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edonline
11-09-2004, 01:47 PM
http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/story/0,1259,---23514,00.html
Golden Globes Considers 'Passion' Foreign
November 9, 2004
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - The Golden Globes have thrown Mel Gibson a curve ball and denied Michael Moore.
Moore's film "Fahrenheit 9/11" doesn't qualify for any of the top Globes film award categories since it's a documentary, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The Hollywood Foreign Press Assn., which administers the Globes, does not have a separate documentary category.
Gibson had intended that "The Passion of the Christ" be considered in the best drama category, but must instead enter the foreign-language contest since under the rules of the HFPA, any film with a non-English dialogue track is considered a foreign feature. Most of the dialogue in "Passion" is Aramaic.
"Fahrenheit" has broken numerous box office records and has earned $119.1 in North America. "Passion" grossed $370.3 million in domestic ticket sales.
Golden Globe nominations will be announced Monday, Dec. 13, while the winners will be telecast on NBC in January.
Watur2Phunk
11-09-2004, 06:08 PM
Passion prolly wont be nominaed for anything, Hollywood is made up of mostly Jews.. Not being offensive here, but I'm jewish andsp os y friend's grandmother who is in the "acdemy" and she didn't even see the passion because she heard it was antisemetic. Golden Globes are just trying to be classy about it.
Sigur509
11-09-2004, 06:17 PM
Great and Good.
Donnie_Darko
11-09-2004, 06:52 PM
Jewish, Schmewish... Passion shouldn't NOT win cause it's "anti-semetic" (which it's not), rather, Passion should NOT win, cause it's a horrible, trite, self indulgent piece of "filmmaking". Yes, utter shit has won in the past coughLOTRcough, but at least some of those weren't THIS bad.
And as per the topic, yes, according to the rules, it should be in foreign language... cause it is. And another reason I think they did this, was so it can win, and not take anything away from Jewish Hollywood... don't wanna be getting them angry. Passion proved what happens the last time the Jews got angry. ;)
drudo182
11-09-2004, 10:34 PM
booo. i thought the film was fantastic.
-drew-
Despite my personal opinions about the film, I think the film should be considered for both. The same with F 9/11. As long as the film is a certain length, I don't see the problems with it being tried for both categories.
If they don't want a film to win multiple awards, then why not let the film maker choose what category to be in. POTC would have a better chance in the foreign category, IMO.
MacReady
11-10-2004, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Donnie_Darko
Jewish, Schmewish... Passion shouldn't NOT win cause it's "anti-semetic" (which it's not), rather, Passion should NOT win, cause it's a horrible, trite, self indulgent piece of "filmmaking". Yes, utter shit has won in the past coughLOTRcough, but at least some of those weren't THIS bad.
Truer words have never been spoken.
bigred760
11-10-2004, 07:41 PM
That's what I don't like about the Golden Globes - at least the Academy Awards will nominate a foreign film for Best Picture. But the Globes only recognize American made (and apparently English-speaking) movies for the Best Picture categories. They suck.
Batman_DKR
11-10-2004, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by edonline
http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/story/0,1259,---23514,00.html
Golden Globes Considers 'Passion' Foreign
November 9, 2004
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - The Golden Globes have thrown Mel Gibson a curve ball and denied Michael Moore.
Moore's film "Fahrenheit 9/11" doesn't qualify for any of the top Globes film award categories since it's a documentary, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The Hollywood Foreign Press Assn., which administers the Globes, does not have a separate documentary category.
Gibson had intended that "The Passion of the Christ" be considered in the best drama category, but must instead enter the foreign-language contest since under the rules of the HFPA, any film with a non-English dialogue track is considered a foreign feature. Most of the dialogue in "Passion" is Aramaic.
"Fahrenheit" has broken numerous box office records and has earned $119.1 in North America. "Passion" grossed $370.3 million in domestic ticket sales.
Golden Globe nominations will be announced Monday, Dec. 13, while the winners will be telecast on NBC in January.
This is idiotic, I do not neccesarily believe either should be nominated for Best Picture, but they should at least be eligiable for consideration. Thank god for the fucking Academy, and believe me I do not say that much!
Moviefan02000
11-10-2004, 08:18 PM
I love both movies, but I do not think either should be nominated for best picture. Best Foreign Film and Best Documentary, yes, not best picture.
criddic2
11-13-2004, 06:32 AM
1. Well, "Fahrenheit" would have had a better shot here, if Bush hadn't won. I bet they would have given Moore a special acheivement award. After all, the jury (led by Tarantino) at Cannes awarded him the big prize in February to boost it's visibility during the election year.
I saw the movie. Didn't like it. It broke records for a doc. because it was released to thousands more theaters than most of them ever are.
As for the Oscars, Mr. Moore shot himself in the foot a couple of months ago by withdrawing his elegibity for the Documentary Category, hoping to get the Best Picture nod. He was counting on a Kerry win, so he could march around taking credit for it.
I think one of the best things to come out of Bush's re-election (yes, re-election, since the Electoral College always determines the winner) is that Michael Moore can't claim his movie changed the outcome. Unless it motivated more conservatives to come out and vote.
By the way someone on another thread mentioned popular vote margins. I wonder if you can really consider a 50.8% margin in 1980 to NOT be a magority?
2. The Passion of the Christ was a massive undertaking for Mel Gibson, who used his own money and effort to make a film he felt compelled to bring to the screen. If he gets nominated at either awards ceremony, it'll be largely due to his unexpected success with this gamble. A religious film, about the death of Christ, filmed in Aramaic and Latin with subtitles at 2 1/2 hours long made the most of any film all year (though The Incredibles could overtake that). Critics were divided on it. Some called it anti-semetic. Others praised it highly. It would be a controversial choice but not necessarily unwarranted.
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