People busting on Foxx and his grandmother refrences

[Moviefan1234]

I'm getting really sick and tired of people talking about Jamie Foxx and how he keeps mentioning his recently deceased grandmother. Do these people forget how it feels to lose someone who raised you and taught you to be the person you are? I find it pretty distasteful and extremely disrespectful to throw out comments about how it seems fake. When you lose someone like that, it hurts. Let me tell you, it's not something you get over in a matter of weeks, months, or sometimes even years. Try to show some fucking respect.

[Twisted Sister]

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
I'm getting really sick and tired of people talking about Jamie Foxx and how he keeps mentioning his recently deceased grandmother. Do these people forget how it feels to lose someone who raised you and taught you to be the person you are? I find it pretty distasteful and extremely disrespectful to throw out comments about how it seems fake. When you lose someone like that, it hurts. Let me tell you, it's not something you get over in a matter of weeks, months, or sometimes even years. Try to show some fucking respect.

Agreed. For me, Foxx's comments about his grandmother have been the only captivating moments of this year's awards shows. His speeches have seemed authentic. People who slam him for it need to look in a mirror.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

It's pretty much being said by people who are bitter that their guy didn't win. It's sad really.

[miguel_montes]

I agree. This guy made the best speech of the night.

[KTJ2004]

All I know is that if my grandmother inspired me and she passed away, I would sure as hell be talking about her a lot. He did have one of the best, if not the best, speeches of the night.

[ComeNightfall]

People who slam Foxx just want to be cynical and bitter to look cool. Because actually saying something positive would be being a pansy, which I posted in the thread over at General Movie Talk. These people need to lighten up and get over it. All you hear about is how this celeb hates their family members. You have one that takes pride and he gets called fake. Stupid.

[Backstabba]

I was reading the comments in General movie talk, and thinking the same thing. Why would someone say hes a fake, and why would jamie foxx even be that "bastardly" and use his dead grandmother to "fake" a good speech.

It was a great speech.

....Natalie portman was robbed.

[jeo4]

Jamie Foxx did a great job on his film and on his Oscar speech. I understand that some people might not agree with this, but it's still my opinion. Nobody will change that.

[ChemicalRomance]

Agreed.

When he said "but now she talks to me..."

Then he put his head down.

"...in my dreams."

The way he said it gave me a little chill. Best speech of the night. Go Jamie.

[Lazy Boy]

Yeah, that was a great speech.

Did he get a standing ovation when he won? I think he did, but I'm not sure.

[C-Desecration-]

When he said "but now she talks to me..."

Then he put his head down.

"...in my dreams."


I didn't watch the oscars, see the speech, but I'm glad someone brought this up. There is something that doesn't quite ring true about these incredibly selfless speeches. To launch into some long "This is for you (tragic but heroic figure)!" always seems a bit off in such a crowded, impersonal area.
And to be so melodramatic about it too. I mean if this guy is really sad about his grandma that's fine, I shouldn't tell him to suck it up and stop that pussy crying, but really, you, you have to look at the psychology here. This is a personal feeling he's uncorking and spraying over millions of people--what's the reason? Just as someone approaching a crowd of strangers and recalling their tragic past "in hopes that you won't meet the same fate" is, generally, a far les heroic act than it sounds, it's all a little self-indulgent.

But it boils down to how you feel about the actor. I never exactly liked foxx, never had a strong disliking, but if this was, I don't know . . . cage or something, in a similar situation, I'd be all fluttering my eyes and saying how heartfelt and emotional and true it was.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by C-Desecration-

And to be so melodramatic about it too. I mean if this guy is really sad about his grandma that's fine, I shouldn't tell him to suck it up and stop that pussy crying, but really, you, you have to look at the psychology here. This is a personal feeling he's uncorking and spraying over millions of people--what's the reason? Just as someone approaching a crowd of strangers and recalling their tragic past "in hopes that you won't meet the same fate" is, generally, a far les heroic act than it sounds, it's all a little self-indulgent.



I do agree that we have to look at the psychology of the whole thing.

But you must compare, someone like yourself or I, telling a bunch of strangers about our tragic past, and a massive celebrity doing the same.

The celebrities have no private lives, and most have accepted that self-fullfilling prophecy. They see no harm in talking about their sadness over their deceased Grandmother. That and every other aspect of their lives is constantly being exposed. Its become a norm, a socially accepted behavior amongst them and those like their own.

[C-Desecration-]

They see no harm in talking about their sadness over their deceased Grandmother. That and every other aspect of their lives is constantly being exposed. Its become a norm, a socially accepted behavior amongst them and those like their own.


You're right. Can't compare the joe schmoe with a celebrity, not even as far as psychology goes.

[King of Depew]

Kay. His grandmother didn't die the night before the Oscars. She died like a month ago. Maybe you say, weeping like Connie Corleone at the end of Godfather: "You cold hearted bastard! His Grandma just died!!"
I understand.

But do you think it's a little stagey to say the least to go up there and say: "Here's the part where I cry" and get us all "ready" for this big emotional zenith? Yeah, and the measured "head bow" and everything, it didn't even seem spontaneous, it looked like he fucking rehearsed it for a month. I for one would have more respect for my Grandma and furthermore more SELF respect than to go up there and fake cry or fall apart like a blubbering mess for everyone to see. Get ahold of yourself for Christ's sake. I could see if this happened like an hour before the Oscars started, but she's been dead for a while now. (I like how he magically recovers too, when the "crying part" is over. He's right back to normal and no tears whatsoever.)

I'm sorry, I myself am an actor and that perfomance got one star. What a phony, why do you think so many people aren't buying it, because it was bullshit. Anna Nicole Smith does a better job for Christ's sake.

[TheDeadWalk]

Could have been staged, could not have...

I just don't believe that we can really set a standard timeline for the grieving process. Sure, one hour is probably going to have a much more devastating effect onto someone, but just because there has been 'some time' inbetween the Academy Awards and her death, does not directly lighten the situation for every individual.

Some people never get over the death of loved ones, some people take a short greiving period and then move on with their lives. Some people use it to accelerate drama and emotion on purpose like you have thought. However, the point though is that everyone is different and reacts differenty to situations and personal tragedies.

[King of Depew]

Maybe, but tell me this, and don't be afraid to answer honestly: Didn't that look insincere to you? And keep in mind this is the Oscar, the guy is an actor. Forget about grieving and anything else, did that NOT look just a bit staged?

And did we really need to hear how she "whooped" him? Is that a necessary detail to share with 36 nations of the planet Earth? If you went up would you be that self indulgent to give every detail to us to empathize with your "tough" child hood, and uncomfortable details at that? I sure wouldn't. I don't know, what else can I say about this. You believe what you believe, I guess.

[TheDeadWalk]

I'm really on the fence about it. I can sway either way depending on the mood and amount of skepticism I put into it.

After talking psychology about the situation, I'm really more just thinking about the mental awareness states of many highly paid celebrities. I think they go by another state of logic, ethics, morals, and code of conduct on situations like this.

And as far as acting goes, an actor just usually "is", so there's also a chance that the phony looking Foxx, was just really.. Foxx.

I don't know. Tough call, I guess I could just feel better about myself by buying into the whole thing.

[ilovemovies]

It looked incredibly sincere to me. I was rooting for Leonardo Dicprio to win, but wasn't disappointed by Foxx's win. And his speech was easily one of the highlights of the show.

Jaime Foxx just comes off as a very cool person in his interviews as well.

[Adornado]

Agreed, Moviefan. His speech was great and it gave me chills.

[daddiefatsacks]

i jus can't believe Wanda won an Oscar

[B1rd_Po0p]

Originally posted by King of Depew
Kay. His grandmother didn't die the night before the Oscars. She died like a month ago.

Are you fucking kidding me?!? A month is about when the shock starts to wear off; realization sets in (You are never going to see this person again in this life) and the gut-wrenching grief really comes on! Get a fucking clue.

So the guy got up, won his award; and paid tribute to his grandmother who was obviously a huge influence in his life. Quit ripping on him for it and get on with your life. It's better than some ego-inflated jack-ass getting up there gushing for 34 minutes...

[bigred760]

The Golden Globes, Oprah (I think), Inside the Actors Studio, and now the Oscars - Jamie Foxx talked, and had a hard time doing it, about his grandmother and how she was his mentor, inspiration, and mother-figure. If he wants to acknowledge her, then he can go ahead and do it. He won the Oscar and believes she had a big part in it. I don't think it was staged and I believe he truly misses her. You go Jamie Foxx!!

[Jon Lyrik]

Well, Jamie Foxx is known in Hollywood for being a self-important fake, and like C-Des said, there's something about the speech that doesn't quite ring true. It seemed self-indulgent while trying to be like a selfless tribute to his grandmother.

[Mr. Fancy Pants]

I've mentioned this on another thread. There is a moment during his acceptance speech when he chokes up over his grandmother but then peeks out at the audience. You can interpret that little peek anyway you want ( I may be reading too much into it ) but please tell me you saw it.

Is that speech posted on the internet anywhere?

[The Postmaster General]

I'd rather just respect the fact his grandmother died than try and figure out who's right and wrong. http://www.folkart.com/bragdon/nate-nan.jpg http://www.pnl.gov/er_news/12_97/graphics/art2flow.jpg http://www.christianboardingschools.us/images/2.jpg

[jeo4]

Bubba, you've made me smile again. :cool:

[Mr. Fancy Pants]

And what if Natalie Portman got up there and said her grandfather used to beat her and threatened to cut her in half.

[Jas]

I liked his speech, I didn't think it was fake at all.
This wasn't like, his grandma that he visited from time to time, she's the woman who raised him.
And I know that King of Depew was banned (?) so he won't be reading this, but the whole "It was a month ago!" made me fucking sick.
Like after a month of losing someone, you go "Well, shit happens".
Douchebag...

[B1rd_Po0p]

Originally posted by Jas
I know that King of Depew was banned

Banned already eh? He must've shot his mouth off a lot then...

[lccfilmstudent]

Jamies speech really really touched me. Like Jamie I too lost someone really close to me not too long ago, my grandfather. He was also my mentor and a great part of my life. Its been 7 months sense he has passed away and i dont think im still over it. I think alot of people can relate to how Jamie feels, i mean when someone close to us passes away, dont we all feel that if we have a chance to say how important and how great that person was in our lives to millions of people, we would give them the respects they deserve? I have alot more respect for Jamie now than ever before. GO JAMIE!!

[Shockwave]

And what if Natalie Portman got up there and said her grandfather used to beat her and threatened to cut her in half.

I wouldnt be able to contain the laughter if that happed.:)

"Ill cut u!"

"..in half!"