Pat Robertson

[Lynn7]

I cna't beleive no one has posted about Robertson's comments today- they are all over the news. He said that he thought we should assassinate the leader of Venezuala.

Does anyone think we should ever assassinate a leader of another country? Wouldn't it be cleaner than starting a war?

I don't agree with Robertson and I think what he is saying is at odds with his beliefs. I will be interested to hear what other Christian leaders think about what he said, especially James Dobson who is also a political and religious leader in the Christian community. My guess is he will disagree with Robertson for having said this.

[Thrizzle]

Wow, i think the country is playing ideological limbo; 'How low can we go?!?'

[The Postmaster General]

I don't think assassination is something we should support. Of course it would be cleaner - but so would lots of other things that just aren't proper for a influential country like America.

We should get the Panamanians to do it for us.

Seriously - we are about trials, not blowing someones brains to the wall. If we were like that, I'm sure Robertson would be up on the list to go.

Already his community is turning their back on this one. Bad move, Patti. You need to look for some new roomies. I hear James Baker has a spare room.

[outsyder]

The CIA is bored. They need SOMEthing to do.

[BorderEevilIII]

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Does anyone have this guys number?!?!?! Cuz Pat is makin us Americans look stoopider as we speak...
Pat needs to stick w/ what he does manning the 700 Club and SHUT DA FUK UP! :rolleyes:

[Mr-Blonde]

Guess he's just convieniently overlooking all that Bible stuff like "Turn the other cheek" and "Thou shalt not kill".

How anyone who calls themselves Christian can follow this moron is beyond me.
:o

[MacReady]

This shit is hilarious! (http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/televangelists/pat-robertson/)

And then there's China. Pat has business interests in the Communist nation. So when Robertson appeared on CNN defending China's forced-abortion policy, it didn't surprise veteran Pat watchers. Here's what he said: "Well, you know, I don't agree with it, but at the same time, they've got 1.2 billion people and they don't know what to do... If every family over there was allowed to have three or four children, the population would be completely unsustainable... so I think that right now they're doing what they have to do."

It's like The Daily Show pointed out the other night: he's almost like a milliant christian policeman who can be bribed into "looking away from the bible" whenver somebody does somthing against it's rules so long as you brie first. He's kinda like Harvey Keitel in Bad Lieutenant.

[electriclite]

Originally posted by Lynn7
I cna't beleive no one has posted about Robertson's comments today- they are all over the news. He said that he thought we should assassinate the leader of Venezuala.

Does anyone think we should ever assassinate a leader of another country? Wouldn't it be cleaner than starting a war?



No, because that would be international terrorism, something we're supposed to be against. And considering the history of US interference in South America, its amazing we don't have hispanic terrorists in this country.

How this guy can say shit like that and call himself a Christian is beyond me.



Politics and Religion: Do Not Mix. Highly Unstable.

[outsyder]

Originally posted by MacReady
This shit is hilarious! (http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/televangelists/pat-robertson/)



It's like The Daily Show pointed out the other night: he's almost like a milliant christian policeman who can be bribed into "looking away from the bible" whenver somebody does somthing against it's rules so long as you brie first. He's kinda like Harvey Keitel in Bad Lieutenant.


He's a lobbyist. Big flippin surprise.

[Cyclonus]

My lord, look at this:

Robertson also has said that feminism encourages women to "kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians"; warned Orlando, Fla., that God might send hurricanes its way if Disney World continued to recognize gay pride events; said he considered liberal judges a more serious threat to America than "a few bearded terrorists who fly into buildings"; prayed for God to create vacancies on the Supreme Court; called Mohammed, the Muslim prophet, a "robber and brigand"; and defended Liberian warlord Charles Taylor.

This guy seems more like a parody of a Christian Fundamentalist. :o

(Source: http://www.jsonline.com/news/nat/aug05/350501.asp)

[MacReady]

Originally posted by outsyder
He's a lobbyist. Big flippin surprise.

He's also devoid of integrity.

[JohnTheHenchman]

What's the big deal?

He called for an assasaination. He has no power to do so. OMG he said something very bad!

[Lynn7]

It's tricky when a Christian leader espouses stuff like this. Ont he one hand, we can say he has the right to free speech but on the other hand people look to him to represent the faith he talks about. I remember Billy Graham once said that the one thing he really feared is that he might do something to disgrace God someday. So far he is doing well but you never know. Most of the Christian and Jewish greats have fallen though so Pat is in good company. :D

[BorderEevilIII]

Pat indeed has his freedom of speech but what he is talking about makes me think he should be taken away.....

FOR GOOD!
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But i'd LOVE to see a re-repeat of this happen again and see Mr. Robertson confess on national TV :D

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[electriclite]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
What's the big deal?

He called for an assasaination. He has no power to do so. OMG he said something very bad!

Just pointing out the hypocrisy. :D

......And the fact that he's just joined the hallowed ranks of those muslim clerics who get on the news for calling for "the blood of infidels".

Personally, I don't give a shit what televangelists say but every so often something comes out of their mouths that makes me wonder if God looks down and goes "Jesus Christ!" ;)

Good to know that he's getting a good backlash. Might just knock him off that lofty pedastal of his, or at the very least knock some sense into him.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
What's the big deal?

He called for an assasaination. He has no power to do so. OMG he said something very bad!

Yeah, it's totally normal and exceptable for a evangelist who represents a religion based on compassion to call for the killing of somebody who refuses to play ball with U.S. power.

Did I mention he's a fucking coward? (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9047102/)

[JohnTheHenchman]

So wait...

He's bad for calling for this leader's murder

and then he's still bad becase he apologized.

Why does his title have to dictate his behavior?

[MacReady]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
He's bad for calling for this leader's murder

and then he's still bad becase he apologized.

Why does his title have to dictate his behavior?

He's bad because he's calling for the death of a democratically elected president that hasn't killed anyone.

He's bad because now he's backtracking and using such lame excuses like refering to his 'taking him out of power' "it could of meant a number of like kidnapping" (despite the fact that's also bad and he clearly said he wanted death).

His comment for someone of his title are about as appropriate as the U.S. ambassador to China saying "I hate chinks".

[JohnTheHenchman]

No they're not.

Do you really know anything about christianity? It seems like you don't.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
No they're not.

Do you really know anything about christianity? It seems like you don't.

Oh, so it's apparently okay for them to call for acts of terrorism?

How is this appropriate?

And I know alot about christianity. It's Robertson who's confused as to what Jesus preached about.

[JohnTheHenchman]

So if you know a lot about christianity, you'd know that people sin?

And that sinners can then ask for forgiveness?

Or is this something you don't acknowledge

[MacReady]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
So if you know a lot about christianity, you'd know that people sin?

And that sinners can then ask for forgiveness?

Or is this something you don't acknowledge

The bible says that yes, it's expects you to sin.

However, it also says you're not supposed these things in the first place. "Thou shalt not kill" and all that jazz.

You can murder somebody and have the family forgive you, but you'll still be an asshole for having done it at the end of the day.

[JohnTheHenchman]

He didn't murder anyone.

I suppose you're holding Alec Baldwin's calling for the stoning death of Henry Hyde to the same standard?

[Lynn7]

Originally posted by MacReady
The bible says that yes, it's expects you to sin.

However, it also says you're not supposed these things in the first place. "Thou shalt not kill" and all that jazz.

You can murder somebody and have the family forgive you, but you'll still be an asshole for having done it at the end of the day.

I think it is disappointing that he said it but I do not beleive he is a bad man. He does so many good things in the world. He has a great organization called Operation Blessing that helps the poor by giving them food, clothes and even passes out fans in the heat of the summer to people who might die from the heat. They take poor kids out to buy brand new back to school clothes so they do not feel inferior to anyone else. They are also actively helping the poor in other countires especially recently with TSunami relief. He does more good in the world than most people.

His comment was wrong from a Christian standpoint and he recognizes it but even though he had a thought like that he was coming from a place that maybe thousands of deaths could be avoided by taking out one man. I've heard that thought expressed before regarding Hitler and CAstro. I think we have all thought at some point why should all the little people die in these wars when it is really one man in power who is causing all the problems. It would be nice to remove that one person but that would begin a chain reaction that would lead to our leaders getting picked off. It's just a bad idea all around.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
He didn't murder anyone.

Neither did Chavez, apparently.

And I didn't say he did. This is about him calling for the death of a guy who hasn't really done anything worthy of execution. He's a goddamn news show owner who's religion's most famous rule involves not killing people and here he is suggesting we off a man in control of a country simply because he won't inhale the cock of your infallible but highly unpopular leader.

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
I suppose you're holding Alec Baldwin's calling for the stoning death of Henry Hyde to the same standard?

Henry Hyde is a crooked son of a bitch, but Alec's an idiot if he said that. However I'm a skeptical as to what it really alluded to as stoning to death sounds cartoony. It's still too extreme.

Let me ask you something: why are you so obsessed with defending a man who wants to make your ideology illegal to teach in school (probably in public too) and sais something along the lines that people like you should be sent to gas chambers?



Originally posted by Lynn7
I think it is disappointing that he said it but I do not beleive he is a bad man. He does so many good things in the world. He has a great organization called Operation Blessing that helps the poor by giving them food, clothes and even passes out fans in the heat of the summer to people who might die from the heat. They take poor kids out to buy brand new back to school clothes so they do not feel inferior to anyone else. They are also actively helping the poor in other countires especially recently with TSunami relief. He does more good in the world than most people.

Another guy on another forum wrote:

"He uses money from mid western fundies to run diamond mines in Africa. That's like DC comic book evil."

Originally posted by Lynn7
His comment was wrong from a Christian standpoint and he recognizes it but even though he had a thought like that he was coming from a place that maybe thousands of deaths could be avoided by taking out one man. I've heard that thought expressed before regarding Hitler and CAstro. I think we have all thought at some point why should all the little people die in these wars when it is really one man in power who is causing all the problems. It would be nice to remove that one person but that would begin a chain reaction that would lead to our leaders getting picked off. It's just a bad idea all around.

Fidel Castro? That guys' living on a tiny little island, surronding by a country with a far superior millitary, that hates his guts and has been putting him in an embargo and now that his cold war ally has gone under his economy's on the ropes. Who's he a threat to anyway? There's been human rights abuses here and there in Cuba, but why are you shaking in your boots?

[JohnTheHenchman]

Why do I defend him?

It's a little something called free speech.

I believe in it even when I disagree with what's said!

CRAZY!

[MacReady]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
Why do I defend him?

It's a little something called free speech.

I believe in it even when I disagree with what's said!

CRAZY!

You must have misunderstood me.

He has the right to say what he wants, however all I'm saying is this is an idiotic and inappropriate statement. However he may have to face legal issues as this might fall under the category of a death threat. Anyway I don't care what happens to him. I was just saying that he shouldn't of said that, not that he shouldn't be allowed to say it.