Vanilla Sky opens today! What did you think?

[FlickJunkie]

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Of course, I'm asking you all to tell us what you think without spoiling anything. I was going to see it this afternoon at the 3:50 showing (Friday Dec. 14) but instead I'm now going to see it on Sunday night (Dec. 16) at like the 7:00 showing. I can't wait to see it. This is one of my most anticipated movies of the season and I've been wanting to see it since I saw the trailer for it when I went to see 13 Ghosts early last month.

I think it looks amazing, everyone in the movie looks great. Especially Cameron Diaz, and yes even Penelope Cruz, who I have no problem with.

So, yea, just tell us what you thought about it.

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[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Sorry for so quick of a "review" but I have got to go. In a word: unimpressive. Cameron Crowe did a very mediocre job on this film. I missed a little of the beggining, but I doubt that would matter much.

[FlickJunkie]

What would you grade it? Over at IMDb it's got an average of 6.5/10 with 89 votes and most of the votes in the 9/10 range. Once more votes come in, it will even out more. I still can't wait to see it...

[ICFBC2001]

I liked it a good deal, actually, although I'm not going to do anything so melodramatic and incorrect as proclaim it the best film of the year. What follows is a collection of seemingly-random thoughts I've had on the film. I plan to have a full review ready over the next couple of days, just in case anyone cares.

Cameron Crowe does a decent job both with the screenplay -- the characters are much stronger here than in "Abre los Ojos," for one, although I do believe the ending is just a little too over-explained while still not really saying anything -- and with the direction, and while it's not perfect it IS comforting to know that he won't necessarily have to keep making "Almost Famous" and "Jerry Maguire" over and over again for the next twenty years.

Liked the acting, particularly Cameron Diaz. Julie is a more developed character than Nuria in the original, I think, and Diaz is more than capable. Cruise and Cruz are each good on their own, and the chemistry between them is actually rather palpable at times. Jason Lee is still the Man.

In the words of one of the patrons upon exiting the theaters, "It kept you glued."

I did have two main problems with it: the soundtrack is great, but -- with the exception of Joan Osbourne's "One of Us" during a key dramatic scene -- it's not the right kind of soundtrack for this film. Also, it could stand to lose about twenty minutes of film somewhere along the way.

Other than that... As I say, it's pretty good. And I apologize for the random and chaotic nature of this post, but I'm a little preoccupied with other things at the moment. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Score: 8/10, 4/5, and so on

--Brian

[bob]

I have three questions about the flick(and please, positively no spoilers at all)

1. do any of the chicks get naked http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif
2. How big is Jason Lee's role in the film?
3. Is it as twisty turny as the previews make it look?

[ICFBC2001]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">1. do any of the chicks get naked
2. How big is Jason Lee's role in the film?
3. Is it as twisty turny as the previews make it look? </font>

1. Briefly, yeah. And there're a couple of sex scenes, too. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

2. Not all that big. His is a supporting role, and I'd say he's got about a half-hour of screen time, give or take five minutes. But then, I thought that the full 135 minutes of the film shot by quickly, so I may not be the best judge of that.

3. Maybe moreso, actually.

Hope that helps a little.

--Brian

[FlickJunkie]

Yes, it does ICFBC2001... Thanks!

[ParileseMonster]

Im not too impressed with what I have heard and read about this movie. Sounds like a bunch of crap Ive already seen before. I hate it when a string of movies come out and they are all similar or with the same kind of premise. It gets boring after awhile. I also hate how Tom Cruise plays the same kind of roles or the same kind of guy. No versatality at all, just the same thing. He is not all that he is cracked up to be, not by a damn long shot! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

[Puck Bond]

Vanilla Sky 9/10...

Vanilla Sky is an amazing movie and I was mesmerized. This film hooked me from the get go and it never let up! Due to the nature of the film, I will try my best not give away much in my little review. But I can say Tom Cruise gives one of his best performances ever...and to be honest I think has turned himself into a pretty decent actor. The supporting cast is great too...having seen Penelope Cruz in other films, I thought her accent would annoy me but she comes off very good in this film. She really showed me something with this role. Cameron Diaz and Jason Lee are also good in their smaller but key roles. At times this film is absolutely brilliant and at other times is muddled and a bit confusing...This film is a wild, inventive departure from Crowe's other more soft-hearted films, but it is great. Vanilla Sky if nothing else is very interesting, it still had me thinking about it some time after I saw it.

[dh1989]

Note http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gifon't worry no spoilers. I believe that this film should not be spoiled.


Title: Vannila Sky

Cast: Tom Cruise, Penelope Cruz, Cameron Diaz, Jason Lee, and Tilda Swinton

Director: Cameron Crowe(Almost Famous)

Written by Cameron Crowe

Rating 9/10


This was a genius movie. It grabbed you and shook you through all kinds weird dreams and realities. There are some huge suprises and awesome scenes. The ending is unbelievable. If anyone thinks they can guess this ending they can't. It is beyond "memento" or "The Sixth Sense". It was just crazy. It sort of becamse sci-fi at the end but you'll love it. And the acting is top notch. This is not the Tom Cruise we know. He is not a complete goofy romantic or a cocky brave pilot but a disturbed disfigured soul. The supporting cast like Lee, Diaz, Cruz, and Swinton back him up with mysterious and some likable and some not roles. The direction was good. And the score was great with things like Mcartney and RADIOHEAD. Thats all I'll say because I don't want to give it away. But my advice is see this movie and feel the experience. If "LOTR" can grab you like this movie it too will be a modern classic.

[ClockworkOrange#1]

I saw this movie today and i would give it an 8/10. While not in the same league as Abre Los Ojos, there are many things that are better. For one, Jason Lee is great. A much better character than the one in Abre Los Ojos. Kurt Russell turned in a good performance as did Cameron Diaz, but her laugh is kind of annoying. I really don't understand peoples hatred toward Penelope Cruz. Maybe its cause I think she is gorgeous, but I like her films. While not as good as her role in the original her acting is still solid. I love her accent. Can't forget Tom Cruise though. While many of the reviews say you can't sympathize with his character cause he is too cold, I really didn't care. The film's plot was more than enough to hold my attention even though I knew what would happen next. There are also many parts that are funny and lighten the movie at times. Cameron Crowe is one of the best directors working today and his direction in Vanilla Sky is a lot different than his previous work. As usual Crowe and his wife show they really know how to pick great music to go along with scenes especially when Peter Gabriel's "Solsbury Hill" is played during the scene where Cruz and Cruise are drawing eachothers portrait. One complaint that I have with the film is that it runs on a little too long. If about 20 minutes was cut from the film it would have been much better. There were times when I was anticipating what was going to happen only to have some scenes dragged out too long. Overall though, I liked the film quite a bit and I recommend seeing it even if you saw Abre Los Ojos.

[ICFBC2001]

Since I'm still cruising around this topic and offering thoughts, why not some more? http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I saw this movie today and i would give it an 8/10. While not in the same league as Abre Los Ojos, there are many things that are better. For one, Jason Lee is great. A much better character than the one in Abre Los Ojos. </font>

I would actually have to agree, here. I think Crowe's characterizations in this film actually surpass those of Abre Los Ojos, especially the Cameron Diaz/Najwa Nimri role and excluding Dr. McCabe.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Kurt Russell turned in a good performance as did Cameron Diaz, but her laugh is kind of annoying. I really don't understand peoples hatred toward Penelope Cruz. Maybe its cause I think she is gorgeous, but I like her films. While not as good as her role in the original her acting is still solid. I love her accent.</font>

I think Diaz gives the best performance in this film, simultaneously frightening, sympathetic, wounded, and vicious. It's a hard balance to strike, but I think she nails it right on the head.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Can't forget Tom Cruise though. While many of the reviews say you can't sympathize with his character cause he is too cold, I really didn't care.</font>

I think he's somewhat warmer than his progenitor in Abre Los Ojos, actually. But what do I know?

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The film's plot was more than enough to hold my attention even though I knew what would happen next. There are also many parts that are funny and lighten the movie at times. Cameron Crowe is one of the best directors working today and his direction in Vanilla Sky is a lot different than his previous work.</font>

Crowe's involvement -- the humor and the additional characterization -- give the film a personality different enough from the original that permits even the biggest fans of Abre to leave the theater contented and not feeling like they've wasted their money.

To sort of run with an analogy taken from the film, the sweet parts here are sweeter than those in Amenábar's film, and the sour parts are even more sour. And yet... It's still not quite as good. Go figure.

I'm also not so sure that it's as different from Cameron Crowe's prior output as one might expect... If you take Vanilla Sky and refract it through a mental funhouse mirror, the film really starts to resemble Jerry Maguire.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">As usual Crowe and his wife show they really know how to pick great music to go along with scenes especially when Peter Gabriel's "Solsbury Hill" is played during the scene where Cruz and Cruise are drawing eachothers portrait.</font>

I beg to differ. Most of the time I found Crowe's choice of music to be rather off-putting, notable exceptions the second usage of "One of Us" and -- maybe -- the R.E.M. tune.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> One complaint that I have with the film is that it runs on a little too long. If about 20 minutes was cut from the film it would have been much better. There were times when I was anticipating what was going to happen only to have some scenes dragged out too long. Overall though, I liked the film quite a bit and I recommend seeing it even if you saw Abre Los Ojos. </font>

Again, I would agree. If Crowe had chopped the bits about the Seven Dwarves out entirely, and edited half of the big speech at the end -- you know which one I mean -- the film as a whole would have been much stronger and, I think, somewhat better received.

All right, that's it: I'm not saying anything more on this topic until I actually get that bloody review finished.

--Brian

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[totemrepublic]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Puck Bond:
Vanilla Sky 9/10...

But I can say Tom Cruise gives one of his best performances ever...and to be honest I think has turned himself into a pretty decent actor. The supporting cast is great too...having seen Penelope Cruz in other films, I thought her accent would annoy me but she comes off very good in this film. She really showed me something with this role. Cameron Diaz and Jason Lee are also good in their smaller but key roles. At times this film is absolutely brilliant and at other times is muddled and a bit confusing...This film is a wild, inventive departure from Crowe's other more soft-hearted films, but it is great. Vanilla Sky if nothing else is very interesting, it still had me thinking about it some time after I saw it.</font>

absolutely http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif and a terrific soundtrack too

[HBO]

I was 100% disappointed by the film.
It wasnt a thing like the brillant trailer.
A majority of the time i was bored out of my mind and so everybody else there, a couple of people walked out.
It made sense yes but it was not worth my $5.25
Crowe tried to make it some into some new hip type of film but failed miserably.
Tom cruise & Jason Lee were good yes but everybody else sucked and Penelope Cruz & Cameron Diaz got annoying as hell.

The biggest disappointment of the year
3/10

Also this may have a big opening weekend (it was crowded when i saw it) but it will die faster than Osama Bin Laden when he is found.

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[Irene Manor]

I liked the flick quite a bit. The images were amazing, and so was the soundtrack. All of the acting worked for me, and the twist was good, but should have been panned out more through the movie.

Once again, Diaz shakes her rump with A+ results. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif


*********POSSIBLE SPOILER!!!!**********

Did this movie remind anyone of JACOBS LADDER.... A lot like JACOB'S LADDER?

[bskutle]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**:
Sorry for so quick of a "review" but I have got to go. In a word: unimpressive. Cameron Crowe did a very mediocre job on this film. I missed a little of the beggining, but I doubt that would matter much.</font>

Good sum-up. Trust me, you didn't miss much. Here's my review:

"Vanilla Sky"- B-
(#6 on Brian's "Must See" Fall 2001 List)
Oh, Cameron Crowe, why have you forsaken me? Although I have yet to see the original film, I can see what in the story compelled the "Almost Famous" Oscar winning writer-director and the star of his "Jerry Maguire"- Tom Cruise- to remake a 1997 Spanish thriller- entitled "Open Your Eyes"- with the help of the original film's star, Penelope Cruz (the new love of Cruise's life after he split with Nicole). The story of a successful playboy- known as "Citizen D*^@#"- whose life begins to unravel when he hits on Sofia (Cruz, oh so cute, but oh so incomprehensible with her English as well)- whom is really going out with his best friend (Jason Lee)- and rejects his former f*!$bunny Julie (a sizzling Cameron Diaz), and the latter presumably ends up dead, and Cruise ends up trying to put the pieces together with shrink Kurt Russell. To say any more would...well, to say any more would imply that I understood the movie, which is not really the case. I get it to a point, but in retrospect, there are contradictions in the story and final explanation that just don't fit together. It's muddled in a way I haven't seen since David Lynch's "Lost Highway," and trust me, that's saying something. Still, even if it doesn't succeed like one would hope, I'd say check it out anyway, if only to see Cruise- compelling if a bit cold- and Crowe take risks most high-profile stars and directors wouldn't dare in this day and age of demographics and simple-minded blockbusters, plus- as an extra, tiny bonus- to see the glorious Twin Towers of the World Trade Center on the big screen (albeit, not very up close) one last time. Like that image, the film will stay with you.

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[SirFritz]

Your review was too didactic. It's simple.
Vanilla Sky reeked. The writers had an original idea, and tried to make a cohesive ending.....but went to the most cliche'd, unoriginal ending, and pathetic ending.

The movie has no plot. The movie dulls you for 2.5 hours and then gives you nothing to walk away with, except pitiful hilarity towards the film.

As soon as I heard the opening song by Radiohead, I just KNEW this movie was going to be horrible. Like Radiohead, the movie tries so hard to be arty, but fails, when it gives no subtleties and....Nevermind, the ending is soooo bad, I just can't over it. A.I., Total Recall, and some portions of the MATRIX, compile them all in the worst possible fashion, and you have Vanilla. Why did these people decide to remake such a HORRIBLE plot?

[FlickJunkie]

This'll be a little short review until I think about it better. I just want to get my view across...

Vanilla Sky

I just got back from seeing Vanilla Sky. I was going to go tomorrow night at 7:00 (Dec 16), but instead I went tonight at the 10:05 showing (Dec 15).

I must say I liked it a lot. It's much weirder and different then the commercials make it out to be. I still liked it though. The performances were great. All 5ive leads did an amazing job (Cruise, Cruz, Diaz, Lee, & Russell). Tom Cruise still deserves to be nominated for Best Actor, but since it's getting mixed reviews, he most likely wont. I have a whole new respect for him and Penelope Cruz. I too thought she was overrated but I really liked her in this film. I felt sorry for her when I was supposed to and I was happy for her when I supposed to. Cameron Diaz did an outstanding job being a bad girl in this movie.

It turns out to be more of a fantasy film actually. And it is a "thinking" film. I need to see it again because of course these fuckin teenagers sat around us and were farting and laughing about it and their cell phones kept going off. They were about my age too (18) but I still hate fucking teenagers.

Anyway, this will not make a lot of money. It's a big-budget art film starring Tom Cruise in a role not like any of his others. I rate it an 8/10. I would recommend seeing it, but keep an open mind.

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[Narst]

I liked it a lot. It was very confusing and felt extremely long but I still thought it was very good. Tom Cruise was excellent and I'm full of respect for him taking this role especially because of all those disfigurment scenes.

But I must say that the soundtrack was just unbelievably great. In the beginning of the movie I thought that the music was a bit of a distraction and upstaged the action on screen but by the time I reached the end of this epic I realized how crucial the music was. If nothing else, the music really helped set this picture apart from everything else. Cameron Crowe makes some very unusual and strange choices in the songs that worked perfectly for me. When most movies would simply revert back to a dramatic score, Crowe pulls out fare like REM and The Beach Boys. Some of my favorite music scenes were the use of Good Vibrations during a pivotal scene right near the conclusion, that "Can We Stil Be Friends" song after one of the more disturbing scenes in the film and the part with What If God Was One Of Us was absolutley hillarious.

I'm still extremely confused by it and agree that it definatly felt like a 4 hour movie but I apploud their effort. Just the fact that Tom Cruise and Cameron Crowe had the guts to make this film impresses me. It's not as good as Fight Club but on a level it bears a resemblance in the way it was big budgeted but will most likely bomb in the theaters. I don't think it has as much cult appeal as Fight Club but I hope it will acquire a strong and steady following in the future.

[amnesia]

Indeed, I thought the movie was, if nothing else, unique when I initially saw it. However, there are so many nuances, so many underlying themes decorated throughout the story, it's hard not to acquire a taste for Vanilla Sky. I came across a startling theory today that might help quell the confusion [or otherwise make me look like a complete idiot]. We learn that David Aames signed a contract with some new age science corporation which enables him to be frozen and to have his dreams dictate his life [that he really isn't living]. Then, we learn, somehow a nightmare occured in his dream and thus, he was sent to jail. However, if his whole life is one big dream, a life that he's dreaming, why the HELL would the company who froze him and is allowing him to continue his life in his dreams, be in his dream world? Thus, I believe that the whole thing of him being frozen and signing a contract with some preposterous company was like every other dream he had, influenced by pop-culture [in this case, the time he watched Banky the dog or whatever return to life on that interview]. At the end, Sofia is urging him to "open his eyes." Therefore, it was all a dream, he wakes up in the end realizing this, and the group of people whom he signed that wacky contract with was yet another nightmare. Phew! Ok, done. Any questions?

[meltingman]

A very good film. I hadn't seen Abre Los Ojos, so I wasn't familiar with the plot. Very disturbing, and dark, with many plot twists. I was very happy to see this film at least once. I saw this film last night and have been thinking about it all day today. I know several people saw Eyes Wide Shut and thought it was awful, but I really enjoyed that film as well also featuring Tom Cruise in an unorthodox role. Vanilla Sky is cerebral and shocking, well, I put it in the winners column. Great acting, directing and thoughtful subject matter. An experience.

[dolemite 451]

**Minor Spoilers**

I thought the film was very good. It did a wonderful job of making you feel what Tom Cruise was going through. Like when he looks in the mirror and screams; how horrible was that. After all he'd been through, then he goes backwards. I felt a lot of sympathy for his character. I wasn't a big fan of the ending, however, because it made a little too much sense. I think it seemed like the easy way out. It turned it from a thinking movie into a sci-fi movie.

[dolemite 451]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by amnesia:
Indeed, I thought the movie was, if nothing else, unique when I initially saw it. However, there are so many nuances, so many underlying themes decorated throughout the story, it's hard not to acquire a taste for Vanilla Sky. I came across a startling theory today that might help quell the confusion [or otherwise make me look like a complete idiot]. We learn that David Aames signed a contract with some new age science corporation which enables him to be frozen and to have his dreams dictate his life [that he really isn't living]. Then, we learn, somehow a nightmare occured in his dream and thus, he was sent to jail. However, if his whole life is one big dream, a life that he's dreaming, why the HELL would the company who froze him and is allowing him to continue his life in his dreams, be in his dream world? Thus, I believe that the whole thing of him being frozen and signing a contract with some preposterous company was like every other dream he had, influenced by pop-culture [in this case, the time he watched Banky the dog or whatever return to life on that interview]. At the end, Sofia is urging him to "open his eyes." Therefore, it was all a dream, he wakes up in the end realizing this, and the group of people whom he signed that wacky contract with was yet another nightmare. Phew! Ok, done. Any questions?</font>

I think you are wrong, because there is not enough evidence to suggest that it is another dream. The ending wraps everything up nicely, and explains everything, so why go that far to explain it then in the last 3 seconds of the movie give you another explanation? There just isn't enough evidence that it is a dream.

[idealdiscountdude]

Vanilla Sky

"Open Your Eyes"

Cameron Crowe has managed to create one helluva confusing film. Based on a Spanish film from 1997 called "Open Your Eyes" (English Translation), which I have yet to see, Crowe has managed to enthrall me yet confuse me at the same time. For most of the film I had no clue what was going on.

That's not to say that Vanilla Sky is a very good film nor a bad film.

Crowe's direction was astonishing as always. I loved how his direction seems so personal, just as in Almost Famous, you get up close and personal with the characters.

The acting was fantastic with one exception. Jason Lee was hilarious as David Aames best friend and confidant. Cameron Diaz was so good that she was scary (literally) as Julianna Gianni, David's "fuck-buddy"; her eyes and grin were on the border of psychotic! Tilda Swinton in a very brief and pivotal role was her usual great and glassy self. Kurt Russell as David's psychologist is back in business, nice to see him in a movie again. Penelope Cruz stunned me. As you guys know I'm not a fan of her's however here in Vanilla Sky, she was AMAZING!!!! As Sofia, Ms.Cruz showed so much depth and emotion that I truly felt for her. I was impressed. She "opened my eyes" in this film.

In the acting department my only beef was with Mr.Tom Cruise himself. He was yet another self-absorbed good looking rich guy. He was decent in the film but I did not believe him as David AAmes. All I saw was Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise.

The screenplay was very witty and emotional at the same time, the editing was great, the makeup was fantastic!

Vanilla Sky is a good film and could have been great if it wasn't for its poposterous ending. The film is very confusing, you will have no clue what's going on at all. At the end however, you will realize it as you "Open Your Eyes".

7/10

[SteveSzyk]

VANILLA SKY is no OPEN YOUR EYES, but it sure is a great film. It starts off as a cute romantic story, that actually did have me interested. And then suddenly it changes. It becomes a freaky, creepy, confusing, strange, and great story. Some scenes were just downright scary, and the makeup job on Tom is great! The ending is also fabulous, summing everything up nicely. It took me only about 5 minutes to fully figure out the movie. The acting is also great. Tom Cruise gives a strong performances, and I felt for him. Cameron Diaz gives the best performance in the film, as well as the best performance of her career. Nice job! Penelope Cruz didn't annoy me this time, and Kurt Russell gave a nice little performance. I also loved Crowe's direction. It was fantastic. The critics were wrong this time. VANILLA SKY is great, and I recommend everyone sees it. 8/10

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[beachblanketmomma]

*********POSSIBLE SPOILER!!!!**********

Did this movie remind anyone of JACOBS LADDER.... A lot like JACOB'S LADDER?[/B][/QUOTE]

EXACTLY what we just said after seeing it tonite!!

[FreakArtist]

I was really deceived. The ending is to long. It was well done. Great performances (especially Cameron Diaz) and great soundtrack, really great soundtrack.
It seemed like they were trying to make a fucked up movie but it wasn't hard to understand so ...

7/10

[max]

This movie proves one thing: Cruise is a better actor when he's wearing a mask (when he's not, he's all teeth and strained intensity). Although he's masked here longer than in EYES WIDE SHUT, it's not nearly enough to save this mess of a movie. VANILLA SKY should be retitled OPEN YOUR EYES WIDE SHUT. Or NOT ANOTHER TOM CRUISE MOVIE. Tom Cruise plays another hotshot living in the shadow of his father and getting the girl in the end. Or does he? Like Kubrick's masterpiece of crap, VANILLA SKY plays on dreams. We're never sure if what's happening is real or not, or if it's just that new and annoying cinematic gimmick called otnemem. And when the movie gets too confusing, the filmmakers make sure we hear the words "open your eyes" in the background just to remind us that it's our fault if we don't understand the movie. Well, the few times I was not dozing off, I could actually tell what's going on. What's real? Cruise takes his shirt off a lot. What's not? Everything else in the movie. The movie continually begs the question: Is it really Penelope Cruz Cruise is fucking or is it Cameron Diaz? I don't know and I don't care. As far as I'm concerned, the only one getting fucked is the audience.

[Mike]

Great review max, it was hilarious. What would you give the movie for a grade?

[Irene Manor]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by beachblanketmomma:


*********POSSIBLE SPOILER!!!!**********

Did this movie remind anyone of JACOBS LADDER.... A lot like JACOB'S LADDER?</font>

EXACTLY what we just said after seeing it tonite!![/B][/QUOTE]


The trip for me was that I bought JACOB'S LADDER recently and my wife and I watched it Saturday shortly before going to see VS. So, it was still fresh in our memory.

I made another comment somewhere else that:

POSSIBLE SPOILER************************

VS is the JL what Election is to Rushmore.

Just something I thought sounded good, assuming you've seen all those movies. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Irene Manor]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by amnesia:
Indeed, I thought the movie was, if nothing else, unique when I initially saw it. However, there are so many nuances, so many underlying themes decorated throughout the story, it's hard not to acquire a taste for Vanilla Sky. I came across a startling theory today that might help quell the confusion [or otherwise make me look like a complete idiot]. We learn that David Aames signed a contract with some new age science corporation which enables him to be frozen and to have his dreams dictate his life [that he really isn't living]. Then, we learn, somehow a nightmare occured in his dream and thus, he was sent to jail. However, if his whole life is one big dream, a life that he's dreaming, why the HELL would the company who froze him and is allowing him to continue his life in his dreams, be in his dream world? Thus, I believe that the whole thing of him being frozen and signing a contract with some preposterous company was like every other dream he had, influenced by pop-culture [in this case, the time he watched Banky the dog or whatever return to life on that interview]. At the end, Sofia is urging him to "open his eyes." Therefore, it was all a dream, he wakes up in the end realizing this, and the group of people whom he signed that wacky contract with was yet another nightmare. Phew! Ok, done. Any questions?</font>

That's a cool theory! I like movies so much more when they make people think things like that. 12 Monkeys, and such. I really like what you came up with and think it will add a nice slant for the next time I see it. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[max]

Thanks, Mike. I started giving it a 6/10. But the more I open my eyes to it, the less I like it. It's looking more and more like a 4/10.

[sloopyfan]

I agree Max and Mike, The more I think about the movie the less I like it. Initially I thought it was kind of cool, but as some time passed I found myself liking it less and less. THe ending was so out of place, and I don't think it was hard to figure out especially after the bar scene where he makes everyone shut up, as soon as that happened I said that is so stupid.

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The Matrix has no business in Jerry Maguire. If you have watched a decent amount of movies in the last five years, the surprise ending should not fool you, especially if you pay attention to details, Why the Hell is there no one in Times Square? why is Sophia Soo nice and sweet, after she dises david at the bar? Why does the doctor suddenly know how to fix David's face? And why does David look like Michael Meyers, with that stupid mask on?

Vanilla Sky is not clever, not original, has bad acting (except for Lee, and Russell). Is boring at times and too damn long.

[Antwort]

If you are easily impressed whenever someone makes a movie that is different then most then you might like Vanilla Sky. But if you actually want to see a good movie you should not even waste your time with Vanilla Sky.

[Danreiter]

ONE OF THE BIGGEST LET-DOWNS OF THE YEAR...

The previews called it a thriller but for VANILLA SKY to be a "thriller" that would mean it would actually have to be thrilling...

The pace and chronology of the movie is all over the place to the point of making no snese til the very end.... which a film should not do because it is frustrating to the audience.

The acting was average with the exception of Cameron Diaz with the twenty minutes of screen time she was aloud.... And I'm not exaggerating... TWENTY MINUTES allowed to the best actor in the damn thing!!!

The movie was by no means a thriller except for a nice car sequence that was carried off wonderfully by Cameron Diaz..

THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DECEPTION OF THE YEAR PEOPLE SO DO NOT BE FOOLED!!!!

[hardtoimpress]

What a Tremendous let-down. Let's face it we know that movies manipulate us that's the fun. However there ought to be a pay-off for enduring the manipulation. I kept thinking through this mostly tedious offering "wonder how they are going to unwind this one?" Then to find out its a dream what a rip-off! All bets are off cuz anything can happen in a dream. VS reminded me of the old Dallas Series when Bobby wasn't really dead it was just a dream. It was a cop-out scenario then and in my view it is a cop-out scenario now.

For the life of me I can't see why this would be worth a second viewing. 1*


[This message has been edited by hardtoimpress (edited 12-20-2001).]