God, House Of A Thousand Corpses is horrible.

[thedudeman69]

I am not trying to offend anybody, but it was just pure shit. I hated the style, the direction and some of the dilogue was pure crap. It was just bad. I also didn't like the content of it. I have never liked Rob Zombie. But, I might check out The Devil's Rejects because it looks like it will be one cool ass sequel.

[C-Desecration-]

I agree with you. Just a sad mess of a movie. Now I don't mind style over substance at all, but the directing was just gosh, just . . . no good. I was looking forward to rejects, until I caught a review in the current movie thread by that madsen fellow. He pretty much spelled out most of my fears about the sequel. Still, I'll wait to see about the meter on good old rottentomatoes.com, but unless it's real good Rejects won't get a DVD rent from me.

But yes, the flick is pretty bad.

[TheDeadWalk]

I thought it was halfway decent, but the last fifteen minutes of the film were pretty stupid.

[The_Driller_Killer]

Yeah, we had kind of a feuding topic about this film not too long ago. The lovers of the movie were giving their praise and the haters were giving their derision. I was on the haters side. I thought it was just awful. The writing is abysmal and the direction is plain embarassing. And Jesus Christ, could Sherri Moon have possibly been more annoying? I wanted to rip her face off so bad.

Anyway, I think I'll pass on Rejects. It's once again written and directed by Rob Zombie, so I can't imagine it being any good.

[KcMsterpce]

I thought House of 1000 Corpses was one of the worst movies that whole year.

But I might give Rejects a chance, and if I hate that... never see a Rob Zombie flick ever again. At least, not PAY to see one, that is.

[SpongeBod]

I didn't like Corpses much myself, but I still want to see Rejects.

I tell you what I liked better than HOTC.
Way back, when the trailer for Rumble In The Bronx came out with More Human Than Human playing as it showed cool action scenes.

[wheresdonnie?]

I didn't bother with 1000 Corpses, looked shit. This basically looks like more of the same. I might give it a chance, but I won't go out of my way to see it.

[Cronos]

looks like im one of the few that loved Corpses, its one of my favourite horror films from the last 5 or so years, i liked the look and direction of the film and just had a blast for the whole running time

i cant wait for Rejects to come out over here

[Psychocandy]

Originally posted by Cronos
looks like im one of the few that loved Corpses, its one of my favourite horror films from the last 5 or so years, i liked the look and direction of the film and just had a blast for the whole running time

i cant wait for Rejects to come out over here

Nah. You're not the only one. I loved it. It's a trashy gem. I still don't understand how anyone who professes to be a fan of horror cinema could possibly find nothing to enjoy about House Of 1000 Corpses. As for The Devil's Rejects. I've seen the trailer and read the reviews/interviews and just KNOW that it's going to blow me away. There's no room for doubt in my mind. It's going to be one of my faves this year. Absolutely certain of it.

[KcMsterpce]

Originally posted by Psychocandy
I still don't understand how anyone who professes to be a fan of horror cinema could possibly find nothing to enjoy about House Of 1000 Corpses.

I don't understand how people make this kind of statement. It's a difference of opinion, and it's silly to say that 'fans of horror will automatically love this movie'. I love horror, but I also hated this movie. Why? Because that's just the way I feel about it. :(

[Mr-Blonde]

I'm ambivalent about this film. IMO it wasn't the total trash that some maintain but it wasn't the second coming of slasher films that many of it's protractors allege. Still it's interesting what extreme reactions that most folks have towards it.

I felt that the film's strongest element was it's over-the-top antagonists (especially Sid Haig) but it's biggest weakness was it's mentally reatarted protagonists. These kids were beyond stupid and had "kill me" written all over them. I understand that was the point but it doesn't help the thing from feeling false and contrived. I can wait till the DVD release for Rejects.

[JayWolf]

Originally posted by The_Driller_Killer
Anyway, I think I'll pass on Rejects. It's once again written and directed by Rob Zombie, so I can't imagine it being any good.

I wouldn't be so judgemental right away myself, Driller Killer. From all the clips of the movie I've seen, all the reviews, and all the trailers/TV spots, it has a completely different feel from HO1KC. The directing is a lot more controlled, it's a lot less over the top and more gritty, and the characters a lot more defined.

But then again, your decision. I just don't think it's such a good idea to pass the buck so quickly, especially since it stands on its own rather than as a sequel.

[Psychocandy]

Originally posted by KcMsterpce
I don't understand how people make this kind of statement. It's a difference of opinion, and it's silly to say that 'fans of horror will automatically love this movie'. I love horror, but I also hated this movie. Why? Because that's just the way I feel about it. :(

Go back and read what I wrote and understand how you've misread me.

[EvilDeadGirl]

Its nice to see that I'm not all alone in my dislike for HOTC.

The directing was shit, the story was shit. Majority of the acting was shit. One loong ass music video if ya ask me. I've ranted about this before so I won't spare you all my speal.

As far as Devil's Rejects go. The ONLY way I'd see this is if I didn't have to pay for it.

[Jas]

I remember seeing this for the first time and when It was over I thought It was pretty damn good.
However recently I caught it on TV, and the first thing that came into my mind when the movie was over was "What the fuck was I thinking". I'm gonna go see Rejects but I'm definitely going in with low expectations.

[IamNoOne666]

Originally posted by Cronos
looks like im one of the few that loved Corpses, its one of my favourite horror films from the last 5 or so years, i liked the look and direction of the film and just had a blast for the whole running time

i cant wait for Rejects to come out over here

yeah your not alone I loved it, and can't wait for Rejects either.

[adcrochunter]

The Direction was crap, as with most of the acting, the only good thing about this flick was the funny Captain Spaulding

[The_Driller_Killer]

Originally posted by JayWolf
I wouldn't be so judgemental right away myself, Driller Killer. From all the clips of the movie I've seen, all the reviews, and all the trailers/TV spots, it has a completely different feel from HO1KC. The directing is a lot more controlled, it's a lot less over the top and more gritty, and the characters a lot more defined.

But then again, your decision. I just don't think it's such a good idea to pass the buck so quickly, especially since it stands on its own rather than as a sequel.

I honestly don't think Zombie possesses one iota of talent when it comes to making a horror film, so I think it's fair to pre-judge on Rejects. I mean, this is his second movie (he hasn't had much time to learn and grow) and it's more of Corpses, so why would I find it at all appealing?

Anyway, I can sometimes stomach a film that is as equally bad as Corpses (I have plenty of "so bad, it's good" favorites), but my main complaint about this film is that it's such an obvious Chainsaw Massacre rip-off. Oh, and let's not forget, Zombie can't write dialogue for shit. I cringed at some of the things he made those poor actors say.

I'm gonna stop myself here. I can go on and on critiquing this movie's hideousness, but I'll leave the floor open for the next schmoe.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by The_Driller_Killer
but my main complaint about this film is that it's such an obvious Chainsaw Massacre rip-off.

I thought it was an obvious tribute. Not a ripoff.

Anyway, I did like it. Yeah, the directing was cheesy from time to time, and most of the dialogue (especially among the annoying teens) was bloody terrible.

Otherwise, it was good, scary fun.

[The_Driller_Killer]

Yeah, countchocula and I had this same argument in the previous thread about the film. Some see the movie as a tribute, I see it as a rip-off. That's just my interpretation.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by The_Driller_Killer
Yeah, countchocula and I had this same argument in the previous thread about the film. Some see the movie as a tribute, I see it as a rip-off. That's just my interpretation.
I understand what you mean. I thougt it was ripping it off before I saw it, when I read the synopsis. But then I remembered that Zombie is a huge horror fan, would obviously know about and respect TCM and would tribute it. After all, many consider it the best and most fathery (as in, "the father of all") horror movie ever.

Plus, it's waaaaay too similar to TCM to be a ripoff.

[saintofscars]

Why do some people keep saying the directing was crap? It wasn't crap, it was just different. That's why you either loved it or you didn't. Rejects will be different again. I think Rob Zombie, whether you like his style or not, has the balls to do things his own way and deserves a little more respect.

I wanna be Captain Spaulding when I grow up:)

[C-Desecration-]

I think Rob Zombie, whether you like his style or not, has the balls to do things his own way and deserves a little more respect.



When it comes to life, compromise is a virtue. When it comes to art, it's a vice?

And, rip-off or tribute, it's an unoriginal movie, as much so or equally as all the remakes and sequels and other hocus pocus. So why aren't the horror fans complaining about yet another unoriginal movie? Wait, wait, I know.
No, wait. . .I don't.

[poopontheshoes7]

I liked it. Sure the kids were beyond thin, some of the acting sucked, but I thought it had this trippy acid vibe that was really cool. Capt Spaulding and Otis kicked ass. And its I dont give a fuck violence was mucho appreciated by me:)

[GrimKnife101]

I thought it was really good. I was very entertained by it. The first time I saw it I didn't know what to think about it. Then I rented it when it came out on DVD and I loved it.

[Duke Nukem]

My personal opinion is that so many of you just didn't get the movie. I'm sorry, but that's what I think. I mean, we are "those people" who actually enjoy so many of the crappy horror movies that exist in the world - we were the audience horror was made for - while the critics instantly label them with automatic one-star ratings and while mainstream label them as "crap" that "sucks."

I know you all have your own opinions, that's fine by me, but what baffles me is that so many of the die-hard horror fans who like so much of the other so-called horror "crap" couldn't like this.

This movie is no worse than the other horror "crap" that the critics and mainstream instantly label with automatic one-star ratings. This movie has one of those horror moods that only we can get. I can't explain what it is, but it just does. Come on, the acting was wasn't great, but the acting in so many other horror "crap" isn't so great either, is it? And, we still love those them! And the directing was not crap. Rob Zombie was directing from the his own dark, horror-loving heart and the movie was fine to follow and understand. The directing wasn't great, but it wasn't "crap."

And it doesn't make sense that this can be labeled a "rip-off. It isn't! This movie IS a tribute to backwoods TCM type movies, the mad-doctor like movies (Dr. Satan) and so on. The movie WASN'T just a "rip-off" of TCM, it was its own movie. It didn't feature Leatherface and the like, it featured a completely different crazy family.

You schmoes seriously need to watch this movie again re-examine it. It isn't THAT bad and it isn't a rip-off. It's a different horror movie all in its own. I know there's other schmoes who agree with me.

[IamNoOne666]

Like I said on the other threads I just stopped debateing rather or not people should like it, it's their opinion and thats what forums are for. But I still get alittle bothered when people say it's a rip off of TCM. How is it a rip off? SOme kids get lost on back roads and run into a messed up family. Thats it, the rest of the movie is nothing like TCM and TCM isn't the only movie and neither is this one that ever had "people get lost and run into messed up people" that happenes A LOT in horror movie so I don't know why people single this one out.

[JayWolf]

I still feel those who didn't dig HO1KC will find The Devil's Rejects to be more up their alley.

The shocker is that even the critics are liking Rejects. I have only seen two or three bad reviews so far. I am very surprised about that.

[C-Desecration-]

Two or three bad reviews? It's rotten at rottentomatoes.com! But, to be fair, it's at 57% right now, whereas the first one got 16%. So it does seem like it's a great deal better.
But I'm going to wait on renting rejects until I hear some schmoe opinions from the folks who disliked the original. Any takers?

[JayWolf]

I never go to RottenTomatoes.com usually.

And yes, 57% is a huge increase from 16%

[Mr-Blonde]

Well a friend managd to convince me to see Devil's Rejects tonight and.... I.... loved.. it!

This film blows HO1KC away! Go see this awesome genre flick now!!!

[saintofscars]

Originally posted by C-Desecration-
When it comes to life, compromise is a virtue. When it comes to art, it's a vice?


Damn right it's a vice!!! All film directors should make films the way they want to make them. They shouldn't have to alter their ideas or water down their vision to suit anyone. If no one likes what they did then that's fine, but somebody's gotta take risks or everything will stay the same.

[Shockwave]

HOTC was complete shit, but one failure doesnt kill a career for me. Zombi has potential and it was his first try. Many lessons are learned from one movie to another.

I think i may actualy give this a try, im in a sour mood with all the shit horror movies around, and i NEED something hard hitting.(but quality, unlike HOTC)


Im hoping for a reaction akin to that of Mr-Blondes, but im willing to walk away mearly satisfied that i didnt waste my money and was content for an hour or two.;)

[C-Desecration-]

If no one likes what they did then that's fine, but somebody's gotta take risks or everything will stay the same.


True enough. But making a cheap genre film with lots of gore is not one such revolutionary risk.
Besides, I've always thought horror fans aiming for and applauding gore and violence really need to point their crosshairs in another, better, direction.

[Shockwave]

C-D, i agree, gore alone can never make a movie great.

Thats what i felt we got with HOTC..and thats the rule im hoping Zombie has learned with this movie. To me, IT LOOKS, like hes matured ENOUGH as a film maker for me to give it a chance based on what ive read and seen.

[Shockwave]

Ill probably give it a go tomorrow if THE ISLAND doesnt snare me. Im curious to see both movies based on critical reaction.

[C-Desecration-]

I'm still waiting for you guys that hated the first to toss any opinions on numero two. Now I might check it out anyways because I've been getting some free time enough to head to the movie thater every now and again, and what with the positive critic reaction I might just give it a go. But if anyof you house haters catch it, by all means give a review.

[Mr-Blonde]

Originally posted by C-Desecration-
I'm still waiting for you guys that hated the first to toss any opinions on numero two.

I didn't much care for HO1KC and here's my review on Rejects. (http://www2.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1900310#post1900310)

[Dead]

It's bad enough that all my friends give me the most dissapointed look when I mention this movie but now I have to hear it here? ;)

I gotta turn to the Arrow on this one. Like he said, it's all horror from start to finish and that means the mood, direction, etc....

Now of course it doesn't do a damn thing for a lot of people but I myself really appreciate the effort from Rob.

[WazAa]

HOTC wasn't the best movie I've ever seen but I appreciated it, horror combined with a sadistic touch of humor :)

Rejects seems even more promising!