17 Reasons Not to Slit Your Wrists...by Michael Moore

[free]

Well, at least he's still has his sense of humor....and alive. ;)

Dear Friends,

Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. But before you go and cash it all in, let's, in the words of Monty Python, “always look on the bright side of life!” There IS some good news from Tuesday's election.

Here are 17 reasons not to slit your wrists:

1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president again.

2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

3. The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was young adults (Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that your parents are always wrong and you should never listen to them.

4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and don’t approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%). (Note to foreigners: Don't try to figure this one out. It's an American thing, like Pop Tarts.)

5. The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority in the Senate. If the Democrats do their job, Bush won't be able to pack the Supreme Court with right-wing ideologues. Did I say "if the Democrats do their job?" Um, maybe better to scratch this one.

6. Michigan voted for Kerry! So did the entire Northeast, the birthplace of our democracy. So did 6 of the 8 Great Lakes States. And the whole West Coast! Plus Hawaii. Ok, that's a start. We've got most of the fresh water, all of Broadway, and Mt. St. Helens. We can dehydrate them or bury them in lava. And no more show tunes!

7. Once again we are reminded that the buckeye is a nut, and not just any old nut -- a poisonous nut. A great nation was felled by a poisonous nut. May Ohio State pay dearly this Saturday when it faces Michigan.

8. 88% of Bush's support came from white voters. In 50 years, America will no longer have a white majority. Hey, 50 years isn't such a long time! If you're ten years old and reading this, your golden years will be truly golden and you will be well cared for in your old age.

9. Gays, thanks to the ballot measures passed on Tuesday, cannot get married in 11 new states. Thank God. Just think of all those wedding gifts we won't have to buy now.

10. Five more African Americans were elected as members of Congress, including the return of Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. It's always good to have more blacks in there fighting for us and doing the job our candidates can't.

11. The CEO of Coors was defeated for Senate in Colorado. Drink up!

12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away.

13. At the state legislative level, Democrats picked up a net of at least 3 chambers in Tuesday's elections. Of the 98 partisan-controlled state legislative chambers (house/assembly and senate), Democrats went into the 2004 elections in control of 44 chambers, Republicans controlled 53 chambers, and 1 chamber was tied. After Tuesday, Democrats now control 47 chambers, Republicans control 49 chambers, 1 chamber is tied and 1 chamber (Montana House) is still undecided.

14. Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater moment than the one he's having this week. It's all downhill for him from here on out -- and, more significantly, he's just not going to want to do all the hard work that will be expected of him. It'll be like everyone's last month in 12th grade -- you've already made it, so it's party time! Perhaps he'll treat the next four years like a permanent Friday, spending even more time at the ranch or in Kennebunkport. And why shouldn't he? He's already proved his point, avenged his father and kicked our ass.

15. Should Bush decide to show up to work and take this country down a very dark road, it is also just as likely that either of the following two scenarios will happen: a) Now that he doesn't ever need to pander to the Christian conservatives again to get elected, someone may whisper in his ear that he should spend these last four years building "a legacy" so that history will render a kinder verdict on him and thus he will not push for too aggressive a right-wing agenda; or b) He will become so cocky and arrogant -- and thus, reckless -- that he will commit a blunder of such major proportions that even his own party will have to remove him from office.

16. There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of them of voting age. We only lost by three and a half million! That's not a landslide -- it means we're almost there. Imagine losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards to go before you reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of those yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball and go home crying -- especially when you get to start the next down on the three yard line? Of course not! Buck up! Have hope! More sports analogies are coming!!!

17. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. If the media are looking for a trend it should be this -- that so many Americans were, for the first time since Kennedy, willing to vote for an out-and-out liberal. The country has always been filled with evangelicals -- that is not news. What IS news is that so many people have shifted toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact, that's BIG news. Which means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones who brought you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November 2, 2004. In fact, it's better that they don't. We'll need the element of surprise in 2008.

Feeling better? I hope so. As my friend Mort wrote me yesterday, "My Romanian grandfather used to say to me, 'Remember, Morton, this is such a wonderful country -- it doesn't even need a president!'"

But it needs us. Rest up, I'll write you again tomorrow.

Yours,

Michael Moore

Source (http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php)

[JohnTheHenchman]

Yeah, I've read it.

I used to like Michael Moore, but really, I can't stand him anymore.

He used to stand for something, and then he decided to buy into the Democratic party. When he got down on his knees with Bill Maher and begged Ralph Nader not to run, I laughed at how low he'd sunk. Turns out Nader was a non-factor.

Expect Moore to back the democrat nominee in 08 for no reason other than they're not a republican.

[free]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
Expect Moore to back the democrat nominee in 08 for no reason other than they're not a republican.

I don't think that he hates Republicans in general, he just REALLY hated Bush. If Al Gore would've (did) win in 2000, he probably would've supported Nader again in 2004.

He was very critical of some of Clinton's decisions as well, so I really think he doesn't support either party, he just wanted Bush out. Even in his little spill here, he bashed the Dems some.

Did I say "if the Democrats do their job?" Um, maybe better to scratch this one.

[jeo4]

Wow. Not one lie or distortion of facts in this list. I'm impressed.

Seriously, though...he makes a huge point. The man dubbed the most liberal in the Senate garnered more votes than any before him. That means 2008 is looking very promising for Democrats. And Bush is done campaigning now. He'll move on at the end of his term, like it or not.

[bob]

Good stuff. I especially like that he mentioned that douche Coors getting his ass handed to him.

[Tweek]

12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away.

i do.

[<3mekthx]

What IS news is that so many people have shifted toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact, that's BIG news. Which means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones who brought you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November 2, 2004


Mr. Moore has became an operative for the vast Democratic Spin Machine!

I couldn't have spun a John Kerry loss better myself! :rolleyes:


10. Five more African Americans were elected as members of Congress, including the return of Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. It's always good to have more blacks in there fighting for us and doing the job our candidates can't.

Anyone have a clue as to why George Bush NEVER gets ANY credit for appointing african americans into VERY HIGH positions in his cabinet.

[Thrizzle]

Originally posted by jeo4
That means 2008 is looking very promising for Democrats.

Well, the dems couldnt even beat Dubya....thats pretty pathetic. Not to mention losing ground across the country in everything.

[HannibalGuy]

Michael Moore is a big, fat piece of shit.

[Squid Vicious]

MICHAEL MOORE SAID IT SO IT'S NOT TRUE!!!

[free]

Originally posted by HannibalGuy
Michael Moore is a big, fat piece of shit.

Come on, your a better poster than that.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by HannibalGuy
Michael Moore is a big, fat piece of shit.

ROAST GEORGE BUSH ALIVE!!!

:D

Sorry, free's post gave me the idea to do it.

[Elgyn]

Originally posted by HannibalGuy
Michael Moore is a big, fat piece of shit.


Ahhh yes, of all the possible things conservatives could go after Moore about, what do they always go after? His weight. He`s a "fat" idiot.
Truth be told, I`ve known PLENTY of overweight conservatives.;)


And as free already said, Moore goes after Democrats pretty often too. He didn`t go very easy on Clinton.

[<3mekthx]

Ahhh yes, of all the possible things conservatives could go after Moore about, what do they always go after? His weight. He`s a "fat" idiot.


Ahhhh yes, of all the possible things liberals could go after Bush about, what do they always go after? His intellect. He's an "uneducated" idiot.


And as free already said, Moore goes after Democrats pretty often too.


Don't remember THAT part in his lil movie.

[Twisted Sister]

Originally posted by Thrizzle
Well, the dems couldnt even beat Dubya....thats pretty pathetic. Not to mention losing ground across the country in everything.

I agree, Thrizzle.

It's no secret that many of Kerry's votes (including my own) were not so much in favor of him per se, but instead were a defensive vote against Bush. That's why Nader's support was down (voters were forced to shit or get off the pot), so to credit America with a record voter turnout supporting a Massachusettes liberal is misleading, in my opinion (#17 on Moore's list).

Regardless of my disappointment in the election's results, the silver lining is that, as citizens, we made decisions and voted our consciences in record numbers. We witnessed Democracy in action, as the Founding Fathers intended, and that is never a bad thing.

[Twisted Sister]

Originally posted by HannibalGuy
Michael Moore is a big, fat piece of shit.

True dat, but he gets people talking, and that counts for something, doesn't it?

[Twisted Sister]

Originally posted by <3mekthx
Ahhhh yes, of all the possible things liberals could go after Bush about, what do they always go after? His intellect. He's an "uneducated" idiot.


Don't remember THAT part in his lil movie.

<3mekthx,

You can be an overweight president and still do a great job. Not so if you can barely speak coherent English.

[Elgyn]

Originally posted by <3mekthx
Ahhhh yes, of all the possible things liberals could go after Bush about, what do they always go after? His intellect. He's an "uneducated" idiot.



I didn`t even mention Bush in my post. You`re putting words in my mouth.




Don't remember THAT part in his lil movie.

Try watching his OTHER movies. He didn`t make Clinton look very good in "Bowling For Columbine".
For the record, I`ve seen all of Moore`s films, and IMO "Fahrenhiet 9/11" is his weakest film. And this is coming from someone who ALREADY ddin`t like Bush.;)

[<3mekthx]

I was being fecescious :p

I've seen the movie. What a nice, truthful editing job he did with Charlton Heston. :(

[Twisted Sister]

Originally posted by <3mekthx
I was being fecescious :p

Huh? Do you mean facetious? Not to be a smartass, but I don't know what "fecescious" means. I would assume that word has something to do with feces but am not sure. :confused:

[darchangel]

Originally posted by Twisted Sister
Huh? Do you mean facetious? Not to be a smartass, but I don't know what "fecescious" means. I would assume that word has something to do with feces but am not sure. :confused:


i think s/he meant 'vececious' (i think that's how it's spelled), which i think is a synonym for purposefully volatile (i'm not being a jackass, that's what 'vececious' means)



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[countchocula]

I think he meant "phacecious," as in "sarcastic."

[Elgyn]

Originally posted by <3mekthx


I've seen the movie. What a nice, truthful editing job he did with Charlton Heston. :(

Well, that`s the problem with Moore`s films. It`s hard to tell how much of it is 'real'. He`s been accused of staging things in his movies. For example, the bit in "Columbine" where he goes door-to-door in Canada to see if their doors are locked - that could easily have been staged.
But I still really love that movie (and, to lesser degrees, "Roger & Me" and "The Big One").
To be honest, I liked Moore a lot better when he was going after Big Business and sticking-up for the American working-class.
Now, he`s 'Mr. I Hate Bush', and it grows tiresome after a while.
I think he needs to rebound and make his next movie more like his old ones, and not have it be all about the Bush Administration.

NOW......it seems you`re insinuating that Moore cut-out a lot of stuff from his interview with Heston. If that`s the case, I`d love to hear what you know about that. He did certainly make Heston out to be the Big Bad Guy in the movie.

[Jerk Shapiro]

'Cause ya' know I was gonna kill myself, but you saved me Michael Moore. Thank you.

[<3mekthx]

...and the winner goes to..*drumroll* TWISTED SISTER!!!!!! I swear to you I spent like 20 minutes yesterday trying to find the correct spelling for that word. I googled like 20 different combinations of what I 'thought' close spelling to the word would be, and about each misspelling came up with probably 30 links to where people had trouble spelling the word. Finally got fed up and used the one I thought sounded the closest, but figured it still wasn't right. I'm glad to see I wasn't the only that didn't know. :D


You can read for yourself about Charlton Heston and the editing/cutting/splicing etc.
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/hestonrally1.htm

Here is the link about the "canada" section of the movie
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/canada.htm

I haven't looked the site over THAT much, but I think I will when I have alittle time.

http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/index2.htm
Has a few things on there that might interest me.

I've enjoyed watching a few of his "documentaries", but I let nothing in the movie shape the way I feel about the issues in the movie.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by <3mekthx
You can read for yourself about Charlton Heston and the editing/cutting/splicing etc.
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/hestonrally1.htm

Here is the link about the "canada" section of the movie
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/canada.htm

I haven't looked the site over THAT much, but I think I will when I have alittle time.

http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/index2.htm
Has a few things on there that might interest me.

I've enjoyed watching a few of his "documentaries", but I let nothing in the movie shape the way I feel about the issues in the movie.

I have two problems with those site:

1. Bowling For Truth:Michael Moore is a liar!

Me:Yeah, and I'm sure you're totally non-partisan, truth-telling pros. :rolleyes:

2. Michael Moore has a 30 000$ (more or less) reward for anybody who can find snything that's a lie in his film. As of this date, nobody's picked it up yet.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by Jerk Shapiro
'Cause ya' know I was gonna kill myself, but you saved me Michael Moore. Thank you.

He wasn't joking. (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85068)

[<3mekthx]

Yes, I think they should choose there words more carefully. I'm sure they're partisan. (aren't most people nowadays) I think that his editing is just very questionable. The cutting, splicing, demonizing of Heston is HARSH. (IMO) I don't think his edits are very truthful, but I can't say he "lies". I guess everyone can decide for themselves.

[RicochetShaw]

Originally posted by MacReady

2. Michael Moore has a 30 000$ (more or less) reward for anybody who can find snything that's a lie in his film. As of this date, nobody's picked it up yet.


Ugh, I can't believe people still use this excuse to proclaim that everything Moore says is absolutely valid. How do you know no one has claimed it? I'm sure thousands of people have written letters to him pointing out errors, but OF COURSE he's not going to give that reward. And if I found a mistake, what do I do? The best of my knowledge, he didn't even provide a mailing address or anything when he claimed he'd be giving out that ward. So how valid is that offer, really?

The answer is, it ISN'T, and to keep using it as a reference of his veracity is ABSOLUTELY inane.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by RicochetShaw
Ugh, I can't believe people still use this excuse to proclaim that everything Moore says is absolutely valid. How do you know no one has claimed it? I'm sure thousands of people have written letters to him pointing out errors, but OF COURSE he's not going to give that reward. And if I found a mistake, what do I do? The best of my knowledge, he didn't even provide a mailing address or anything when he claimed he'd be giving out that ward. So how valid is that offer, really?

The answer is, it ISN'T, and to keep using it as a reference of his veracity is ABSOLUTELY inane.

Do you have a newslink that gives us all the info about it? Could you point out what gives you your idea?

I keep getting the feeling you're being condescending to me. If you are, STOP IT.

[RicochetShaw]

Originally posted by free


14. Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater moment than the one he's having this week. It's all downhill for him from here on out -- and, more significantly, he's just not going to want to do all the hard work that will be expected of him. It'll be like everyone's last month in 12th grade -- you've already made it, so it's party time!




Reading the title of this list, and knowing it came from Moore, I expected some intelligent points to give hope to Democrats, but this list is just sad, especially this point. How is Bush going to be a lame duck president? He gained a wider majority in the House AND the Senate, making it much easier for him to pass his bills. I mean really, what is this guy talking about?

Also, he's really stretching it by saying we should find joy in Bush's election being such a marvelous win for him, that it will be hard for him to achieve something else as marvelous. I mean really, that's pretty weak.

[RicochetShaw]

Originally posted by MacReady

I keep getting the feeling you're being condescending to me.

Well, I can't control your feelings, so there's nothing I can really do here, cause I don't intend to condescend...

[MacReady]

Originally posted by RicochetShaw
Well, I can't control your feelings, so there's nothing I can really do here, cause I don't intend to condescend...

Hmmm, it's just that I get that feeling from you on more than one occasion. A couple I was out of line but now I feel your response was too harsh.

Does anybody know where I can find that "Michael Moore offer reward" news link?

[darchangel]

it was on his website:

Michael Moore Website (http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=74)


he apparently said it in a Time magazine interview...i couldn't find any links that said anyone had taken him up on it.


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[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by <3mekthx
...and the winner goes to..*drumroll* TWISTED SISTER!!!!!! I swear to you I spent like 20 minutes yesterday trying to find the correct spelling for that word. I googled like 20 different combinations of what I 'thought' close spelling to the word would be, and about each misspelling came up with probably 30 links to where people had trouble spelling the word. Finally got fed up and used the one I thought sounded the closest, but figured it still wasn't right. I'm glad to see I wasn't the only that didn't know. :D


Michael Moore used footage that was close enough to create a context conveying Heston as a gun fanatic latching on to the Constitution.

Just like Michael Moore, you didn't have the exact details, but it didn't stop you from trying to make a point, nor did it make your point any less valid.

What I'm saying here, if you can post something you know isn't correct, but know it will still get your point across, I can't see why you'd say it's not okay for Moore to do that.

[Lynn7]

Michael Moore says that Bush won by a slim margin but consider this- he got reelected after months and months of beating by the Democratic primary candidates, Michael Moore's overhyped movie, the constant bashing by celebs in the media, the negative reporting by almost all media, the free ride the media gave Kerry, and the fact that CBS tried to push a forged story weeks before the election and then released some really old news just days before the election. It is amazing that Bush won by a slim margin becasue if the media had been fair he should've won by a landslide.

[notchreturns]

To be fair, Kerry had just as much layed on him as Bush did. The Swiftboat ads, his part in the anti-war movement, his flip-flipflopping, his poor Senate record... erm, his wife.

It wouldn't be politics if each party didn't dig down and get personal.

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by Lynn7
Michael Moore says that Bush won by a slim margin but consider this- he got reelected after months and months of beating by the Democratic primary candidates, Michael Moore's overhyped movie, the constant bashing by celebs in the media, the negative reporting by almost all media, the free ride the media gave Kerry, and the fact that CBS tried to push a forged story weeks before the election and then released some really old news just days before the election. It is amazing that Bush won by a slim margin becasue if the media had been fair he should've won by a landslide.


I actually think that a majority of Bush's supporters are either out of touch with the media, are skeptical of the media, or have values that are contrary to mainstream media.

And let's get real - how many Bush supporters humor the Democratic candidates, have seen F:9/11, or give a rats ass about Sean Penn?

It would be like me saying that Kerry should have lost by more votes because of the swift boat ads, his stand on gays, and the constant reporting of him being seen with Jane Fonda.

[<3mekthx]

If I'm not mistaken, you are comparing my misspelling of a word on a private forum to Michael Moore using tricky(tacky) editing, swaying public opinion of Heston b/c he doesn't agree with his views, all the while taking millions to the bank. I think there is no comparison, but I'm sure you can twist it all together. I would say you are Nitpicking sir.

I'm not trying to sway ANYONE's opinion on Moore. Sorry if it seems that way. I'm just trying to say not to take his movies at face value.

[Elgyn]

Originally posted by <3mekthx


You can read for yourself about Charlton Heston and the editing/cutting/splicing etc.
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/hestonrally1.htm




I read the linked article (haven`t gotten around to reading the others yet though).
I suppose they [the people at the website] have some points, and I won`t argue that Moore doesn`t use 'editing trickery'.
But I thought you meant there was evidence that the actual interview between Heston and Moore had been tampered-with.
And, to me, that interview pretty much speaks for itself.

This article makes a big deal about Moore supposedly trying to make Heston look racist. The article claims that Heston marched alongside Martin Luthor King Jr. during the Civil Rights movement. If that`s true, than good for Mr. Heston.
BUT.....in the actual interview between Heston and Moore, Moore asks Heston why he thinks America has more violent crime than other free-world countries. Heston`s answer? [And this is straight from his mouth]
"Mixed ethnicity".
And just what, exactly, do you think he meant by that?:mad:

[free]

Originally posted by Elgyn

"Mixed ethnicity".
And just what, exactly, do you think he meant by that?:mad:

Honestly, when I've seen Heston speak, he has never come off as racist before.

If I had to guess, I think he meant fighting between races, not the marriage of 2 different races. You have to remember, he isn't exactly all there anymore.

[jeo4]

Originally posted by Elgyn
I read the linked article (haven`t gotten around to reading the others yet though).
I suppose they [the people at the website] have some points, and I won`t argue that Moore doesn`t use 'editing trickery'.
But I thought you meant there was evidence that the actual interview between Heston and Moore had been tampered-with.
And, to me, that interview pretty much speaks for itself.

This article makes a big deal about Moore supposedly trying to make Heston look racist. The article claims that Heston marched alongside Martin Luthor King Jr. during the Civil Rights movement. If that`s true, than good for Mr. Heston.
BUT.....in the actual interview between Heston and Moore, Moore asks Heston why he thinks America has more violent crime than other free-world countries. Heston`s answer? [And this is straight from his mouth]
"Mixed ethnicity".
And just what, exactly, do you think he meant by that?:mad:

Mixed ethnicity has less to do with race and more with beliefs, customs and traditions. France, Italy and England all have different customs than America, but the vast majority of them share identical genes and family history with select Americans. Still, they are ethnically different. America has a wide and varied ethnic background, to be sure. So Heston wasn't making a negative reference, IMO.

[Elgyn]

Originally posted by jeo4
Mixed ethnicity has less to do with race and more with beliefs, customs and traditions. France, Italy and England all have different customs than America, but the vast majority of them share identical genes and family history with select Americans. Still, they are ethnically different. America has a wide and varied ethnic background, to be sure. So Heston wasn't making a negative reference, IMO.


Okay. I see what you`re saying.

But STILL......these other countries all have about as much "mixed ethnicity" as America.
When I saw that interview, and Heston said the words "mixed ethnicity", I couldn`t help but think he sounded a bit racist.

But, then again, maybe I`m a complete nimrod.:)

[<3mekthx]

I don't think Heston is "racist" IMO. I'm not sure Mr. Heston knew what Mr. Moore had in store for him. He completely caught Heston off guard with really tough questions and maybe baited Heston a bit. Guys like Heston (older, mild case of alzheimers) aren't really the sharpest when confronted like that. (again, IMO)

I think throwing around the "racist" card aroud is a far too common thing today. It's getting a bit tiring. Hardly anyone talks about race. Black and White. Why? They are terrified that they will be considered "racist". "He's white, and he said something about the black culture. RACIST!!" Obviously, I'm not talking about the moore/heston thing anymore, but AMERICA in general. Racist Racist Racist. Tiring.

In no way am I pointing this at Elgyn. This is not directed towards you.

[The Postmaster General]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by <3mekthx
If I'm not mistaken, you are comparing my misspelling of a word on a private forum to Michael Moore using tricky(tacky) editing, swaying public opinion of Heston b/c he doesn't agree with his views, all the while taking millions to the bank. I think there is no comparison, but I'm sure you can twist it all together.


True. There is no comparison. Michael Moore publicly dennounces famous people, you do it annonymously on a message board.

The point (no comparison) is that everyone is "guilty" of using techniques to validate their own point. Whether it be editing, or trying to select the word that is just right - most people who share opinions do it, and I think it's a great thing.

Did you notice that no one paid attention to your point when you misspelled that word? There were a quarter-dozen posts, not one addressing your point. Well, to me, that pretty darned well coincides with people dismissing Michael Moore's points because of details. You see hunderds of anti-Moore threads, not one actually addressing whether or not his over-all point was right, but more focused on details that they find to be wrong. Like, who cares if Michael Moore thinks American's are obsessed with violence? He showed clip A before Clip B, and really Clip B happened first! Who cares if Michael Moore thinks the war is unjust? He left a lens cap on in scene 42 of the movie! Who cares what <3's point was? He misspelled that word.

Did you happen to notice that no one who agreed with you challenged the spelling? Do you notice that no one who agrees with Moore challenges his techniques.

I'm not quite sure why you thought my post was pro-Moore. It was meant to be pro-freedom of expression, and anti-devaluation-based-on-details.


I would say you are Nitpicking sir

Wait, let me get this straight..... The quarter-dozen people who corrected your spelling weren't nitpicking, but I come in and take your entire post in context, and analogize it to your own opinion on Moore, thereby showing an understanding of your point, while at the same time adding my slant on the topic, and you feel I'm nitpicking..... M'kay.....

Come on, man. This wasn't meant as some sort of knock on your misspelling. I find it a nobel act anytime someone risks being right for the sake of saying what's on their mind. (read around....)



I'm just trying to say not to take his movies at face value.


Exactly. No black and white - shades of grey. We've fallen through the looking glass. White Castle fries only come in one size. My baby may have too much booty but it's all booty-licious ----- All that jive. Nothing should be taken at face value. That would include any supposed debunking of Michael Moore's opinions.

[<3mekthx]

You got all of that from TWO SENTENCES of mine!!!! I'm speechless.

You sir, are the man! :D

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by <3mekthx
You got all of that from TWO SENTENCES of mine!!!! I'm speechless.

You sir, are the man! :D


Give yourself the credit. You made it very apparent that I had a lot of explaining to do.

[darchangel]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
Give yourself the credit. You made it very apparent that I had a lot of explaining to do.


<breasty hugs Bubba repeatedly>



:D



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