Whats the best "Movie about making a movie"?

[The Shadow]

My favorite is probably Bowfinger http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

What's yours?

[SIREN30]

I don't know of any movies about making movies but there are a lot of "behind the scenes" films like TOOTSIE and SOAPDISH that are hilarious.

[max]

Truffaut's DAY FOR NIGHT
THE STUNT MAN

[CrowTRobot]

without a doubt, the best are

The Player

Eight 1/2

two of my favorite movies. brilliance!

Altman was called in to direct a script based on the novel by Michael Tolkin, and The Player is perhaps one of the wittiest satires ever to mock the fallacy of confusing "mass entertainment" with "art" ever. A million brilliant details make this movie golden, hilarious. Altman called everyone in hollywood he knew, and most of them appear in the film AS THEMSELVES, a real cameo fest - there are dozens of them. The Bruce Willis/ Julia roberts bit is too precious, and at the same time so savage! I cnat believe they agreed to do what they did for altman and ape themselves. I could go on a lot, but i'll save it for when i have more time.

Fellini's opus Eight 1/2 is a cinematic delight. Taking up similar themes to The Player, Fellini made a movie about the splendour of making a movie, and how that gets bogged down by "thinking about the creative process too much" and expectations, as well. Indulgence with meaning, and a true classic. An honest film. Often painfully, often hilariously honest. And autobiographical.

[Donnie_Darko]

State and Main... hands down.

[Antonio]

ED WOOD

[Jasonite]

Day For Night is probably the best, I enjoyed Bowfinger the most. By the way the Player is not about making a movie, it's about Hollywood, much the same as Swimming With Sharks.

J

[dicaprio_travolta_man]

Ed Wood and State and Main

[Raw Chili]

Ed Wood, and Bowfinger

[idealdiscountdude]

Shadow Of The Vampire

It's a brilliant and underrated black comedy!

[ColinM]

Idealdiscountdude beat me too it. Definitely Shadow of the Vampire, and for the same reasons he gave.

[pineapple]

Ed Wood
American Movie

[SAI]

My favourite is Ed Wood.
But I have to add; has nobody seen Living in Oblivion? A very funny film.

[Scarface989]

Bowfinger. another one is the 1964 movie version of Mel Brooks The Producers. it was about a play, but is similar in a way about making a movie, (cept its a play, but just bear w/ me)

[QUENTIN]

1.) 8 1/2
2.) Day for Night
3.) The Bad and The Beautiful
4.) The Player
5.) Ed Wood
6.) American Movie
7.) Living in Oblivion
8.) Bowfinger

Can't think of any other GREAT films about movie-making.

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[dicaprio_travolta_man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by idealdiscountdude:
Shadow Of The Vampire

It's a brilliant and underrated black comedy!</font>

Shadow of the Vampire is a black comedy? I didn't know that. I thought all the actors in it were white? You are talking about the 2000 movie right? If you are I swear to god that William Dafoe and the rest of the cast is white. It has to be the 2000 movie because that's a film based on behind the scenes of an old vampire flick releaced in like the roaring 20's, and I don't think they had "black comedy" back then. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif I don't know I haven't seen the movie so I wouldn't have any idea what kind of comedy it is. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[jaymx]

I thought that Bowfinger and The Player were ver very good. But I was disappointed with State And Main and Shadow Of The Vampire.

My choice, if you can bypass the fact that it isn't totally about making a movie/movies, etc. is Get Shorty.

I love it, John Travolta is ultra-cool. The cast is just awesome, Gene, Rene, James Gandolfini, Delroy Lindo. But you've gotta love Danny Devito as Martin Weir.

[idealdiscountdude]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dicaprio_travolta_man:
Shadow of the Vampire is a black comedy? I didn't know that. I thought all the actors in it were white? You are talking about the 2000 movie right? If you are I swear to god that William Dafoe and the rest of the cast is white. It has to be the 2000 movie because that's a film based on behind the scenes of an old vampire flick releaced in like the roaring 20's, and I don't think they had "black comedy" back then. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif I don't know I haven't seen the movie so I wouldn't have any idea what kind of comedy it is. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif</font>

Ummm, dude.......a Black Comedy is a film in which the humor is drawn from murder, violence and suffering. They are "dark" and "twisted" films usually.

Films such as Shadow Of The Vampire and Serial Mom fit in this genre.



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[ColinM]

To a lesser extent, American Beauty and Nurse Betty are examples of black comedies too.

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[SIREN30]

QUENTIN, I can't believe that I made such an empty-headed comment before. Your list is a wonderful one and I've seen all of those. I must be losin' it in my old age. I'd probably mirror your choices exactly.

[Fergus]

I don't know, but does the "A Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese Through American Movies" documentary count as a movie about making a movie. I know it is a documentary, but.....

[Mr. Orange]

My favorite is with out a doubt Ed Wood. Runner up is Get Shorty. American Movie is a nice number three.

[dicaprio_travolta_man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by idealdiscountdude:
Ummm, dude.......a Black Comedy is a film in which the humor is drawn from murder, violence and suffering. They are "dark" and "twisted" films usually.

Films such as Shadow Of The Vampire and Serial Mom fit in this genre.

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Okay, Ideal there is no need to make me sound stupid http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif. I do a good enough job at that by myself http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif. Anyway, I think the reason why I didn't understand was because instead of calling a movie like that Black Comedy, I call it Dark Humor..

[idealdiscountdude]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dicaprio_travolta_man:
Okay, Ideal there is no need to make me sound stupid http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif. I do a good enough job at that by myself http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif. Anyway, I think the reason why I didn't understand was because instead of calling a movie like that Black Comedy, I call it Dark Humor..</font>


http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif I get ya man, I was just shocked that you didn't know what I meant!!!!

[Donnie_Darko]

Damn, forgot one, and it hasn't been mentioned yet...

Cecil B Demented

And Swimming with Sharks kicked ass, but it's not really a film about "making a movie". It's a film about "movie making". http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[meccajay]

I LOVED the Player!!

Ok, how about Deniro...

THE LAST TYCOON-- Deniro, Jack Nicholson, Dana Andrews, John Carradine, Tony Curtis, Anjelica Huston, Donald Pleasence, Ray Milland, Peter Strauss, Robert Mitchum, Theresa Russell...

There was another movie in which Deniro played a black listed director, but aside from his performance it wasnt that great.

[Kimmy]

i think urban legends and there're somany more that i can't think of.honestley i don't think that urban legends is the the best

[sloopyfan]

Fellini's 8 1/2 well at least the most clever one. I was working on a screenplay called How TO Be A Pop Icon, but it was similar to Fellini, so I have to rework.

[Raena]

Some others I can think of:


1. How about that movie with Drew Barrymore in her younger days. . .IRRECONCILABLE (sp?)DIFFERENCES with Shelly Long, Ryan O'Neil, and Sharon Stone? It wasn't about making a movie, but somewhere down the line movies were made.

2. I also liked this B-Movie called ENTROPY where Stephen Dorff is this video director guy (directs U2 videos) that gets a gig directing a flick. But again, that's more of a romance flick than anything else.

3. There's this E channel original movie called ROMANTIC COMEDY 101, came on last night in fact, where Tom Arnold and that kid from American Pie, I think, construct a cheesy romantic comedy. It's cheese, but cute cheese.

4. Then, of course, there's Blair Witch but I hate that chit.

5. Shakespeare In Love, another movie I could do without, is the behind the scenes of a play (a few of those flicks out there too).

6. Isn't Scream 3's focus around a movie? Maybe not, I forget.

[Cyclonus]

ED WOOD
LIVING IN OBLIVION
SINGING IN THE RAIN
THE PLAYER

[pennywise46]

Definately Fellini's 8 1/2. I really like Ed Wood too.

[Jasonite]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ColinM:
To a lesser extent, American Pie and Nurse Betty are examples of black comedies too.</font>

How is American Pie a black comedy?

J

[The Shadow]

'Cause in those movies you are (for the most part) laughing at the misfortunes of others. Like ColinM said, it's to a lesser extent. Dying and suffering are also misfortunes, although those are much more severe.

[ColinM]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jasonite:
How is American Pie a black comedy?</font>

Whoops! Meant American Beauty. Can't believe nobody else caught this! Thanks for pointing it out Jasonite. Fixing it......now.

Though I do suppose the Shadow has a point...

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