Do you think any movie in 05 has a chance to beat titanic?

[NightStalkerGtx]

i doudt it but if any of them were to beat it an pass 600 mil it would prb be star wars 3 or war of the worlds
who do u think has a chance if not will come close?

[CyclicNightmare]

I really hope War of the Worlds takes it over. I think it has the best chance, but it is unlikely.

[ilovemovies]

I doubt it.

I suppose Revenge of the Sith has a slight chance. But since many people were disappointed with the previous two prequels (I'm not one of them) there is a good chance it won't.

I suppose War of the Worlds could. The only other movie I see at this point that might is Peter Jackson's King Kong. That has the chance of being really HUGE!

[Jon Lyrik]

My crazy prediction of 2005 is that War of the Worlds WILL do it. I mean, in each decade since his career took off, Spielberg has captured the world with a huge event movie.

In the 1970s, it was Jaws.

In the 1980s, it was E.T..

In the 1990s, it was Jurassic Park.

In the 2000s, it will be War of the Worlds.

[ilovemovies]

Those movies were huge. But not as huge as Titanic. And though I have no doubt that War of the Worlds will be huge, I don't think it will beat Titanic. I think it's going to be along time before a movie can catch up to Titanic.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

But since many people were disappointed with the previous two prequels (I'm not one of them) there is a good chance it won't.

That's just something the 'net bashers would have you believe. The majority of the fan base outside of the internet enjoyed the previous films highly.

That being said, ROTS most likely won't make much more than AOTC. I say $350 million tops.

WOTW...at the most it could go crazy and make $400 million. I don't see anything EVER matching or beating Titanic though. $600 million is quite a bit....

[NightStalkerGtx]

yea i think maybe war of the worlds can reach 500 mil.
I dont no why i predict so high i just smell alot of money when u put Tom C. and Steven S. in a flim together in the summer about aliens and its pg-13. Lots of kids will see lots of adluts it will be the next signs, but better because tom C. is a huge star and will bring in the dough. I no i will be the first in line to see it.

[TheDeadWalk]

I don't think Revenge of the Sith or War of the Worlds will do it.

War will undoubtedly do great though, but I feel that there is a strong enough base of folks who just don't get into the sci-fi genre, so it will most likely have to be up to people who re-watch the film over and over again. Only if the film has an amazing replay value do I think it has a chance.

Sith... no. Never. Not the sixth Star Wars film. (Yes I realize it's the "THIRD" but it's the sixth and final release of a star wars film.) Star Wars fans will be hitting this all up I'm sure, and it too, will put up hefty numbers, but I don't believe it will be anything special for the ages.

[poopontheshoes7]

War is gonna be huge but I dont think it will beat Titanic. Sith might. It has the possibility. Star Wars is without a doubt, the most popular film in pop culture history. I think people are gonna be like. THE LAST FREAKIN STAR WARS MAN!!! WE GOTTA SEE IT!

[Skysaber]

As much as I love Star Wars, I can safely assume that Revenge of the Sith will NOT beat Titanic. War of the Worlds will come closer, I think, than RotS, but won't breat the Titanic record either. You have to understand, there were people that saw that movie every day for a full week because they loved it so much. Quite ridiculous.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Mr. Fred Krueger
That's just something the 'net bashers would have you believe. The majority of the fan base outside of the internet enjoyed the previous films highly.

I don't see anything EVER matching or beating Titanic though. $600 million is quite a bit....

a) Sure, but do people like the prequels as much as the originals? I'm not even talking net fanboys. It will make a lot, certainly, but few people will say they live to the originals, even people who really like the new movies.

b) It has to happen some day, certainly with inflation.

Those movies were huge. But not as huge as Titanic.

Look at ticket sales and how they affected pop culture in their days and even now, and they were all the highest grossing films of all time at one point. They were indeed the Titanic of their day, if not bigger.

[Lord Raiden]

I don't think anything will beat TITANIC in the near future. But due to inflation and jacking up ticket prices every few years, I'd say the record will fall within the next decade.

[Sigur509]

Nope. Would be cool to see War of the Worlds in top stot.

But it wont happen.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
a) Sure, but do people like the prequels as much as the originals? I'm not even talking net fanboys. It will make a lot, certainly, but few people will say they live to the originals, even people who really like the new movies.



Depends on who you talk to. I love them as much as the originals, and I think that once everyone watches the films in order, they'll enjoy them even more.

And they were never going to live up to the originals in many people's minds. However, there were still quite a few (ie net nerds) who set themselves up for disappointment expecting the greatest SW movie ever in the form of TPM.

But that's off topic.

Back on topic: Nothing this summer or any other summer will surpass Titanic. ;)

[SaintOfKillers]

Even LOTR:ROTK couldn't do it, so I think ROTS, WOTW and other King Kong's don't stand a chance.

To reach those numbers, a movie needs an enormous hype. And I just don't think that's going to happen with any of the 2005 movies.

[pyscho dude]

I bet sometime within the next 15 years a movie will beat Titanic. It's only a matter of time.

[gspawn]

[I know it's not the only factor but...]
I think that the top-grossing-ever movie list depends a lot more on the economy than most people are willing to factor for... imagine what Shrek 2 would have made if the US had been in a spending mood when it surfaced. Even if WotW or RotS sell like mad and everyone who can get to the movies does, the American leg of the movie's gross is still going to be hurting signifigantly, and that puts a big damper on a movie trying to push over the top.

Now, look back to what flick is sitting pretty in second place- Star Wars- and think about how much its gross would be worth if we factored in when it came out and scaled for inflation (minus the re-release, it's still a ton more money than the dollars reflect).

Titanic came out (if I'm not mistaken) during a time when the US was spending big all over the place, not to mention it had enough "chick-osity" going for it to draw more than the normal amount of femmes (Oprah gave that one a BIG nudge, I'm sure).

How do you beat a blockbuster that came out during a time when the US could give it a bigger push, which had a wider audience, and was supported by tons of daily-run shows with heavy purchasing influence?

....you probably don't.

[ChemicalRomance]

Nothings gonna beat TITANC (this year at least) is what I honestly think.

I mean, it has Leo DiCaprio so you get 98% of prepubscent girls to go check it out. You've got one of the worlds most famous and true disasters in history being captured on a high budget, and it just had a ton more going for it.

I don't thinkk WAR OF THE WORLDS will really come lose. Maybe...300 Million. Maybe.

[Tuukka]

The key to grossing 600 million is repeated viewings.

People went to see Titanic 3, 5, even 10 times. It made steady money from week to week.

Regardless of how good film WOTW is, I don't think that it will have that kind of repeat business. It's a dark and gritty alien invasion film. It's not a kind of film people fall head over heels in love with and see it again and again. It can gross 300 million, even 400 million, but that's the maximum.

ROTS and KK *might* get the repeat business to gross 600 million. I doubt it, but there is a possibility.

[Moviefan02000]

Why am I the only one that thinks The War of the Worlds won't be this big? I mean ... I dunno, I won't be surprised if it's huge, but I won't be surprised if it performs like A.I. either. Revenge of the Sith on the other hand, it's obvious it will be a big hit, but there is no way it'll make $600 or even $400 million for that matter.

[ilovemovies]

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the ONLY movie that may be able to match Titanic this year is King Kong. The only one.

[Jon Lyrik]

I don't think have King Kong has much of a chance either. It will be big, but most definitely it will be more frontloaded than ROTK was.

ROTS needs to be as good or better than the original trilogy. Lucas needs to work wonders there, but I don't think he'll pull it off.

gspawn, I strongly disagree. When Jaws, Star Wars and I think even E.T. were released, the economy was on the tumble due to post-Vietnam. Gone with the Wind was half-and-half, it opened during the Depression, but played well into the 40s when the economy spiked back up. So I do think the economy of the current time is fairly irrelevent to a movie being able to reach #1 on the All-Time charts.

[Moviefan02000]

It would be great if King Kong did it, it looks amazing and it has a great cast. But I doubt it.

[blankpage]

The only one I can see coming close is War of the Worlds...but even still...

[bigred760]

I think Titanic's record will hold for quite some time. The reason it made so much money is that people, especially teens and couples, kept going back to see it. My younger cousins saw it like 7 times in the theatre. While Revenge of the Sith and War of the Worlds will do great at the box office, they won't come close to $600 million - as much as I hate to say it.

I think that record will stand for a while, until ticket and concession prices exceed $20. :eek:

[Pulp_Joker]

Neither movie will beat Titanic. The key to it all is repeated viewings and the way that happens is if the movie is considered to be fantastic by people that saw it, and they tell their friends, and they tell other friends, and so on.
And IMO, another key is a successful economy. If stocks and jobs are thriving then people have the dough to go out and see movies over and over again.
One last ingredient I think may be the romance factor. It has to have a good romance to draw the ladies repeatedly and it can not have any sci-fi element to it. That will repel any teenage girls who are not into that stuff. But that's just one man's opinion.

[The Heart Collector]

Old women won't go see War Of The Worlds.

The key to making insane amoutns of money is that the film has to appeal to many people, including all moviegoers AND people who don't go to the movies.

[Sandstone]

NO

But i hope the best movie is Sin City followed very closely by WOTW

[longling]

yep, i hope the same thing, though i doubt they'll beat titanic!
and i agree that king kong has a shot at being really huge!! (but bigger than titanic.. i doubt it... unfortunately!)

[jeo4]

I'd like to believe that REVENGE OF THE SITH could bring in a record haul, being the final installment of the Star Wars series. But sadly, I doubt it.

[LordSimen]

Anyone else think that MAYBE if the cards are set right Batman Begins could possibly match up with WotW?

[EvilEd]

Revenge of the Sith - $386mil
War of the Worlds - $302mil
King Kong - $367mil
Batman Begins - $285mil

So, no. Nothings gonna take over Titanic anytime soon and if it does, it's likely not gonna be a franchise picture or a well known property. All of the biggest successes have been relatively unknown pictures or ones that weren't expected to do well (Star Wars, Titanic, Gone with the WInd, etc.)

[EDsoulsurvive*]

I highly doubt anything will top Titanic this year. Not to get really off topic but I don't think Batman Begins has a shot at passing 200 Million. It doesn't look mainstream enough.

[EvilEd]

Well given that it's Batman, one of the most popular fictional characters ever, and given that it's a new take on a film, one that's finally true to the source. I def. think it will hit past $200mil, hell the fans alone will make that possible.

[Jon Lyrik]

I agree. Batman Begins can be extremely frontloaded and it will still pass $200 million. The opening is going to be huge. It's going to be in 4,250 theaters and the series has set opening weekend records with the first three movies.

All of the biggest successes have been relatively unknown pictures or ones that weren't expected to do well (Star Wars, Titanic, Gone with the WInd, etc.)

Nobody expected GWTW to do well? You're kidding, right?

But yes, perhaps you're right. Generally, new #1 movies end up completely flooring everyone with their box office stamina. It's usually not a film that people expected to be #1.

[Gone in 60sec]

Straight up NOO. I dont think a movie will beat titanic...agreed war of the worlds could come the closest but im going with the biggest ape ever KING KONG to be the highest grossing movie this year,,meaning i think it will come the closest.

[Backstabba]

( A horrible Teenager joke)
I tink that dat movi "Gues Who" will mak serious $$$! Bernie = My Dawg!

(Seriously)

.....I think war of the worlds has a chance.

[PuggyD]

"War of the Worlds" = the worst kind of "event movie". The movie that doesn't look all that interesting, but it has big stars, a big director, and everyone goes to see it just because everyone says it will be huge. Self fulfilling prophecy. But yeah, it's gonna make money. The difference between Spielberg's other huge movies, though, is that Jaws, E.T., and even Jurassic Park were fairly original at the time. WOTW is pretty well worn territory. Not a chance it'll top "Titanic" and I find it hard to believe that anyone thinks it will. It looks so thoroughly unimpressive.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by PuggyD
Jaws, E.T., and even Jurassic Park were fairly original at the time. WOTW is pretty well worn territory.

Jaws and Jurassic Park were both based on pretty popular books. :D

[Badbird]

Before 1997, no one ever imagined a movie could top $500 million, let alone $600, and you think Revenge of the Fucking SIth "has a chance?"

As if $600 million is no big deal anymore?

No summer movie will EVER beat Titanic. NEVER EVER. There's way too much competition. Titanic opened in December and had a clean run for four months with little to no competition. It was number one at the box office for fourteen fucking weeks. How many movies stay number one for more that two weeks now?

What if Revenge of the Sith sucks? What if WOTW sucks? Or at least mediocre? Why don't we see these movies before we want them to be NUMBER ONE BOX OFFICE DRAW OF ALL TIME?

Movies don't have staying power anymore. Far too many titles are released and there are far too many movie theaters. It's sad to say, but 1997 feels like a very, very long time ago - the entire environment has changed.

Titanic will stand for 15 to 20 years before inflated ticket prices gets some movie to knock it down.

PS - there's no way Batman does over 200. Star Wars will probably sputter out around 300, WOTW might get 200. King Kong? Who cares about a giant ape? The people who saw Mighty Joe Young certainly didn't.

[zeppelin]

I'm fairly confident that the highest-grossing movie this year will be Revenge of the Sith, but no way in hell is it going to gross $600 million. It probably won't even reach the $400 million mark. My guess is more around $350 million.

War of the Worlds will be big, but not THAT big. The reason Titanic made so much is because it appealed to a wide range of people, many of whom liked it enough to see it again. War of the Worlds appeals only to a certain demographic, and while it may be a fun summer action movie, I highly doubt it will be the kind of movie that people want to see over and over. It'll probably do around $300 million, but that's only half-way to the top spot.

King Kong will also be huge, but again, not nearly enough to beat Titanic. Peter Jackson is now a household name thanks to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, so his name alone can convince people to see it. And plus, it's King Kong, which is at least as popular (probably moreso) than another famous movie monster, Godzilla. And when the Godzilla remake came out to terrible reviews, it still managed to gross $130 million or so. I'm pretty confident that King Kong will be a much better movie than Godzilla, and will get good reviews, if not very good ones. Should easily pass $200 million, though I don't see it quite reaching $300 million.

Batman Begins could go either way. It won't be a flop...if Batman & Robin could gross over $100 million, then any Batman movie can. But Christian Bale is a relative unknown, and the rest of the cast isn't exactly "box office draw" either. It's going to take good reviews and word-of-mouth to get this movie going. The fan base alone will guarantee at least $120 million or so. If it's really good, it'll pass $200 million. But I don't see it making any more than maybe $250 million, absolute tops.

[Thes]

King Kong has a lot going for it that will help it make a lot of money:
i/ Peter Jackson. He has a huge fan base globally thanks to the LOTR trilogy. He also has the loyalty of the New Zealand people (think how much work and money he brings to his homeland by making the film there). Aussies tend to bag out the New Zealanders until they achieve success, and then we adopt them as our own, hence the Australian audience will also be sizable.
ii/ Naomi Campbell. See above point about loyalty and transfer to Australian film goers
iii/ Positive buzz on net already. You only have to read some of the hype on sites like Ain't It Cool News to see the buzz is huge. Fan boys will be queing already
iv/ Nostagia. Due to the very film being remade, more people from the 'grey sect' will check it out. King Kong was such an iconic film, not once but twice. My dad - who is very fussy about his movies - has already expressed a keen desire to see this version, just to compare them all.

Will it make 600 mill? I don't think so. Will it come close? Possibly.
But my main question is - why the hell did Titanic make so much in the first place? Was it really that good?

[Kal-El76]

If any movie were to break Titanics Boxoffice Records, it'd have to be a film that appeals to a very WIDE demographic. Titanic appealed to crowds anywhere from 13 to 80. Star Wars does not, nor does War of the Worlds. Titantic was a global phenomenon, partly due to the pre-release stories of it going over budget, and it was being tagged the new "Waterworld". Just there, the curiosity made them millions.

"...Of course thats just my opinion. I could be wrong"

[TheDeadWalk]

Would anyone like to place a bet about Revenge of the Sith? An actual bet where you would win something? I firmly believe that it will not break the domestic record.

[jeo4]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
Would anyone like to place a bet about Revenge of the Sith? An actual bet where you would win something? I firmly believe that it will not break the domestic record.

After all the bitching about the first two prequels, I have no doubt you're right. It just doesn't have the following now. And that's really sad to me, considering TITANIC is one of my most loathed movies ever.

[Shockwave]

Whatever beats Titanic is going to be an off-the-wall movie, it might be a blockbuster, but its not going to be something your going to be able to see coming.

Would anyone like to place a bet about Revenge of the Sith? An actual bet where you would win something? I firmly believe that it will not break the domestic record.

Due to the PG-13 rating and dark nature of the film, Lucas thinks ROTS will make the LEAST amount out of the prequals.

I disagree, i think it will make somewhere inbetween AOTC and TPM, but it wont touch Titanic.