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UBER_MAX
12-05-2004, 07:51 AM
Check out the link below for a complete list of spider-man villains. Which one or ones would you choose to be in the next movie?? I won't choose Venom because I don't think you could top that and the fourth movie would be a disappointment, so I'll go with the lizard.

http://www.samruby.com/villtoc.htm

SAI
12-05-2004, 08:35 AM
I never thought that much of Venom. From a logical standpoint I think the best villains for Spidey 3 would be eiether Lizard and/or Green Goblin 2. Villains I'd like to see utilised? Mysterio, Electro or the Sinister 6 (reinvented, pehaps Harry could hire them and lead them as Goblin 2)

bourahioro
12-05-2004, 08:04 PM
I think Rhino....and you could have a subplot with Black cat and introduce Sandman......that would rule

Thrizzle
12-05-2004, 08:34 PM
It will probably be Green Goblin 2.....if thats the case then i hope he takes on a partner. Shocker, Rhino, Vulture, all would be good partners.

moose1132
12-06-2004, 05:26 PM
If this is the last Spidey film, I want to see both Lizard AND Venom. It would have to be a long 3+ hour movie though. They could set it up in the beginning with JJ Jameson's son returning from the moon (he would go after MJ left him). Spider-man gets the symbiote suit and the Lizard runs loose. Spidey almost kills the Lizard (who he knows is Doc Connors) so he gets rid of the suit. Eddie Brook gets it and turns into Venom. Almost like 2 movies with the 2 storylines and all.

bourahioro
12-08-2004, 04:03 PM
Almost like 2 movies with the 2 storylines and all. [/B][/QUOTE]


Maybe they could make 2 movies then.

Dr.Omega
12-08-2004, 05:59 PM
sam raimi doesnt want to do venom, he's stated before that he wants to focus more on classic villains. But the fans are in such high demand for venom he might just change his mind. I hope he doesnt, throwing in venom like that without building up eddie and peters rivalry would just be like Them throwing Bane in Batman and Robin.

Jimmy"The Gent"
12-09-2004, 12:13 AM
Well, from the ending of Spider-Man 2, we can pretty much conclude that Green Goblin II (Harry) will play some part in the next installment, whether it be as a hero or villain...or both is yet to be seen.

So here's my "far-fetched" story line:
Once the high ranking crime families in the city see what the Osborn Enhancement formula can do they naturally want some for themselves. One of the major bosses, say Hammerhead, steals the serum while Harry as Green Goblin II is out fighting Spider-Man all over NYC. Hammerhead then tests the serum on one of his trusted henchmen, thus creating The Hobogoblin. This will give Spidey and Harry a common enemy to team up on and stop fighting each other. Harry will most likely die in the ensuing battle because of his inexperience (but will forgive Spider-Man in his last dying gasps), and Peter will avenge his friend by issuing a savage beating on all baddies.

That's just my little brain storm. I always liked Hammerhead because of his mafia ties and the Hobogoblin was just downright evil in the comics.

UBER_MAX
12-09-2004, 06:52 AM
I think in the comic books Harry overdosed on Goblin serum, so they may go there, or not. Harry may not even get to don the suit in the movies, at least that's what Sam Raimi keeps saying, but I highly doubt it. Also, in the comics, Harry is Green Goblin II, but in the cartoons he's the Hobgoblin, so who knows what they'll go with. If they do more then three movies, I think they may save Harry as the Green/Hobgoblin for the sixth film and have him lead the sinister six. I read on another website they're actually planning NINE films, so my guess would be that the Symbiote saga would be saved for the 7th, 8th and 9th films. It would need three films, it's a pretty long story arc.

Dr.Omega
12-09-2004, 05:41 PM
yea harry was a heavy drug abuser in the comics. He died due to negative effects of the drugs mixing in with the serum, unlike his father where the serum could revive him like wolverine (yes, norman is still alive in the comics). Harry died saving peter though.
, they could focus on that in the 3rd along with whole the Maggia gang war story with the kingpin vs. silvermane.

SAI
12-12-2004, 03:51 AM
Dr. Omega; They can't use Kingpin. Fox own the rights to that character, having used him for Daredevil.

Dr.Omega
12-12-2004, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by SAI
Dr. Omega; They can't use Kingpin. Fox own the rights to that character, having used him for Daredevil.

well who owns the actuall rights to the kingpin? yeah thats right marvel.... and im pretty sure they'd go out of their way for their biggest cash cow. Its not like their going to make a daredevil sequel anyway. oh yeah and venom's copyrighted to another studio as well .

The Young Son
12-14-2004, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by Jimmy"The Gent"
Well, from the ending of [B]Spider-Man 2, we can pretty much conclude that Green Goblin II (Harry) will play some part in the next installment...

Not so. Sam Raimi has already stated that throughout the course of the next film, he wants to have Harry struggling with his emotions. Will he become the Green Goblin and avenge his father? Or is his friendship with Peter too strong to force such a move? I for one like the idea of Harry having this type of inner conflict.

James Logan
01-06-2005, 09:55 AM
I pick Venom.

I like the Lizard, but I don't want to see him in a third movie, because the Lizard is just another case of "nice scientist turned nuts because obsessed with his work". We had that with the Green Goblin, we had that with Octopus, enough already.

I don't like the idea of a Green Goblin II, either. It kinda worked in the comic books, because it's like a whole family thing. But I don't want to see another movie with the "same" (not really, but you get my point) villain in it, even though I'm sure there's a way for it to be pulled off nicely (changing the costume, for starters).

I pick Venom, because he's become a classic villain, because he's a perfect cinematic villain, and because he's the perfect villain for Raimi to bring us his darker, more horror-like tricks. Other than that? He's also the perfect villain to usher Spider-man in the "adult" age. He's been learning, ok. But now he's got his girl, they're probably on their way to get married, he's growing up. Give him a nastier villain. Give him a violent villain. Give him an adult villain. Give him Venom.

UBER_MAX
01-06-2005, 10:41 PM
When I learned that Sam Raimi wanted to tell the Goblin Legacy with his trilogy, I always thought (this was before S-M 2 came out) that since he'd used GG in S-M 1 that he'd use the HobGoblin in S-M 2 and use GG2 for S-M 3. I don't think we'll see the HobGoblin now, unless he calls Harry the HobGoblin instead of GG2 like they did in the cartoons. I just thought he would use all the "goblins" that made a real impact on spidey and leave the other classic villains for other films. But then again, I don't think people could've handled three goblins in three films, unless they were spidey die hards.

Moloch
01-12-2005, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Jimmy"The Gent"
Well, from the ending of Spider-Man 2, we can pretty much conclude that Green Goblin II (Harry) will play some part in the next installment, whether it be as a hero or villain...or both is yet to be seen.

So here's my "far-fetched" story line:
Once the high ranking crime families in the city see what the Osborn Enhancement formula can do they naturally want some for themselves. One of the major bosses, say Hammerhead, steals the serum while Harry as Green Goblin II is out fighting Spider-Man all over NYC. Hammerhead then tests the serum on one of his trusted henchmen, thus creating The Hobogoblin. This will give Spidey and Harry a common enemy to team up on and stop fighting each other. Harry will most likely die in the ensuing battle because of his inexperience (but will forgive Spider-Man in his last dying gasps), and Peter will avenge his friend by issuing a savage beating on all baddies.

That's just my little brain storm. I always liked Hammerhead because of his mafia ties and the Hobogoblin was just downright evil in the comics.
This would be a very good story line. I would love to see that movie

UBER_MAX
01-18-2005, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by James Logan
I pick Venom.
I pick Venom, because he's become a classic villain

What makes a villain "classic"... I always thought classic meant old school, but do you mean an arch-nemesis type of villain?? To me, spidey's only arch-nemesiseseses :p are the GG, Dock Ock and Venom. The Hob-goblin, the Scorpion and Carnage are solid villains, but really, they're GG, Dock Ock and Venom knock-offs.

LordSimen
01-31-2005, 12:19 AM
The Lizard and Kraven are my pick.

Tweek
02-05-2005, 09:08 PM
well who owns the actuall rights to the kingpin? yeah thats right marvel.... and im pretty sure they'd go out of their way for their biggest cash cow. Its not like their going to make a daredevil sequel anyway. oh yeah and venom's copyrighted to another studio as well .

Fox owns the film rights to Kingpin.
So unless they buy them back and give the rights to Sony, Kingpin won't be in a Spidey movie.

Marcelo
03-04-2005, 05:37 PM
My belief for the Spidr-man 3 villians are going to be Harry as the Green Goblin for sure and I think he is going to team up with the Hobgoblin who will be Jameson's son who was ditched at the alter by Mary Jane. Since he is angry and Harry knows Pete's identity surley Mary Jane is going to go through a very wild ride. Your thoughts guys?

The Young Son
03-16-2005, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by Marcelo
My belief for the Spidr-man 3 villians are going to be Harry as the Green Goblin for sure and I think he is going to team up with the Hobgoblin who will be Jameson's son who was ditched at the alter by Mary Jane. Since he is angry and Harry knows Pete's identity surley Mary Jane is going to go through a very wild ride. Your thoughts guys?

I don't think so. Having the GG2 and the Hob Goblin is too soon to have goblins in the films again. I personally don't want to see it just yet.

I would love to see Venom as the villain for the next movie, but since Sam has stated that he will not be using him, I would like to see Electro. He was pretty boring in the cartoons, but when you think of him in a live action Spidey movie, imagine the visual effects you could pull off. He would be a feirce foe for Spidey. Just think of it - A villain with the power to control electricity and move with electric currents at will. That would be quite a challenge for Spidey.

Marcelo
03-16-2005, 08:34 PM
They might use something with the Lizard since he is Spider-man's teacher in spider-man 2

Cronos
03-18-2005, 11:37 AM
i'd love to see Venom kicking Spideys ass, but i expect it'll be the Hobgoblin

Marcelo
03-21-2005, 02:38 PM
So would I, I think that having Venom in the movie would be the coolest and most challenging to make.