Cursed

[ilovemovies]

Opens this Friday. I'm hoping it's good especially since the last time Wes Craven and Kevin Williamson teamed together the result were the Scream flicks.

Unfortunately, the so-so trailer, the PG-13 rating and the lame clips and commercials make things not bode so well for this movie.

Still, I hope I'm wrong and it's good.

[Fisting Ackbar]

Alright, let's see if we can go without making puns or witty comments such as how "cursed" this movie is :p

But seriously, I have yet to forgive Craven for SCREAM 3, and so far there's nothing that implies that this will be any better.

[Strider]

Hmm. This looks like another stupid and boring PG-13 "horror" flick. I'm not a big fan of Wes Craven, and I think the Scream films are terribly overrated. Plus, I heard this film has been on the shelf for awhile now (don't know if that's true or not). But at least Christina Ricci is in it. I still like her. Anyway, I may check out Cursed, or I may skip it.

Strider

[dellamorte dellamore]

Pretty sure the teen crowd will eat it up .

[MadsenOMC]

When it was R, I was looking forward to it. Surely it wasn't going to redefine the werewolf movie or be an instant classic, but I figured there would be some nice gore and it'd be a good time. Even with all the bad buzz and reshoots, I had a little bit of hope. Now, though, I'd be shocked if it didn't totally suck ass. I'm pissed too because I was going to review it, and my boss called me last week to say that the advanced screening had been cancelled and they weren't screening it for critics where I live. Not a good sign.

[daddiefatsacks]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
When it was R, I was looking forward to it. Surely it wasn't going to redefine the werewolf movie or be an instant classic, but I figured there would be some nice gore and it'd be a good time. Even with all the bad buzz and reshoots, I had a little bit of hope. Now, though, I'd be shocked if it didn't totally suck ass. I'm pissed too because I was going to review it, and my boss called me last week to say that the advanced screening had been cancelled and they weren't screening it for critics where I live. Not a good sign.

well that pretty much says the direction that this film is heading.

its movies like these, that i feel like walking into the middle of the theater while the crowd is watching, and just take a big shit on a seat, and let the whole theater decide whats worse, the movie or the smell.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by daddiefatsacks
its movies like these, that i feel like walking into the middle of the theater while the crowd is watching, and just take a big shit on a seat, and let the whole theater decide whats worse, the movie or the smell.

Holy shit daddiefatsacks. I nearly spit my coffee all over the computer. That is hilarious and just what the doctor ordered on a Monday morning. Thank you.

[The Mack]

I'll be there this weekend to see it. Yes, it very well might suck. But I've been waiting through all the bullshit for this movie to come out, and that's a long time of waiting. So, I have to make sure my waiting was not for nothing.

[deppjolieperabo]

it looks ok, but i'm gonna wait for the dvd..

[GoldenGhost]

Originally posted by deppjolieperabo
it looks ok, but i'm gonna wait for the dvd..

That's probably a wise choice, seen as though it's pretty much in the bag that an uncut dvd version will be on the shelves. However, I'm hoping us UK folks will get it uncut on the big screen, as we did with Saw and Haute Tension. The BBFC seem to be pretty tame after re-releasing banned films such as Clockwork Orange, Straw Dogs ...

Anyhow, I'm still holding onto a splitting string of confidence with Cursed. It seems to have gone through hell, but the little bugger's bounced back, even though it went through some trouble on the way. I must admit the trailer isn't all too exciting but it looks like a slap-dash job to me.

It doesn't seem like the sort of film I would anticipate, but I had sooo much fun with Craven and Williamson's Scream and seen as though the team are on the band wagon, I'm up for it. Hoping it will be a fun little flick anyhow, not expecting anything too special.

[Sigur509]

I will see it, on DVD. I will not anymore go to a PG-13 horror movie at the theaters. Fucking 13 year old girls screaming their heads off, and even if I wanted to enjoy it, I couldnt. I will see it in the comfort of my own home.

But its nice to see Craven and Williamson back together. Though I would be more excited if it were a slasher flick, insted of a werewolf film.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by Sigur509
I will see it, on DVD. I will not anymore go to a PG-13 horror movie at the theaters.


Not even The Ring 2, which unlike Cursed, actually looks great!

[Elgyn]

Originally posted by Strider
Plus, I heard this film has been on the shelf for awhile now (don't know if that's true or not).


Oh, buddy.......it hasn`t JUST been "sitting on the shelf".....the finished movie was actually SCRAPPED and completely re-filmed!

I have a free pass, so I might go see this.....drunk. And that will only be for Christina Ricci.

[Digifruitella]

I will see it this Weekend just because I have nothing else to do, and because I like Wes Craven and Scream..but I will go to see it for the suspense. The VFX looks pathetic though I can't believe Wes let that slip.

[PuggyD]

I don't think the rating would've helped it much either way, this movie went through production hell and looks pretty damn bad. And pretty damn funny - I'm seeing it ASAP.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by PuggyD
I don't think the rating would've helped it much either way, this movie went through production hell and looks pretty damn bad. And pretty damn funny - I'm seeing it ASAP.

Granted, it is one source and not an entirely reliable one, but Moriarty (I'm pretty sure it was him) reviewed this a couple months ago and said it needed to stay an R and that there was some great violence and gore in the R cut of it. So, in this case, the rating might make a small difference.

[thedudeman69]

The movie execs are morons. They have scrapped a R-rated film for a crappy PG-13? well, That tells you how stupid people are, and how much gulliable they are for seeing such shitty movies. I am not getting the dvd or stepping foot in this movie when it comes out tommorrow.

[TornDaredevil]

I'm seeing this supposed shitfest in a little less than 2 hours so I'll report back right away. I hope it's decent, but the word is not good. No screenings for critics is never good. But hey, I'd rather see this than that fucking Man of the House POS.

[TornDaredevil]

OK, just got back from the movie...

Not complete crap. Don't get me wrong, plenty of it sucks. For example... The mix of werewolf CGI and a werewolf suit, Ellen Degeneres' girlfriend, Craig Kilborne, Scott Baio, Lance Bass (I shit you not), the male butt nudity, the acting, the gay undertones, the first ending along with it's "villain", some of the second ending, the lack of violence/gore, the music, Christina Ricci's forehead, etc...

BUT, I did have some fun. It gets off to a bad start. Beginning movie with the song "Little Red Riding Hood" - GOOD. Beginning the movie with "Little Red Riding Hood" performed by Bowling For Soup - BAD. There is some fun atmosphere going on throughout though, and the film works best when it takes itself the least seriously. The dog turning into a werewolf was kinda fun, and the film's kills weren't bad, but were in desperate need of an R-Rating. PLEASE, I want an R-Rated version on DVD. Mya's death scene is pretty badass (even though I swear to God they shot it in the same parking garage that was featured prominently in Bowfinger).

Whoever cast Christina Ricci and Joshua Jackson as leads should be fired (if they haven't been already after the fiasco making this movie was). They have ZERO chemistry. NONE. This movie is proof that Ricci cannot and never will carry a movie as the lead. She's not capable. The guy who plays Ricci's brother is mildly amusing but his werewolf reasearch gets tiresome, as does the dialogue in general. PLEASE stop casting Shannon Elizabeth. She's pretty hot, but her line delivery is atrocious. Also, no rules were set for werewolf transformation, but I guess the filmmakers had other problems on their hands. :) When there is CG, it's mostly decent, but the werewolf suit was fucking ridiculous (especially when "the suit" werewolf gave the finger to the cops...yikes...)

While not a very good movie, I enjoyed myself and it was worth the $6.50 I paid. The blame should not be placed on Craven. It goes to Williamson for a lame script with terrible dialogue, and the studio for cutting the movie to shreds. The first 2/3 was the most enjoyable, but the last 1/3 was pretty fucking weak. Craven does what he can to make the remnants fun. If you go in with low expectations (read: as low as possible), you might catch yourself having a decent time. I know I had a goofy grin on my face some of the time. There was a really fun movie in there somewhere that got totally lost.

5.5/10

(Oh, and I was 1 of 6 people in the theater)

[Harry Warden]

I love Canada! The R rated version was gore filled. Please refer to my post in the horror board. I'd love to hear what violence there was to find in the PG-13!


One scene was a major homage to the blood bed from A Nightmare On Elm Street. Really effing bloody!

[TornDaredevil]

That must be the dream sequence you're talking about. I heard it was originally really bloody, but there was none in the version I saw.

I don't recall seeing any blood really at all... A few splatters here and there... Was your version really that gory??? That gets me excited for the DVD.

[daddiefatsacks]

Wow, we definately got the R-Rated goods, wooo!

Still not a great movie, but entertaining none the less, i'd say the last half hour it goes a little "scream-ish" in the ending, and kind of comedic? (a middle finger by a werewolf? the homophobe suddenly becoming the comedic sidekick?) but i will say I was never bored during the entire movie.

It still felt a little choppy, one particular death of a character i expected to be filled with gore (there was a big lead up to it) but when the person gets killed it just goes to a blank screen.

Overall it's a pretty fun movie, and a nice twist on the werewolf flicks, altho it did have that 'whodunnit' type of feel like the scream movies, but it was interesting!

6/10

[MadsenOMC]

SPOILERS!!!

When something like Boogeyman or White Noise turns out to be awful, it's not a huge shocker. If someone was entertained by either, I'm guessing low expectations played a part in it. And there's nothing wrong with that, just for the record. However, when you have Kevin Williamson and Wes Craven team up for a werewolf movie, I think it's fair to have elevated expectations. You certainly do not expect to get a Boogeyman. Because of that, I was stupefied by the utter incompetency displayed throughout this movie. It is hard to believe that Mr. Wes Craven directed this atrocious mess, and frankly I'm surprised he didn't take his name off of it. He probably should have. It seems much more like the debut of a young music video or commercials director than an offering from Craven.

The movie blows ass from the very beginning. I mean, the first few seconds. You're thrust into the action and quickly get your first taste of the abysmal acting and horrific writing that is to follow. Mya, Shannon Elizabeth and Portia de Rossi are all completely terrible and the writing had me in stitches. Then, when Elizabeth is in the parking lot and it seems as if they're setting up a kill scene, they awkwardly cut to Ricci and Eisenberg. Just didn't feel right. I don't agree with others who have said that it gets off to a good start before heading south. I don't think much of anything works for the entire running time. The dialogue between Ricci and Joshua Jackson was hysterical. I mean seriously, how could you say those lines and not laugh your ass off? "That was the old me." "I really care about you." Are you fucking with me here? Pick any show on the WB (or UPN for that matter) and you'll find better writing. Even Dawson's Creek never had writing that bad. It was almost surreal, seeing Ricci and Jackson recite those painfully silly and cliched lines. The high school stuff was just as bad, if not more. Do high school kids still talk that way? Not the ones I know. And the guy who's homophobic because he's really gay? Come on. That was tired about 10 years ago. That's the best Williamson can do these days? Pathetic. And why would he like that stupid girl when she hangs on her fuckstick boyfriend and keeps saying, "Don't pay any attention to him." Annoying.

The Mya parking garage scene was OK, but it was over just as I was getting into it, and the stupid fucking CGI all but ruined it. And speaking of CGI, how about that transformation folks? About the worst one you've ever seen? It's even worse than the ones in Bad Moon (which had no budget and is 1,000 times better than this) and An American Werewolf in Paris. Again, I could hardly believe what I was seeing. That leads to Tinsel. I like the idea behind Tinsel. It had potential. It could have been cool. But, it isn't. And holy shit does it go on forever, at least 15 minutes past when I thought it was over. But it wasn't scary or entertaining, just tedious. Same for the whole movie. Someone needs to bitch slap Craven for all the "boo" scares. There must be 10 or 15 in the movie, someone sneaking up on someone else. That is a bad sign. No genuine scares, though. Just a couple of cheap jumps that this movie does not deserve.

As with AVP, the rating really hurts Cursed. PG-13 werewolf doesn't work at all. You take out all the ferocity and brutality. Not much blood or gore here. When all is said and done, nothing in Cursed works. I wanted to love this movie. Like many others here, I was extremely excited back when it was first announced. I loved the idea of Craven and Williamson doing a werewolf movie, and never in a million years did I imagine it would be PG-13. So I take no joy in hating this movie. But it is a massive piece of shit. The acting is awful. The writing is even worse. The CGI is laughable. The pacing is all out of whack, which was to be expected because of the reshoots. Some of the sets were terrible and unconvincing. This should have gone straight to video. What a waste. Fuck Dimension.

2/10 (because for a minute I enjoyed the Mya parking garage scene)

[dellamorte dellamore]

Madsen is back with a vengeance :) .

[MadsenOMC]

I couldn't resist. But honestly, it's because I care about the genre and detest seeing efforts like this one, especially from seasoned veterans like Craven and Williamson, though to be fair, the studio shares a lot of the blame.

[bob]

I don't get all the hubbub about the rating. If a movie sucks as a PG-13, it's still gonna suck as an R.

Are some splattered intestines so important that they're going to improve the actual quality of the film, or is it a matter of principle?

[chinton]

Rock on!



What a total half assed movie. I mean wast this supposed to be thrilling or scar or anything. I kept hearing this was supposed to be a character driven horror film but there were two problems. The character were as exciting as paint drying and the movie was dead in the water.


Full review up later


It felt like a dull USA "horror"film.

[Tweek]

When I saw the trailer I said "WHY?! WHY?!"

[dellamorte dellamore]

Originally posted by bob
I don't get all the hubbub about the rating. If a movie sucks as a PG-13, it's still gonna suck as an R.

Are some splattered intestines so important that they're going to improve the actual quality of the film, or is it a matter of principle?

Yes it can . I caught Day of the Dead on broadcast television one time , and they cut out all the gore and cussing , what a dreadful experience it was , some films can and do benefit from the gore . Cursed was never meant to be a psychological horror film , at least i don't think it was , one of it's driving forces should be gore and lycan brutality .

[chinton]

heres my full review


“The Viewers Are Cursed” By Blake Hinton

The new werewolf film Cursed by Wes Craven is one of those odd films that had such a disaster of a time in production the behind-the-scenes stories become more interesting than the move. The film not only had to be re-shot once almost entirely, but other sections had to be re-shot also. Apparently, the werewolf make-up was not up to par. This is hard to believe considering how bad the werewolf looks. Sadly, this is not a film like Brazil that had legendary production battles but turned out to be a great film. Instead, Cursed is lame, boring, and occasionally unintentionally funny.
The story is fairly basic. The movie starts with a requisite famous-person-getting-killed sequence. The viewers might remember this type of sequence involving Dew Barrymore in the far superior Scream. This time our “big star” is Shannon Elizabeth. She is coming home from a carnival or something when she is forced off the road by another car driven by Ellie(Christina Ricci). The reason why Ellie’s car swerved with her brother Jimmy (Jesse Eisenberg) inside it is because they hit some kind of animal. Ellie and Jimmy go down in the woods to help the overturned car, but are scratched when a large wolf carries Elizabeth away and eats her.
Soon after that strange things start happening to the two of them. Jimmy becomes stronger and more confident which allows him to fight the requisite school bully and win the girl of his dreams. Think Teen Wolf but change basketball to wrestling. Meanwhile, Ellie begins reacting strangely too, especially at her job. Just to see how old this movie is notice she works for The Craig Kilburn Show. The only problem with that is that show has been cancelled for a while. These strange reactions also cause trouble between her and her boyfriend Jack(Joshua Jackson).
As these changes get worse the two realize that the only way to stop the curse is to kill the werewolf that started it all. The movie would like to think this is providing an engaging mystery. The only problem is that there are only about three suspects, and if anyone is surprised by who the head werewolf turns out to be then they obviously haven’t seen many mysteries before. Everything is telegraphed way in advance.
The biggest problem with the movie though is the fact that it isn’t scary or thrilling or exciting or really anything. I’m not sure how this movie can be described as a horror film as there isn’t a lot of horror in it. Most of the film is taken up be characters talking meaningfully about relationships and whatnot. This type of quality also ran through Scream. The only problem is the characters in Scream were interesting and well-rounded. For a horror film, Sydney was a very three-dimensional character. Here though we have characters that are not only barely developed, but are as dull as dishwater. Before this film was released it was described in some interviews as a character driven horror film. That was a major mistake. Character driven horror films are great, but not when your characters are these.
Then comes the acting which is another major problem with this movie. Everybody seems completely lost at sea. Christina Ricci, who is normally so trust-worthy in films, struggles here giving a very awkward performance. It’s even worse when she tries to connect with the dull Joshua Jackson. Neither of them have any chemistry at all. As far as Eisenberg goes much like the rest of the cast he doesn’t really make any kind of blip on the screen.
One can only think that this is the last nail in screenwriter’s Kevin Williamson’s coffin. He wrote the excellent Scream but has floundered in film since. Cursed certainly does nothing to help his reputation.
Also, if one was wondering whether the werewolf effects were decent that is a resounding no. There are only two types in here. The really crappy CGI werewolf and the werewolf costume that looks lame to put it bluntly. One can clearly see the werewolf costume in the parking lot scene early in the film. Why they would want to fully show something that silly that early who knows. In the end, nothing can really save this film. They had a good idea. It just went very very wrong.

2/10

[KcMsterpce]

Originally posted by bob
I don't get all the hubbub about the rating. If a movie sucks as a PG-13, it's still gonna suck as an R.

Are some splattered intestines so important that they're going to improve the actual quality of the film, or is it a matter of principle?

Blood and gore can increase the entertainment level of a film for me tremendously. A movie can be total crap, but if the killings/gore are imaginative, it's at least capable of inducing a degree of entertainment for me that isn't possible without it.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by KcMsterpce
Blood and gore can increase the entertainment level of a film for me tremendously. A movie can be total crap, but if the killings/gore are imaginative, it's at least capable of inducing a degree of entertainment for me that isn't possible without it.

Exactly. Very well-said. For example, I recently rented The Pool (Arrow has reviewed it). I was in the mood for a brainless slasher flick with gore and T&A. The acting and writing were absolutely atrocious. But the kills were pretty cool and made the movie watchable and somewhat entertaining. Without them, it would have been painful and I never could have watched the entire movie. Sometimes the rating is everything.

[chinton]

Also look at American Werewolf In London. The few times we see t he werewolf suit its not the most amazing thing in the world but what makes the horror parts fearsome in the film a side from sly direction is the gore. All the werewolf deaths are actually quite gruesome and intense which make the werewolf all the more threatning.

[Moviefan02000]

I really liked Cursed. I didn't expect much from it, with recent terrible "horror" films like The Grudge, Hide and Seek, and Boogyman, I somewhat expected this to be bad because they cut it. Well, I was wrong. It was a really fun time, my friends and I all enjoyed it.

8/10 (B+) --- #3 of the year

[NightStalkerGtx]

okay this movie did not look like shit from the trailer.
I went in with a good smile in my face and came out with a great smile.
what was so bad about this movie?
the effects? no not really the were wolf looked cartoonish but damn it was awsome looking.
the acting? bull shit how do u want them to act? do u want them to srick a finger in there pants and finger themselves?
well anyways i enjoyed it
8/10

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
what was so bad about this movie?
the effects? no not really the were wolf looked cartoonish but damn it was awsome looking.
the acting? bull shit how do u want them to act? do u want them to srick a finger in there pants and finger themselves?

We must have seen different versions. In the one I saw, everything sucked, or worse. The effects are a joke. I've seen more convincing special effects in made-for-TV movies with 1/100th the budget of Cursed. The CGI transformation was painfully funny and ridiculously awful at the same time. I would be ashamed if that was my work. The practical effects were no better. One of the worst werewolves to ever grace the big screen. Easily. As for the acting, it's even worse than the effects. Did you see Ricci and Jackson's half-assed delivery of those horrible lines? I can't really blame them. The writing is atrocious and both looked like they didn't give a fuck. They looked bored and like they wanted desperately to be somewhere else.

[NightStalkerGtx]

Originally posted by

MadsenOMC
We must have seen different versions. In the one I saw, everything sucked, or worse. The effects are a joke. I've seen more convincing special effects in made-for-TV movies with 1/100th the budget of Cursed. The CGI transformation was painfully funny and ridiculously awful at the same time. I would be ashamed if that was my work. The practical effects were no better. One of the worst werewolves to ever grace the big screen. Easily. As for the acting, it's even worse than the effects. Did you see Ricci and Jackson's half-assed delivery of those horrible lines? I can't really blame them. The writing is atrocious and both looked like they didn't give a fuck. They looked bored and like they wanted desperately to be somewhere else





Let me start of by saying i respect ur thought on Cursed. I did say the werewolf looks castoonish and for some reason i really liked the special effects the only really fake scene was when it was hoping the cars on the mya scene when it started hoping the cars it got really blury but the was only 2 seconds long. As for the acting i didnt see anything wrong with it maybe when i see it again i will, but hey i enjoyed it so my rating stays the same.
8/10
p.s
i saw this with 3 of my best friends and they enjoyed it as well the lowest grade one of em gave it was a 7.5/10, but i still respect ur thought.I also cant wait to see the unrated cut on dvd

[chinton]

what was wrong:


what about the bad werewolf effects?
what about the snooze of a relationship between Ricci and Jackson?
what about the unimpressive acting?
what about the non-thrills?

[NightStalkerGtx]

Originally posted by chinton
what about the bad werewolf effects?
what about the snooze of a relationship between Ricci and Jackson?
what about the unimpressive acting?
what about the non-thrills?



I just said the were wolfs look cartoonish and maybe u should''ve searched for a pic online of it cuz i did so i knew what to expect and i had a fun time at the movies. the relationship? u just got attacked by a werewolf ur not going to be all up on ur sisters ass saying i love u.
jesus the movie was fine and i had a fun time at the movies.
Im not going to say i didnt when i did. Oh and its Pg-13 i wasnt expecting that much thrills but their there.

[chinton]

just to clarify ratings ahve nothing to do with thrills. I wouldnt have minded seeing some gore but ratings ahve nothing to do with how scary a movie is. sorry to be so harsh but you asked what was so bad about this movie and for me there was a lot.

[NightStalkerGtx]

Well there was enought gore for pg-13 (the beheading at the end)
and there were thrills maybe u just werent thrilled, but i wa i still respect ur thought on the movie but mine still stays the same.

[daddiefatsacks]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Exactly. Very well-said. For example, I recently rented The Pool (Arrow has reviewed it). I was in the mood for a brainless slasher flick with gore and T&A. The acting and writing were absolutely atrocious. But the kills were pretty cool and made the movie watchable and somewhat entertaining. Without them, it would have been painful and I never could have watched the entire movie. Sometimes the rating is everything.

its unfortunate that you had to witness the pg-13 version, cause honestly without the gore and killings, i don't think i could have given the movie as high of a rating as i did. The gore is probably the best part out of the movie, other than the werewolf giving the finger

lol

[Criminal Rock]

Dear lord, if I have to here that gay-ass, piece of shit theme song one more time while I clean, I swear I’ll drill a hole in my head with an electric screw driver.

horrible horrible movie... Hollywood sucks

[deppjolieperabo]

Originally posted by daddiefatsacks
The gore is probably the best part out of the movie, other than the werewolf giving the finger

wtf??! a CG wolf gave the finger?? or one of the actors when they were turning?

[daddiefatsacks]

Originally posted by deppjolieperabo
wtf??! a CG wolf gave the finger?? or one of the actors when they were turning?

the wolf was at some points a cgi wolf and at this particular point, a man in costume wolf

[deppjolieperabo]

oh.... :/

my sister saw it and said it was horrible. I kinda figured that.. so i might rent the dvd someday..

[Moviefan02000]

I don't understand the hate towards this film, sure, it was supposed to be rated R, and in some scenes you can tell that, but most horror buffs should enjoy it. It's a really fun little flick with a couple good performances by a hot little cast. Cursed is one of the best horror films I've seen in a long time (not like thats saying much though ;)). I'd definetely recommend this one to a lot of people, at the end of the day, it's not an amazing movie, but it's a fun one.

[bdubprod]

the film was aweful...a complete pile of dog shit.



and the wolf giving the finger was without a doubt the cheesiest, dumbest and worst part of the film.

[ilovemovies]

SPOILERS!



Question: I thought Judy Greer's character is the one who killed Shannon Elizabeth and the other girl. But Joshua Jackson's character says he's the one who turned Christina Ricci and Jesse Eisenberg's characters into warewolves. Which one is it?



As for what I thought of the movie: my biggest gripe with the movie is the missed opportunity. This movie had so much promise and could have been so much better than it was. I'm sure alot of this has to do with the movie's difficult production. But as it is, the movie felt too rushed. It should have been more developed. Still, I was never bored. And there are some scenes that are alot of fun. Apart from Judy Greer and Portia de Rossi, both of whom are howlingly (pun intended :D ) bad, the acting is largely adequate. And Greer's warewolf transformation, though not remotely scary, is nevertheless pretty cool albiet incredibly cheesy.

** 1/2 (out of ****)

[Badbird]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
SPOILERS!


Question: I thought Judy Greer's character is the one who killed Shannon Elizabeth and the other girl. But Joshua Jackson's character says he's the one who turned Christina Ricci and Jesse Eisenberg's characters into warewolves. Which one is it?


He was the original one. The woman did the killings at first and infected Ricci, but it traced back to Jacksons' character bloodline, since he was born a werewolf.

I have five words for this movie:

Sofa
King
We
Todd
Ed.

It just looked cheap. Every single character was annoying as hell. Craig Kilborn's show isn't even on anymore (shows how long it sat on the shelf). And what the fuck was the point of Scott Baio? He's there for like, two scenes. The interview was pointless.

(On a side note, I actually met Baio a couple years ago at a film fest we hosted. He's actually pretty shy in real life, not like he is in the movie where he's a pseudo jerk, kinda. Just thought it was funny from my point of view.)

And things that only happen in movies happened a lot here. For instance, on one floor of a building is a huge, crowded party with lots of noise and people. Someone leaves and goes to a parking garage in the same building that is completely empty... perfect for a horror sequence!

The irritating little brother wakes up naked in the bushes outside his house and no one seems to think this very odd. He isn't even concerned beyond a few sentences.

Nightclubs like Tinsel exist only in movies. (Anyone see Freddy Krugar in the background? Har-de-har-har!) Is it really a red carpet event when one opens? Is Hollywood that boring? And how is it that for such a high security event, people seem to be able to sneak in at will? And after the building is evacuated, the four or five most necessery characters just happened to stay locked inside?

And what exactly did Joshua Jackson's character do? Why did everyone know him? Who cares?

Too much of the movie was spent explaining werewolves. Yeah, we know how this shit works, and since none of the characters believed it anyway, why dwell on it so much?

Oh yeah, the high school scenes were fucking stupid too. Did anyone who makes movies actually go to high school? They don't show it.

The werewolf FX looked pretty decent for the most part. Better than the lame were-cats in Underworld. The CGI looked especially good to me - light years better than AMerican Werewolf in Paris, though not nearly as good as Van Helsing.

And a lot of people had a hard time believing in werewolves, eventhough the werewolves here were the most reckless, cavalier werewolves ever. Surely a security camera would catch them once or twice.

And why did that woman at the end spend so much time trying to kill Ricci as a human instead of a werewolf. She was obviously having a hard time - why not transform and be done with it?

And how does a dead werewolf die lying on its back only to transform back to a human body lying curled up on its side? Cause you can't show cootchie in PG13.

Not even an NC 17 could have saved this train wreck, let alone an R. A rating isn't going to make the story suddenly not dumb.

On an unrelated note, did anyone notice the subliminal pentagram in the LA city nightlights? I thought that was cool.

[BloodyBoi]

ITA Badbird. While I didn't think it was the flaming pile of dogshit most thought it was, it was nowhere near the best horror had to offer. It was just kind of meh for me.

Utterly ridiculous, lame acting, even lamer CGI, but when I walked out, I didn't spend the next 3 days lamenting why I wasted my money on it like I have other "horror" films recently. It had some okay parts but most was just ridiculous. (Like how Shannon Elizabeth's character spends about 10 minutes rolling down the hill in her car, yet Ellie and Jimmy crawl down a small embankment and get there in about 30 seconds.)

And yeah, it all looked mighty cheap. I swear those opening credits were over in like 40 seconds, the fastest credits ever. Don't know why but I found that odd. Also don't know why Scott Baio and Lance Bass ended up in the film but I am glad Freddie Prinze Jr.'s cameo was cut, since we had enough cheese with the actors cast as is. I'm usually a fan of Christina Ricci and I like Joshua Jackson but could their scenes have been any lamer?

Jesse Eisenberg annoyed me but he did look kinda cute when he straightened his hair in the climax. Don't know what the hell the point of that was about though. Also, I never watched Gilmore Girls but Milo Ventimiglia was pretty damn hot in the film.

Oh, and I've read the differences between the R and the PG-13 rated versions and I'm positive I got the PG-13 version, since it had absolutely no gore and there sure as hell was no blood spewing from the bed. So not all of us Canadians got the R-rated one, maybe just the folks from Ontario.

Well I'm sure hoping The Ring 2 will reverse the trend of awful horror movies when it opens tomorrow.

[GoldenGhost]

Originally posted by BloodyBoi
...and there sure as hell was no blood spewing from the bed.



:rolleyes: ...I'm sure this started off in the horror boards. Blood doesn't "spew" from the bed, some schmoe stated that blood erupts from Joshua Jackson's characters neck similar to the blood from the bed in A Nightmare on Elm Street.

:)

[BloodyBoi]

Originally posted by GoldenGhost
Blood doesn't "spew" from the bed, some schmoe stated that blood erupts from Joshua Jackson's characters neck similar to the blood from the bed in A Nightmare on Elm Street.

Oops sorry, my bad. That would've been sweet to see though. All I know is the version I saw here in Vancouver was pretty bloodless, and nothing that would've made the film an R-rated one. But like others have said, if any film needed gore, this film was it.

[Badbird]

Originally posted by BloodyBoi

And yeah, it all looked mighty cheap. I swear those opening credits were over in like 40 seconds, the fastest credits ever. Don't know why but I found that odd.

I felt that way about the whole movie. It was like they cut out every single second the possibly could while still having a (somewhat) coherent movie. Everything just felt too fast and choppy.

Just had to get that running time down, you know, because people are stupid and have short attention spans, so you can't have anything slow or last longer than 100 minutes... at least that's what the studios think.