View Full Version : The End of DVD's - Does it also freak you out?
Thiago
12-16-2004, 11:27 PM
Guys, I'm 20 years old. Fact is, by the end of my lifetime (if everything goes well) DVD's will probably be dead and buried. But I spend most of the extra money I get in them, and the thought that in like 20 years all the money I invested was worth nothing (some new 'ultra' digital media might be released and will make DVD's look like , blargh, VHS) and I'll have to buy all the movies I like again. And that's a loooot. I think you guys can understand what I'm talking about. Well, anyway, I know DVD's will last LONG, I mean, VHS is not even finished yet. But that thought kinda lingers in my mind. What do you guys think?
Raul Duke
12-16-2004, 11:57 PM
yea man, also everyone says eventually FS arent gonna play on most tvs, so I buy all WS versions, and I dont have any huge tvs in my house, so it's actually pretty dumb.
Saruman
12-17-2004, 10:57 AM
It will be a long time before something beats out dvd. I think investing in them now is pretty safe for the long run.
Cronos
12-17-2004, 02:40 PM
not at all bothered, theyll last a long time and unless one of them breaks or a really good improvement in picture or something happens, there wont be any need for me to upgrade
Indy in IN
12-17-2004, 03:21 PM
I can see HD-DVD, but how friggin clear does a picture have to be? I don't want to see every zit on Tom Cruise's ass, ok?
Moviefan1234
12-18-2004, 11:35 AM
I think it's going to be a long time until something replaces them, and when it does there's no doubt in my mind they will be DVD compatible.
Hot-Handed Fury
12-18-2004, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Raul Duke
yea man, also everyone says eventually FS arent gonna play on most tvs, so I buy all WS versions, and I dont have any huge tvs in my house, so it's actually pretty dumb.
Of course FS will play on WS tvs, but why not simply use the zoom feature on your DVD player if you want the movie's frame to fit your tv?
Originally posted by Saruman
It will be a long time before something beats out dvd. I think investing in them now is pretty safe for the long run.
Originally posted by Cronos
not at all bothered, theyll last a long time and unless one of them breaks or a really good improvement in picture or something happens, there wont be any need for me to upgrade
Well, how about sometime in the next 2 years? Blu-Ray technology and HD-DVD are already receiving lots of support from all the major studios, and the picture are audio quality are devastatingly good(according to those who've seen the demos). The Playstation 3 will use Blu-Ray technology, and if you buy one of those, then you'll automatically upgrade to a next-gen movie player.
Originally posted by Indy in IN
I can see HD-DVD, but how friggin clear does a picture have to be? I don't want to see every zit on Tom Cruise's ass, ok?
Its not so much about clarity as it is about getting an un-compressed video & audio track. Current Dual layer DVDs can only hold about 8 Gigs of data, and Blu-Ray discs will hold about 50 Gb; scientists already made a disc thats capable of holding 1000 Gb of data, so hopefully the SUPERBIT discs of the future will use something like that.
Originally posted by Moviefan1234
I think it's going to be a long time until something replaces them, and when it does there's no doubt in my mind they will be DVD compatible.
2-3 years, there will be another huge format war between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. Its really stupid too, because some studios back HD-DVD and some only back BluRay. But with the Playstation 3 using BluRay technology, I'm sure most people will go for that one and eventually all the studios will switch to it.
Thiago
12-19-2004, 12:26 AM
2-3 years?! hahah you're reeeeealy pushing it, man. DVDs are still stablishing themselves in most parts of the world, and they're being very sucessful. They're actually making people collect movies around the world, that has never happened before. Here in Brazil, DVD's were released in 1999, but it's safe to say that 2004 was the best year for DVD's. This Christmas, everywhere you go there's a store with a sign "Buy 2 DVD's, win one for free". That doesn't mean VHS is dead. And it won't for the next 5 years AT LEAST. DVD's, as we know them, are going to last AT LEAST 20 years. That's a Fact.
Slim_JGE
12-19-2004, 05:55 AM
This bothers me sometimes, but I don't think about it too much as it's gonna be a while before DVDs go the way of the VHS. We'll get more advanced DVDs before they go away (blue-ray, HD, etc. etc.) and I'm sure the players will be retro-compatable.
Briare Rabbit
12-19-2004, 01:12 PM
Blu-ray and the like will come a long, like people said, and upgrade current dvd's but they will never replace them entirely. I mean, it's high resolution, and the studios will put some movies on these disks, but they wont go back and redo every title like they did for DVD. It isnt a practical thought.
And the whole 1000 MB thing, I read an article, and most people think that disks with such memory capabilities will never be used. They'd be far too expensive.
SkyNet
12-19-2004, 01:20 PM
ha im also 20 years old and have spent a shit load of $ on my dvd collection!
I figure its close to or even over 10 Grand. (A lil less then 500 DVD's... $10-$20 a pop... you do the math)
it does worry me that a new format will replace DVD, in the form of Picture and Sound quality. But as far as Extra Features go i think DVD is safe until im well into my 60's! I was never big on Picture and Sound Quality, i mean, i dont want my movies soundiong and looking like shit.. but id much prefer a DVD packed with hour long documentaries about how they made the flick as opposed to a Superbit!
Too bad theyd ont have a DVD Collectors Anonymous... DVDCA (one letter away from a porno position and the name of Trey Parker and Matt Stones Band)!
Misanthrope
12-19-2004, 01:55 PM
Here is a thought: There are already better compression technologies for digital videos like mpeg 4 and DivX.
9gb is ALOT of space, If someone still wants better quality or more runtime and space for extra features without sacrificing quality, why not keep the DVD disk technology and improve the video compression technology?
I know divx does loose some quality and doesnt has the best seeking abilities for chapters, but i mean it cant be that hard to put money into compression.
This whole blueray and other formats seem like a waste of space, A double layer dvd can fit alot of information, why is people not trying to become better at compression?
Nachokoolaid
12-19-2004, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Hot-Handed Fury
2-3 years, there will be another huge format war between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. Its really stupid too, because some studios back HD-DVD and some only back BluRay. But with the Playstation 3 using BluRay technology, I'm sure most people will go for that one and eventually all the studios will switch to it.
Yeah, but that's irrelavent, because Blu-Ray still plays DVDs. In other words, it's backwards compatible, so your current DVD will not be obsolete. It's just that the new discs that use the technology will be better quality, etc.
One more thing, a lot more people will have the next X-Box than the PS3, so that won't be much of a factor either.
Patrick Bateman
12-19-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by SkyNet
I was never big on Picture and Sound Quality, i mean, i dont want my movies soundiong and looking like shit.. but id much prefer a DVD packed with hour long documentaries about how they made the flick as opposed to a Superbit!
Yes. I completely agree.
Thunder
12-19-2004, 11:32 PM
I'm not really worried because of a few things:
1) blu ray and hd-dvd will support dvd's, it's suicide not to do it.
2) The new formats will re-release all the old movies we know and love. The question is: do we care? Do you honestly really need to have a copy of Ghost Dad in hd-dvd? Little Monsters with blu ray technology? How about any PTA film? Of course you don't (but you'd still probably buy it). The fact if you own the DVD, you won' t be buying the new format unless it's SUPER AMAZING. (ie, new features, new proper transfers etc etc).
VHS to DVD was a natural progresion, VHS just looks garbage when placed next to DVD, but do you really need to rebuy all those movies again in a new format because it'll look a little nicer? Please. There will be some movies we'll rebuy because we know and love them, but the vast majority we'll simply say "i've got the dvd, do i really give a fuck about a new blooper reel? Sure i'll pay another 40 bucks for it!"
3) it's still years away. IF the rumors are holding true, we are on the verge of a beta-vhs war all over again. Both sides have equal support, and you know dam well the public is NOT going to be buying two different players just to watch disney on one side, and time warner on the other. They'll have to sort that out before anything even happens.
Personally, I think Playstation should stick with blu-ray, and movies go with hd-dvd. But some things are going to have to change. Namely, getting the 95.5% of people to actually purchase a hd tv, along with the new player is going to be incredibly tough, especially when the public suddenly realizes how completely fucked they just got over the quick change in formats.
We'll have to see. Personally, i'm keeping my dvd's. I'll be buying new editions of LOTR, Braveheart and a few old favorities, but I can live with my current transfer of Don't Be A Menace to South central, thank you.
thedudeman69
12-19-2004, 11:54 PM
Nah. It wouldn't scare me. The Apcolypse, now that is a other story. :D
Fisting Ackbar
12-20-2004, 05:29 AM
Well, good thing that I don't buy many DVD's. :cool:
Damone
12-20-2004, 08:31 AM
All the talk about new technology always reminds me of the scene from Men In Black when Tommy Lee Jones is showing Will Smith all the technology they get from aliens and when he holds up what he says will eventually replace CDs and remarks, "Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again." :)
Thunder
12-20-2004, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Nachokoolaid
Yeah, but that's irrelavent, because Blu-Ray still plays DVDs. In other words, it's backwards compatible, so your current DVD will not be obsolete. It's just that the new discs that use the technology will be better quality, etc.
One more thing, a lot more people will have the next X-Box than the PS3, so that won't be much of a factor either.
Uh no, no they won't.
Do you really want to compare X-Box sales vs. ps2? PS3 is going to outsell anything and anyone out there for many years to come, please don't fool yourself into believing xbox2 is going to beat it. It might look better yes, outsell? No.
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