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Zing!

08-16-2004, 04:26 PM

BOND 21 (although not officially announced by EON, the general consensus seems to be the title will be 'Casino Royale' after Ian Fleming's first Bond novel - although not necessarily based on it.

James Bond: ? (Brosnan has expressed a desire to return, but as of late has stated that "...Bond is behind him."

'Q': John Cleese

'M': Dame Judi Dench (has expressed a desire to return as Bond's boss)

Damian Falco: Michael Madsen (the new Felix Leiter of the series?)

Producers: Barbara Broccoli & Michael G Wilson

Screenplay: Neal Purvis & Robert Wade (ugh... new blood needed! It has been reported that they have turned in their initial treatment for Bond 21)

Music: David Arnold (has done a fine job so far)

Ted Pikul

08-16-2004, 06:16 PM

Damian Falco the new Felix Leiter?

Please God no. Michael Madsen is a lousy actor in anything not penned by Quentin Tarantino.

On second thoughts I'd let him play the real Felix Leiter if QT came on board the franchise.

Zing!

08-17-2004, 09:27 AM

Yeah I'm not too crazy about Madsen myself - he overacted his ass off for his bit part in DAD. Not too crazy about him returning for Bond 21 - if that is indeed the case. If they are going to have characters from past films, I would prefer they stick with people that have a history within the Bond franchise, ie: Felix Leiter, Bill Tanner, or even Tiger Tanaka.

Ted Pikul

08-17-2004, 11:37 AM

More bad news concerning Bond 21 tree hugging tantric shagger Sting is being considered for the theme tune according to the Metro freebie newspaper.

Maybe the next film will be called Dee-Doo-Doo Another Da-Da-Da.

Zing!

08-17-2004, 12:07 PM

I'm still holding out hope that EON will fork out the $$$ to sign U2 for the theme song. I think they'd make a perfect choice. Elton John has already thrown his hat in the ring (after his cat fight in the press with Madonna over the DAD theme). I think Sir Elton could do a Bond theme justice. I also wouldn't mind Isaac Hayes or if EON let Paul McCartney have another go at a theme (Shirley Bassey had three shots at Bond themes). If you see a trend in my choices, it's because I would very much like to hear a male voice on the next Bond song - just for a change of pace. If we had to have yet another woman sing for bond 21, I wouldn't mind at all if EON asked Dame Bassey back for her fourth go-round as a Bond singer.

quoth_the_raven

08-17-2004, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Ted Pikul
Sting

With every breath I take and every move I make, I'm getting more and more scared for Bond 21 ;)

Enough sting/police jokes. don't make me moderate someones ass ;)

Greenaway

08-17-2004, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Zing!
I'm still holding out hope that EON will fork out the $$$ to sign U2 for the theme song. I think they'd make a perfect choice. Elton John has already thrown his hat in the ring (after his cat fight in the press with Madonna over the DAD theme). I think Sir Elton could do a Bond theme justice. I also wouldn't mind Isaac Hayes or if EON let Paul McCartney have another go at a theme (Shirley Bassey had three shots at Bond themes). If you see a trend in my choices, it's because I would very much like to hear a male voice on the next Bond song - just for a change of pace. If we had to have yet another woman sing for bond 21, I wouldn't mind at all if EON asked Dame Bassey back for her fourth go-round as a Bond singer.

McCartney would be interesting.

bob

08-21-2004, 05:29 PM

Maybe something has happened since I heard this news that invalidates it, but isn't Eric Bana the new Bond?

quoth_the_raven

08-23-2004, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by bob
Maybe something has happened since I heard this news that invalidates it, but isn't Eric Bana the new Bond?

The last I heard, no he isn't. He doesn't want to do it...

maybe something new has come up since then?

mattjk_17

08-24-2004, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by quoth_the_raven
With every breath I take and every move I make, I'm getting more and more scared for Bond 21 ;)

Never let this man near a microphone, don't give him a recording deal and for the love of God, STOP RUINING GOOD SONGS, MAN!

So, Quothy, did you miss me? :D

quoth_the_raven

08-25-2004, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by mattjk_17

So, Quothy, did you miss me? :D

sorry, who are you, again?

;)

Zing!

08-25-2004, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by bob
Maybe something has happened since I heard this news that invalidates it, but isn't Eric Bana the new Bond?

Bana won't be next Bond
Date: 25/08/04
By Jonathon Moran, National Entertainment Writer
Australian actor Eric Bana will not be the next James Bond.

The actor, who last appeared on the big screen opposite Brad Pitt in Troy, said he was definitely not in the running to take over from Pierce Brosnan as agent 007.

"Let me start by putting it to rest, that I am not the next James Bond," Bana said while launching the new teenmatters magazine in Sydney.

"I still don't know where that came from."

In fact, Bana only heard he was a contender while watching the evening news in his Melbourne home.

"I was sitting at home watching the news and thinking I did not know anything about this."

Almost every celebrity in Hollywood is being named as a possibility to take over as Bond, including Jude Law, Ewan Mcgregor, Christian Bale, Orlando Bloom and Colin Farrell.

News reports coming out of the UK on Friday suggested that despite Bana's denial, he had been offered the part.

"Eric has been offered the part of James Bond but is currently deciding whether it's something he really wants to sign up to," an insider reportedly told London's Evening Standard last week.

quoth_the_raven

08-25-2004, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by Zing!

Almost every celebrity in Hollywood is being named as a possibility to take over as Bond, including Jude Law, Ewan Mcgregor, Christian Bale, Orlando Bloom and Colin Farrell.

Lets run an analysis here.

Jude- Can't see it myself
Ewan- Can't see that either.
Christian- Bit busy being batman
orlando- God I fucking hope not
Colin Farrell- Doesn't look right, and I dont think he would be up to it.

Bugger. Clive Owen it is then ;)

Zing!

08-30-2004, 10:32 AM

[From Commanderbond.net]

Bond 21 To Start Shooting In April '05?

Mysterious insider strikes again

Written by Tim Roth (29 Aug, 2004, 12:25)

A mysterious insider over at Absolutely James Bond message boards has reported that the start of production of Bond 21 has been delayed until April 2005. Insider "Pierce-B" proved his reliability during the shooting of Die Another Day multiple times, but he was also far out in 2003 when he "confirmed" that location scouts had visited South Africa and Liverpool. According to CBn's own sources, no locations were scouted in 2003 at all.

However, an April 2005 start of production would accompany the rumours of a 2006 release date. Originally, the shooting start of Bond 21 was dated January 2005. But now it appears that no filming will start until MGM is sold, and the future of MGM seems very opaque. Other reasons not to believe in a November 2005 release date include that no director has been announced yet and no other details have been released so far. A few weeks back, MGM vice chairman and COO Chris McGurk said that Bond 21 is ahead of a schedule compared to Die Another Day in 2001. But Lee Tamahori was officially announced on jamesbond.com on August 22, a few days earlier it was officially confirmed that Bond is going to drive Aston Martin again. Likewise, Michael Apted was named director of The World is Not Enough on August 8.

Now, August is about to end with no official news of a director nor who will play 007. Latest word from "pierce-b" regarding the new Bond actor was that James Purefoy was in the run, but Purefoy recently told Hello magazine that while the role would be "a great honour," news of him as 007 #6 was just a rumour.

Let's hope that we will hear from MGM soon.

bozzy

08-30-2004, 09:12 PM

Reporting an internet rumour posted by an anonymous member as news or fact and chewing on the so called juicy rumour as some gospel truth!? Is there any room for more intelligent, cultured, sophisticated, objective discussion these days and age?

With such kind of so called Bond fans, no wonder Bond is in such sorry shape.:(

As Variety last reported, the damage is self inflicted..oh I forget EON loves this kind of self-parody, they even think that Austin Power is greater than Bond and welcome more farcical take on Bond, so they say..

Zing!

08-31-2004, 10:27 AM

Methinks bozzy woke up on the wrong side of the crib today. Take it easy, Boz, isn't "internet rumour posted by an anonymous member as news or fact and chewing on the so called juicy rumour as some gospel truth" the point of message boards like these? I say better to have wild speculation and outlandish rumors than no Bond discourse at all. If you're looking for cultured, sophisticated, objective discussion - might I suggest you visit The Arrow's "Upcoming / Current Horror Movies" thread?

;)

quoth_the_raven

08-31-2004, 11:14 AM

Bozzy

Maybe you should have spent less time worrying about being intelligent, cultured, sophisticated and objective and more time reading the part of the rules which talks about not insulting other schmoes ;)

Having said that, no one has complained to me yet so I'll let it alone for the moment.

It would be more appropriate if you do have a suggestion for how this section of the site could be improved, to e-mail me. Or if you have an idea for a discussion, post it by all means. I've only got so many ideas and extra input would be greatly appreciated.

As for discussing rumours...when it comes to Bond 21, I feel thats about all there is to discuss at the moment. I'm hoping we'll have concrete news sooner rather than later, but in the mean time...theres no harm in a little idle speculation.

As I said, if theres anything about the way I run the forum you want to discuss with me, feel free to send me that e-mail ok? I'm always open to some new ideas.
cheers

Chris

bozzy

08-31-2004, 11:10 PM

You have misunderstood me. I am not saying this board which is a very pleasant place to go to and discuss Bond. I am very sure quoth_the_raven has been doing a great job here. Rather I am saying this [From Commanderbond.net] which is reporting and chewing over every trivia as fact..Also I am extremely *DISGUSTED* at the fact that a message posted by some user on a board can be taken seriously by that so called bond site, I am sure alot of ppl share my view...Sorry if I haven't made myself clear..my bad, ranting finished..

Zing!

09-01-2004, 08:59 AM

This should please you - all the facts as we know them (ie: none)

[From ianfleming.org]

Plenty of Drama, But Little Action

August 31, 2004

More than six months have passed since the first reports said that Pierce Brosnan would not be returning as Bond. And amazingly we don’t know much more than that, reports James Rumley.

Sure, Pierce Brosnan has weighed in with various different messages as time has progressed. Brosnan’s now infamous "opaque" comment left his employment issue in murky waters for several weeks. Then the rhetoric turned more fiery, with Brosnan publicly suggesting a potential director, and saying that the producers didn’t know what to do with the next movie. Most recently there's unconfirmed talk that Brosnan has said that he will 'never again' play James Bond. I will avoid the seemingly obligatory reference to a Bond movie with that phrase in the title. Of course, Brosnan has told Entertainment Weekly that Bond is "behind him."

And while the will he/won’t he soap opera appeared in the gossip columns and entertainment pages, a separate component has been playing out in the business pages. In April, Sony said it wanted to purchase MGM and get its hands on the company’s massive movie library, including the Bond series. Sony even tried, albeit fruitlessly, to start its own Bond franchise in the late ‘90s, claiming rights derived from Kevin McClory’s script. MGM won that legal showdown, but its status as the only remaining independent studio left it an attractive takeover candidate. Or so we thought. However, Sony hasn’t bought MGM despite all the flirtations. Another potential suitor, Time Warner, hasn’t made a move yet either. Why? It’s quite complicated and billions are at stake, so we’ll let the business pages handle that one. (update: A few hours after posting the story, it seems a deal is near.)

The only relevant aspect to Bond fans is that uncertainty is the key word for Bond 21. The unknowns loom large. Who will play Bond? Will someone buy MGM and how would they handle the upcoming Bond film? Who will direct? When will filming start? About the only thing we do know for sure is that the script will be written by Neal Purvis and Robert Wade. Variety has reported a first draft is complete.

During this time there have been a few on-the-record comments, which have been more than drowned out by the steady noise of gossip from every corner of the earth – India, Australia, the UK and the U.S. It seems Bond rumors can crop up from anywhere. The major official comments came in February and April. First, Eon confirmed that Brosnan was not actually signed for a fifth film. Then in April, MGM’s Chief Operating Officer said the actor to play Bond would be announced in the “next few months,” along with a director. He made that announcement just the day before reports were released that Sony was interested in acquiring the studio.

So instead of facts, we’re left with the ever-unreliable stream of reports from various newspapers and gossip columns. Reporting every one of them doesn’t seem like a worthwhile exercise. That’s why we aren’t reporting all of them. We'll probably restrict ourselves to just the ones that reach a certain critical mass and aren't too far-fetched. If it’s just another fill-in-the-blank story about some actor whose agent/friends/dog have said he’s auditioning/signed, we’ll skip it.

quoth_the_raven

09-01-2004, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by bozzy
You have misunderstood me. I am not saying this board which is a very pleasant place to go to and discuss Bond. I am very sure quoth_the_raven has been doing a great job here. Rather I am saying this [From Commanderbond.net] which is reporting and chewing over every trivia as fact..Also I am extremely *DISGUSTED* at the fact that a message posted by some user on a board can be taken seriously by that so called bond site, I am sure alot of ppl share my view...Sorry if I haven't made myself clear..my bad, ranting finished..

I'm sorry for ripping your head off. if memory serves I answered your post a very early hour of the morning and I'm never at my most even-tempered at that time ;)

Zing!

09-14-2004, 04:29 PM

[from CommanderBond.net]

James Bond has a new home -- finally.

After rumour reports last week that Time Warner had closed a deal to purchase MGM and the James Bond franchise, in a twist worthy of a Hollywood movie, Time Warner announced today that it was withdrawing its all-cash bid, and Sony Corp has agreed "in principle" to purchase MGM for $4.8 billion, ending a drama that started back in April when Sony first bid on the historic studio. MGM said its management will recommend the deal, which it called a "proposed merger," to its board by Sept. 27.

Reports say Sony has agreed to pay $12 a share for the studio, which amounts to $2.94 billion. The deal also calls for Sony to assume about $1.9 billion in MGM debt. Sony, backed by Texas Pacific Group and Providence Equity Partners, raised its bid over the weekend, triggering Time Warner's withdrawal. Key to Sony's victory was the last minuet involvement of Comcast Corp., which put no money into the deal but agreed to package Sony and MGM content into a number of as-yet undetermined movie channels and video-on-demand offerings. Sony and Comcast announced that deal in a joint press release after news of the sale broke.

Sony is expected to fold MGM's TV and film production units into Sony Pictures Entertainment. There will be a transition period to accommodate films in the MGM pipeline, but after 2005, that label and the roaring Lion will be put to rest.

Columbia Pictures logo

However, Variety reports tonight that the James Bond franchise will be negotiated under a separate deal with the Broccoli family. The Variety report states that future Bond films will be handled by Sony, but will continue to be released under the MGM name. This means we will definitely see Leo the Lion giving his trademark roar in front of Bond 21 instead of the majestic "Columbia lady" which graces most Sony Pictures Entertainment productions (Sony Corp. bought Columbia Pictures in 1989 for $3.4 billion).

And speaking of Bond 21...

While MGM vice chairman Chris McGurk optimistically claimed Bond 21 was "ahead of schedule" back in April...it's pretty clear now that the extended studio sale talks has set the film's production back, or at least put a gag on official announcements regarding the project. With today's news, one hopes Eon Productions are now free to release details on Bond 21, or at least put an end to the tidal wave of rumours. But it's also conceivable that Bond’s new bosses will want to put their own stamp on the 40-year-old franchise first. Sony, after all, does have a curious history with 007.

In 1997, Sony announced it was going to produce a rival James Bond series utilizing rights acquired from Thunderball/Never Say Never Again producer Kevin McClory. MGM sued and prevailed in an out-of-court settlement which saw the studio awarded not only the disputed Thunderball rights (which included the use of Blofeld and SPECTRE), but also Columbia's long-held rights to Casino Royale (elements of which are reportedly being used in Bond 21). Sony transformed their Bond franchise concept into the Bond-bashing, extreme sport-loving xXx starring Vin Diesel (a sequel, xXx: State of the Union starring Ice Cube and directed by Die Another Day's Lee Tamahori, is set for release in 2005). But now it looks like Sony has finally realized their dreams of producing legitimate 007 movies.

quoth_the_raven

09-14-2004, 06:04 PM

I can't stop thinking the word doomed recently...

Ted Pikul

09-17-2004, 03:14 PM

xXx for all it's faults did at least feature proper stunts so I'm more hopeful.

Anything to reign in Barbara Broccoli is good news in my book.

bob

10-15-2004, 02:28 PM

Personally, I'd like to see a "Clive Owen for James Bond" petition. He screams Bond. He was even Bondesque in Gosford Park, which is about as far from James Bond as he's gotten.

SweetEnLow

10-17-2004, 12:59 PM

My choices are:
Julian Mcmahon
Adrian Paul
Christian Bale
Clive Owen

bob

10-24-2004, 08:36 PM

What does everyone think about Dench and Cleese?

Personally, I like Cleese a lot, his back and forth with Brosnan in DAD was classic, although he can be accused of simply imitating Q.

Dench, on the other hand, I have trouble with. I may be crazy, but she just doesn't seem right in the role. Even after four films, I still am not used to her in that role. Maybe it's because of the awesome job Bernard Lee did, but she just seems off.

max zorin

11-01-2004, 07:58 PM

Imagine Collin Farrell as the next James Bond. Pierce Brosnan feels that Farrell would make an ideal replacement. (CP Entertainment News-Nov 1)

In my mind, Farrell is a diamond in the rough...Although talented, his image is one of being reckless, jumping before thinking. Granted, the stuff you read in the hollywood rags are unconfirmed crap at the best of times, but is it something that would stick with him when he tries for the Bond role.

What do you think? Does he have the charm, the class, the swagger to pull off Bond?

He would be a better choice that Orlando Bloom, not to bring that up again.

If anything, Farrell would make a great adversary for Bond to overcome.

comments....

MZ

Bob;

Thanks for directing me to this thread, appreciate it greatly...

bob

11-02-2004, 06:40 PM

Yeah, I agree with you that Farrell would make a better adversary. He's a bit too rough around the edges to be Bond, but he'd be perfect as the guy trying to steal the girl and cut Bond in half with a laser...

max zorin

11-05-2004, 07:05 PM

[, but he'd be perfect as the guy trying to steal the girl and cut Bond in half with a laser... [/B][/QUOTE]

That was already unsuccessfully attempted by Auric Goldfinger. Although Goldfinger didn't possess the charm or good lucks to steal any girl from anyone, perhaps Farrell could make up for that short coming.

Question to all: What should be the story line (plot) for Bond 21? A lot has already been covered such as Diamond Thieves, Drug Lords, power hungry Media Tycoons, Arms Smugglers, rule the world, oil tycoons, etc etc....What else is there??? Middle East, the quest for a power shift? Lets bounce some ideas around....What would you as Bond fans want to see??

bob

11-06-2004, 05:18 PM

I'm not interested in anything quite as topical as the Middle East. Bond films shouldn't age, and anything involving reconnaisance in Afghanistan will age pretty damn quick.

max zorin

11-07-2004, 05:01 PM

this just in.....

From Big News Network.com

Colin Farrell:
I think Pierce is just messing with me, causing me a lot of grief, Farrell told UPI in a phone interview Sunday. I was doing a job in London last week and I arrived on the set every day and everyone was (humming the 007 theme song.)

Farrell has not entirely dismissed the idea of taking the Bond role if EON productions offers it to him.

The story continues to unfold....film at 11

Ted Pikul

11-07-2004, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by bob
What does everyone think about Dench and Cleese?

Personally, I like Cleese a lot, his back and forth with Brosnan in DAD was classic, although he can be accused of simply imitating Q.

Dench, on the other hand, I have trouble with. I may be crazy, but she just doesn't seem right in the role. Even after four films, I still am not used to her in that role. Maybe it's because of the awesome job Bernard Lee did, but she just seems off.

Dench's M was based on Stella Rimington the real life head of M16 so her casting probably seemed apposite at the time.

You're right though Bernard Lee was peerless.

bob

11-07-2004, 07:36 PM

I thought more about it, and my main problem is that Bernard Lee's M was kind of a father figure for Bond, who had impatience here and there, but you could see the love.

Judi Dench's M just seems to want the man out of her hair.

Ted Pikul

11-08-2004, 11:57 AM

Probably because she's got the hots for 007.

Don't mess with a menopausal woman who's got the horn.;)

max zorin

11-15-2004, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by Ted Pikul
Probably because she's got the hots for 007.

Don't mess with a menopausal woman who's got the horn.;)

I think M probably has the horn for Moneypenny. (There's a picture everyone wanted stuck in their heads...sorry).

But to get back on subject...Brosnan will be on the Ellen Degeneres show Tuesday Nov 16. I know what you are all thinking, but let me get this straight now... the Mrs. watches Ellen, I just heard about it...

he'll probably plug his new film-After the Sunset, but he also might make a reference to being let go...fired...quitting Bond....who knows.

Watch and see......:rolleyes:

max zorin

11-21-2004, 12:20 PM

Mariah Carey to star in Bond 21-

Ok, lets hope not....it would be like having Tanya Roberts in a Bond film all over again....

I can still hear that high pitch shrill..."JAMES DON'T LEAVE ME!!"

It really hurts the ears.

This is according to sources at The San Francisco Examiner...must have been a slow news day...

While I am on the Who's in the Bond 21 subject...

Who the f#@% is Ioan Gruffudd? (Pronounced Yo-an Griffudd, ok..whatever) AKA Mr Fantastic..

Word has it that he is in top spot to be the next James Bond.

When will the madness end???

free

11-25-2004, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by max zorin
When will the madness end???

When the sequels stop making money. ;)

Seriously though, have they narrowed down any canidates to replace Brosnan?

quoth_the_raven

12-15-2004, 02:39 PM

so do we actually have any news at all?

and yes, I'm back ;)

bob

12-15-2004, 04:19 PM

Good to have you back, but I regret to be the one to inform you that at this point, the James Bond franchise is in a state of hibernation too deep to awaken from.

Looks pretty grim to me.

quoth_the_raven

12-16-2004, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by bob
Good to have you back, but I regret to be the one to inform you that at this point, the James Bond franchise is in a state of hibernation too deep to awaken from.

Looks pretty grim to me.

yeah it is looking a tad bleak isnt it? I'm staying hopeful but.....I'm not much good at optimism, so I will want to start seeing something soon...some sign...even a little one.

lalex81

12-27-2004, 12:47 PM

Clive Owen: Has the looks, the class and the voice

Eric Bana: Acting skills and the coolness (Black Hawk Down and in Troy)

Colin Farrell:Cockiness, wildness, new blood.

From these 3 I´ll go with Bana, it´s always better a good actor than a good looking actor.

bob

12-27-2004, 02:12 PM

I'd rank those three like this:

1. Clive Owen
2. Eric Bana
3. Colin Farrel

But Bana has already turned down the role, and I don't like Farrel as Bond. On top of that, I think Clive Owen is freaking perfect for the role in every way; I really hope he gets it.

max zorin

01-06-2005, 11:20 PM

Has anybody heard anything about the next Bond film?

Like Quoth_the_Raven, I am also becoming concerned. There hasn't been a single shred of information since....August. Granted, in 1989, it took six years for EON to release a new Bond flick, but are any of you devoted Bond fans really willing to wait that long?

As for all the speculations for who will take on the role of Bond, it's turning my little mind to mush....it's almost to the point of 'Who Cares?'

I think its time for EON to start leaking some info, anything to keep us interested. If it goes any longer, I think EON will find that a lot of the true Bond fans will have lost interest to the point of abandoning their hero.

I sincerely hope that it doesn't come to that....

Felix Leiter

01-26-2005, 01:02 PM

Last I heard there was a battle going on as to who the new Bond was going to be.

The studio was pushing for an established well know actor like Ewan Mcgregor or Hugh Jackman.

While the Broccoli's wanted someone less well know or evan an unknown.

They evan have established betting odds on who would be the next bond with the favorite being Jackman at 2/1.

My two cents: I want CLive Owen.

max zorin

01-27-2005, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by Felix Leiter

They even have established betting odds on who would be the next bond with the favorite being Jackman at 2/1.

I knew the Bookies in Vegas would wade into this mess sooner or later.

Don't forget, Bond already did Vegas in Diamonds are Forever...and from what I have read from Bob's and other comments in this forum, we all agree with the tagline...

'What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas'

Clive Owen is the best bet for now...Jackman...not a chance...but hey anything can happen.

Felix, welcome to the boards:cool:

Felix Leiter

02-01-2005, 12:04 PM

Actor Dougray Scott is new Bond favourite.

Dougray Scott is favourite with William Hill
Bookmaker William Hill has stopped taking bets on who will be the next James Bond, following a succession of large wagers on actor Dougray Scott.
The firm closed the book on Friday, saying "insider information" could have contributed to the number of bets.

"In the past gambles like this have often been right," William Hill spokesman Rupert Adams said.

The closing list gave Scott odds of 6-9, followed by Oscar nominee Clive Owen at 5-2.

Scott first found fame in the TV series Soldier Soldier and has since then starred in such films as Mission Impossible II and the wartime drama Enigma.

Punter

Mr Adams said one punter had placed a bet of £870 on the 39-year-old actor at odds of 8-1.

"She told us she had some inside information, perhaps she knew he had been to a casting, but she wouldn't say," he said.

Others thought to be in the running include Star Wars actor Ewan McGregor and Australian star Hugh Jackman, both of whom have odds of 4-1. Colin Farrell, Jude Law and Troy star Eric Bana have also been tipped for the role in the past.

JAMES BOND FRONTRUNNERS
1 Dougray Scott - 6/9
2= Clive Owen - 5/2
2= Hugh Jackman - 4/1
4= Ewan McGregor - 4/1
Source: William Hill

A large number of bets on actor Colin Salmon to become the first black James Bond were dismissed as a publicity stunt a month ago.

The next Bond film, originally due for release in 2005, has been delayed until 2006 due to Sony's takeover of the MGM studio. The most recent, Die Another Day, was released in late 2002 and saw Pierce Brosnan make his final appearance as the secret agent.

The actor was originally due to make a fifth appearance as Bond, but was released from his contract in 2004.

If any one finds it interesting Dougray Scott was originally cast as Wolverine in X-men, but had to back out after production ran long on MIssion Impossible 2. Jackman should fall to his knees and thank John Woo and Tom Cruise

It would be cool to see this guy get a sort of second chance at a role that could really launch his career to a new level.

"A Genuine Felix Leiter"
http://imdb.com/gallery/granitz/1512/Events/1512/DougraySco_Vespa_599972_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Scott,%20Dougray

bob

02-01-2005, 06:37 PM

The idea of a black James Bond is quite interesting, I'd like to see that in the future...

Scott tends to look too evil sometimes. I'm still for Clive Owen.

Felix Leiter

02-03-2005, 03:24 PM

21st James Bond Film is Casino Royale
Source: MGM February 3, 2005

Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, producers of the James Bond films, and MGM announced today that Martin Campbell will direct Casino Royale, the 21st film in the 007 franchise.

This is Campbell's second time as helmer of a James Bond film. In 1995 he directed the hit Goldeneye which introduced Pierce Brosnan to the role of 007 with great success.

Wilson and Broccoli said: "We are thrilled that Martin has accepted our offer to direct 'Casino Royale'. He is an extremely talented director and we believe he will help take our films in a new and exciting direction. He is currently finishing filming 'Legend Of Zorro', the sequel to 'The Mask Of Zorro', and will be joining EON Productions shortly to work on the development of the script with our writers, Neal Purvis and Robert Wade."

MGM Vice Chairman and COO Chris McGurk said: "Martin is an incredibly exciting filmmaker. 'Goldeneye' was a wonderful movie and helped reinvigorate the Bond franchise. We're thrilled to have him back to direct the newest Bond."

Born in New Zealand, Campbell moved to England in 1966 and made his directorial debut on the popular TV series' The Professionals and Minder. He moved to America in 1986 to direct Criminal Law and Defenceless. Following Goldeneye, he went on to direct The Mask Of Zorro, Vertical Limit and Beyond Borders and is currently directing Legend Of Zorro.

Casino Royale will be released in 2006 and distributed world-wide by MGM. No decision has yet been made regarding casting for the role of 'James Bond'.

I think it's great that they are tapping into the Fleming originals again. It's hard to believe that the first Bond Novel isn't getting an official addaptaion until the 21st film.

Good job tabbing Martin Campbell again too. Now all we need is our Bond (Clive Owen) and we can start the hype machine.

Without giving any spoilers it will be interesting to see how close the movie is to the book. Especially the ending.

APzombie

02-09-2005, 08:03 PM

Pleeeeeeaaaaase get Clive Owen, they can't pull that "already established name" shit with him, he's got an oscar nom!

donna542004

02-09-2005, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by APzombie
Pleeeeeeaaaaase get Clive Owen, they can't pull that "already established name" shit with him, he's got an oscar nom!

If they are going to do this. Then I will go with Clive Owen. I would love to see a darker Bond. And he could pull it off.
Donna A.

Marcelo

03-04-2005, 05:29 PM

It has happened many times that an actor has come back in another bond film as a different character. The girl from Octopussy played the bond girl in The Man With The Golden Gun, Joe Don Baker played a bad guy in The Living Daylights and died. Then he appeared as bond's ally in Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies. The villian in Diamonds Are Forever came back as an informant for bond in You Only Live Twice. So I was thinking that something I would like to see is a former Bond to come back as a villian. Like Sean Connery or Roger Moore. What are your thoghts?

Felix Leiter

03-05-2005, 12:21 PM

I don't think I would like that. It would be hard to watch it and in some way not root for the bad guy. Connery and moore are so identifiable to all us bond fans that I just don't think it would work.

On the other hand I have always thought it would be nice to see George Lazenby pop back in a cameo as a british admiral or contempory of M.

While I'm at it by the way. Get rid of Joe Don Baker and Michael Madsen as the wimpy CIA connections, and bring back a hard pipe hittin' CIA agent like Jack Lord's Felix Leiter.

Marcelo

03-05-2005, 12:47 PM

Think about it though. Sean Connery's comeback as a villian. He has the charm and wit from him being OO7. Maybe the storline could be that he worked for MI6 a long time ago and there have been a seiries of attacks on major politicians and Connery could be the one behind it.

Your thoughts guys?

bob

03-05-2005, 04:02 PM

I think he could pull it off. But they'd need a ridiculously charming Bond (coughcliveowencough) to share the screen with Connery.

HM Murdock

03-15-2005, 07:40 AM

I don't know if this is old news (I didn't hear about it 'till now) but Quentin Tarantino has dropped his plans to direct CR as Brosnan is out. I didn't know Tarantino was thinking about directing. He did raise some good points though espcially saying that Bond should go back to like the books, not like the gritty style MGM are going for next. Here's the full article from IMDB:

Maverick film-maker Quentin Tarantino abandoned plans to direct the next James Bond film after Pierce Brosnan was fired by studio heads. The Kill Bill director was devastated when he learned Brosnan's stint as 007 had come to a premature end - following a row with movie bosses over money - because he deemed the Irish actor the perfect Bond. And Tarantino reacted to the news by informing producers he would no longer be a part of the Casino Royale remake. He says, "I would have liked to do Casino Royale with Pierce. But once I heard Brosnan isn't going to be doing any more Bond films, that killed it as far as I was concerned. He's really proven himself to me as the James Bond for this generation. He can really pull off that 60s thing that Casino Royale would have. It should be more like the original book."

bob

03-15-2005, 06:41 PM

Nice to see Tarantino sticking to his guns like that, although I was never completely won over by that idea in the first place.

optimus

04-04-2005, 01:54 PM

I found this at moviehole.net.

"[i]Bond producers want Brosnan back?[i/]
Posted on Mon, 4-Apr-2005

After all the rumours, all the speculation, those gazillion auditions, and of course, bad blood, is Piece Brosnan able to return to the Bond franchise?

According to a scooper for Dark Horizons, Sony are apparently looking at snagging Brosnan back, fearing a newcomer to the series might be a bit of a cinematic wound - a'la bringing in Timothy Dalton in the late 80's.

"...ultimately, the filmmakers would like Pierce Brosnan back. All the stuff we heard about Brosnan being out is just a ploy from both camps. The negotiations between Brosnan and Eon came to an end because, in the last year, things were up in the air, thanks to all the organizational changes taking place", says a scooper for the site.

"Brosnan/Eon camps are still going through the motions of bluffing each other: an echo of the old poker game that Cubby Broccoli went through with Roger Moore. Moore frequently announced that he wouldn't be back".

Apparently, "the mood around here (at least for now) is that he'll be back. Hence, the reluctance of the filmmakers to come right out and announce that they have parted ways with Brosnan. If anything, they've kept the door open by not making any casting announcements in the recent press release. So much money is at stake and the word is, SONY are not in a gambling mood. They could lose more with an unknown actor, or with an experienced but unpopular actor. They're well aware that you just can't place any actor in this role; and with Brosnan's star power and successful track record ($1 billion from four films), he's currently the strong money-maker for the Bond films".

The scooper says it's likely Brosnan will be reinstated for "Casino Royale" and possible Bond 22 as well.

Watch this Space. "

Interesting....

EvilEd

04-04-2005, 02:02 PM

Hells yes! Brosnan back is a very good thing! Brosnan and Campbell back working together, the Goldeneye team back! Awesome stuff!

ilovemovies

04-05-2005, 07:44 PM

Sorry to burst the bubble but as awsome as this news would have been, Entertainment Tonight just confirmed that this is NOT true, just a rumor. And the search for the new James Bond continues.

Felix Leiter

04-06-2005, 05:45 PM

British actor Daniel Craig picked as new James Bond

Wed Apr 6, 7:49 AM ET Entertainment - AFP

LONDON (AFP) - The producers of the hugely successful James Bond film franchise have chosen British actor Daniel Craig to take over the role of the suave super-spy, a report said.

The 37-year-old has been offered a three-film deal by Bond producer Barbara Broccoli and is expected to sign up formally in the next few weeks, The Sun newspaper reported Wednesday.

Craig, a tough-looking character actor who has mixed up appearances in many art-house titles with roles in blockbusters such as "Lara Croft: Tomb Raider", just beat fellow Briton Clive Owen for the role, the report said.

Craig would be the sixth Bond in the official series of films based on the novels by Ian Fleming, following Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and most recent incumbent Pierce Brosnan.

According to The Sun, Owen -- nominated for an Oscar this year for film "Closer" -- had told casting agents he did not want the job, although Broccoli was already favouring Craig.

While Craig remains relatively unknown outside Britain, he is well respected as an actor and also has the necessary reputation for being something of a Bond-esque ladies man, having recently dated supermodel Kate Moss.

Citing an unnamed "movie source", The Sun said that staff working at Eon Productions, which makes the Bond movies, had been told Craig would star in the next films.

"Daniel is the new 007. He is going through the deal with his lawyers. It's a big commitment for a minimum of 10 years, but he has indicated he will take the job," the source said.

Brosnan's last film as Bond was "Die Another Day" in 2002. Since then a string of possible replacements have been mooted, including Britons Jude Law and Ewan McGregor and Australian actors Hugh Jackman and Eric Bana.

Fleming's novels chronicling the adventures of the British spy codenamed 007 were first turned into a film in 1962, with "Dr No".

bob

04-06-2005, 06:38 PM

Just from his looks, I think it's a poor choice. He looks like a complete fop.

optimus

04-07-2005, 07:02 AM

I agree bob. What the fuck are they thinking?

HM Murdock

04-07-2005, 10:56 AM

I posted these pictures in another Bond thread but I'll put them here so people can see what Craig actually looks like.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2004/11/25/images/daniel_craig_enduring_love_interview_top.jpg

http://www.cinefile.biz/tombr12.jpg

He doesn't look like a Bond. They could have done alot better but I'm hoping to be proved wrong.

donna542004

04-07-2005, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by HM Murdock
I posted these pictures in another Bond thread but I'll put them here so people can see what Craig actually looks like.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2004/11/25/images/daniel_craig_enduring_love_interview_top.jpg

http://www.cinefile.biz/tombr12.jpg

He doesn't look like a Bond. They could have done alot better but I'm hoping to be proved wrong.

He looks older than 37. I have seen pictures of him. I thought he was closer to 50. I was surprise to find out that he was not even 40. What ever he is smoking he better put it down and start eating better.
Donna A.

Felix Leiter

04-07-2005, 12:21 PM

Blond. James Blond.

I know Roger Moore wasn't the dark haired spy that we all probably think of, but this guy looks like he should be playing a nazi in a Indiana Jones film.

While I like the idea of a more or less unknown actor for the role, I do wish they would have chosen some one younger that could really make a run at lasting multiple picture. So many people associate Moore with being "The" Bond simply because he did it for so long and had time to make the character his own.

I have faith that they have made a good and maybe even great choice for the role. I just would like to see some one who could stick around for at least five films.

Felix Leiter

04-07-2005, 12:35 PM

Go to the trailers section and check out the new trailer for "Layer Cake"

Craig narrates over the whole thing so you can hear how he sounds, and also there is a quick moment where he does the classic Bond pose.

donna542004

04-07-2005, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by Felix Leiter
Go to the trailers section and check out the new trailer for "Layer Cake"

Craig narrates over the whole thing so you can hear how he sounds, and also there is a quick moment where he does the classic Bond pose.

I really could care less who gets the part. I am not a purest like the rest. Craig may be a good choice. I have to admit I haven't much of his stuff. But I would go and see him as Bond. I would go see it if they put Danny Devito as Bond. Danny could bring something different to the movie. :D
Donna A.

Felix Leiter

04-07-2005, 02:41 PM

Danny Devito as Bond. Danny could bring something different to the movie.

You mean something like:

"The name's Bond. Jame...Hey! look at me when I'm talking to you. Down here!
:)

donna542004

04-07-2005, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Felix Leiter
You mean something like:

"The name's Bond. Jame...Hey! look at me when I'm talking to you. Down here!
:)

He could kick some ass--okay maybe some shins. And just think how the ladies will go for him. It may take some money on his part. But I am sure the ladies will love him up. More like down.
Donna A.:)

Felix Leiter

04-07-2005, 03:07 PM

I can see it now.

The villan could be Emmanuel Lewis. Verne Troyer could be Q.

It could be "Under the Rainbow" for a new generation.

P.s. If anyone actually knows "under the rainbow" I want you to know that i feel your pain and I am here for you.

The "genuine Felix Leiter".

donna542004

04-07-2005, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Felix Leiter
I can see it now.

The villan could be Emmanuel Lewis. Verne Troyer could be Q.

It could be "Under the Rainbow" for a new generation.

P.s. If anyone actually knows "under the rainbow" I want you to know that i feel your pain and I am here for you.

The "genuine Felix Leiter".

I can see now. Top grossing film of all time!
Donna A.

Felix Leiter

04-07-2005, 04:01 PM

http://C:\Documents and Settings\kjames\My Documents\My Pictures\carmichael.jpg

Interestingly enough I can see a resemblance between Craig and Hoagy Carmichael who Fleming said was who he pictured in his mind as James Bond when he first started writting the novels.

Let the justification begin.

The"Genuine Felix Leiter"

optimus

04-26-2005, 11:49 AM

Here is an article from moviehole.net. 'M' herself even believes that Brosnan will be back. One can only hope.

Dame Judi Dench on the next 007
Posted on Tue, 26-Apr-2005

The New York Post spoke to Judi Dench, 'M' from the recent Bond blockies, who had something interesting to say about who'll be playing the next James Bond.

Clive? Daniel? Ioan? Hugh? Pauly? Nope - Dame Judi seems to think that Pierce Brosnan is indeed going to be in front of a lens for "Casino Royale".

Says the actress, "Despite the fact that everyone on the face of the Earth has been tested as his possible replacement, he'll be doing it again, and it'll be announced come summer."

Interestingly enough, one of the men rumoured to be replacing Brosnan, Daniel Craig, announced last week that such rumours were inaccurate.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if EON recruits the chesty Brosnan back - if even due to the internet backlash arising from his tasteless dumping from the franchise.

Watch this creamy coloured space.

Thanks to CommanderBond.net for the heads up!

donna542004

04-26-2005, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by optimus
Here is an article from moviehole.net. 'M' herself even believes that Brosnan will be back. One can only hope.

Dame Judi Dench on the next 007
Posted on Tue, 26-Apr-2005

The New York Post spoke to Judi Dench, 'M' from the recent Bond blockies, who had something interesting to say about who'll be playing the next James Bond.

Clive? Daniel? Ioan? Hugh? Pauly? Nope - Dame Judi seems to think that Pierce Brosnan is indeed going to be in front of a lens for "Casino Royale".

Says the actress, "Despite the fact that everyone on the face of the Earth has been tested as his possible replacement, he'll be doing it again, and it'll be announced come summer."

Interestingly enough, one of the men rumoured to be replacing Brosnan, Daniel Craig, announced last week that such rumours were inaccurate.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if EON recruits the chesty Brosnan back - if even due to the internet backlash arising from his tasteless dumping from the franchise.

Watch this creamy coloured space.

Thanks to CommanderBond.net for the heads up!

I wouldn't mind seeing him doing one more Bond.
Donna A.

bob

05-15-2005, 01:07 PM

Cast anyone! Just start working on the fucking film!!

Alej The Mute

05-30-2005, 04:44 AM

It was sad to read that Clive Owen supposedly "didn't want to do it". He'd be the PERFECT next Bond, as many have said. I think I was cemented in this opinion by his badass work in Sin City.

It would be great if these rumors of Brosnan coming back were true, because Daniel Craig doesn't look like he'd have what it'd take to "rejuvenate" the franchise like Pierce did with Goldeneye.

bob

05-30-2005, 12:43 PM

Yeah, come to think of it...it's really not Owen's type of role. He doesn't seem the type to go in for pigeonholing himself as one character for the rest of his career....

But he'd be so fucking good at it...

donna542004

05-30-2005, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by bob
Yeah, come to think of it...it's really not Owen's type of role. He doesn't seem the type to go in for pigeonholing himself as one character for the rest of his career....

But he'd be so fucking good at it...

He does like doing different things. Which is good.
Donna A.

bob

06-28-2005, 02:12 PM

Now I'm taking the lack of progress personally.

Their lack of casting, script-accepting, and generally continued fucking up has turned this into the deadest forum in Joblo's history. And no one...but no one...messes with Bond fans.

max zorin

07-02-2005, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by bob
Now I'm taking the lack of progress personally.

Their lack of casting, script-accepting, and generally continued fucking up has turned this into the deadest forum in Joblo's history. And no one...but no one...messes with Bond fans.

Does anyone really think, with all the sweet fuck all that's going on over at EON, that they will get Bond 21 into the Theaters by November 2006??

All the speculation about who will be the next Bond, the storyline of the movie, the sinister larger than life villian is getting old....

To the people in charge at EON.....Let's see some ACTION!!! Get off your FUCKING hands and do something!

I feel better now, thank you

bigred760

08-15-2005, 12:06 PM

Well, Hugh Jackman ain't gonna be Bond. Apparently he declined a 3-picture deal to star as the man in tux. Reports say that he was either to busy or he just didn't want to be typecast (which is kinda funny if you ask me: <cough> <Wolverine>). At least the field is narrowing down.

I'd still like to see Daniel Craig take the role.

optimus

09-13-2005, 02:02 PM

From Moviehole.net

Is Brosnan back as 007?
Posted on Tue, 13-Sep-2005

The producers of the James Bond franchise are apparently having so much trouble finding someone to slip into 007's trousers that they might be coaxing Pierce Brosnan back to the role.

According to Bond fansite MI6, Brosnan is set to return as James Bond in "Casino Royale" if studio pressure holds out.

Sources say Brosnan was dumped from Bond because he was asking for too much money - that's hogwash, says the actor.

Brosnan was apparently only chasing £10 million to reprise the role of the suave super-agent. "Given what the films make it was a spit in the bucket", he said recently.

The site says that Sony are having a hard time trying to find a replacement for the star of Bond hits "Goldeneye", "Tommorrow Never Dies", "The World is Not Enough" and "Die Another Day" and most at the studio are keen for fluffy-chest to return.

"Sony are pulling their hair out over it, apparently. I was in their offices just a few weeks ago pitching Thomas Crown 2. They said, "come back" and I said "it's not up to me, guys", Brosnan tells.

"I think I was caught up between the egos of the producers and the studios, really. They (the producers) didn't know whether to go younger, they didn't know what to do, period. I don't know what the truth is. It could be as honest as that, but it seems strange, especially as each film made more and more money."

MI6 say that it's looking very likely that Brosnan is going to return. Says the site, "Brosnan is now the top contender for the role of James Bond in "Casino Royale" after all, due to studio pressure and the lack of an obvious candidate to replace him".

Aaaand...the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round...

JUST FUCKING PICK SOMEONE!!!!!