Official Superman <S> logo!

[Patrick Bateman]

And here it is.

http://img124.echo.cx/img124/1817/jjj2jv.jpg

[outsyder]

So . . . . . does it shoot lasers?

[Dead Halloween]

I hope the costume is not blue and grey.

[Nachokoolaid]

That looks BLEH. It also looks like it could be Photoshoped. It's not that impressive. And if it's a continuation of the story, I don't see how the costume could be any different. Perhaps a little "cooler/up to date," sort of like the Spidey outfit, but it should not be changed.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Nachokoolaid
That looks BLEH. It also looks like it could be Photoshoped.

Yeah, doesn't look too good to me, either. The blue's a little flashy, the logo itself is a little bleh, and where's the red and gold?

Is this official, or is it just a fan-made Photoshop?

[Sigur509]

It feels.....fake. So far, as not being a fan of Sumperman himself, this film is not looking good at all.

[Patrick Bateman]

Originally posted by James Logan
Yeah, doesn't look too good to me, either. The blue's a little flashy, the logo itself is a little bleh, and where's the red and gold?

Is this official, or is it just a fan-made Photoshop?

As far as I understand, it is the official <S> logo for Superman Returns. Think of how Donner used the logo for promotional poster's with his version, and you'll get the idea.
http://superman.rossiters.com/images/s-logo2.jpg

Dont worry, the shield that will be used on the costume itself will have the classic colors. It will just have more of a 3-D design/look to it. With a slight bulge in the middle.

Expect something like this on the costume itself.
http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/536/264shield.jpg

Personally, I like it. Not exactly classic, but I can live with it. Seems a bit "Jim Lee inspired" as far as the design of the S is concerned.
But Jim Lee is alright by me. :cool:

[adamjohnson]

Look,

If you look in the bulge int he middle you can see Chris Reeve's head. And if you check out the top left corner, you can see Brandan Routh flying!



:D

[XvoorheesX]

Personally, I like it. Not exactly classic, but I can live with it. Seems a bit "Jim Lee inspired" as far as the design of the S is concerned.
Don't you mean Alex Ross?

[Patrick Bateman]

Originally posted by XvoorheesX
Don't you mean Alex Ross?

Nope. Jim Lee.

Looks alot like his version of the <S> symbol, from his recent run in Superman. :)

[Silverload]

This looks to be just a promotional image, but there is no way in hell this 3D image is going to be on his costume, that would just be too lame looking.

Yeah it looks a little fake, but it doesn't look nearly as photoshopped as the official Batman Begins logo, and considering how bad the artwork for Batman Begins looked for a while I'm willing to believe anything. But as for the shape of the S, it looks perfect and if this suit's S is this shape without the 3D then I'll be one happy camper.

Plus this doesn't look finished at all, I'm sure the background and colors are only temporary because this looks like it had just been rendered out of some 3D program (which is probably why it looks fake).

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Patrick Bateman

Personally, I like it. Not exactly classic, but I can live with it. Seems a bit "Jim Lee inspired" as far as the design of the S is concerned.
But Jim Lee is alright by me.

I love Jim Lee too, no problem. And...I don't know. If it's just a promotional image, then I don't get why the colors are so out of whack and why it looks so Photoshopped, because I know marketing people can do a lot better. I mean, look at the care the guys from BATMAN BEGINS put into their logo -- this doesn't even compare. I know Silverload doesn't like the Bats logo, but at least it had some detail, that gritty metallic look that gave you a feel for what they were going for. This is just a big Photoshopped "S" on a way too-flashy blue background, and it looks like something I could've done given 25 minutes.

I don't know. I'm getting worried. Sure, Kate Bosworth looks fine as Lois, and she can act, and Kevin Spacey is a slick Lex Luthor choice, and Eva Marie Saint is a perfect Ma Kent, and Singer's proven he knows how to direct a movie. But this logo doesn't look too good (although your version with the classic colors looks better), I hate the idea of Lois Lane possibly being married and having a kid, I don't feel too hot about the plot itself as we've heard it so far (Supes having disappeared and apparently...coming back from Krypton, and crashing back into the Kent fields?), some of the casting choices seem completely off, there seems to be too many character already as if Singer were trying to make this an ensemble à la X-MEN, and Brandon Routh is still a complete mystery and could go either way.

I don't know. I can't say this is looking bad, but I have to admit I'm starting to get worried.

[XvoorheesX]

Originally posted by Patrick Bateman
Nope. Jim Lee.

Looks alot like his version of the <S> symbol, from his recent run in Superman. :)
Alex Ross was doing that years before Jim Lee was even associated with DC.

[Kal-El76]

Funny, I didn't think it looked ANYTHING like Jim Lee's Superman logo (well, the one used in the "For Tomorrow" arc). Are we talking about the logo in the "Batman: Hush" arc??

This symbol/logo/shield/emblem looks just fine. There are a lot of people who are just going to cry foul. I am a traditionalist through and through, but you have to understand one thing. They need to tweak the logo to stand apart from OTHER logos, as to have somehting new for the merchandise onslaught. This looks fine. Crisp and very bold. I mean it COULD be worse! They coulda tried the logo form the Superman: Blue days.

[Layer Change]

That thing looks too heavy to wear on a costume! :D

Can't wait for the movie!

[Silverload]

Originally posted by James Logan
I hate the idea of Lois Lane possibly being married and having a kid

This is my biggest problem with the flick so far, but hey, Lois being married and having a kid might simply be the doings of one crazy magical little extra-dimensional imp named Mr. Mxyzptlk :D

I'm not worried about the rumors of Superman traveling to Krypton for 6 year because Singer did say this is a sequel to the first two films and in those flicks Krypton's long gone. Why Superman left Earth for 6 years is still a mystery, I'm just hoping Singer and the gang make it all worthwhile.

This movie is still a question mark for me, I'm not sure what to think about it. Bryan Singer seems like he wants to remain true to Donner's masterpiece, and since he did a bang up job with X-Men I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. So far I'm pretty happy with the cast (Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor is pure genius) and this movie really does seem to be a massive step up from the nightmare we came so close to getting. Maybe it will all work out, maybe.

[Silverload]

Just for the hell of it I took this new 'S' symbol and colored it and photoshopped it onto the original Superman poster just to see what it would look like.

Here's what I came up with:

http://www.members.aol.com/silverload007/images/superman.jpg

[Patrick Bateman]

I don't know. I can't say this is looking bad, but I have to admit I'm starting to get worried.

I know. Believe me, I totally understand where you're coming from. My thoughts exactly.

Alex Ross was doing that years before Jim Lee was even associated with DC.

And Curt Swan before Ross.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at?
IMO, Ross' version looks more like the classic interpretation of the symbol. More like the one seen in Superman: The Movie, than in one being used in Superman Returns.

Oh, and Silverload, nice! :cool:

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Silverload
This is my biggest problem with the flick so far, but hey, Lois being married and having a kid might simply be the doings of one crazy magical little extra-dimensional imp named Mr. Mxyzptlk :D


Yeah, but try actually pronouncing the little fucker's name. People in the theater will just go "what?". :)

Originally posted by Silverload

I'm not worried about the rumors of Superman traveling to Krypton for 6 year because Singer did say this is a sequel to the first two films and in those flicks Krypton's long gone. Why Superman left Earth for 6 years is still a mystery, I'm just hoping Singer and the gang make it all worthwhile.


That was my first reflex, too, but then questions arose in my mind:

-- If Supes isn't going to Krytpon, where IS he going?
-- Those images of the return-to-Earth landing that were in the diary made it look like he crashed in some kind of ship. This is Superman we're talking about. Why'd he need a ship? And if he wasn't a ship, why'd he land like that? Did someone "crash" him back?
-- Is it just me, or does that whole "Superman-leaving-and-then-coming-back" sound like they're trying to use the themes and feelings of the WORLD WITHOUT A SUPERMAN and RETURN OF SUPERMAN story arcs, without actually having to kill the man off early?

And many other questions.

And see, your Photoshop poster thing looks a hundred times slicker than the official image the Warner Brothers people put out there. And theirs came out today, so it obviously took you less than a day to get it done, so my question is -- how fucking lazy do you have to be to be a professional and dish out an amateurish, no oumph, nothing special logo like they did?

[Cipher Jo]

It's an S logo...I'm waiting to see Brandon in the costume before I make judgements.

[James Logan]

And, to go on with my ranting, let's not forget that this movie is produced by Jon Peters. The man who chased Tim Burton away from both the Batman franchise and SUPERMAN LIVES, the man who insisted WILD WILD WEST have giant spiders, the man who's rumored according to old colleagues and sources to be barely able to read, the man who chased Kevin Smith off writing the SUPERMAN LIVES project by telling him that he didn't want Superman to wear a suit and didn't want Superman to fly and wanted him to fight a giant spider in the end, and also that he wanted Brainiac to have a cuddly dog pet "looking like our own Chewbacca", the man whose first choice for Superman in this project was Josh Hartnett, the man who hired McG, Brett Ratner, and McG again before Bryan Singer pitching his idea, the man who greenlit JJ Abrams's dreadfull MATRIX-like script where Superman's powers come from his liquid suit and Krypton hasn't exploded and Lex Luthor was also an alien, the man who got his break in producing as he was Barbra Streisand's hair stylist...

The man is notorious for bullying people. He denied a credit to John Carpenter when he was producing EYES OF LAURA MARS. Rob Cohen, not a priest of artsy film himself, has described him as "analyzing every script based on sex, killing, rock and roll, and what movie was a hit last weekend. That's the Jon Peters view of movies." He's known for being a rip-off and always trying to imitate the latest hit. He's claimed to having produced and gotten made THE COLOR PURPLE and RAIN MAN, when all involved attest he had nothing to do with them except slapping his name on them in the end credits. This is a man who has angered Neil Gaiman over the SANDMAN movie project because he feels Sandman should be more violent and heroic and fist-fighting to "appeal to the masses".

Sure, this guy isn't the one directing the film. But since he's got WB's backing because he had commercial hits with the first two BATMAN movies and FLASHDANCE (despite the directors of those films doing their best to ignore his pleas), he gets to stay on movie projects and hire and fire directors. And he's known for either forcing people out when they don't listen (Burton on BATMAN FOREVER and SUPERMAN LIVES, Neil Gaiman in the development of SANDMAN), or making them listen to his crappy ideas (forcing the giant spider machine into WILD WILD WEST, wrestling actor Robert Black to the ground before MONEY TRAIN started production to see if he'd submit).

All I'm saying is this -- this man's been fucking with the Superman and Batman movies since the early 90s, and he's still producing this one, and he's known for keeping directors who'll give in to at least some of his wacko demands. What if Singer's the one big-name that stuck because he's actually giving in to some of it?

I hope not. But the fact that the credits will read "Produced by Jon Peters" is something that worries me very, very much, and will up to opening day.

[Thrizzle]

Originally posted by James Logan
And, to go on with my ranting, let's not forget that this movie is produced by Jon Peters. The man who chased Tim Burton away from both the Batman franchise and SUPERMAN LIVES, the man who insisted WILD WILD WEST have giant spiders, the man who's rumored according to old colleagues and sources to be barely able to read, the man who chased Kevin Smith off writing the SUPERMAN LIVES project by telling him that he didn't want Superman to wear a suit and didn't want Superman to fly and wanted him to fight a giant spider in the end, and also that he wanted Brainiac to have a cuddly dog pet "looking like our own Chewbacca", the man whose first choice for Superman in this project was Josh Hartnett, the man who hired McG, Brett Ratner, and McG again before Bryan Singer pitching his idea, the man who greenlit JJ Abrams's dreadfull MATRIX-like script where Superman's powers come from his liquid suit and Krypton hasn't exploded and Lex Luthor was also an alien, the man who got his break in producing as he was Barbra Streisand's hair stylist...


His ideas are so horrible it's depressing.

[UBER_MAX]

I didn't know Jon Peters was the one who chased Tim Burton off of Batman Forever. I hate him now. Really hate him. Really, really hate him. Really, really, REALLY HATE HIM. And I liked that Kevin Smith Superman script I read, it kicked ass.

[Silverload]

Don't even remind me of Jon Peters, right now I'm doing my best to pretend he doesn't exist. And I truly hope the rumors of Peters are true, that he is just keeping his name on the film but isn't really that involved with it because he is so burned out on Superman. That and maybe the WB wised up and locked Peters away in some dark forgotten underground basement where he can incoherently mumble his lame ideas for Superman as loud as he wants and no one can hear.

And speaking of Sandman and Jon Peters, if you go to wordplayer.com Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio has the Sandman script online to read and Ted Elliott's intro tells of what a moron Jon Peters is. That it took them twenty minutes of explaining just to get Peters to understand that Dream gets captured. Then Peters wanted to kick them off of the project because they wouldn't change to story to be about a bunch of teenagers at a slumber party holding a séance that causes them to accidentally capture Dream :rolleyes:

[jeo4]

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[jeo4]

Dammit Logan, now I have no desire to see this film. The very mention of Peters does that, though.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by jeo4
Dammit Logan, now I have no desire to see this film.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. :)

But that, the plot, the five-year old kid thing, the logo, and so on...Now you understand how it all adds up to me being worried. :D