicated, and watching these guys, who are just three long time friends, finally reach out to each other in some way really makes you feel for them.

But Lars is a dick in the movie. I don't think he really "got" what he needed. If anything he's the one that needs rehab more than anybody. The scene with Dave Mustain and him is just so sad to watch because Dave is pouring his heart out and all his pain that he feels on an emotional level and Lars is just like "Whatever."

Poor Dave Mustain. He needs thearpy more than Metallica did.

To me the movie was mostly about James transformation, with Lars playing the villain, impeading his progress whenever possible. I can see how non fans could be so blown away by this movie, but if you're at all familier with Metallica's story, it's nothing groundbreaking. But it is still very good and cathartic to see.

[Pvt. Joker]

Originally posted by Badbird
Blah, blah, blah.

People have been saying this crap for 13 years now. You know what, Metallica is just a metal band, like any other metal band. They just happen to be the most popular of all metal bands. If Metallica is a sell out, then so is every single metal band on any major or widely distributed label, IE most of the entire music industry. Grow up. You don't like their new stuff, fine, go back and listen to Puppets again, just knock it off with all that coperate sell out bullshit cause it's not getting old, it's already ancient history.

I for one like all their stuff after Ride the Lightning. I think Load is their best work to date. When you've loved and followed a band for over a decade and seen them evolve, you can apreciate the transformation made. Because if bands don't evolve, they grow stagnant, like AC/DC, where every single album sounds the same, even after twenty years. Who wants that?


I loved all Metallica put out up until the Load came out. But I figured it to be a bump in the road. Then they put out Re-load, I chalked this up to pretty much the same thing. S & M came out, if I wanted to listen to Metallica being played by an orchestra then I would play my cd of Apocilyptica. Then Garage Inc. and St. Anger felt as thoguh they weren't even trying. We, their fans, have been begging for a return to thier old style of longer songs, more complicated song structures and faster tempos. They have become a rock band not a heavy metal band.

Metallica these days they are just trying to copy their success from the Black Album and I for one wish they would stop. I wish they would drop their egos and start playing the old music so many of us fell in love with so long ago. This band is nothing that the old Metallica was, it's boring, bland and sounds like forced vomit on cd.

You may think that what everyone has been saying is crap and for the most part not allowing a band to evolve would be selfish. But they've had thier time and now it's our time. The one's who bought thier old cd's when our parents said we couldn't.

Hell, 99% of fans want the old Metallica back. Even those who discovered them after the release of the Back Album and started listening to thier old stuff agree that it's better. All I want is one damn album like they used to play, that's all most want, it's not that much to ask for.

[HHH123007]

On topic....

I loved the movie.

8/10.

[Hot-Handed Fury]

If you're a long-time fan of Metallica then this movie will contain absolutely zero surprises for you.

Its a very well-made documentary, but it kinda bored me a little since almost every scene in this movie has been well documented on Metallica's website forums, and other misc. news sites.

I just wish there was more Dave Mustaine stuff; He and Lars actually requested the filmmakers to turn off the cameras during their meeting when it got too "emotional". After Mustaine saw the film, he told the press that he thought the movie portrayed him in a bad light. He then talked about making Lars cry and leave the room to go cry in the bathroom or some nonsense...

Anyway, everything Pre-Black album is the best Metallica stuff. ...And Justice for All is a metal masterpiece. They need to fucking remix it and add the bass guitar back in(poor Jason, he really got screwed over here). Other than the extremely shitty production, Justice is awesome.

[The Heart Collector]

Originally posted by Badbird
Of course music should never evolve.

I expect bands to evolve, not to turn into crap.

[Underground]

"Of course music should never evolve. Metallica should do what we tell them to do. They sould write the exact same music they were writiing in 1982. They shouldn't make videos or movies because that's "selling out." In fact, they shold dump Electra and stop recording music since the only reason to record music is to make money (money = sell out), so they should just play little clubs that only fit 100 people just like in 1982 and should only play material from Kill em All, Ride the Lightning, and Puppets, because Metallica ceased to exist after Cliff died.
Blah, blah, blah"
-backbird

I was just commenting on how metallica's downfall had nothing to do with alcohol(which is a theme in the movie), and to do with Cliff's death.

Cliff em All, has a lot of footage you should see