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The Postmaster General
01-20-2005, 05:57 PM
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Stan Lee set for marvellous payout
By Jesse Hiestand

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Comic book legend Stan Lee could be in for a monster payday after a Manhattan judge ruled that Marvel Enterprises had unfairly deprived him of profits generated by "Spider-Man" and other characters over the past seven years.

Lee's attorney Howard Graff said U.S. District Court Judge Robert Sweet's decision to enforce Lee's 10% profit participation could amount to tens of millions of dollars, as the court noted that the first "Spider-Man" movie alone has yielded more than $50 million (26.8 million pounds) to Marvel.

"The foundation of (Marvel) was based on characters he created, and to have to ultimately sue to enforce an agreement under which they were supposed to give him his fair share was very disturbing," Graff said. "We're certainly hoping that Marvel, after they recover from the sting of this decision, will determine that it's time to own up to its obligations to Mr. Lee."

Added the 82-year-old Lee, "I am very gratified by the judge's decision, although, since I am deeply fond of Marvel and the people there, I sincerely regret that this situation had to come to this."

Marvel has vowed to appeal the decision, which was made Monday but disclosed by the parties Wednesday.

Marvel downplayed the decision as only a partial victory for Lee because he was not entitled to a share of money that Marvel received from third-party licensees of movie-based merchandise. The court further declined to rule on Lee's claim that he deserved to share in profits from Marvel's joint venture with Sony over "Spider-Man" merchandise or from Marvel's international "The Incredible Hulk" movie merchandise licensing program with Universal Studios. Those issues still might require a jury trial, according to Marvel general counsel John Turitzin.

"We do not expect this decision to have an effect on our financial guidance for 2004, 2005 or our future prospects," Turitzin said in a statement.

That was an assessment shared by analysts at Thomas Weisel Partners, who said that Marvel likely had set aside a reserve to cover this case. Shares of the New York-based company, which owns the rights to more than 4,700 characters including those from "X-Men" and "Fantastic Four," fell 4.5% in trading to a close of $17.41 on the New York Stock Exchange.

Marvel hired Lee in 1939, and he has worked there nearly his entire adult life as an editor, art director, head writer and publisher.

The case, filed in November 2002, centered on two sentences of a November 17, 1998, contract Lee and Marvel negotiated after Marvel emerged from bankruptcy.

Prior to the 1994 bankruptcy, Marvel granted Lee a 10% participation for gross receipts received under an arrangement with Danchuk Prods. The post-bankruptcy agreement guaranteed Lee "a participation equal to 10% of the profits derived during (his) life by Marvel (including subsidiaries and affiliates) from profits of any live-action or animated television or movie (including ancillary rights) productions utilizing Marvel characters."

According to Marvel, that meant a share of only those productions that afforded net profit participation, or what the company called "Hollywood accounting," because production and distribution costs are first subtracted.

Lee insisted he was entitled to a share of all profits, including gross proceeds and a share of merchandising profits -- something Marvel adamantly disputed.

"Skilled counsel for both sides praise the clarity of the language of (this) paragraph to reach directly contrary results," Judge Sweet said in his motion.

In the end, Sweet looked no further than the dictionary for the definition of profits.

"In short, the first sentence of (the contract) is not ambiguous," Sweet said. "It provides that Lee is entitled to share in the results of Marvel's arrangements for movie and television productions involving Marvel characters . . ."

Sweet also rejected Marvel's claim that "ancillary rights" do not necessarily include merchandising. As a result, he said Lee was entitled to a share of those profits as well.

The ruling does not affect the $1 million annual salary that Lee continues to collect from Marvel under their 1998 agreement.

Lee is currently chairman and chief creative officer of POW! Entertainment Inc., where he continues to create new characters.

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
(http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=657323)



All I can say is that I've once again gained faith in our justice system!!!

Psychocandy
01-20-2005, 06:44 PM
About fucking time. I hope those cretinous cocksucking fuckwads get reamed.

Tweek
01-20-2005, 07:36 PM
Nooch.:cool: :cool:

Patrick Bateman
01-20-2005, 07:43 PM
Stan's THE MAN. Nuff said. :cool:

Redneck Punk
01-20-2005, 09:02 PM
Excelsior!

A.J. Hakari
01-20-2005, 09:04 PM
http://www.splashcomics.de/images/portraits/kuenstler/bio_stan1.gif

"I'm RICH, BIOTCH!"

chilli pepper
01-20-2005, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by Adam J. Hakari
http://www.splashcomics.de/images/portraits/kuenstler/bio_stan1.gif

"I'm RICH, BIOTCH!"

I was thinking of something to say, but Adam just seemed to nail it alittle better than me. :D

B1rd_Po0p
01-20-2005, 09:08 PM
Right on Stan - you get on down with your bad self!!

A.J. Hakari
01-20-2005, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by chilli pepper
I was thinking of something to say, but Adam just seemed to nail it alittle better than me. :D

And I don't even watch "Chappelle's Show" on a regular basis! :D

adamjohnson
01-20-2005, 11:36 PM
Lets just hope Marvel doesnt go under because of this.

EXCELSIOR!

KcMsterpce
01-21-2005, 12:11 AM
Yeah, this is a shame Stan The Man had to sue to get what he should have been entitled to all along.

Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, anyone? Talk about a disgrace to the source(s), eh? Jeez...

Buck Turgidson
01-21-2005, 01:46 AM
For the love of God...Stan Lee IS Marvel Comics. I know these inhuman assclowns who sign the checks have exactly no collective memory, but couldn't someone have clued them in? They all have jobs because this amazing man hooked up with cats like Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, John Romita, John & Sal Buscema and Don Heck and breathed life into these characters.

He's the God of Marvel's universe. You don't try to job the Almighty with financial legerdemain.

Tweek
01-21-2005, 03:19 AM
For the love of God...Stan Lee IS Marvel Comics.

Exactly.
Steve Ditko

DITKO=Also the man

James Logan
01-21-2005, 04:14 AM
About time.

Tagia_Romero
01-21-2005, 05:05 AM
Stan is The Man for sure.
About bloody time he got paid his dues.

Voodoodoll
01-21-2005, 10:08 AM
Justice is served. :cool:

Cronos
01-21-2005, 10:19 AM
about time

jeo4
01-21-2005, 11:03 AM
It's his work and his property, so I'd say it's his money, too.

Shockwave
01-21-2005, 04:40 PM
Damn straight!

This kicks ass, i thought for sure this would get lost in the system for years.:cool:

bourahioro
01-21-2005, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Psychocandy
About fucking time. I hope those cretinous cocksucking fuckwads get reamed.


well said.

Underground
02-03-2005, 04:00 PM
I'm really late on this thread, but have to say ecstatically

FUCK YEAH!, Stan finally paid for HIS ideas.

Now he doesn't have to go around the country listening to cheesy questions by over absorbed Golden Age Marvel Fans at Comic Book Conventions.

And it only took 50 years[

Nachokoolaid
02-11-2005, 05:42 AM
In a related story, this unidentified individual is being brought in for questioning by the police.

http://bassoatesino.clarence.com/archive/images/030611hulk03.jpg

Our sources are saying that this man was paid by Lee to coerce the judge into a "satisfactory" ruling. The investigation into these claims is ongoing.

Underground
03-04-2005, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Nachokoolaid


http://bassoatesino.clarence.com/archive/images/030611hulk03.jpg
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Me is green with envey

FunkDaddy
03-09-2005, 01:00 PM
That's awesome. Glad for him, I love Stan Lee!