View Full Version : Which ending do you think is the best..Seven's or Saw's? (SPOILER SORTA)
mr vincent vega
02-23-2005, 06:12 PM
I've just seen SAW and was blown away with the ending and alot of the movie reminded me Seven and the way it ended was a jaw opener. I think SAW is better due to fact that I think no one saw what was going to happen when the BODY started to get up. Plus it left a huge opening for a second movie which could very possibly be better the the 1st movie, unlike Seven.
ilovemovies
02-23-2005, 06:14 PM
Se7en is SOOOO much better than Saw.
Saw is a decent flick but I didn't care for the ending.
Se7en is a masterpiece with the kind of powerful ending that really stays with you long after the movie has ended.
No contest.
Scarface98.9
02-23-2005, 06:19 PM
Even though I feel Se7en's ending was contrived and different for the sake of being different, it was still better than Saw's. Overall movie was better to
outsyder
02-23-2005, 06:34 PM
Se7en's ending has much more meaning to the plot. SAW's ending was a good twist, but there wasn't anything special about it.
Patrick Bateman
02-23-2005, 06:46 PM
I like SAW's ending, but Se7en clearly had the better ending.
Se7en.
KTJ2004
02-23-2005, 07:04 PM
Both had really great, shocking endings, but the ending is only as good as the plot, and Se7en is all around better than Saw, even though I liked Saw very much.
KcMsterpce
02-23-2005, 07:10 PM
I consider SAW's ending to be a big gimmick. Almost everything relied on giving us a surprise. (I liked it, though)
Story wise it's weak, the acting is pretty horrendous, but it was a fun time.
SEVEN blew me away not only with the ending - which is the icing on the cake - but what came before that final reel was engrossing and fantastic in more ways than SAW can attempt to accomplish..
jaw2929
02-23-2005, 07:10 PM
Se7en's ending was much more cohesive to the entire story, and what Mr. Spacey was trying to accomplish... It worked on all levels, and completed this awesome masterpiece... SAW's was good, but not great like Se7en's was :)
Jerichoke
02-23-2005, 07:15 PM
Seven has such a better ending. Personally i couldn't take it serious after the ridiculous acting that had just happened.
Kidsilk
02-23-2005, 07:20 PM
If you go just by the ending, then I have to lean towards Saw. Based on the overall movie, it goes the other way.
Katsumoto
02-23-2005, 07:22 PM
Everything About SE7EN: AMAZING
Everything About SAW: CRAP
Squid Vicious
02-23-2005, 07:48 PM
I laughed at the ending of Saw. It was great comedy. But the ending of Seven was pretty gut-wrenching.
bigred760
02-23-2005, 08:35 PM
Although both endings are kickass and didn't see either of them coming, I gotta go with Se7en's ending being the better. Saw's you could feel something was coming, but with Se7en, it just comes at you like that :eek:.
Plus, Se7en is a better movie overall.
Lord Nikon
02-23-2005, 08:57 PM
Listen, I loved Se7en, hell check under my avatar to see how much I love it. But the ending to Se7en is definately the most OVER RATED ending of all time. Every time I watch the ending when Morgan Freeman starts saying "He is in control" and starts sounding like a girl I just smack my face. God that ending could have been AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN a lot better for that great movie. SAW while not as good a movie had a better "twist" ending. Se7en 9/10 SAW 7.5/10.
Shockwave
02-23-2005, 09:34 PM
SE7EN.
Not even close to being a contest.
Raging Bull080
02-24-2005, 03:01 AM
Seven is a great movie and I love the ending, Saw is terrible. Truly shit!
Tuukka
02-24-2005, 03:32 AM
Seven.
Saw has a cool ending. I really liked it. But the ending is a gimmick, it's a suprise twist for the sake of a suprise twist. It doesn't really change the story or the meaning of the story in any way.
Seven's ending is an intergral part of the story and theme. And it's not even a "suprise twist" per se. What matters is the emotional impact. In Seven it doesn't matter if you see the "twist" coming or not, because it's not about the suprise, it's about the emotion of the scene.
A definition of a good ending is that you don't see it coming, but once it comes you realize that it's the only ending that would have fit the story. Seven achieves this, while Saw's ending is just a gimmick, even if it's a cool gimmick.
Cronos
02-24-2005, 07:21 AM
at the moment id have to say i liked Saws ending more, much more surprising than Sevens
although i havent seen Seven for a long time
mshulman5
02-24-2005, 12:08 PM
Definitely Se7en although I do love Saw as well. Seven's ending however was a long build-up that ended perfectly. Saw had a good ending as well, but it wasn't really built up, that is they could have ended it that way regardless of the build-up.
Se7en 10/10
Saw 9/10
Spacey_Norton21
02-24-2005, 12:23 PM
Se7en
C'mon its a classic, I liked Saw until the last line
As soon as that fat guy said "Game Over" It lost alot of its coolness factor..
Se7en Ending: 100/10
Saw ending: 6/10
Se7en (actual film): 10/10
Saw (actual Film): 7/10 (im being gracious)
Lord Nikon
02-24-2005, 12:30 PM
Can someone explain to me how Se7en's ending was good?
JumpinJackFlash
02-24-2005, 02:05 PM
i think the ending to Se7en is much better than Saw's and i also think Se7en is a much better movie.
when Saw ended, it just felt like the filmmaker's tacked the ending on A) because it was surprising and maybe they figured that would excite people and B) because it was an easy way to leave room for a sequel (which i guess is what is happening). however, it had nothing to do with the story at all and as i was watching it, i realized that we went through this whole movie and didnt learn anything about the real killer, and who we thought the real killer was, ended up to be no one. so we learned nothing about the killer, who is really the person i like to know about in these kinds of movies (to me, they always seem to be the most interesting).
the ending of Se7en is the exact opposite, it had everything to do with the story and not only that, because the characters are well-written and we understand Doe's motivations, the conclusion has a great underlying emotional core, which is what the audience really can respond to. this ending sticks with you, not so much because it is surprising but because its gut and hear-wrenching when we realize what the decision Mills is left with is, we know how hard it must be to make it.
SpacePuppet
02-24-2005, 02:45 PM
Se7ens ending was awesome, Saw's ending was stupid.
Se7en: (8/10)
Saw: (4/10)
Lord Nikon
02-24-2005, 04:23 PM
How does SAW's ending not fit within the movie? HE LIKES TO WATCH HIS VICTIMS!!! Could he get a better seat than in the room with them! It fits perfectly.
mshulman5
02-24-2005, 05:06 PM
If a majority seem to think that the ending for Se7en was good then maybe you should explain why it wasn't as opposed to asking us to explain why it was??
Shockwave
02-24-2005, 06:53 PM
How does SAW's ending not fit within the movie? HE LIKES TO WATCH HIS VICTIMS!!! Could he get a better seat than in the room with them! It fits perfectly.
It fits TOO well. The second they said that i guessed who the killer was. Not his true identity, but that was he was the guy in the middle of all the action.
Lord Nikon
02-24-2005, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by mshulman5
If a majority seem to think that the ending for Se7en was good then maybe you should explain why it wasn't as opposed to asking us to explain why it was??
I am not saying that it WASEN'T good, I am saying it isn't one of the best endings of all time, like most other people say. I think it is a solid ending, but nothing spectacular. Just listen to how Morgan Freeman starts talking. When he says "he is in control" he just sounds like such a little girl. If they could have somehow got those last 2 sins out of the way without using her head being cut off than maybe it woulda been great. Also when you say you GUESSED who the killer was in SAW, maybe you did, but I would say 95% of the people won't. I have watched the movie 3 times, with a total of about 10 other people, and no one has guessed the ending. Sure the ending was kinda out of the blue, and you could say was "forced" but I really think it was just clever.
brodeurnumber1
02-24-2005, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Lord Nikon
I am not saying that it WASEN'T good, I am saying it isn't one of the best endings of all time, like most other people say. I think it is a solid ending, but nothing spectacular. Just listen to how Morgan Freeman starts talking. When he says "he is in control" he just sounds like such a little girl. If they could have somehow got those last 2 sins out of the way without using her head being cut off than maybe it woulda been great. Also when you say you GUESSED who the killer was in SAW, maybe you did, but I would say 95% of the people won't. I have watched the movie 3 times, with a total of about 10 other people, and no one has guessed the ending. Sure the ending was kinda out of the blue, and you could say was "forced" but I really think it was just clever.
Se7en wasn't supposed to be a "twist" ending. It was an ending that punched you hard emotionally. Just because you didn't see the ending coming in Saw doesn't mean it's a better ending than Se7en. Se7en has the much better ending because it sticks with you, Saw just makes you say I didn't see that coming and that's it.
mshulman5
02-24-2005, 11:05 PM
I like how the ending for Saw was done, but the point is that 95% percent of the people didn't know who the killer was because he only got 5 seconds of screen time during the entire movie in which you barely saw his face. I liked the fact that it was the guy in the room with them, and sure once you know who it is it makes sense why. Saw just didn't ever give you a chance to figure it out.
Lord Nikon
02-25-2005, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by brodeurnumber1
Se7en has the much better ending because it sticks with you, Saw just makes you say I didn't see that coming and that's it.
First of all I think SAW's ending will stick just as much. The reason people might forget about SAW before Se7en is because Se7en in general was a better movie...I'm not arguing that. But SAW's ending to me was still better than Se7en's. I just couldn't get into that ending at all. Whenever I see Morgan Freeman acting out those last 5-10 mins of the movie when he receives the box I always say to myself, God he should stick to voice overs...and I love Morgan Freeman.
Originally posted by mshulman5
ISaw just didn't ever give you a chance to figure it out.
SAW DID GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO FIGURE IT OUT. Go back and watch it again. There are many hints the WHOLE MOVIE, you just didn't pick up on them. That is why it is so brilliant.
Shockwave
02-25-2005, 05:37 PM
SAW DID GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO FIGURE IT OUT. Go back and watch it again. There are many hints the WHOLE MOVIE, you just didn't pick up on them. That is why it is so brilliant.
My problem was that when it DID reveal the villian, i didnt even care.
Oh no! Its the guy the showed for 5 seconds earlier in the movie that didnt matter in the least bit! OMG!
-Sarcasm off-
It wasnt a bad way to end, but it wasnt really a twist or a shock. It just was.
I remember when it revealed the killers in Scream 2 i thought the same thing.
TheSharpshooter
02-25-2005, 09:09 PM
Since were just talking endings I have to go with Saw. I love Se7en's ending as well, but the ending to Saw was spectacular. Not just the twist, but the song (The Requiem For A Dream song) and the "Game Over" Line. The ending alone is enough reason to watch this movie.
Lord Nikon
02-25-2005, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by TheSharpshooter
Since were just talking endings I have to go with Saw. I love Se7en's ending as well, but the ending to Saw was spectacular. Not just the twist, but the song (The Requiem For A Dream song) and the "Game Over" Line. The ending alone is enough reason to watch this movie.
Well lets not go overboard, I'll defend SAW, but defending the closing line, Game Over...that I don't think I can do. It was pretty cheesy.
Slim_JGE
02-27-2005, 09:22 AM
For me, Se7en by far. Which was just all around the better movie, not just the ending... :D
MrScissorhands
02-27-2005, 09:41 AM
Seven is probably my favorite movie of all time. I really liked Saw, especially the ending. Saw's ending really blew me away when I saw it, more than Seven's ending ever did. However, I think in the long run Saw's (surprise-) ending won't remain as great as it was the first time, while Seven's (directorial masterpiece) ending stays as brilliant every time I see it.
Joshmo
02-27-2005, 10:16 AM
Saw's ending is as big a gimmick as the dvd itself looking like a saw blade... To even try and compare Saw to Seven is motion picture heresy.
Seven: 9/10
Saw: ZERO... catch me in a good mood and I MIGHT give it a 1/10 for making the dvd look like a saw blade.
Stupid ass movie.
Sandstone
02-27-2005, 12:53 PM
Seven, no contest
TheSharpshooter
02-27-2005, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Lord Nikon
Well lets not go overboard, I'll defend SAW, but defending the closing line, Game Over...that I don't think I can do. It was pretty cheesy.
In other movies it may have been a cheesy line but with his deep, raspy voice is was great. The biggest point I was trying to make, which I didnt, was the song. It was perfect. The line was just a part of it which I liked as well.
GoldenGhost
02-27-2005, 07:24 PM
Silly questions.
Seven. The whole build up, the arrest, the conversation in the police car, the slowly unfolding tension, the understanding of the box and its contents, the envy. It was merely perfection.
Saw. Ha, the killers that geeky Alan Cumming look-alike chap. Hmph. Oh, no it's not. It's the supposedly dead bloke on the floor who hasn't twitched to itch his nose for a day or so. Ya got me there! Cheeky monkey. "Game over" ...pish off.
TheSharpshooter
02-27-2005, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by GoldenGhost
It's the supposedly dead bloke on the floor who hasn't twitched to itch his nose for a day or so.
They were only in there awake for about 8 hours.
TheDeadWalk
02-27-2005, 09:54 PM
Both are good films, I would say that Seven is indeed a better overall film, but Saw's ending was very explosive to me.
I also thought it was a much darker ending than Seven, and left more of an impact.
Seven's was original and unique, but not anything I'd shit my pants over.
rufio
02-28-2005, 04:51 PM
i liked both movies very much and although SAW's ending was a huge twist that i loved, i think Se7en takes it. Se7en's ending had so much more emotion and it's actually probably my favorite ending in a movie.
brodeurnumber1
02-28-2005, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
Both are good films, I would say that Seven is indeed a better overall film, but Saw's ending was very explosive to me.
I also thought it was a much darker ending than Seven, and left more of an impact.
Seven's was original and unique, but not anything I'd shit my pants over.
Darker ending than Se7en? I wouldn't say that. I mean a guy with a cut off foot that will most likely die in the middle of nowhere from bloodloss and a guy stuck in a room with complete darkness and nowhere near a light is dark. But, I still would say an ending where a man's pregnant wife's head is found in a box and she and the baby are murdered is a bit darker.
GoldenGhost
02-28-2005, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by TheSharpshooter
They were only in there awake for about 8 hours.
Still a long time to lie in a pool of blood, face down playing dead.
Question (including spoilers)
Who opened the door to get out of that room again? Was it the nerd who was forced to do the killer's dirty work, or was it the killer himself?
Lord Nikon
02-28-2005, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by GoldenGhost
Still a long time to lie in a pool of blood, face down playing dead.
Question (including spoilers)
Who opened the door to get out of that room again? Was it the nerd who was forced to do the killer's dirty work, or was it the killer himself?
1. He could have used that paralyzing substance he used to on people to stay still. The liquid doesn't do any harm other than temporarily paralyze you. Remember he used it on the guy who is in between the two drills and says "Oh your moving, I guess it wore off already" or something to that affect. So that could answer your question on that point.
2. The nerd opened the door when he came running in to kill the doctor.
martyds761
03-01-2005, 09:32 PM
I loved Se7en... But it didn't effect me at all...
Saw, when he moved, I was blown away. I loved it too. I like the message in Saw as well. I'll go with Saw.
TheDeadWalk
03-01-2005, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by brodeurnumber1
Darker ending than Se7en? I wouldn't say that. I mean a guy with a cut off foot that will most likely die in the middle of nowhere from bloodloss and a guy stuck in a room with complete darkness and nowhere near a light is dark. But, I still would say an ending where a man's pregnant wife's head is found in a box and she and the baby are murdered is a bit darker.
Nah, I'll still take Saw.
Being left behind screaming bloody murder in the dark after the killer rises from his position was dark and sadistic, and I liked it.
I don't think of Se7en's ending that way. When I think of Seven's ending, I think of Brad Pitt in the back of a police cruiser looking meek, and good old Morgan "Get busy livin or get busy dyin" Freeman looking on in his calm, proverbial way. Not dark, not sadistic, not to me.
ChemicalRomance
03-01-2005, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Lord Nikon
1. He could have used that paralyzing substance he used to on people to stay still. The liquid doesn't do any harm other than temporarily paralyze you. Remember he used it on the guy who is in between the two drills and says "Oh your moving, I guess it wore off already" or something to that affect. So that could answer your question on that point.
I'm sorry, but your point here is way off.
Even if he did use the paralyzing substance, which is unlikely, he must have some good timing with it to magically get right up when Adam begins listening to the tape and after all the characters are dead/gone and the movie is ready to end. I'd paralyze myself to get outta boring situation, but just gimmie the magic stuff so I can come right back when it matters!
morricone
03-02-2005, 02:33 PM
Saw's ending was fucking dumb. Seven had a good ending and I'd take it over Saw any day.
TheDeadWalk
03-02-2005, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by ChemicalRomance
I'm sorry, but your point here is way off.
Even if he did use the paralyzing substance, which is unlikely, he must have some good timing with it to magically get right up when Adam begins listening to the tape and after all the characters are dead/gone and the movie is ready to end. I'd paralyze myself to get outta boring situation, but just gimmie the magic stuff so I can come right back when it matters!
He was testing the timing of the paralyzing tranquilizer on his test subject as we were shown...
Maybe the last 10 minutes the effects could have been wearing off and he didn't want to get up because he was interested in watching Adam see the true reality of the situation so he could enjoy watching someone's face as they found out the truth. When he saw enough, maybe that's when he got up.
I don't think the point is way off at all. They didn't have time to explain every detail, just like most movies that give you a snippet and allow you to put the pieces together yourself.
For Saw, it seems like you have to learn how to sew.
ChemicalRomance
03-02-2005, 10:19 PM
That's a possibility but I thought he was implying that the medication wore off right when he needed it to, which would be in fact, way off.
Lord Nikon
03-02-2005, 10:39 PM
I was implying the medicine wore off at some point. Hell he KNEW when the game was supposed to end did he not? He knew it was supposed to end around 6. So he could have easily given himself enough tranquelizer for however many hours, and make sure it wore off slightly before 6. If the game isnt over he stays still for 10 minutes. That doesnt sound plausible?
shawn-o
03-04-2005, 04:55 PM
I thought Saw had the better ending by far. It was the creepiest, darkiest and in my opinion the coolest. I really was not too impressed by the ending of Se7en
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