Why gay marriage should be legal.

[JohnTheHenchman]

Amendment XIV

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

[Raymond Babbit]

That's exactly the point I've been trying to make. I always bring up the 14th Amendment in convos about that, but no one much seems to care. It's all about the Bible with some people.

[<3mekthx]

What about the bi-sexual who wants to 'marry' a male and female?

[MacReady]

Originally posted by <3mekthx
What about the bi-sexual who wants to 'marry' a male and female?

Essentially, the 14th Amendment says "no law may be passed which infringes on the right of adults to do as they please, so long as the unwilling are not affected", hence forth, it's up to them to decide.

[jeo4]

Sounds reasonable to me. After all...it is the law.

[JohnTheHenchman]

Originally posted by <3mekthx
What about the bi-sexual who wants to 'marry' a male and female?

I don't see how that's a problem.

[EVILxxx]

There is a law against polygamy if that is what you are getting at.

[free]

I don't see how anyone could argue with that.

And aren't traditional conservatives for strict interpretation of the constitution, and against making any new laws that aren't absolutely necessary?

[SubMethod]

Does it seem ridiculous to anybody else that the straight community that has a 50% or higher divorce rate is upset over gay marriage? If we can't get it right, then who are we to say that other people who love each other, just not in the traditional way, can't give it a shot? The sanctity of marriage was ruined the first second "Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire?" aired anyways.

[<3mekthx]

Does it seem ridiculous to anybody else that the straight community that has a 50% or higher divorce rate is upset over gay marriage? If we can't get it right, then who are we to say that other people who love each other, just not in the traditional way, can't give it a shot? The sanctity of marriage was ruined the first second "Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire?" aired anyways.


I was about to say something similar to this. These 24 hour marriages and people who have 6-7 divorces do nothing but shame the sanctity of marriage. I would probably be surprised about how many spouses actually cheat on one another in marriage. I can't even begin to comprehend the thought of marrying someone and then getting it annulled 24 hours later.

[TheDeadWalk]

First and foremost, I am for gay marriage.

I voted against the gay marriage ban in Ohio.


However,

I think there are some loopholes in the amendment. First and foremost, it is up to congress' interpretation. One billion people likely have one billion interpretations, and though we agree on the issue, it's their interpretation that takes affect.

Also,

"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States"

Currently there is no privilege that I am aware of that is for gay marriage, save for few select states (or is it just Vermont?) that have adopted the privilege.

Getting a driver's license is a privilege, but getting a license to drive a flying zoogie is not, because they do not exist. The debate would then be set to whether or not there should be an allotted privilege for the citizens of the United States to be able to attain a license to drive a flying zoogie.

Until your state adopts the privilege, the amendment is not really a matter that deals with gay marriage.



*** The flying zoogie® is a trademark patented by TheDeadWalk

[SLAW]

It's about euquality. Like if certain people were actually allowed to marry multiple people, then everyone should, but they're not, so there's no issue of innequality. But everyone is allowed to marry the love of their lives...except gay people. Therefore it's not equal rights and we should all be concerned greatly by that.

[Maestro]

But everyone is allowed to marry the love of their lives...except gay people. Therefore it's not equal rights and we should all be concerned greatly by that.

Not quite. Equal protection/equal Rights means that either:

a) No one, regardless of sexual orientation, is allowed to marry someone of the same sex. (The way things are now.)

b) Or everyone, again, regardless of sexual orientation, is allowed to marry someone of the same sex.

Of course, if y'all are for letting me--a straight guy--marry my male heterosexual roommate, I could use the tax break.

Maestro

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by Maestro


Of course, if y'all are for letting me--a straight guy--marry my male heterosexual roommate, I could use the tax break.

Maestro

That's one of the things that people fear the most about Gay Marriage, but no one seems to mind that thousands of Americans spend over $9000 each year to travel to Russia and bring home a mail order bride.

That's a bit more stressing to the American economy than two straights marrying.

[TheAxeGrinder]

Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. We've come so far, and yet you want equal rights for everyone and yet you descriminate on marraige? Religiously, I feel that you should love and respect everyone. I mean, whatever happened to, 'Love the sinner, hate the sin?'

What's the worst that could happen? Oh no, kids are going to grow up with two moms or two dads. Big deal. What the hell do you call fathers and stepfathers? Why should you stop two people who care about each other from expressing that love?

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by TheAxeGrinder
Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. We've come so far, and yet you want equal rights for everyone and yet you descriminate on marraige? Religiously, I feel that you should love and respect everyone. I mean, whatever happened to, 'Love the sinner, hate the sin?'

What's the worst that could happen? Oh no, kids are going to grow up with two moms or two dads. Big deal. What the hell do you call fathers and stepfathers? Why should you stop two people who care about each other from expressing that love?

I do agree with you. However, to keep the discussion going, the debate is supposedly that marriage for the 'moral majority' is a sacred bond that they have recognized since our culture's inception. To some people, they feel that it 'demoralizes' the value of their marriage.

I think of it to sort of being like the female who wanted to sign up for the Men's PGA tour awhile back.

[SLAW]

Originally posted by Maestro
[B]
a) No one, regardless of sexual orientation, is allowed to marry someone of the same sex. (The way things are now.)

b) Or everyone, again, regardless of sexual orientation, is allowed to marry someone of the same sex.

People should be allowed to marry their signifant others. I don't think we need to ask homosexuals for proof of their sexuality or make them take a test (like black people trying vote or something).

course, if y'all are for letting me--a straight guy--marry my male heterosexual roommate, I could use the tax break. [/QUOTE]

That is my main concern in life. :rolleyes: What's stopping you from marrying a girl you know for some tax break (that I don't even think is that great anymore)?

[Maestro]

What's stopping you from marrying a girl you know for some tax break

Nothing. And that's the point--there's also nothing stopping, say, the Queer Eye Fab Five from doing the same thing.

Equal protection, equal Rights - Maestro

[Tweek]

Of course, if y'all are for letting me--a straight guy--marry my male heterosexual roommate, I could use the tax break.


Hell, a straight man and straight woman could marry under false pretenses as well.

So why does it matter?

There is a law against polygamy if that is what you are getting at.

Exactly.
And a law against polygamy makes sense.



I do agree with you. However, to keep the discussion going, the debate is supposedly that marriage for the 'moral majority' is a sacred bond that they have recognized since our culture's inception. To some people, they feel that it 'demoralizes' the value of their marriage.


Big deal!
Didn't divorce used to be immoral?
And what's the divorce rate up at now?

[MacReady]

Originally posted by Tweek
Exactly.
And a law against polygamy makes sense.

Care to explain why?

[Tweek]

Originally posted by MacReady
Care to explain why?


Blast!
I was hoping no one would notice i didn't explain.

It makes sense, to me at least, because two or more marriages could result in endless (and i mean ENDLESS) court appointments, stress, and money trouble.

And frankly, unless the men/women are automatons there will be emotional problems which will probably lead to the above.

bleh. hope that made sense

[MacReady]

Originally posted by Tweek
bleh. hope that made sense

Male stranger in Arkansas: I love all of you equally as much. I can't decide who to marry.

3 Female strangers in Arkansas: We all love you so much that we'll agree for each of us to marry you and share you.

Male stranger in Arkansas: Yippeee!

Young female stranger in Seattle: Wait! Althought you three are total strangers and I don't even know you I don't believe polygamy so I'll vote for a law to be elected even thought how many rings each of you have on your fingers while you have sex hasn't the slightest impact on my life.

Makes sense to me.;)

[Tweek]

3 Female strangers in Arkansas: We all love you so much that we'll agree for each of us to marry you and share you.

How do we know it's going to stay that pleasant?

Four out of every five plural marriages ends in plural divorce.
;) ;)

[Maestro]

Hell, a straight man and straight woman could marry under false pretenses as well.

So why does it matter?

If I understand your question, my answer is: it doesn't matter one way or the other (to me), as long as it's the same for everybody.

Maestro

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by Tweek
Big deal!
Didn't divorce used to be immoral?
And what's the divorce rate up at now?

I like to think that those that advocate for the majority of anti-gay marriage are those that hold marriage vows in high respect and/or have been married themselves for a long duration of time.

The other possible majority factor that I figure is those that are just flat out predjudiced.

Either way, to see it fully explained from their viewpoint, it makes sense. Think of a very primal tribe or clan in a third world country. Possibly one that holds high superstitions, laws, or practices those voodoo rituals to tell if someone is guilty or innocent of a crime. Picture that, and then a minority committee to suddenly emerge and tell them that their rituals, superstitions, or certain laws are wrong and need to be adapted into something new. You are likely to irritate the Chief, the elders, and many in the clan because they will not want to make a change in their culture and longtime one-sided beliefs. It doesn't really matter how many times some of them break the chain themselves or come off as hippocrites. It's still a very one-sided belief with the majority.

A change in culture is indeed a big deal, and as I am witnessing in my lifetime, it doesn't seem like the American society is ready for it. Almost, but seemingly not just yet. I kinda get the feeling that maybe a few more years would have been needed before these amendments got rushed out, I feel like the whole movement was just one big rush with not enough time to really get the gay voice out there and speaking. Hopefully some of these states hold off for at least 5 more years and let the citizens get more comfortable and over the homophobia or whatever cluster is bothering them about it.

[bob]

Can we PLEASE get sappy here?

Marriage is supposed to represent the union of two people who would be willing to spend the rest of their lives together. That's it. A law against polygamy makes sense because you shouldn't be getting married unless the person you're getting married to is the ONLY person you want to be with.

A law against gay marriage makes NO sense, because who has the right to tell human beings who they can and can't commit to and love?

Nobody, that's who. Not even me.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by bob

Marriage is supposed to represent the union of two people who would be willing to spend the rest of their lives together.

God I hate sounding like I'm anti-gay marriage. I'm not, really.

But that's not the definition of marriage, nor what it is supposed to represent. Many in standard cultures (and even a distinct minority in our culture or that come and be a 'part of' our culture) don't even marry for love. They deal in arranged marriages.

The word marriage actually means a legal union between a man and a woman. Love is simply an implicit benefit that comes with marriage.

[bob]

Agreed. That's why I said "supposed to be".

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by bob
Agreed. That's why I said "supposed to be".

My apologies for the misinterpretation. "Supposed to be" is synonymous with "is" in some sentence structures.

[chilli pepper]

Gay marriage should be legal because there really isnt a problem behind it. Theres the occasional super bible following uber christian who says "GAY MARRIAGE IS A SIN!!" why do YOU care, if (in your mind) gays supposedly go to hell, why do you care? its not like those two dudes doing it will somehow send you to hell anyway. The reason i'm for it because it doesnt effect me, I'm not gay, I dont plan on marrying a man later on down the line, so therefore it has nothing to with me.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by chilli pepper
Gay marriage should be legal because there really isnt a problem behind it. Theres the occasional super bible following uber christian who says "GAY MARRIAGE IS A SIN!!" why do YOU care, if (in your mind) gays supposedly go to hell, why do you care? its not like those two dudes doing it will somehow send you to hell anyway. The reason i'm for it because it doesnt effect me, I'm not gay, I dont plan on marrying a man later on down the line, so therefore it has nothing to with me.

To try to compare, the 'bible thumpers' are looking at marriage as a whole as their own respectful tradition. They see gay marriage as some on here would probably see Pulp Fiction, Memento, and Fight Club completely remade by Paul W.S. Anderson, with rappers playing all the parts and Eminem doing the soundtrack.

I'm for gay marriage, but I see their point with their tradition. I don't want to look at them and say "Big fuckin deal, move over bitches", I'd rather see gays get what they can now, and try to repeal the process a few years down the road when the culture has softened up.

[someguy]

Note: My post is going to be blunt and I will be throwing around insults to people against gay marriage. Please do not be offended by the comments for they are only being directed towards the people who have enough power to make gay marriage never happen(media, president, congress, republicans[;)]). I am not making any direct/indirect insults to the board members here, and if I do I apologize since I didn't mean it. Now.....

Ok, what is the fucking big deal with all this? I cannot believe that one of the largest issues is people with same sex marrying. It's just two people marrying, the only difference is that they both have dicks and balls or tits and pussy. This is why I hate morality sometimes. It can be great but when it's used wrongly, it's really fucking stupid. Let's look at some of the arguments against this, shall we?

"It's not natural"

Come off it you fucking twat. Human behaviour is possibly the most natural thing. These are simply humans behaving and doing what they want. It's natural.

"Gays are gross

The most childish argument, yes, but that's what we're dealing with most of the time. These people are fucking idiots. IDIOTS. I D I O T S. Want to know why? Well they hate gays, but lesbians are great. That's just falling flat on your god damn face right there. First off, you're being sexist(*gasp* you can be sexist to men? I thought it was only to women)and secondly, you look like a fucking idiot. And why are gays so gross? If you talk to a gay guy will he start making out with you or ass fucking a guy? No. Did you know they are actually pretty normal people, save for some who look and act like complete freaks and set the gays back further. Yes, I said it, and I know about freedom to do what you want, but look at the gay pride parade and tell me that you can take some of those people seriously? I think that hurts the gays so much since it gives people the thought that most are all a bunch of freaks when they're all normal people just like us with the only difference being who they go to bed with.

"Marriage is sacred"

The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire, Married by America

Marriage seems so sacred now, doesn't it?

"Marriage should only be between a man and woman"

Shut the fuck up. Just because a man and woman can procreate doesn't make them have an exclusive membership to marriage. That is being prejudice, something people who don't support gay marriage are against.

"Economy will collapse/Society is ruined/Dire consequences"

Nothing will happen when gays get the rights to marry. Society won't be ruined, economy won't collapse, no dire consequences. You know what will happen? More marriages and divorces because gays/lesbians are allowed now. Nothing bad at all

"If this happens, people will want to get marriage to animals legal!"

.....

Do I really need to point out the stupidity in this statement?

Gay marriages won't do anything bad to us at all. This is a foolish argument to have in government. Gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone except for the extremists against it. And about the Catholic religion(and any other religion), let me point out that legalizing gay marriage is an issue in government, and it clearly states in the constitution that religion and government must be separate. It's simple. rant over

NOTE: On an interview with Larry King, George W Bush said he doesn't want to do anything with gay marriage because he doesn't want to be the one to make that happen. Well that's funny, since he certainly wants to not make it happen, you know with the whole bill going to be passed.

[Lynn7]

Its funny- I read through your post and thoough you make a lot of good points I cna't help but think that humans will never be able to make all this stuff work right. From a Christian perspective I think we can't do anything right apart from God. We see two gay people in love and want them to be together and that is fine. We say what is the big deal anyway? Heteros are always making a mess of their marriages, why should they have a corner on the institution?

Here's what I think- life is more than sex.Life is family, committement and putting other people first. Life isnot about doing what feels good at the time. The shows you mention Bachelor etc are so pathetic- our culture has become so warped. Women longing for some strange guy on TV to propose marriage to them and they are all so vacant! Our whole culture is deteriorating. There are no rules anymore- no more right or wrong.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by someguy


"Marriage should only be between a man and woman"

Shut the fuck up. Just because a man and woman can procreate doesn't make them have an exclusive membership to marriage. That is being prejudice, something people who don't support gay marriage are against.



I think when you get to the intelligent side of the anti-gay marriage folks, they seem to feel that it's not that it "should" it's that it "is" just between a man and a woman.

It's sort of like the "take your daughter to work day". Parents want to include the sons, and then some people have a hissy fit and shout "Go get your own day!" That's sort of the issue somewhat to an extent. They want gays to come up with their own term for marriage, instead of changing the definition of something else that the culture has already created thousands of years ago.

The problem with this is, the hetero society has already came up with a term for the gay society, and they think it should be "Civil Union".

"Bill and Jane are married."

"What about Bob and Steve?"

"They got a civil union."

That's a bit too formal and tacky. In today's society to get it passed, gays are going to have to come up with their own term for marriage, or just wait another generation or two when we've lightened up on the issue and then change the definition of marriage.

[someguy]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
I think when you get to the intelligent side of the anti-gay marriage folks, they seem to feel that it's not that it "should" it's that it "is" just between a man and a woman.

It's sort of like the "take your daughter to work day". Parents want to include the sons, and then some people have a hissy fit and shout "Go get your own day!" That's sort of the issue somewhat to an extent. They want gays to come up with their own term for marriage, instead of changing the definition of something else that the culture has already created thousands of years ago.

The problem with this is, the hetero society has already came up with a term for the gay society, and they think it should be "Civil Union".

"Bill and Jane are married."

"What about Bob and Steve?"

"They got a civil union."

That's a bit too formal and tacky. In today's society to get it passed, gays are going to have to come up with their own term for marriage, or just wait another generation or two when we've lightened up on the issue and then change the definition of marriage.

How about they call it...


Marriage?


Marriage is known to be a man and a woman, and if gay marriage becomes legal it will still be associated with that, except that same sex couples can also marry.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by someguy
How about they call it...


Marriage?


Marriage is known to be a man and a woman, and if gay marriage becomes legal it will still be associated with that, except that same sex couples can also marry.

Yes it will still be known as a man-woman relationship as well, but it is modifying the definition. You have to get people together to agree or disagree on it.

It's like turning the Empire State Building into the "Nabisco Foods Empire State Building"

Not saying I don't agree with you, but I do want to give at least a shad of respect to the other side of the deal. It really is complicated.

[SLAW]

Originally posted by someguy
Note: My post is going to be blunt and I will be throwing around insults to people against gay marriage. Please do not be offended by the comments for they are only being directed towards the people who have enough power to make gay marriage never happen(media, president, congress, republicans[;)]). I am not making any direct/indirect insults to the board members here, and if I do I apologize since I didn't mean it. Now.....

Ok, what is the fucking big deal with all this? I cannot believe that one of the largest issues is people with same sex marrying. It's just two people marrying, the only difference is that they both have dicks and balls or tits and pussy. This is why I hate morality sometimes. It can be great but when it's used wrongly, it's really fucking stupid. Let's look at some of the arguments against this, shall we?

"It's not natural"

Come off it you fucking twat. Human behaviour is possibly the most natural thing. These are simply humans behaving and doing what they want. It's natural.

"Gays are gross

The most childish argument, yes, but that's what we're dealing with most of the time. These people are fucking idiots. IDIOTS. I D I O T S. Want to know why? Well they hate gays, but lesbians are great. That's just falling flat on your god damn face right there. First off, you're being sexist(*gasp* you can be sexist to men? I thought it was only to women)and secondly, you look like a fucking idiot. And why are gays so gross? If you talk to a gay guy will he start making out with you or ass fucking a guy? No. Did you know they are actually pretty normal people, save for some who look and act like complete freaks and set the gays back further. Yes, I said it, and I know about freedom to do what you want, but look at the gay pride parade and tell me that you can take some of those people seriously? I think that hurts the gays so much since it gives people the thought that most are all a bunch of freaks when they're all normal people just like us with the only difference being who they go to bed with.

"Marriage is sacred"

The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire, Married by America

Marriage seems so sacred now, doesn't it?

"Marriage should only be between a man and woman"

Shut the fuck up. Just because a man and woman can procreate doesn't make them have an exclusive membership to marriage. That is being prejudice, something people who don't support gay marriage are against.

"Economy will collapse/Society is ruined/Dire consequences"

Nothing will happen when gays get the rights to marry. Society won't be ruined, economy won't collapse, no dire consequences. You know what will happen? More marriages and divorces because gays/lesbians are allowed now. Nothing bad at all

"If this happens, people will want to get marriage to animals legal!"

.....

Do I really need to point out the stupidity in this statement?

Gay marriages won't do anything bad to us at all. This is a foolish argument to have in government. Gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone except for the extremists against it. And about the Catholic religion(and any other religion), let me point out that legalizing gay marriage is an issue in government, and it clearly states in the constitution that religion and government must be separate. It's simple. rant over

NOTE: On an interview with Larry King, George W Bush said he doesn't want to do anything with gay marriage because he doesn't want to be the one to make that happen. Well that's funny, since he certainly wants to not make it happen, you know with the whole bill going to be passed.

I enjoy the post. If I wrote that I'd start off first with a Tony Soprano quote: "I'm going to say some things to you and I will use some bad words and you're going to have to deal with that, ok?" ;)

[Damone]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
aThey want gays to come up with their own term for marriage, instead of changing the definition of something else that the culture has already created thousands of years ago.


That's seems to be the most common complaint out of the people I know.

"I don't care what they do, just don't call it a marriage."

For some of those folks it's just a matter of semantics. Me personally I think what defines a marriage is the level of love and commitment that's behind the relationship.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by Damone

For some of those folks it's just a matter of semantics. Me personally I think what defines a marriage is the level of love and commitment that's behind the relationship.


HAHAHAHAHAHA

My father seems to think of it just as time spent away from working on his rotrod back in 1978.

[Damone]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
HAHAHAHAHAHA

My father seems to think of it just as time spent away from working on his rotrod back in 1978.

Ok, so maybe that was TOO much of a romantic notion. :D

[Twisted Sister]

Originally posted by someguy
Note: My post is going to be blunt and I will be throwing around insults to people against gay marriage. Please do not be offended by the comments for they are only being directed towards the people who have enough power to make gay marriage never happen(media, president, congress, republicans[;)]). I am not making any direct/indirect insults to the board members here, and if I do I apologize since I didn't mean it. Now.....

Ok, what is the fucking big deal with all this? I cannot believe that one of the largest issues is people with same sex marrying. It's just two people marrying, the only difference is that they both have dicks and balls or tits and pussy. This is why I hate morality sometimes. It can be great but when it's used wrongly, it's really fucking stupid. Let's look at some of the arguments against this, shall we?

"It's not natural"

Come off it you fucking twat. Human behaviour is possibly the most natural thing. These are simply humans behaving and doing what they want. It's natural.

"Gays are gross

The most childish argument, yes, but that's what we're dealing with most of the time. These people are fucking idiots. IDIOTS. I D I O T S. Want to know why? Well they hate gays, but lesbians are great. That's just falling flat on your god damn face right there. First off, you're being sexist(*gasp* you can be sexist to men? I thought it was only to women)and secondly, you look like a fucking idiot. And why are gays so gross? If you talk to a gay guy will he start making out with you or ass fucking a guy? No. Did you know they are actually pretty normal people, save for some who look and act like complete freaks and set the gays back further. Yes, I said it, and I know about freedom to do what you want, but look at the gay pride parade and tell me that you can take some of those people seriously? I think that hurts the gays so much since it gives people the thought that most are all a bunch of freaks when they're all normal people just like us with the only difference being who they go to bed with.

"Marriage is sacred"

The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire, Married by America

Marriage seems so sacred now, doesn't it?

"Marriage should only be between a man and woman"

Shut the fuck up. Just because a man and woman can procreate doesn't make them have an exclusive membership to marriage. That is being prejudice, something people who don't support gay marriage are against.

"Economy will collapse/Society is ruined/Dire consequences"

Nothing will happen when gays get the rights to marry. Society won't be ruined, economy won't collapse, no dire consequences. You know what will happen? More marriages and divorces because gays/lesbians are allowed now. Nothing bad at all

"If this happens, people will want to get marriage to animals legal!"

.....

Do I really need to point out the stupidity in this statement?

Gay marriages won't do anything bad to us at all. This is a foolish argument to have in government. Gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone except for the extremists against it. And about the Catholic religion(and any other religion), let me point out that legalizing gay marriage is an issue in government, and it clearly states in the constitution that religion and government must be separate. It's simple. rant over

NOTE: On an interview with Larry King, George W Bush said he doesn't want to do anything with gay marriage because he doesn't want to be the one to make that happen. Well that's funny, since he certainly wants to not make it happen, you know with the whole bill going to be passed.

OHMYGODITHINKI'MINLOVE. That was sheer brilliance! :cool:

[someguy]

Originally posted by Twisted Sister
OHMYGODITHINKI'MINLOVE. That was sheer brilliance! :cool:

Why thank you :)