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Brando @$$ Fat
08-14-2005, 03:04 PM
Before I get started with my little rant, I'd first like to say that I am willing to admit that Jimmy Carter was not a very good president, even though I've never really been happy with any of the presidents in my lifetime.

Still, it amazes me how the right goes out of their way to attack Jimmy Carter. Here is a man who has built homes for thousands of poverty stricken families, who knows how many lives his organization has saved.

It also amazed me to see Carter in Bernard Goldberg's book (don't worry I didn't actually purchase that shit) "The 100 People Who are Screwing America" at #6. I mean, maybe Goldberg disagrees, but I don't necessarily find it a bad thing to aid the poverty stricken families overseas and at home.

Even though I know some of you will still disagree with me (Lynn 7, others) it still doesn't change the fact that he is not what is destroying this country. Hell, I don't see anybody saying anything about George Bush Sr. promising no new taxes, and totally reversing his promise. The hypocrisy in this country at times is overwhelming.

James Logan
08-14-2005, 05:33 PM
Um...Like Carter or not -- how exactly would he be "screwing" America? (haven't read or heard of the book, so I'm just curious, because it doesn't seem to make any sense to me)

echo_bravo
08-14-2005, 07:12 PM
Yeah Brando, could you give us a little summarization on what Goldberg said about Carter? Was it his involvement with Cuba?

I, for one, got no problem with Carter.

echo_bravo
08-14-2005, 07:16 PM
Meh, I don't remember, to be honest, the book was too stupid for me to finish.

So what is there is back this rant up? I mean, if you cant even remember what the big bad right wing has to say about Carter, then why be mad? LOL

Brando @$$ Fat
08-14-2005, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by echo_bravo
Yeah Brando, could you give us a little summarization on what Goldberg said about Carter? Was it his involvement with Cuba?

I, for one, got no problem with Carter.

Meh, I don't remember, to be honest, the book was too stupid for me to finish.

Brando @$$ Fat
08-14-2005, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by echo_bravo
So what is there is back this rant up? I mean, if you cant even remember what the big bad right wing has to say about Carter, then why be mad? LOL

Ok, first of all, don't mistake me for some liberal who's constantly angered at "the big bad right." It just kind of pisses me off in general that someone would claim a man who is doing so much good is screwing up the country.

Other than that, your argument would've been good if you hadn't used "LOL."

JohnTheHenchman
08-15-2005, 03:58 AM
Al Franken should be higher.

outsyder
08-15-2005, 08:24 AM
http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bin/imageserver.x/0004fb91/mlazarow/billycarter1977poster.jpg


"Ahhh, we elected the wrong Carter . . . . "

MacReady
08-15-2005, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
Al Franken should be higher.

Why?

The Postmaster General
08-15-2005, 01:17 PM
Since we are bringing up that idiotic book again, I just wanted to again mention the exclusions of Osama bin Laden, Timothy McVeigh, any person connected with Columbine (or any thing related to school violence, not counting Michael Moore who made a movie talking about the events...), Charles Manson, David Duke, any members of th Hell's Angels, any known criminals, that guy who raped 38 boys, the other guy who dismembered little girls....

The author didn't consider any of these people to be hurting our country, but thinks we are going to think he is a genius of the wit because he name-dropped Al Franken in his title.

In the words of Bugs Bunny: What a maroon!

MacReady
08-15-2005, 01:46 PM
What's also humourous (as Jon Stewart pointed out) is that there's only 4 conservatives on that list, one of whom shot an abortionist.

What's also funny is that apparently every who ran for Democratic candidate ('04) was on there.

Lynn7
08-15-2005, 09:58 PM
The guy who wrote that book has been targetted by the media he worked for for years- it seems that they do not like to be criticized by one of their own. He has the right to write any book he wants to just like Al Franken does and all the others.

As far as CArter goes, I think it is nice that he teaches Sunday School and that he helps build houses but in recent years he has been a negative person who seems to have nothing positive to say.for someone who was so criticized while he was in office you'd think he would have consideration for others who are faced with tough decisions. He doesn't. I don't really listen to anything he says and yet I used to really like him. In my opinion, he is like the good Kirk in the Star Trek episode where Kirk is split in two as he is in the transporter and there is good Kirk and bad Kirk. It turns out that the good Kirk is unable to lead because he can't make decisions and is fearful. He is weak. That is a reference for any Star Trek junkies. :D

echo_bravo
08-15-2005, 11:22 PM
Hey, i had to use the LOL thing. I mean, your response was funny dude.

"Meh, I don't remember, to be honest, the book was too stupid for me to finish."-Brando's Ass Fat

The Postmaster General
08-16-2005, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Lynn7
The guy who wrote that book has been targetted by the media he worked for for years- it seems that they do not like to be criticized by one of their own. He has the right to write any book he wants to just like Al Franken does and all the others.



When Michael Moore gets bad reviews for a movie, we say "Even the left sees it's a poor quality film."

This guy writes a shit book that gets bad reviews, and then they "do not like to be criticized by one of their own."

This guy is getting off pretty easy when you consider Al Franken was sued over his similar book.

EVILxxx
08-17-2005, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
Even though I know some of you will still disagree with me (Lynn 7, others) it still doesn't change the fact that he is not what is destroying this country. Hell, I don't see anybody saying anything about George Bush Sr. promising no new taxes, and totally reversing his promise. The hypocrisy in this country at times is overwhelming.

Did you not watch the 1992 campaign with Bush vs. Clinton? Every other commercial was "Read my lips", hell it was practically a catchphrase and was one of the main reasons he didn't get reelected.

electriclite
08-30-2005, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by EVILxxx
Did you not watch the 1992 campaign with Bush vs. Clinton? Every other commercial was "Read my lips", hell it was practically a catchphrase and was one of the main reasons he didn't get reelected.

I think it was even parodied on the U2 ZooTV tour, when Bono wasn't calling the White House while onstage. :D

Lynn7
08-30-2005, 07:09 PM
Actually George Bush made a huge sacrifice when he went along with the Dems for the new taxes they convinced him they really needed- and then they turned it against him in the election, quite effectively. The Repubs went nuts cause they knew this would be a fiasco but he was trying to get along with the opposition through compromise to make abetter working relationship- no good deed goes unpunished and yet sometimes I think if George HW Bush hadn't lost that election, I doubt his son would've ever aspired to be president. It was the outcome of that election that got George W's political blood boiling.

The Postmaster General
09-01-2005, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Lynn7
... but he was trying to get along with the opposition through compromise to make abetter working relationship- no good deed goes unpunished ...


The same thing could be said about John Kerry, or any number of politicians.

So... Bush is actually a compromiser and not at all someone who does what they feel is right and good, as was one of his major campaign themes.

Seems like he has his oil well and is filling his car up with it too. (okay, lame take on the have a cake line...)