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BorderEevilIII
12-15-2004, 11:31 AM
Blockbuster Plans to End Late Fees in 2005
12.14.2004, 05:34 PM

Blockbuster Inc., the nation's biggest movie rental company, says it will eliminate late fees on games and movies as of Jan. 1 - but if you keep them too long, you buy them.

The offer announced Tuesday suggests that Blockbuster is still struggling to blunt the competitive threat from NetFlix Inc. and cable.

The company had expected to earn $250 million to $300 million in operating profits next year from its unpopular late fees but believes it can make up for the lost income with increased volume - betting that customers, no longer worried about late fees, will rent more movies and games.

"We had to deal with late fees," said chairman and chief executive John Antioco. "It's the source of jokes on late-night TV. It's still anecdotally, and in some sense really, the biggest negative to Blockbuster ... There were customer transactions that never happened because of late fees."

Blockbuster shares rose 40 cents, or 4.6 percent, to close at $9.20 on the New York Stock Exchange. That is near the lower end of their 52-week trading range of $6.50 to $19.37.

Blockbuster faces new competition on several fronts - cheap DVDs in discount stores, mail-delivery service from Netflix, and movies on demand from cable TV operators - none of which come with late fees. Dallas-based Blockbuster said it tested dropping late fees in several cities over the past year and found that retail sales of movies increased.

Blockbuster customer Susan Murray, who raced to a Dallas store just before noon Tuesday to avoid a charge, welcomed the planned elimination of late fees. Murray said she gets dinged a late fee almost every time she rents - $11.50 for two movies last week alone - including occasions when she was sure she had beat the deadline.

"I was going to cancel (Blockbuster) and get Netflix," Murray said. "I decided a couple days ago that was it. Now I'll have to reconsider."

But rivals claimed that Blockbuster wasn't really eliminating late fees, only giving customers more time before incurring even larger payments.

Blockbuster said due dates at its 4,500 U.S. stores would remain one week for games and two days or one week for movies. The company said it would give customers a one-week grace period at no charge, starting on New Year's Day.

Renters who keep the movies or games beyond the grace period will be charged for purchasing the DVD or tape at Blockbuster's full retail price, minus the rental fee, the company said. If they return the movie or game in the next 30 days, they will get a refund for the purchase but will be charged a restocking fee of $1.25, the company said.

Reed Hastings, CEO of Los Gatos, Calif.-based Netflix, said Blockbuster had to do something to prevent losing store customers to Netflix and its own online movie-order service, which together have doubled their customers in the past year, to 3 million. Hastings said Blockbuster's move would backfire because of the potential of being charged for purchasing a late DVD.

"Many consumers will be unhappy with the idea that their credit card is going to get charged" if they miss the grace period, he said.

But Chelsea Burns of Dallas, who dashed over from the office where she works as an underwriter to avoid a $4 late charge on her DVD, said Blockbuster's about-face on fees would prompt her to rent a few more movies.

Burns only rents from Blockbuster but said she racks up so many late charges - nearly weekly - that she considered signing up for a $17.49-a-month subscription that comes with no late fees.

"Now I'm glad I didn't sign up because avoiding late fees was the whole reason for doing that," she said.

Named in several class-action lawsuits over late charges, Blockbuster stopped disclosing how much it made from the fees several years ago. In 2000, the last full year for which figures are available, the fees amounted to 19 percent of the company's revenue. A trade publication recently estimated that late fees accounted for about 10 percent of Blockbuster's revenue, which was $5.82 billion last year.

Antioco declined to say how much revenue Blockbuster expected from late fees in 2005, but he said the lost operating profit will be offset by increasing other revenue and cutting costs.

Dennis B. McAlpine, an analyst at McAlpine Associates, said giving up $250 million to $300 million in operating profit didn't make sense.

"What's he getting, other than a warm fuzzy feeling in the bellies of his customers?" McAlpine said. "That's lost money. He's not going to get that back."

Marla Backer, an analyst with Soleil Securities, called Blockbuster's move a positive step that will improve the chain's image. Backer said she was still worried about the weak rental market, however.

In August, Blockbuster launched an Internet-order, mail-delivery service like Netflix. Antioco said he expected to lose some subscriptions but still hit a goal of signing up 10 percent of its store customers by the end of next year.

Blockbuster, Netflix and Wal-Mart Stores Inc. are locked in a brutal price war that has raised questions about the profitability of online-ordering services.

Blockbuster said it would spend about $50 million to promote the end of late fees, mostly on advertising.



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Indy in IN
12-15-2004, 11:45 AM
This is going to save me a lot of money.

They pretty much had to do this. Nexflix, ect.. all have no late fees and they mail the damn thing right to you AND you don't have to pay to return them. They could see a huge decline in business coming soon.

Saruman
12-15-2004, 12:03 PM
I wonder what the grace period for returning is going to be.

bob
12-15-2004, 04:09 PM
I'll stick with Netflix. The selection is what really matters to me.

Jess
12-15-2004, 05:51 PM
Ahem...STOOPID.

People will soon come to realize money taken out from their credit cards after they haven't returned the movie they had rented a few weeks back. Then, all the smaller businesses shall dominate.

Blockbuster doesn't seem to notice that some people who are customers are dumbasses and will completely forget they even rented a movie. That's why there are return times and late fees. Jeez.

Besides, if you rent a movie, obviously you have the intention of watching it the night you rented it or the day after. You're not going to rent, say, The Punisher on Tuesday and go "Nah, I guess I'll watch it on Saturday. I'll probably be in the mood then."

And the poor people who go to rent the new releases on the weekend will have NOTHING because all the smart customers will come in sometime during the week and take hold of them.

Very dumb move, Blockbuster. Very dumb.

Cronos
12-15-2004, 07:38 PM
is this gonna be a universal thing or only in the US?

chilli pepper
12-15-2004, 07:41 PM
Nice idea, considering i've rented at least 20 movies since the first of the month alone.

outsyder
12-15-2004, 09:09 PM
Awesome. So this means I can honestly buy stuff from them by just keeping it out, or do they actually want it back?

Tayzlor
12-15-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by bob
I'll stick with Netflix. The selection is what really matters to me.

Exactly.

scubasteve
12-15-2004, 09:32 PM
Hrmmm, I wonder if you have an 80 dollar late fee with em if it'll just disapear. Hope so.

Country1969
12-16-2004, 09:15 PM
I think they should keep it the way it is now.
I've rented many movies and returned them a day early so I wouldn't forget to do so. By having it the new way, they will lose out. People will not return the movie for others to watch. You rent it for 2 days, bring it back in 2 days. You rent it for 5 days, bring it back in 5 days. What's so hard about it? You bring it back late , you pay the late fee.

Also they should charge people for not taking care of them also.
You renting them does not mean you get the scratch them and use them for coasters.

adamjohnson
12-16-2004, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Saruman
I wonder what the grace period for returning is going to be.

Probably when the late fee amounts to the price of the film.

bluesbrother965
12-16-2004, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Saruman
I wonder what the grace period for returning is going to be.

I think the article said it'd be a week. But I don't see the point of grace periods. If you're going to have a one week "grace period", why not just make all rentals two week rentals and eliminate the concept altogether?

moviegroupie
12-18-2004, 11:32 AM
they should improve XBOX game selection while they are at it, they had nearly none.

Lindsey
12-18-2004, 05:38 PM
Ha! I laugh at Blockbuster, because there's no way in hell that's going to last long. People are going to take advantage of the 'grace period', and Blockbuster is going to be screwed. There's a limited amount on some DVD's as there is, so when 20 people have the same DVD out for a week, what does that leave us?

I work at Hollywood Video, so obviously I won't be shopping at Blockbuster anytime soon...!

Bear
12-18-2004, 05:51 PM
oh, kickass! U don't understand, my Blockbuster has an AWESOME horror section.

ColdOne
12-19-2004, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Country1969
I think they should keep it the way it is now.
I've rented many movies and returned them a day early so I wouldn't forget to do so. By having it the new way, they will lose out. People will not return the movie for others to watch. You rent it for 2 days, bring it back in 2 days. You rent it for 5 days, bring it back in 5 days. What's so hard about it? You bring it back late , you pay the late fee.

Amen! Whatever happened to personal responsibilty?

Also they should charge people for not taking care of them also.
You renting them does not mean you get the scratch them and use them for coasters.

Or a bib or napkin. Leaving chicken grease on the disc for the next customer to clean is not nice.

therealjohng
12-25-2004, 07:48 PM
Man I hate blockbuster....

TheDeadWalk
12-25-2004, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Saruman
I wonder what the grace period for returning is going to be.

"Blockbuster said due dates at its 4,500 U.S. stores would remain one week for games and two days or one week for movies. The company said it would give customers a one-week grace period at no charge, starting on New Year's Day."

If you can't return a movie in three or five days now, what makes these people think that seven would be so much better?

Even if you can only rent movies one day a week, the return time is likely going to be the same: 12:00 PM. A fucking bogus time to get you to return movies late to begin with.

I'll stick with Netflix.

Inglorious
12-28-2004, 11:55 PM
They tested it here... in Utah. it got dull quick.

I wonder... will existing late fees be erased?

AceD
12-30-2004, 09:40 AM
"Awesome. So this means I can honestly buy stuff from them by just keeping it out, or do they actually want it back?"

Yes, you can buy it, but it won't be cheap.

I agree with Lindsey; although I'm not sure I agree that it won't last. Maybe Blockbuster will just cease to have even a decent selection on the weekends. Everyone will go to Movie Gallery (where I work) or Hollywood.

And by the way....Movie Gallery will be releasing its own bit of big news soon. Just wait. ;)

BorderEevilIII
12-30-2004, 09:55 AM
I just heard that Blockbuster was trying to take over Hollywood Video but they told them to piss off :D Well they did NOT say in those exact words but HV is not going belly up yet.....

Kal-El76
01-19-2005, 02:35 PM
Here is the question-de-jour...

Does this mean the $20 or so I owe from LAST year has been absolved?

Here is a smart-ass rant: Maybe this is all a grand ploy to dump scratched and shitty DVDs to trailer-park folk who don't own calendars, watches and alarm clocks. I'll tell you this... If I or my wife forget to return a DVD for a few days, its probably becasue it sucked so bad that I have put a lot of effort into forgetting it exists ;) - Anyhoo, all of my DVDs in my collection are in immaculate condition (except for my Se7en DVD, which I leant to someone...NEVER AGAIN). I don't want to sully its pristine-edness with some chicken-grease infested disks from McBlockbuster.

"Thats just my opinion, I could be wrong"