Am I the only one that thinks Lord of the Rings looks like crap?

[MovieFreak15]

It must just be me, but I think Lord of the Rings looks like one of the worst movies ever made. The trailer is stupid and almost laughable. I mean, the main character's name is Frodo, what kind of stupid ass name is Frodo!? I'm sure that it will do very well at the box-office, but I am curious if there is anyone out there that actually agrees with me.

[dicaprio_travolta_man]

Sorry man, even though I am not a Lord Of The Rings fanatic, I am with everyone else when they say it look's like one of the best if not the best movie of the year.. I am really looking forward to seeing it, the trailer is probaly the best I have seen since Gladiator, The hype is huge, the acting is supposed to really solid.. And from what i have read in the book's there are no plotholes whatsoever. In fact I want to see it so bad, that I have an advance ticket already for Saturday, the 22nd at 12:20pm.. Lord Of The Rings is going to be a kickass, fun to watch movie....

[Nate6]

Well, I'm not going to get all righteous and say that LotR will be the best movie ever made, because some people on here are already like that, but you have to realize that LotR is a fantasy. It's not supposed to look real, and the character name of Frodo is total fiction. You know, someday that may be a common name and names like Bill and Dave could be considered weird.

I know what I'm talking about because I jokingly agreed with a comment on here that LotR looked like something NBC would air during May sweeps and people got up my ass with a rubber hose. I was just having a bad day when I said tht the books were overrated, etc. (I was pretty sick, not really sick, but flu-sick). They really are great books and should make great movies.

So no, it doesn't look stupid IMHO, it looks, what's the word? Fun! Different! That's what the movies are all about, after all.

[Mike Damone]

I totally understand your point of view MovieFreak. I mean this movie is totally gonna suck. I can't believe they would give a character a name like Frodo, it is by far the worst decision ever made. If you can't realize my sarcasm, then maybe I should be more direct. This movie is going to be great. The trailers have all looked awesome, and the name Frodo is just as ridiculous as Yoda (nobody laughs about his name now). I can't even imagine the story with common names. It would be ridiculous if everyone were Bob's, Steve's, etc.

[This message has been edited by Mike Damone (edited 12-11-2001).]

[dicaprio_travolta_man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike Damone:
It would be rediculous if everyone were Bob's, Steve's, etc.</font>

Man, my name is not Ridiculas, i'm Steve, you got a problem with that young man http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

[SAI]

Movie freak, with respect, what you are saying makes no sense to me.

To say that a film is going to be bad based on nothing but the name of it's main character is, frankly, faintly ridiculous.

Westly is not a common name, does that make The Princess Bride rubbish?

Banky is not a name I've heard before, does this mean Chasing Amy is not funny?

Tell me that there IS some other factor that you are basing you pre-judgement of this film on.

[MovieFreak15]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SAI:
Movie freak, with respect, what you are saying makes no sense to me.

To say that a film is going to be bad based on nothing but the name of it's main character is, frankly, faintly ridiculous.

Westly is not a common name, does that make The Princess Bride rubbish?

Banky is not a name I've heard before, does this mean Chasing Amy is not funny?

Tell me that there IS some other factor that you are basing you pre-judgement of this film on.</font>

I'm not saying that the film looks bad, just because of the main character's name. I think the film looks stupid because plot is pretty stupid, the characters suck, and the special effects look laughable. I mean, this film looks like it is on the same par as Battlefield Earth and Dungeons and Dragons. And I really hope that this film is not considered a "classic." By the way, I have read the books (and I didn't like them).

[MovieFreak15]

Oh, by the way, I know a lot of people named Westly, and The Princess Bride was a very good movie.

[wilo]

Moviefreak!! It looks that up to now no one else feels like you about LOTR!! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

By the way! I do not agree with you either!! The trailer are awesoem, the story is a classic and the names sound weird or lame for you, because they are names used on a fantasy/fiction story with mithological backgrounds! That is why they sound different!! But soon the y will stop sounding uncommon, cause soon everybode whether they like it or not, will be hearing a lot more about LOTR.

Wilo

[dicaprio_travolta_man]

I'm going to have to admit that Frodo is a wierd nmae (That's the way it need's to be) but you know what that's just a minor detail, I mean shit Maximus is a wierd name but I loved Gladiator! Obi-Wan is also a pretty starnge name but the Star Wars trilogy kick's ass....

[Tuukka]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MovieFreak15:
It must just be me, but I think Lord of the Rings looks like one of the worst movies ever made. The trailer is stupid and almost laughable. I mean, the main character's name is Frodo, what kind of stupid ass name is Frodo!? I'm sure that it will do very well at the box-office, but I am curious if there is anyone out there that actually agrees with me.</font>

RE: I'm sure there are people who agree with you, but you're gonna be in a very small minority. LOTR is the most critically acclaimed movie of the year so far and it has a good change of becoming the most commercially popular movie of the year.

I wonder what your taste in movies is like? I hope you are not going to go head and say how much Star Wars rocks... Without seeing any of the original SW movies it would be easy to say that they look just as "dumb", if not dumber, than LOTR.

[MovieFreak15]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tuukka:
RE: I wonder what your taste in movies is like? I hope you are not going to go head and say how much Star Wars rocks... Without seeing any of the original SW movies it would be easy to say that they look just as "dumb", if not dumber, than LOTR.

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No, I am not a Star Wars fan (the first one was ok, but the rest sucked). Just to let you know, some of my favorite movies of the last couple of years are The Green Mile, Frequency, The Patriot, The Sixth Sense, and Cast Away. Just for the record, I think I am going to see Lord of the Rings, just to make sure that my assumption is correct.

[SubMethod]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MovieFreak15:
It must just be me, but I think Lord of the Rings looks like one of the worst movies ever made. The trailer is stupid and almost laughable. I mean, the main character's name is Frodo, what kind of stupid ass name is Frodo!? I'm sure that it will do very well at the box-office, but I am curious if there is anyone out there that actually agrees with me.</font>

What do you suggest they do? Change the name of Frodo to something like Bob, and still have Gandalf and Arwyn(sp?). In case you dont know LOTR is a book trilogy written by J.R.R. Tolkien. I dont think it would be a good idea to change the name of a character from the arguably best fantasy book ever written.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Well, I applaud you for AT LEAST, checking to see if your theory is unfounded. Thats the first step to becoming a fanboy. hehe Now I know you can have your opinion on the characters and story, but you cant dog the special-effects. Im sorry, but there just isnt much room for opinion in that field. Although im not saying the movie will be good just because of the great SE, because I love the story and the characters even more. Its just all a matter of opinion, and I look forward to reading your thoughts on the film when I make the Official Fellowship of the Ring thread. .......cheap advertising I called dibs on it, just so you all know.

[LordKaruku]

MovieFreak15, check this out:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/movie-1108476/

It seems pretty certain that "the plot is pretty stupid, the characters suck" should not be one of your concerns.

[Ender]

No, your not alone in that respect, but you are in the distinct minority. I think a name is an awfully inconsequential thing to pick apart a movie with, but that's your opinion I suppose.

[Common Sense Man]

You may think that Frodo is a screwed up name but Tolkien was not only and English Prof but also a linguist so he did not simply make up the name Frodo.

All the stuff in the books such as the script he created and the languages as well as the names are based on his knowledge of language and the history of languages.

And in my opinion modern names would have sounded worse.

Out.....

[FreakArtist]

Dear MovieFreak,
I think you should read the book and then tell us about the movie. I read the book two years ago and it was the best book I ever read. The movie will probably be great, just a new fantasy saga. I'm not a fan of fantasy but ... this will rock man, I'm telling you.

[MovieFreak15]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Common Sense Man:
All the stuff in the books such as the script he created and the languages as well as the names are based on his knowledge of language and the history of languages.

And in my opinion modern names would have sounded worse.

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Just to let you know, I am not saying a name like Bob or Mike would be better. It's just that it is very hard to take a movie seriously when the main character's name is as stupid as Frodo.

[Scorchlord]

That's the most ridiculous thing I've EVER heard. Like Luke Skywalker isn't a dumb name. Or Obi-Wan Kenobi. Or Tyler Durden. Please.

Saying a movie is hard to take seriously because the lead character has a DIFFERENT name (stupid is an opinion) is, frankly, as close-minded as the members of the 700 Club.

[ak]

I see nothing the matter with Frodo. If his name was Hinklebinkle Dunkleweesel then surely we'd shoot someone.
Frodo has a distinct twang to it that I like. Short, simple, poetic, will sell a lot of merchandise.
By the way, if you don't like his name, then I doubt your going to like a single name in the entire film - Merriadoc, Samwise Gamgee, Pippin and the like.

[LennysLeggs]

MovieFreak,

You said that you read the LOTR books and didn't like them, out of curiosity, what type of books do you like? Are you not a fan of the fantasy genre, or just those books in particular??

48hrs to go untill my LOTR hits the screen!!!!!

[ScottFocker]

I don't think it looks very good but I will still see it tomorrow.

[Irene Manor]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MovieFreak15:
... The Sixth Sense, and Cast Away. Just for the record, I think I am going to see Lord of the Rings, just to make sure that my assumption is correct.</font>


You should give it a chance, even though it sounds like you've already decided that you won't like it. (ie, "...just to make sure that my assumption is correct.)

I just wanted to point out, to you, that me, myself, and many other people I know, all avoided THE SIXTH SENSE because we thought that the trailer looked so frigging lame. "I see dead people." Everytime I would here that kid say that I would go, "Ah jeez..." And then Bruce Willis acted like he was going to be like John McClain and wipe out the dead people like they were holding up a hotel.

Then, I saw the movie, and was very happy to learn that you can't always judge a movie by it's trailer.


Frodo sounds sort of like Fonzie.


I do think that the Burger King commercial makes the names sound really silly, when they are like, "Gandolf, the wizard." It reminds me of the old Gauntlet video games. "Frodo need food badly!"

So forceful...

[Common Sense Man]

Well I think you can officially close down this post as LOTR kicked some serious ass.

I think any honest person, fan or no would be hard pressed to say that this movie sucked after seeing it.

Will some like it more than others, sure. But this is the best most enjoyable movie I have seen it years.

Out.......

[Irene Manor]

The dipstick movie reviewer on the local TV news said he didn't like it, and said that he would be happy with out parts 2 and 3.


Then he gave it a B+ rating......

[FlickJunkie]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Irene Manor:
The dipstick movie reviewer on the local TV news said he didn't like it, and said that he would be happy with out parts 2 and 3.

Then he gave it a B+ rating......</font>

That seems to happen way too much, Critics saying they didn't like it, yet it gets "good" grades of like around 3 stars or B- or above or soemthing like that...

Me, personally on the whole LOTR shit, I don't think it looks like crap but I do think it doesn't look any better than about 7/10 or 8/10 material, definitely looks overrated already...

[herculeez]

I can't personally see how someone doens't like the whole LOTR fantasy!
The names (altho shouldn't be relevant to judging a movie) are stunning...i think the females names in the movie just brings them off as being even more beautiful in your mind as they were set out to be.
The story is like glue, you cna't take yourself away form it whilst reading it, it has so much detail and it just provides you with the setting so much that you oculd not falter it.
This film will be very good, i assume this now due to all of the tv spots and trailers i have seen, it looks stunning, the special effects cannot be mocked, what about the makeup?!
The Orcs look simply stunning!
I am yet to flaw this movie...granted i ahve not seen it yet and surely i will find a flaw, but still Movie Freak?!
You're a fucking freak and you're probably on your own in the world when you say:

"I think Lord of the Rings looks like one of the worst movies ever made. The trailer is stupid and almost laughable. I mean, the main character's name is Frodo, what kind of stupid ass name is Frodo!? "

[MovieFreak15]

I am yet to flaw this movie...granted i ahve not seen it yet and surely i will find a flaw, but still Movie Freak?!
You're a fucking freak and you're probably on your own in the world when you say:

"I think Lord of the Rings looks like one of the worst movies ever made. The trailer is stupid and almost laughable. I mean, the main character's name is Frodo, what kind of stupid ass name is Frodo!? "

[/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, apparently no one agrees with me and it makes me very upset to realize how weird of taste people have in movies. There have been many good movies over the years that have gotten terrible reviews and have done so poorly at the box-office. Many of you will also disagree with me when I say Erin Brockovich was a boring piece of crap, and also when I say that Saving Private Ryan was stupid and boring. Just to let you guys know, Lord of the Rings did pull in a good $18.2 million opening day, but you must realize that Jurassic Park III pulled in $19.1 million. It made $50.8 for the weekend. So, I think it looks like Lord of the Rings may still do a little better by making $55 million.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Jurassic Park 3 also opened on more screens, and was shorter by about an hour and a half. I could care less about B.O. as long as it makes enough to cover all three films, and than some. Anyways, Jurassic Park also didnt get this much praise, and the film does deserve it. Wether you think it was great or just good, there is no denying the fact that it is a great film.

[Ender]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Common Sense Man:
Well I think you can officially close down this post as LOTR kicked some serious ass.

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Well said. I admire you for sticking to your guns here MovieFreak, but I think you're off base, and a whole lot of people seem to agree with me.

[Claymore]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Common Sense Man:
I think any honest person, fan or no would be hard pressed to say that this movie sucked after seeing it.
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Here I am: a fan, and disappointed, mainly in the technical aspects - poor special effects, and some awful casting, especially where elves were involved. And as for those refugees from "The Mummy"...

[Tuukka]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Claymore:
Here I am: a fan, and disappointed, mainly in the technical aspects - poor special effects, and some awful casting, especially where elves were involved. And as for those refugees from "The Mummy"...</font>

But you gave the film 7/10 in the "what did you think?" forum. Does 7/10 qualify as crap? Joblo gave it 7/10 as well and he seemed to like it.

[Claymore]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tuukka:
But you gave the film 7/10 in the "what did you think?" forum. Does 7/10 qualify as crap? Joblo gave it 7/10 as well and he seemed to like it.</font>

I went in to the theatre expecting to give it a 10. The trailer was excellent, everything I'd heard was excellent, and as the prologue ran, I was happy. But as the movie got further in, I kept finding things that irked me, and made me rather disappointed. At the end of the day, I enjoyed the movie, and thought it was good - but I was disappointed.

Movies I'd seen recently were better, as a consistent whole - I gave Harry Potter and Shrek a 9.

[Scorchlord]

I still don't see how you could be upset with the casting.

[dasindon]

"WHOPPER WITH CHEESE, LARGE FRY, 2 COKES, SNOW CONE, add the pickles, add the pickles, add the pickles, chicken tenders, sweet and sour sauce...all over my body!"

[FlickJunkie]

Here is what I hafta say about it. I don't think the movie looks like crap, I'm just sooooo fuckin' sick of hearing about it. Though I haven't seen it, I am planning on it though, I can tell you right now that I, personally, already know it's overrated...

It looks like an 7/10 or 8/10 movie to me and most likely will be. I don't picture myself giving it a 10/10. I didn't even give Harry Potter a 10/10 and I loved the books. I gave Harry Potter a 9/10 though http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

[This message has been edited by FlickJunkie (edited 12-24-2001).]

[Common Sense Man]

I am sort of confused.

How do you expect to give it an 8/10 and think it is overrated.

I think some need to rethink their scores. As many say it was good but not great then give it a 8 or 9 of 10. Strange.

If I thought it was good but not great I would have given it a 5 or lower, as 5 is middle of the road.

I really do not think it was overhyped. If you did not actually seek out information there was not much around.

I did not even start seeing trailers on TV until very late in the game. Many other flicks have been promoted for months on end. And I have only seen two product tie ins.

Yes it was hyped to hell and back on the web but you can ignore that if you wish as I did so I would not know too much.

But back to the thread topic. I never thought it looked like it would suck and for those that say it looked like NBC's Tenth Kingdom all I can say to that is see it then apologize for your error.

Out......

[FlickJunkie]

To me, I follow JoBlo's rating system except on some of it and this is what each number means to me, and most will be the same as JoBlo's...

10 - Perfect, one of my fave films
9 - Excellent, not quite perfect
8 - Great movie..
7 - Good movie
6 - High okay that's almost a good movie
5 - Low okay that's almost a "not-good move"
4 - Not Good
3 - Sucky Movie
2 - CRAP
1 - GARBAGE - one of the worst movies I've ever seen...

So, like I said, I think LOTRs looks like a good movie, but it doesn't look to be an excellent or perfect movie like almost every person who's seen it claims...

[Scorchlord]

If you think every single person who has seen it calls it perfect, then you obviously aren't paying attention.

And if you're going into it expecting it to be overrated and already grading it WITHOUT SEEING IT, then you're totally killing the experience from the getgo.

[FlickJunkie]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scorchlord:
If you're going into it expecting it to be overrated and already grading it WITHOUT SEEING IT, then you're totally killing the experience from the getgo.</font>

Don't matter to me, if that's what I come out thinkin then that's cool... I don't really care about LOTR anyway...

[Scorchlord]

And you're saying you think it'll be a good movie but overrated already...you are making very little sense.