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Lord Nikon
08-09-2004, 06:28 PM
Im going with KB Vol 1. I haven't seen two yet. But boy was KB1 awful. Terrible dialogue. Characters that had no developtment, to the point where I didnt care who won any of the 994 minute fight scenes, that took place in what was apparently a movie. If there was a movie there in between the fight scenes boy did I miss it. And please, can I see one more limb falling off, or more blood spraying all over the place, Im not sure there was enough.
Most underated I say Arlinton Road. Doesn't get that much chatter, but I thought it was a great suspensful drama, and thriller with solid acting, and a solid PLOT. Something QT should learn about, or atleast have taken from Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs.
Hannibal21
08-09-2004, 09:26 PM
MOST OVER****: Star Wars (by no means is it a terrible film, but I just didn't care for it at all)
MOST UNDER****: The Ice Storm
one_crow_sorrow
08-09-2004, 09:29 PM
Overrated - 2001: A Space Odyssey
Underrated - Dunno
A.J. Hakari
08-09-2004, 09:36 PM
Overrated: CHASING AMY
Underrated: THE MUMMY (1999)
El Bracamonti
08-09-2004, 10:42 PM
Overrated: E.T.
Underrated: The Matrix Sequels (I don't know....it just seemed that not to many people enjoyed 'em.)
brodeurnumber1
08-09-2004, 10:46 PM
Overrated: Scarface
Underrated: Dirty Harry (I never hear anyone mention this)
Briare Rabbit
08-09-2004, 11:15 PM
Most Overrated: Double Indemnity
Most Underrated: My Girl
Trinity
08-10-2004, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by Briare Rabbit
Most Overrated: Double Indemnity
I think I asked you this once before, but never got a reply - why do you dislike this film?
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Overrated: A Clockwork Orange
Underrated: The End of the Affair
Ted Pikul
08-10-2004, 03:59 AM
Overrated : American Beauty
Underrated : The Ice Storm
A state of affairs that will redressed given time I think.
Raging Bull080
08-10-2004, 06:21 AM
most overrated : tie, Giant and A Clockwork Orange
most underrated : This might sound ridiculous, but as popular as it is with critics, and widely being considered one of the very best movies EVER, I don't think people appreciate it near enough, Chinatown.
Kucha
08-10-2004, 12:02 PM
I feel that the movies May and Brokedown Palace are underrated.
Greenaway
08-10-2004, 01:22 PM
I'm not to say what is the most underrated film ever, but I believe that Terrence Malick's The Thin Red Line has to be one of th more terribly overlooked films, which was mostly because of the huge hype Spielberg's Saving Private Ryan gathered.
Mikey2Dope
08-10-2004, 02:46 PM
Overrated - 2001: A Space Odyssey
Underrated - Bringing Out The Dead
Briare Rabbit
08-10-2004, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Trinity
I think I asked you this once before, but never got a reply - why do you dislike this film?
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Overrated: A Clockwork Orange
Underrated: The End of the Affair
It's alright if you like your movies campier then high hell, but it's difficult to take it seriously with horrible actor Fred McMurray (baaadd baaaaaad actor) muttering "right bibbbbeeeee" every couple of minutes. And what the hell was that joke of a final scene? McMurray lays DYING of a shot in the arm, and with his last ounce of strength lights up a cigarette. Also there's no atmosphere- nothing like even mainstream favorites such as The Maltese Falcon and the Big Sleep had. It's just horrible, overdone, camped out acting. The dialogue was nice, but McMurray is just too bad and weighs it down far too much. A shame because I like Stanwyck and Robinson alot.
Trinity
08-10-2004, 04:11 PM
^Double Indemnity is not camp, it's pulp (and what noir isn't?). But, I can respect your opinion on it even though it's 180º from my own.
Sigur509
08-10-2004, 04:15 PM
Overrated: A Clockwork Orange
Underrated: The Martix Reloaded
Briare Rabbit
08-11-2004, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by Trinity
^Double Indemnity is not camp, it's pulp (and what noir isn't?). But, I can respect your opinion on it even though it's 180º from my own.
Pulp is one thing, camp is another. Maltese Falcon is pulp. Double Inemnity is camp. There's a thin line.
Trinity
08-11-2004, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by Briare Rabbit
Pulp is one thing, camp is another. Maltese Falcon is pulp. Double Inemnity is camp. There's a thin line.
I don’t think it’s a thin line, I think there’s quite a big distinction. And imo both “Indemnity” and “Falcon” are pulp, NOT camp.
Indiana Sev
08-11-2004, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by brodeurnumber1
Overrated: Scarface
One of the most overrated films ever. Agreed.
The 8 Ball
08-11-2004, 11:53 AM
Overrated: Scarface
Underrated: Ashes of Time
Adornado
08-11-2004, 12:00 PM
Overrated: The Exorcist
Underrated: Hmmm...not sure about this one. I'll just say the most underrated movie of the year -- Shade.*
*356th time I have pimped Shade.
Addi88
08-11-2004, 01:12 PM
Overrated: My Big Fat Greek Wedding
Underrated: Office Space
Lord Nikon
08-11-2004, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Briare Rabbit
Pulp is one thing, camp is another. Maltese Falcon is pulp. Double Inemnity is camp. There's a thin line.
pulp; camp?
Adornado
08-11-2004, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Adornado
Underrated: Hmmm...not sure about this one.
Actually, I've thought of a certain Pare classic about a forgotten rock band that fits that bill perfectly.
bnuz_17
08-11-2004, 08:32 PM
Overrated : The Deerhunter
Shanice
08-12-2004, 12:09 PM
Overrated: Titanic, Lord of the Rings 3
Underrated: Feeling Minnesota
Jackass80
08-12-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by El Bracamonti
Overrated: E.T.
Underrated: The Matrix Sequels (I don't know....it just seemed that not to many people enjoyed 'em.)
I totally agree with you on these two choices. I think E.T. has been saturated to death as a masterpiece; to me, it looks like cornball feeding.
I think Matrix Reloaded is one of the best action/sci-fi films of the past 20 years. For some reason, many thought it was confusing.
Same for The Village; people are put off when they have to use their brains.
Frank the Tank
08-12-2004, 03:06 PM
Overrated - Star Wars, Fellowship of The Ring (Hasn't seen either of the two other LOTR films), Titantic, Blair Witch Project, and The Sixth Sense
Underrated - Jacob's Ladder by far. If that came out in 99, instead of the Sixth Sense it would be called a classic, make nearly 300 million at the Box Office, and get nominated for an oscar. It just came out at a time, when people weren't ready for it.
Greenaway
08-12-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Jackass80
I totally agree with you on these two choices. I think E.T. has been saturated to death as a masterpiece; to me, it looks like cornball feeding.
I think Matrix Reloaded is one of the best action/sci-fi films of the past 20 years. For some reason, many thought it was confusing.
Same for The Village; people are put off when they have to use their brains.
That's a bold argument, a hyperbole, I know, but still: to use the example of people not using their brains and casting them as stereotyped morons is the oldest cliché, I think. :D
The following could be cut and thrown into the pot of another forum, but I thought The Matrix was all right, where the philosophical aspects of the film did not yet come too obvious. The biggest problem of the sequels is its self-allusive approach to philosophy, and the references to religions and cultural matters is just too obvious: to some extent it is like Shyamalan's The Village (the irony, the irony!), as it felt like the director(s) failed to treat the audience as intellectuals, only as a bunch of intellectually incapable individuals getting into philosophy for the first time. For those, who got to know some ideologies better through the film (not talking about Shyamalan's film anymore, sorry), it must have been a grand experience, but for me, it wasn't really as enlightening as it was experiencing self-indulgence by the part of the director.
There have simply been much more intelligent filmmakers out there to give both visually and intellectually stunning ideas, that at least the sequels felt tired and too self-preserved.
Jackass80
08-12-2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Greenaway
That's a bold argument, a hyperbole, I know, but still: to use the example of people not using their brains and casting them as stereotyped morons is the oldest cliché, I think. :D
The following could be cut and thrown into the pot of another forum, but I thought The Matrix was all right, where the philosophical aspects of the film did not yet come too obvious. The biggest problem of the sequels is its self-allusive approach to philosophy, and the references to religions and cultural matters is just too obvious: to some extent it is like Shyamalan's The Village (the irony, the irony!), as it felt like the director(s) failed to treat the audience as intellectuals, only as a bunch of intellectually incapable individuals getting into philosophy for the first time. For those, who got to know some ideologies better through the film (not talking about Shyamalan's film anymore, sorry), it must have been a grand experience, but for me, it wasn't really as enlightening as it was experiencing self-indulgence by the part of the director.
There have simply been much more intelligent filmmakers out there to give both visually and intellectually stunning ideas, that at least the sequels felt tired and too self-preserved.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say...The Village and Matrix are pretending to be intelligent? I think you're trying to hard to find answers that simply aren't there.
outtamind
08-12-2004, 07:33 PM
Overrated: LOTR(good, but not spectacular) and Scarface(crap)
Jackass80
08-12-2004, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by outtamind
Overrated: LOTR(good, but not spectacular) and Scarface(crap)
Definitely, Scarface.
Jamesadin
08-12-2004, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Addi88
Overrated: My Big Fat Greek Wedding
Indeed!
distorto25
08-12-2004, 09:36 PM
OVERRATED: Lost In Translation
UNDERRATED: The Way of the Gun
Metallica4702
08-12-2004, 10:02 PM
Citizen Kane, Chasing Amy, and Fletch are all way overrated.
The Fog, American Psycho, and Ford Fairlane are way underrated
bankholdup
08-12-2004, 11:23 PM
Overrated: A Streetcar Named Desire; Dr. Strangelove; West Side Story; The Wild Bunch
Underrated: Safety Last!
Safety Last! isn't so much underrated as it is overlooked. Not many people I've talked to have seen it.
Gian-Sergio
08-12-2004, 11:51 PM
Overrated:Forest Gump
Underrated:Jackie Brown
Kidsilk
08-13-2004, 08:29 AM
Overrated - Titanic
Underrated - Predator 2
Greenaway
08-13-2004, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Jackass80
I'm not sure what you're trying to say...The Village and Matrix are pretending to be intelligent? I think you're trying to [sic] hard to find answers that simply aren't there.
Oh, the irony. And I am the one trying too hard to find answers that aren't there? For your consideration, please re-read the post; it seems you are trying too hard to interpret my words and take them out of their subjective contexts. So let me elaborate.
It would perhaps be wise to go this through step by step, but perhaps some another time. First of all, I have not denied, that the films would not be intelligent. I believe, that, to some extent, a film can be considered as intelligent if it presents intelligent ideas, and I think both the Wachowskis and Shyamalan present some intelligent ideas in their films. If you really read the post, I think it becomes obvious that it is not that it wouldn't be intelligent, it is in the way the ideas are presented; the first Matrix, and its sequels to some extent, have substance, but beside the special effect-driven extravaganza, it isn't visually as inventive as, should I say, most films from visually intelligent directors such as Andrei Tarkovsky, Peter Greenaway and Orson Welles. I admit that I should have drawn the line between mere intelligence, and that what I call "visual intelligence", and so yes, partially both of their films lack that kind of intellingence. But that was not my point in my first post.
It seems that you enjoyed both of the films (correct me if I am wrong), but it would be polite of you to stand me because of having a different opinion.
As for your argument that I would be saying that the films discussed (The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix Revolutions and The Village) pretend to be intelligent is... absurd. Hear me now: I think that if a film really presents an intelligent idea, differing from presenting visually intelligent ideas (and for preventing you from once again misinterpreting what I have just said, I think that all of the films present some intelligent ideas in the visual sense of the definition), it does not have to pretend to be intelligent. That is a subjective matter of perception, but isn't it logical to think that if a film has intelligent ideas, I would consider it intelligent at least to some extent? I don't know about you, but it sounds logical, to me, at least, to bring forth an argument that I would say that they are intelligent films. But by this I don't mean that their intelligence would be infinite, and if their intelligence is infinite, then it can be assumed that it is possible that there are some films made that are even more intelligent, as there is no intelligence that would become an absolute. Agreed? In this case, I believe that the intelligence put forth in The Matrix and especially in its heavy-laden sequels has so much to do with religious and philosophical analogies it becomes almost impossible to draw a line between them. And if normally this wouldn't be the definition of intelligence, should it be considered that a film would become intelligent when presenting allusions to religion and philosophy.
As for a straightforward question, what are exactly those anwers I am trying too hard to find? I don't know if this has something to do with you not understanding the argument, which I presented (I hope this post can clarify some of the points I have discussed --- as I think that you might as well be an extremely intelligent person, so I would not hold that as a surprise) or is it an argument in the trivial sense of the word. So please, if you may, enlighten me.
Jackass80
08-13-2004, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by Greenaway
Oh, the irony. And I am the one trying too hard to find answers that aren't there? For your consideration, please re-read the post; it seems you are trying too hard to interpret my words and take them out of their subjective contexts. So let me elaborate.
It would perhaps be wise to go this through step by step, but perhaps some another time. First of all, I have not denied, that the films would not be intelligent. I believe, that, to some extent, a film can be considered as intelligent if it presents intelligent ideas, and I think both the Wachowskis and Shyamalan present some intelligent ideas in their films. If you really read the post, I think it becomes obvious that it is not that it wouldn't be intelligent, it is in the way the ideas are presented; the first Matrix, and its sequels to some extent, have substance, but beside the special effect-driven extravaganza, it isn't visually as inventive as, should I say, most films from visually intelligent directors such as Andrei Tarkovsky, Peter Greenaway and Orson Welles. I admit that I should have drawn the line between mere intelligence, and that what I call "visual intelligence", and so yes, partially both of their films lack that kind of intellingence. But that was not my point in my first post.
It seems that you enjoyed both of the films (correct me if I am wrong), but it would be polite of you to stand me because of having a different opinion.
As for your argument that I would be saying that the films discussed (The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix Revolutions and The Village) pretend to be intelligent is... absurd. Hear me now: I think that if a film really presents an intelligent idea, differing from presenting visually intelligent ideas (and for preventing you from once again misinterpreting what I have just said, I think that all of the films present some intelligent ideas in the visual sense of the definition), it does not have to pretend to be intelligent. That is a subjective matter of perception, but isn't it logical to think that if a film has intelligent ideas, I would consider it intelligent at least to some extent? I don't know about you, but it sounds logical, to me, at least, to bring forth an argument that I would say that they are intelligent films. But by this I don't mean that their intelligence would be infinite, and if their intelligence is infinite, then it can be assumed that it is possible that there are some films made that are even more intelligent, as there is no intelligence that would become an absolute. Agreed? In this case, I believe that the intelligence put forth in The Matrix and especially in its heavy-laden sequels has so much to do with religious and philosophical analogies it becomes almost impossible to draw a line between them. And if normally this wouldn't be the definition of intelligence, should it be considered that a film would become intelligent when presenting allusions to religion and philosophy.
As for a straightforward question, what are exactly those anwers I am trying too hard to find? I don't know if this has something to do with you not understanding the argument, which I presented (I hope this post can clarify some of the points I have discussed --- as I think that you might as well be an extremely intelligent person, so I would not hold that as a surprise) or is it an argument in the trivial sense of the word. So please, if you may, enlighten me.
Dude, if you look at all films with this thick of ideology, no film is going to live up to your expectations.
I understand what you're saying, but I DO consider The Village and The Matrix intelligent films BECAUSE they present insightful diagrams of their ideas, such as political paranoia and isolation in The Village. I'm not saying Matrix and its sequels are smart because of the science/religious/prophesying mumbo-jumbo, but in the way the films project their characters and stories. (I also have a special spot for 19th century towns and woods, but, that's another story.)
Now, can we make peace? ;-)
Greenaway
08-13-2004, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Jackass80
Dude, if you look at all films with this thick of ideology, no film is going to live up to your expectations.
I understand what you're saying, but I DO consider The Village and The Matrix intelligent films BECAUSE they present insightful diagrams of their ideas, such as political paranoia and isolation in The Village. I'm not saying Matrix and its sequels are smart because of the science/religious/prophesying mumbo-jumbo, but in the way the films project their characters and stories. (I also have a special spot for 19th century towns and woods, but, that's another story.)
Now, can we make peace? ;-)
Hey, mate, I'm all for it. :D
By the way, I try not to use such ideologies (to think too much) when seeing most of the films released nowadays, but I think it should be read as a compliment (sort of) that I thought so highly of The Matrix, as I had as high hopes for Reloaded as everone else... though I was disappointed, that is, but those really were the days. ;)
But when I see a really glorious work, then I'm all over it... :p
Jackass80
08-13-2004, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Greenaway
Hey, mate, I'm all for it. :D
By the way, I try not to use such ideologies (to think too much) when seeing most of the films released nowadays, but I think it should be read as a compliment (sort of) that I thought so highly of The Matrix, as I had as high hopes for Reloaded as everone else... though I was disappointed, that is, but those really were the days. ;)
But when I see a really glorious work, then I'm all over it... :p
I'm a genuine film geek and get excited when I see a film that strikes me in a special way. Reloaded didn't exactly do it for me, though I still loved it. The Village is my favorite movie of the year, so far.
fevers
08-13-2004, 03:17 PM
Overrated - There are quite a few, but most of all... John Carpenter's Halloween
Underrated - Bottle Rocket, Hard Eight, Spartacus
Jackass80
08-13-2004, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by fevers
Overrated - There are quite a few, but most of all... John Carpenter's Halloween
Underrated - Bottle Rocket, Hard Eight, Spartacus
I wouldn't consider Spartacus under-appreciated at all. On the other hand, Halloween deserves all the recognition it gets.
Revenant
08-13-2004, 04:15 PM
Overrated:
Shrek
--Couldn't even finish it.
Underrated:
Unbreakable
--I recently watched this movie again and put it on my top shelf. It's one of the greatest origin stories ever told--it's just told quietly, and I think that was one of Shamy's goals--to have you thinking, "this could be going on around me right now... and I'd never know."
Revenant
08-13-2004, 04:22 PM
I'm a genuine film geek and get excited when I see a film that strikes me in a special way. Reloaded didn't exactly do it for me, though I still loved it. The Village is my favorite movie of the year, so far.
I wanted to like The Village. Very much. When I sat down and was watching it unfold--I knew there was a twist coming somewhere, and I thought to myself, "If it's this one thing, I'm gonna be so pissed." And that was it. It turned out exactly the way I thought it would, and I was so frustrated. There was no magic in it. And Mr. Exposition was just plain awful. Even one of the reveal sequences was edited so poorly that the "twist" was given away a few minutes before the reveal.
All in all, Shamy needs to take a vacation, clear out his head, or hire a new writer. Suspense, tone, technicalities--he's a master. He just needs to realize that he CAN stop writing himself into this corner every time.
fevers
08-13-2004, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Jackass80
I wouldn't consider Spartacus under-appreciated at all. On the other hand, Halloween deserves all the recognition it gets.
Well, I think it's underrated for a Kubrick film, it certainly doesn't get the attention it deserves like his other films.
As for Halloween, I understand ALOT of people really love this movie, but I never saw what was so great about it or any of the sequels. Just kind of dull and medicore. I know MacReady would have to agree with me on that point.
APzombie
08-14-2004, 12:20 AM
OVERATED
Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
I can name 100+ films that deserve eleven academy awards more than this one. Not a bad film but IMO not an 'instant classic'.
UNDERATED
Casino
Scorsese's hidden gem. Gets looked down as 'Goodfellas in Vegas' but it's so much more than that. One of iconic films of the 90's (even it takes place from the late sixties through the eighties).
Tayzlor
08-14-2004, 03:41 AM
Overrated - The Professional, Halloween, Memento, Scarface
Underrated - Five Easy Pieces, Leaving Las Vegas, The Conversation, Bottle Rocket, The Virgin Suicides
Metallica4702
08-14-2004, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by Jackass80
Dude, if you look at all films with this thick of ideology, no film is going to live up to your expectations.
I understand what you're saying, but I DO consider The Village and The Matrix intelligent films BECAUSE they present insightful diagrams of their ideas, such as political paranoia and isolation in The Village. I'm not saying Matrix and its sequels are smart because of the science/religious/prophesying mumbo-jumbo, but in the way the films project their characters and stories. (I also have a special spot for 19th century towns and woods, but, that's another story.)
Now, can we make peace? ;-)
Guys, this is a message board, not an essay board. No one but this guy contradicting you is gonna care or read a message that takes up a full screen, so don't.
Greenaway
08-14-2004, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by APzombie
OVERATED
Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
I can name 100+ films that deserve eleven academy awards more than this one.
Please, if you may. Don't be worried, I'm not picking at you, I thought that the last part of the trilogy was good, but gets 8 out of 10 from me (the first one is still the most nostalgic). I'm just asking out of curiosity.
Greenaway
08-14-2004, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Jackass80
I'm a genuine film geek and get excited when I see a film that strikes me in a special way. Reloaded didn't exactly do it for me, though I still loved it. The Village is my favorite movie of the year, so far.
I really that it's a great thing that you liked it, as I wanted to see him [Shyamalan] pull it [the film] off, but besides Deakins' brilliant cinematography and Howard's performance, I was aptly disappointed.
By the way, my favorite of the year is Gondry's Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
Greenaway
08-14-2004, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Metallica4702
Guys, this is a message board, not an essay board. No one but this guy contradicting you is gonna care or read a message that takes up a full screen, so don't.
If it's not your thing to read, mate, then don't. We are not forcing you. And that message was far from an essay, by the way. We were just having a constructive discussion.
Don't what? :D
Briare Rabbit
08-14-2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Metallica4702
Guys, this is a message board, not an essay board. No one but this guy contradicting you is gonna care or read a message that takes up a full screen, so don't.
Did you read the rules when you joined this board? The rules state that silly little messages arent normally allowed, try and put some backing to it. I read them, lots of others do to. So, newbie, you havent been here that long. Learn the ways, then pipe up with your cold and irrational comments.
Got another contender for underrated movie:
The Black Cauldron. Disney at it's very, very best.
Moviefan02000
08-14-2004, 05:01 PM
Overrated: LOTR films, Moulin Rouge, Saving Private Ryan
Underrated: Love Actually, The Notebook, The Ladykillers (2003), May, and come on..Children of the Corn Part 4, the one with Naomi Watts, the best one.
poopontheshoes7
08-14-2004, 05:47 PM
Overrated: DONNIE FUCKING SHITFEST DARKO!!!! and KILL BILL VOL.1
underrated:Out of Time, Red Dragon (Way better than Hannibal)
Eye for an Eye, Turner and Hootch, Rain Man, and already AVP.
Greenaway
08-15-2004, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Briare Rabbit
Got another contender for underrated movie:
The Black Cauldron. Disney at it's very, very best.
Nice one.
ANavissi500
08-20-2004, 10:26 PM
Overrated:
A Streetcar Named Desire
On the Waterfront
Rushmore
Badbird
08-21-2004, 03:58 AM
Overrated:
Where do I begin? How about LOTR, Star Wars, Kill Bill, and Fight Club for starters.
Underrated:
Predator 2 by far, Last Action Hero, 3000 Miles to Graceland, Titan AE.
FilmThreat5
08-21-2004, 05:38 AM
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Greenaway
08-21-2004, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by FilmThreat5
Overrated: Scarface
I am with you on this one.
Brando @$$ Fat
08-21-2004, 10:28 AM
Overrated- THE LAST SAMURAI
Underrated- AMERICAN PSYCHO
jimmyjdmb
08-21-2004, 12:59 PM
Overated- Dr. Strangelove
Underrated- Vanilla Sky, Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions
Tony_Montana
08-21-2004, 01:22 PM
Overrated: Lawrence of Arabia (boring as hell)
Underrated: Desperado (one of my favourites)
bluesbrother965
08-24-2004, 10:58 PM
Overrated: Scarface. I can't stand why everyone is so obsessed with this movie. It's completely run-of-the-mill, there are so many gangster movies better than this. I also think Leon and The Breakfast Club are overrated.
Underrated: I thought the remake of Ocean's Eleven was pretty good, there are definitely much worse movies and it has a nice, large cast of characters, which is always a plus in my book.
APzombie
08-24-2004, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Greenaway
Please, if you may. Don't be worried, I'm not picking at you, I thought that the last part of the trilogy was good, but gets 8 out of 10 from me (the first one is still the most nostalgic). I'm just asking out of curiosity.
Just figurative speech (and a bad choice at that):)
I have two more
Underated
THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185937/maindetails)
This is a horror masterpiece in my opinion. All the fourth rate spoofs buried its credibility.
Overated
SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138097/)
Not really bad but, like RotK, I get pretty pissed off when an undiserving film gets more credit than some of the greatest films out there (like this winning the oscar over Saving Private Ryan).
kdawg
08-25-2004, 02:16 PM
Overated-Kill Bill Vol. 2-This was a decent movie. Not great and not horrible. I think most people loved the first movie so much that they feel they HAVE to love the second. Yes I'm a big fan of Vol. 1, but I felt that Vol 2. in no way compared to the first film. A little to much chatter. Very overated.
Underated-Arlington Road-This movie rocked with a great cast, fantastic acting and a killer ending that will stay with you forever and I never hear anyone talk about it until this thread. A wonderful movie. 10/10
kazesim
08-25-2004, 10:43 PM
OVERATED: Telling people their opinions of films are "overated" and "underated"
UNDERATED: Stating one's opinion of a film simply on the basis of one's own personal satification.
Metallica4702
08-26-2004, 12:23 AM
I really expected Dr. Strangelove and History of the world to be really funny, but they just weren't. The best part of History was in the end when they showed a preview for the Part II that never came. Other than that, all the jokes in both of these movies fell flat on their faces. Very unfunny movies.
Metallica4702
08-26-2004, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Briare Rabbit
Did you read the rules when you joined this board? The rules state that silly little messages arent normally allowed, try and put some backing to it. I read them, lots of others do to. So, newbie, you havent been here that long. Learn the ways, then pipe up with your cold and irrational comments.
Got another contender for underrated movie:
The Black Cauldron. Disney at it's very, very best.
Well sorry for stating my opinion. I like these message boards, but I hate when I have to read a message the size of my computer screen that goes on and on about the same thing. I stand by what I said.
UseYourIllusion
08-26-2004, 02:02 AM
Overrated:Lost In Translation
Underrated:SuBurbia
screenshotxl1
08-26-2004, 07:49 AM
Underated: Biccentenial Man (or however you spell that)
I liked it, or maybe I'm the only one.....
Squid Vicious
08-26-2004, 01:13 PM
The most overrated movie of all time is Gone with the Wind. Yes, it's a good movie, but the fourth best film of all time? I think not.
Titanic comes in a close second.
I'm not sure what the most underrated film of all time is. It could be Brazil. It's certainly a contender.
Jamesadin
08-26-2004, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by screenshotxl1
Underated: Biccentenial Man (or however you spell that)
I liked it, or maybe I'm the only one.....
Yes, I think you are the only one. :P Or maybe Im just the only one that hated it.
Hannibal21
08-27-2004, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by Metallica4702
Well sorry for stating my opinion. I like these message boards, but I hate when I have to read a message the size of my computer screen that goes on and on about the same thing. I stand by what I said.
Then why bother reading the message? People on this board are allowed to post their opinions, regardless of how long they are. If you don't want to read a message that's the size of your computer screen, then don't, nobody is asking you to.
APzombie
08-30-2004, 12:48 AM
More from me...
UNDERATED
Saving Private Ryan wouldn't say it unless it won Best Picture against a so-so film.
OVERATED
Overly gross teen films that get money by flashing breasts impressing kids who are too young to rent porn and then stealing their money again when they release an "unrated" edition for video that sells to the same pre-teens because of their sexual weakness
examples:
American Pie 1,2,3
Eurotrip
Road Trip
The Girl Next Door
ect..
SpacePuppet
08-30-2004, 06:10 PM
Overrated: Lord Of The Rings 1 & 2. (haven't seen 3 yet.)
Underrated: Memento
ilovemovies
08-30-2004, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Hannibal21
MOST OVER****: Star Wars (by no means is it a terrible film, but I just didn't care for it at all)
Really? I would have thought The Blair Witch Project would be your choice for most overrated movie.
My pics
Overrated, but still good:
Citizen Kane, Psycho, Alien, Halloween, Finding Nemo, The Sweet Hereafter
Overrated and sucks:
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, West Side Story
Underrated:
The Girl Next Door, Angel Eyes, Heart and Souls, Falling Down, A Little Princess, What Dreams May Come, Arlington Road, All the Pretty Horses, Nurse Betty, The Majestic, Star Trek: Nemesis, Moonlight Mile, The Terminal, Of Mice and Men (1992-Gary Sinise)
And LOTS of others as well.
Pvt. Joker
09-01-2004, 11:32 AM
Overrated - Kill Bill Vol. 1, Lord of the Rings movies, Lost in Translation
Underrated - Chopper (I've mentioned this before but I'm not sure if anyone here has ever seen this movie)
The Blair Witch Project
APzombie
09-01-2004, 08:02 PM
UNDERATED
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves ***1/2 FUN FILM!
OVERATED
F 9/11
jckillafreak
09-03-2004, 05:01 PM
overrated: there's something about mary
underrated: butterfly effect
Heavenley
09-03-2004, 05:28 PM
Overrated
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My Big Fat Greek Wedding
Jackass the Movie
From Justin to Kelly
Shrek
Charlie's Angels
Underrated
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Gosford Park
The Pianist
The Count of Monte Cristo
Before Sunrise
AI
Under the Tuscan Sun
One Hour Photo
Max
Identity
The Hole
One Hour Photo
The Village
The Butterfly Effect
28 Days Later
Pvt. Joker
09-03-2004, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by Heavenley
Overrated
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From Justin to Kelly
Underrated
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The Pianist
I agree with you on most of your list but these two confused me. I'm not sure if anyone thought from Justin to Kelly was going to be an oscar contender or even a decent movie and The Pianist won an oscar and all the critics were raving about it. I can see the roles being reversed but then I don't think anyone would think From Justin to Kelly was underrated.
Heavenley
09-03-2004, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Pvt. Joker
I agree with you on most of your list but these two confused me. I'm not sure if anyone thought from Justin to Kelly was going to be an oscar contender or even a decent movie and The Pianist won an oscar and all the critics were raving about it. I can see the roles being reversed but then I don't think anyone would think From Justin to Kelly was underrated.
It's just that From Justin to Kelly got so much more publicity and hoopla than The Pianist did, and even though it did win an Oscar, it's still not a very well known film, as excellent as it is. So I think From Justin to Kelly is overrated in the fact that it was over-advertised and starred the people from the American Idol show , which was at the height of it's fame at the time. It didn't deserve the amount of publicity it got (it's a big piece of fluff IMO), so that's what made it overrated to me.
Troy Zuniga
09-03-2004, 06:44 PM
I thought Eraserhead was overrated. Granted, you don't hear tons about it, but in its day it was Captain Mega Artsy Flick. I just got bored. If I want to watch nightmares, I can sleep.
Don't get me wrong, though. David Lynch makes my list of top ten favorite directors.
Also, I thought Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was just a crap festival. And I really wanted to like it. But again, if I want to live out a nightmarish drug experience, well... I know dirty people. It pretty much went downhill for me starting from the time they check into the hotel.
The Cooler was completely underrated. I loved that movie with a vengeance. I even own it on DVD. And come on, William H. Macy kicks much ass.
Also, I wanna make something clear. All the ragging of Scarface: I agree with it. BUT, the 1932 version was stellar.
jimmymaggot
09-05-2004, 12:14 AM
2 highly underrated films were:
1.Identity
2.Unbreakable(m. nights truly best film.)
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