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Tweek
11-19-2004, 06:51 PM
It's still going on!

There will be TWO recounts, because there is currently a 261 vote margin between Christine Gregoire (D) and Dino Rossi (R).


I voted for Gregoire, because for one, Rossi creeps me out, but I also think she would do well. She was State Attorney General for 12 or so years. (That job is now Rob McKenna's.)

Anyway, TWO recounts...
3m+ votes.


Ah, at least one of the recounts is computerized.

Lynn7
11-20-2004, 07:18 PM
I heard about this. I always wonder which recount is right.Sometimes I count things over numerous times and always get a different result. Hope the best person wins!

free
12-18-2004, 05:27 AM
I heard in a Democratic county, they found around 500 absentee votes. In a race that close if the votes go 60/40, it could change the election.

free
12-22-2004, 05:36 PM
An update on the 700 ballots they found. Looks like a big boost for the Democratic party.

Wash. Court: New Ballots Can Be Counted

By REBECCA COOK, Associated Press Writer

OLYMPIA, Wash. - Washington state's Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that more than 700 belatedly discovered ballots from Seattle's King County should be counted in the extraordinarily close governor's race — potentially enough to tip the balance in favor of Democrat Christine Gregoire.

King County is a Democratic stronghold, the biggest county in the state and the last to report results from the statewide hand recount that began Dec. 8.

Full Story. (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20041222/ap_on_re_us/governor_recount)

Lynn7
12-30-2004, 06:50 PM
I saw the Repub candidate on TV tonight and he is pretty mad. He said that he won the election and the recount and then the Dem wanted a hand count and then she won after some rules were unevenly applied. Also he said in one area there were thousands of people who claimed there address as city hall or something like that. He is planning to challenge the results but as of today the dem has been declared the winnere by only 129 votes the closest election for gov ever. He wants a revote. I think there should be a revote since it was so close and there were so many irregularities.

free
12-31-2004, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Lynn7
I think there should be a revote since it was so close and there were so many irregularities.

I love irony.

Did you feel the same way about Florida in 2000? How about in Ohio in 2004, where several machines have erroneously given Bush sometimes thousands of extra votes?

Lynn7
01-01-2005, 10:40 AM
I would say the same if the candidate winning had been a Republican becasue the vote came out one way twice and then on the final tally which wa a handcount there were only 129 votes separating and there were some things unequally applied in one county which gave the deciding outcome. When the election is this messed up it is better to start over and agree going in that whatever the outcome will be final- no more recounts.
Not to get into the Florida thing so much again but since you mentioned it Bush won and then Gore wated to recount only selected Democratic counties-not fair by any standards.And then the media went down there and watched carefully as each county was recounted (after the results had already been confirmed) and all the media outlets confirmed that Bush did win. I think the Wahington thing is under a cloud right now.

free
01-01-2005, 11:56 AM
Missed you, BTW ;)

I wasn't talking about a recount, I meant the state of Florida completely revoting the enitre election.

The reason Gore wanted certain Democratic counties re-counted was because they had an unusuallly high number of votes for Pat Buchanan. From what I hear, the voter ballots in Florida can be extremely hard to decipher for an elderly person. IMO, they should have contacted each person who voted for Buchanan to confirm that they did, in fact, intend to vote for him.

A number of outlets held recounts, and there were several who also said that Gore won, but that either here nor there, because the main issue for me was whether they intended to vote for who they actually did.

Lynn7
01-03-2005, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by free
Missed you, BTW ;)

I wasn't talking about a recount, I meant the state of Florida completely revoting the enitre election.

The reason Gore wanted certain Democratic counties re-counted was because they had an unusuallly high number of votes for Pat Buchanan. From what I hear, the voter ballots in Florida can be extremely hard to decipher for an elderly person. IMO, they should have contacted each person who voted for Buchanan to confirm that they did, in fact, intend to vote for him.

A number of outlets held recounts, and there were several who also said that Gore won, but that either here nor there, because the main issue for me was whether they intended to vote for who they actually did.

Thanks, Free! I was so busy for Christmas my time has been so limited.

You know, I would not have had a problem with a revote in Florida since the vote was so close. I know their were some weird things like that damn butterfly ballot but there was also the problem with announcing the results of the election when the western part of Florida was still voting which probaby depressed many of the Repub votes. In an election that close.... The problem is that if there had been a revote it would've been dangerous since the whole country's results would've been riding on that state's revote and it might have caused a lot of hatred and divisiveness that might have been bad for the country as a whole.
The whole Florida thing brought to light the fact that our voting system isn't as righteous as we have been led to believe. There is a lot of ineptness and even some corrution that becomes apparent as the races get so close. I'm suprised both sides of the aisle aren't cracking down on all of this stuff between elections when tempres are coller. Maybe they all like the status quo? I don't. I'd like to see unified voting systems and methods and I'd also like it if eveeryone had to show an ID.