Well, no one asked this one... Star Wars VS Lord of the Rings?

[Jay_visigoth]

Yes, I mean... Star Wars is great. But that new Phantom -shite-Menace? Lucas has disappointed all his fans around the globe! LOTR on the other side, with a great adaption(although many details and characters ARE missing and many parts have changed but...) and a very personal direction from Jackson has earned more fans than expected...(including me, I read the book just before the movie opened!).
I BELIEVE that STAR WARS is very different kind of epic and LOTR is brand new, with impressive effects and lots of fantasy. So you must be careful and state your opinion with some "keys" from the two movies...
So the BATTLE HAS BEGUN AND THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE... CHOOSE YOUR DESTINY-by the way Mortal Kombat movie(s) suck big time!-

[FlickJunkie]

I haven't seen Lord of the Rings so I can't make that decision but this will be transfered to the Best/Worst/Favorites forum or just be closed in a matter of seconds 5...4...3...

[ak]

Well, not that I see much merit in the comparison, but I honestly don't think any LOTR film will be as superior as The Empire Strikes Back was, and still is.

The Fellowship Of The Ring is far superior to A New Hope in my honest opinion. But it could be seen as very unfare to compare them, as they are seperated by 25 years or so.
One thing's for sure, Fellowship knocks spots off of The Phantom Menace.

[zeus]

Star Wars is better, because Luke Skywalker is taller than Frodo.

[Buffy]

Easiest question ever! Star Wars of course!

[Common Sense Man]

Well I can see some of our newer members have not read the rules about one line posts yet. Maybe the will take the time soon to learn how to back their words with facts.

It is hard to compare ANH with FOTR but it is easy to compare it to EP1 it kicked it's ass up one side and down the other.

It had a good plot, good acting!, great chemistry between the characters and you actually felt for the character not groaned aloud when you saw them onscreen.

Overall who knows whether the LOTR trilogy will eclipse the Star Wars saga but I for one will not cry any tears if it does and I am a Star Wars fan!

How can you object to someone making a movie that is better than the one you think is the best!

This will just raise the bar for what is considered a good movie and it is about time!

Overall Star Wars has it's own legacy as it had many first in the industry but I think the LOTR trilogy will be better than EP1-3.

FOTR is already better than EP1 and I have a feeling George will not be able to recover in time to change EP2, maybe he can pull his head out for EP3.

PJ is here to stay thank God! and more power to him.

I think this question will be answerable in ten years after the legacy of this trilogy is established.

We shall see.

Out.......

[Buffy]

I've already read them and if I'm not mistaken its one word posts. If you want to know it's because Star Wars in my opinion has much more action and greater depth to it.

[sleekproductions]

alright, I love the star wars trilogy. and although the phantom menace was not as good as the original three, i still thought i was a very good movie. But after seeing LOTR i was speechless. I had no words to express how amazing it was. It has become my favorite movie of all time. And the next two will only get better. Some may argue that you can't compare these movies because they are from different times, but star wars was a amazing when it came out as when LOTR came out. so why not argue it?


can't wait for two towers

[Ender]

Can't say for sure until the entire Rings trilogy is out. I will say that as much as Fellowship blew me away, it's going to be hard for anything to top Empire in my eyes. Still time will tell...

[dicaprio_travolta_man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jay_visigoth:
Yes, I mean... Star Wars is great. But that new Phantom -shite-Menace? Lucas has disappointed all his fans around the globe! !-</font>

Actually, I am a huge fan of George Lucas and I thought Phantom Menace was Great. I mean, I don't see why so many of you dis-liked this movie, that boggles my mind http://www.joblo.com/ubb/confused.gif, I mean it's the begining of the Star Wars trilogy, of course it was slow they had to set up the story, you can't just go into a first movie of the trilogy guns a blazing!!!!! That would have no point because no one would know the whole story, no one would be able to understand what was going on, and no one would have any idea of how Obi-Wan, Annakin, and Yodo came to be who they were in episode 4. Expect the next two Star Wars films to be truly amazing because they don't have to tell the story of who these people are anymore. I was expecting TPM to be slow, I mean it has to be slow in order to tell the begining of the story, you can't just go into the movie with all the charecters already there with no introduction, they had to tell the background story, in other words they had to introduse the charecters in TPM that is why you all disliked it, because they actually took time to let you know what was going on instead of just putting you in the middle of a battle with no idea of who the hell these people were, I think you should respect that. Like I said the next two should be a little better because most of the charecters have already been introdused to us.

P.S.- I have alot of friends who think Lucas did an extraordinary job with TPM, they understood and respected what the man was doing. So your wrong, Lucas has not disappointed all of his fans. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Jay_visigoth]

Well... Phantom menace... it wa made so that the new millenium kids would rub their eyes, amazing effects! Whoa! hurray! But: The film had no depth! I mean, the force was only mentioned as a cool thing to do when you are in trouble! Lucas made his troligy with the force as a basis! Hew Hope(episode 4) had depth and Obi-wan was like a high priest! But in Phantom menace was like a cocky kid who was impresed by the force(you will say: sure man! but he was a kid! I 'll say: Luke was cocky?)... And if grown up to be so deadly serious then the whole thing is just a gap in the plot... One of the many in Phantom -shite-Menace! That's for Star Wars.

I like both of the sagas! And i loved them in a different way! That's for the record...

[SAI]

I'm assuming that this post refers to ep4 (8/10) in which case, that wins out, LOTR (6.5/10) is nowhere near as good.
In reference to the other Star Wars films ep5 (10/10, my favourite sci-fi movie)also beats LOTR hands down
Ep6 (3/10) is an absolute disgrace and I'd rather have FOTR fed to me on a loop for the rest of eternity than sit through ep1 (0/10, the worst film I have EVER seen) ever again.

So, in the end, half and half.

[Ender]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jay_visigoth:
Well... Phantom menace... it wa made so that the new millenium kids would rub their eyes, amazing effects! Whoa! hurray! But: The film had no depth! I mean, the force was only mentioned as a cool thing to do when you are in trouble! Lucas made his troligy with the force as a basis! Hew Hope(episode 4) had depth and Obi-wan was like a high priest! But in Phantom menace was like a cocky kid who was impresed by the force(you will say: sure man! but he was a kid! I 'll say: Luke was cocky?)... And if grown up to be so deadly serious then the whole thing is just a gap in the plot... One of the many in Phantom -shite-Menace! That's for Star Wars.

I like both of the sagas! And i loved them in a different way! That's for the record...</font>

I really don't think A NEW HOPE had nearly as much depth as you say. It was basically just the standard fairy tale format (young here, captive princess, evil sorcerer, armored fortress, etc.) set in a sci-fi setting.

[KornKidJedi]

I Love Star Wars better. I liked The Fellowship of the Ring. It was great

[This message has been edited by KornKidJedi (edited 12-23-2001).]

[ColinM]

I believe Star Wars (10/10) is much better than The Fellowship of the Ring (8/10). I think Luke could kick Frodo's ass, Han Solo could kick Strider's ass, and Obi-Wan Kenobi could kick Gandalf's ass.

Although the Ring-Wraiths would kill the Tusken Raiders, the elf and dwarf would wreck R2-D2 and C-3PO, and I'd take Liv Tyler over Carrie Fisher any day.

[Amirdarab]

The Lord of the Rings is much much better.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Ok, everyone; lets get a little serious here. Lets not judge which film is better by saying "so and so would kick so and so` ass", because that is just a wasted post. Lets look at the films merits. We`ll start with story. Lord of the Rings wins, hands down. Im sure most of you are already familiar with the story of both, if you are in this thread, so I will not waste time repeating it. Next, we`ll move on to characters. Not acting, characters. And again, Lord of the Rings wins, hands down. Luke, Anakin, r2-d2, c-3P0, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon - I could have cared less about any of the. They were all very 1 dimensional in their behaviour, and actions. Sure you know this, this, and this about them,...but do we care?? In my case,...not really. I just want to see some more light-saber fights between the characters. Now, we`ll go on to acting,.....wait; lets not. Its not even worth it. Lord of the Rings actors do something that is rarely ever achieved by any film,....and never even close by Star Wars films - they lived their characters. They are not someone acting like there someone else, they simply are being themselves. Special-Effects; I would say that if you take into account the time difference, the films are about equal here. They were both revolutionary when they came out, but Lord of the Rings USE of special-effects surpasses that of Star Wars. Everything is used to good effect. Pacing, editing, cinematography, locations, everything - Fellowship of the Ring is superior. If you can get pst the fact that you have loved Star Wars for years, than you will realize this - if you cant, you will after all 3 LtR films are released. ......sorry, but its true.

[dicaprio_travolta_man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**:
but Lord of the Rings USE of special-effects surpasses that of Star Wars. .</font>

I loved LOTR, but, your wrong here. First of all, of course the special effects in LOTR are better, I mean the special effects of 2001 are quite different from that of 1977, they have improved over the years. You need to relise that Star Wars used only the best EFEX of 1977, and LOTR used only the best in 2001. So comparing special effects is pointless because of course LOTR would win.

[Fadi]

Star Wars is an established franshise of millions of millions fans around the world. It's also a classic film(s) that's considered one of the best film ever made (not only as a Sci-Fi). LOTR is out from a few days. We haven't seen the sequels yet (always remember BATMAN and Robin that made me hate the whole Batman thing).

SW is a great thing.. LOTR is something else we get to know more, before comparing, though i still believe no film in history or future will beat it.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

You misunderstood me DCT. I said the USE of the effects. Meaning, they had more effect on the film in a positive way, and not just there for the hell of it. I agree with you on the quality issus, but Fellowship used them to enhance the story, while SW used them to advance the story. See what I mean??

[Ender]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Fadi:
Star Wars is an established franshise of millions of millions fans around the world. It's also a classic film(s) that's considered one of the best film ever made (not only as a Sci-Fi). LOTR is out from a few days. </font>

Uh, not to split hairs, but LOTR has been out for decades and has millions of fans all around the world.

I'm sorry, that was a snotty response, but I couldn't help myself.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

lol,...very true Ender. Very true.

[ColinM]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**:
Ok, everyone; lets get a little serious here. Lets not judge which film is better by saying "so and so would kick so and so` ass", because that is just a wasted post. Lets look at the films merits.</font>

Point taken, as I did post a few off those "wasted posts". My post still does, however, say that A New Hope (10/10) is far superior to The Fellowship of the Rings (8/10). This is true, in my opinion, and it's based on the films merits.

I think the story is just about equal among the two. Both are pretty basic. As for characters, I cared about the characters MUCH more in Star Wars than in LOTR. I love Luke, Leia, Obi-Wan, Solo, R2, 3PO, Anakin, Qui-Gon, etc. In LOTR, I simply...don't. I like Gandolf, Frodo and a few of the others, but not like in Star Wars. With the acception of Harrison Ford and Sir Alec Guiness, I agree that the acting in LOTR is better. I disagree that the cinematography and locations are better with LOTR. The pacing is much better in Star Wars, as there were a few times in LOTR that I was, frankly, bored. As for effects, I think Star Wars is better for their time, especially since (at least in the first three), they aren't trying to TOO HARD to look cool.

These thoughts might be a little like fragments, but I have to get off pretty quickly right now. Perhaps I can expand later.

[This message has been edited by ColinM (edited 12-26-2001).]