Bashing certain movies

[Jas]

This is a rant about something that's bothered me for a while, but until I read Indiana Sev's latest poster roaster, I didn't plan to rant so here goes:

I don't understand why people bash movies like 'The Princess Diaries' or 'Without a Paddle' and other movies like them, and say that those movies are the end of an actor/director's career.
Why? Because their contract says they can only make mindblowing masterpieces? These movies are meant to be silly comedies, and fun movies you can take your kids too.
It's like telling bashing the Spongebob Squarepants movie, you'd be told it was only a movies for kids. Well so is 'The Princess Diaries' and other movies like that.
Now I'm only talking about comedies and kids movies because those are the two genres that get it the most , IMO, before they even open.
C'mon! If there were nothing but masterpieces in theatres, I'd rarely go.
These movies are meant to entertain, not get people to think, or to give them 4/4 stars or whatever.
Of course I like the great, great movies as much as the next guy, but I don't like any movies unless it entertains me, as in an action movies getrs you excited, a horror movie scares you, a comedy makes you laugh. I can't stand a movie, great or not, if it doesn't entertain me, wich is all these movies I'm talking about are meant to do.

[Murderous Squad]

I mean it's just an oponion, I don't agree with the whole "it's the end of the dudes career" but i'm not into movies like that. To me personally it doesen't belong to a certain age group, I really don't know who watches those films because it seems a little too corny and childish for todays teens and a little too grown up for little kids and obviously too childish for adults so that has me wondering. But you have to understand that the directors don't and shouldn't really care what type of film it is because to them ti's buisness and they don't have to continue to make corny films like that for the rest of their career.

[Jas]

Originally posted by Murderous Squad
I mean it's just an oponion,

It's not an opinion. It's deciding what you're going to think of a movie before you see it. Even if you end up being right, it's still not an opinion until after you've seen the movie.

[Murderous Squad]

Originally posted by Jason_fan 1
It's not an opinion. It's deciding what you're going to think of a movie before you see it. Even if you end up being right, it's still not an opinion until after you've seen the movie.

I guess you're right...but I mean when you know the plot and you think it's corny it's almost a guarantee that your oponion will still stay the same even if you do watch the movie

[Mog]

I know exactly how you feel Jason. I remember back when Agent Cody Banks 2 was released, there was a thread somewhere around here to "boycott" the movie. What the hell? Why would you boycott a movie you'd probably never see anyway unless you were a 5-11 year old kid? Wouldn't it only really matter if the kid was entertained and not some 20 something guy who sits in front of a computer all day?

It's bullshit if you ask me. Leave the kids movies alone. And on the marketting question, Murder, Princess diaries is marketed to younger teens and maybe a little younger. Hell I have girlriends who love those movies...needless to say movies like these aren't exactly aimed for people who obsess over movies like us Schmoes, but just good entertainment for a Friday night after going to the mall: and there's nothing wrong with that.

[bmain77]

I can't stand how some movies tend to pre-judged long before they are released. A recent example being Catwoman. Sure most agree now that the movie was perhaps the worst of the year, but until you see it how do you really know. Even the most objective reviewer couldn't walk into the theater without some serious pre-judgements that never gave the movie a good chance.

And I can think of a couple of examples that have went the other way. Remember when Titanic came out. Everybody sat back taking potshots about how much money it was going to lose. It was going to be a bigger disaster than the actual Titanic was etc... and we all know how that turned out. Like it or not the movie will go down as a probable classic and is generally accepted as a great movie. (not necessarily by this particular board but by the public as a whole)

Resident Evill 1 was the same way. I mean their were online petitions demanding a new director. It really was one of the more rediculous things that I've seen. But it came out to generally good reviews and did well enough to warrent at least one more film. It's even become socially acceptable to now be a fan of Paul Anderson if you can believe that.

Sure you are going to go into a film with certain expectations. That being said if you are going in all pissy or an expecting a classic from a dick and fart joke movie then there is a very good chance its going to suck ass just like you thought it would. Usually going in with a bad attitude will not allow yourself to be taking on the journey that the director had intended for you.

[Murderous Squad]

Originally posted by bmain77
I can't stand how some movies tend to pre-judged long before they are released. A recent example being Catwoman. Sure most agree now that the movie was perhaps the worst of the year, but until you see it how do you really know. Even the most objective reviewer couldn't walk into the theater without some serious pre-judgements that never gave the movie a good chance.

And I can think of a couple of examples that have went the other way. Remember when Titanic came out. Everybody sat back taking potshots about how much money it was going to lose. It was going to be a bigger disaster than the actual Titanic was etc... and we all know how that turned out. Like it or not the movie will go down as a probable classic and is generally accepted as a great movie. (not necessarily by this particular board but by the public as a whole)

Resident Evill 1 was the same way. I mean their were online petitions demanding a new director. It really was one of the more rediculous things that I've seen. But it came out to generally good reviews and did well enough to warrent at least one more film. It's even become socially acceptable to now be a fan of Paul Anderson if you can believe that.

Sure you are going to go into a film with certain expectations. That being said if you are going in all pissy or an expecting a classic from a dick and fart joke movie then there is a very good chance its going to suck ass just like you thought it would. Usually going in with a bad attitude will not allow yourself to be taking on the journey that the director had intended for you.

You can take a pretty good guess from TV spots , early reviews and trailers but you never know. Sort of like what happened with the village :rolleyes:

Also Mog I know what you're saying kind of I wouldn't watch the movie myself but you're right women do enjoy that type of film not realy depending on the age just in general.

[bmain77]

Originally posted by Murderous Squad
You can take a pretty good guess from TV spots , early reviews and trailers but you never know. Sort of like what happened with the village :rolleyes:


I was more referring to judgements that are made even before the release of trailers etc... I mean bad buzz that gets passed around early in the filmmaking process long before trailers are released.

As far as trailers go if you cannot release a teaser or trailer that even makes the worse film look decent then you know are are in some real trouble.

[miguel_montes]

Well, I must say I'm a little guilty about bashing certain movies like that, the most recent being "Harry Potter And The blah blah"....

Altough I never said anything bad about them here on the forums (... I think... :rolleyes: ). It's like a dirty secret.

[miguel_montes]

Come to think of it, I rarely say something bad about any film.

I just ignore them and move on. Despise is a good a tool as any (does that make sense in English?).

[Cunning Visions]

I blame AICN Talkbackers!! :p Seriously though...they are notorious for hating EVERYTHING. Whenever there's a review or mention of an upcoming movie, there's a whole bunch of posts stating how much the movie will suck. They bitch about every slightest detail "Oh the Batman suit is a lighter black instead of a deep black...this movie will SUCK!" It's just very annoying when people are constantly negative about movies or actors.

[bmain77]

I used to spend hours in the Talkbacks when I discovered I could use the internet for more than just my love of all porn. My love of legit films also could be enhanced too. Just reading over the vomit thats gets shot all over the place at AICN for cheap laughs probably extended my time in college a good semester at least. I don't think I've ever posted a single response there. It was just fun to read. Thankfully though I found this place.

[DareDevil]

Cunning Visions That just might be the best aviator of all time

the usher dance lol

[TheDeadWalk]

Trailers were invented to give us pre-determined opinions about a film.

In the same essence, it is then equally illogical to say that Movie X will kick major fucking ass and it will be a shining moment in Actor Y's career.

Hype and Hate are the same thing, only reversed. To have one, is to have the other, and if it were any other way then existence would cease.

[bigred760]

I'm with you man!

I've been saying that for years.

[Jas]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
Trailers were invented to give us pre-determined opinions about a film.



Could've sworn it was a type of advertisement :p