Cindy Sheehan again!

[Lynn7]

From Drudgereport:

CINDY SHEEHAN CALLS FOR U.S TO 'PULL OUR TROOPS OUT OF OCCUPIED NEW ORLEANS'
Mon Sep 12 2005 12:42:11 ET

Celebrity anti-war protester, fresh off inking a lucrative deal with Speaker's Bureau, has demanded at the HUFFINGTON POST and MICHAEL MOORE'S website that the United States military must immediately leave 'occupied' New Orleans.

"I don't care if a human being is black, brown, white, yellow or pink. I donÕt care if a human being is Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, or pagan. I don't care what flag a person salutes: if a human being is hungry, then it is up to another human being to feed him/her. George Bush needs to stop talking, admit the mistakes of his all around failed administration, pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and Iraq, and excuse his self from power. The only way America will become more secure is if we have a new administration that cares about Americans even if they donÕt fall into the top two percent of the wealthiest."

Sheehan is in the middle of a bus trip across America in support of her cause.

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Just becasue she is protesting, does that mean she is a valid spokesman for the cause.? If she is saying stuff like this, I think they should pull her back (reign her in)

[Tuukka]

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[JohnTheHenchman]

She's not valid at all. Just this last week she had a rally one town over from here. 9 people showed up. 9 people.

[Criminal Rock]

What she’s asking for is like asking the world to stop spinning, and I don’t get that…

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Whether or not you agree with her cause or not, you have to admit that she has more of a right to protest than anyone else, since she actually lost something from the war. It's amazing how many people I see on television slandering her. It shouldn't be a partisan thing at all. If I ever got in an argument with a pro-war mother who lost her son, I'd be abliged to concede since her opinion has more credibility than mine.

In other words, let Cindy Sheehan do her thing, since other than that she doesn't have a lot left in this world.

Now that I've got that off my chest, I sort of agree. This isn't really the kind of thing she should be protesting. She was really getting some attention with that whole Crawford incident, she's just screwing her cause.

[someguy]

I think she screwed up what she was saying there since there are hungry people in New Orleans. It's still a funny quote though. She's still a selfish woman and the people protesting against her are as dumb as her, if not dumber.

[JohnTheHenchman]

Nah, they're definitely smarter!

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
Nah, they're definitely smarter!

Yeah, who cares what a war mother has to say, right? Pro war country musicians and people who drive giant gas guzzlers are the only people who have good views about Iraq.

[JohnTheHenchman]

What is a war mother?

Is that like a war monger?

[Brando @$$ Fat]

No, but thats one helluva badass term for a war monger.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by JohnTheHenchman
What is a war mother?

Is that like a war monger?

A mother who has/had/lost/will have a child in a war.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
In other words, let Cindy Sheehan do her thing, since other than that she doesn't have a lot left in this world.


The ads that show up in your text say she can have as many DVDs she wants for only 18 dollars a month.

Cindy, turn that frown upside down. ;)

[Lynn7]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
Whether or not you agree with her cause or not, you have to admit that she has more of a right to protest than anyone else, since she actually lost something from the war. It's amazing how many people I see on television slandering her. It shouldn't be a partisan thing at all. If I ever got in an argument with a pro-war mother who lost her son, I'd be abliged to concede since her opinion has more credibility than mine.

In other words, let Cindy Sheehan do her thing, since other than that she doesn't have a lot left in this world.

Now that I've got that off my chest, I sort of agree. This isn't really the kind of thing she should be protesting. She was really getting some attention with that whole Crawford incident, she's just screwing her cause.

I realize that she is in mournign for her son. I do feel bad she is separated from him (hopefully, they will be reunited in the next world) but I don't think that just cause someone has lost someone that they have more credibibltiy on an issue than people who have not. for instance, right now, the Iraqi people are under terrible attack by sociopaths who have invaded their country. Just this week someone drove a car up and called people over as if he was offering them jobs and then blew everyone up with a bomb. These people are trying to get up on their feet and rebuild their country and evil people are slaughtering them in the streets.Are we really supposed to leave them like that, before they are ready to defend themselves.Would't that be cruel?

Iraqis are people too and once we went in to help you just can't leave them becasue people are tired of war. That would be like firemen not rescuing everyone from a burning building because some firefighers have perished. Oh, Jeo Green the fireman just died fighting the fire and his mother says we should not be there fighting the fire anymore cause some more firemen could get killed. Dangerous professions = firefighters, police, soldiers, bomb squads, many other occupations are dangerous. The people who sign up for these duties know what they are facing before they go. Police know at any moment they might not come home alive and yet it is really hard to get a police job cause people line up in droves to take on those jobs.

[C-Desecration-]

I really don't think people see it that way, lynn. If everyone did it's pretty clear that your side is much better than the rest, but that's not how it's going down. People don't believe we're doing this great good . . . but want to pull out cause it's so gosh-darned tiring. You're over-simplying things in your favor, same as others when they make the war out to be some complete and utter 100% waste of time that was done out of selfishness in our government.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by Lynn7
I realize that she is in mournign for her son. I do feel bad she is separated from him (hopefully, they will be reunited in the next world) but I don't think that just cause someone has lost someone that they have more credibibltiy on an issue than people who have not. for instance, right now, the Iraqi people are under terrible attack by sociopaths who have invaded their country. Just this week someone drove a car up and called people over as if he was offering them jobs and then blew everyone up with a bomb. These people are trying to get up on their feet and rebuild their country and evil people are slaughtering them in the streets.Are we really supposed to leave them like that, before they are ready to defend themselves.Would't that be cruel?

Why didn't you find it cruel when your forces killed thousands of them when the war started?

Originally posted by Lynn7
Iraqis are people too and once we went in to help you just can't leave them becasue people are tired of war. That would be like firemen not rescuing everyone from a burning building because some firefighers have perished. Oh, Jeo Green the fireman just died fighting the fire and his mother says we should not be there fighting the fire anymore cause some more firemen could get killed. Dangerous professions = firefighters, police, soldiers, bomb squads, many other occupations are dangerous. The people who sign up for these duties know what they are facing before they go. Police know at any moment they might not come home alive and yet it is really hard to get a police job cause people line up in droves to take on those jobs.

First of all, your "let's keep this something that appears futile and ineffective which also take up human lives because otherwise it's a dishonour to the ones that didn't" can be destroyed with but a comic:

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/trall/2005/trall050825.gif

Second, in my opinion I can't see you guys winning this war. They'll just keeping coming at you in droves. You're slowly running out of troops (you didn't met your recruitment quotas) plus the recent disaster is soaking up your money at astonishing (did I mention the insurgents work for free?). Besides, the only reason there is slaughter is because you are there in the first place. Once you leave, they'll be peace.

As for your firemen metaphor, why didn't you add:

- The fact that the firemen insisted that it was orginally an earthquake that they were coming in for, but now it's a fire?

- The fact that the firemen have actually ended up killing alot of the people stuck in the building?

- The fact that the inhabitants of the building didn't want the firemen in the first place (neither did everybody else in the neighborhood) and continually ask them to leave?

[EVILxxx]

I saw this coming as soon as I read that CS wanted Isreal to pull out of the Gaza Strip. This isn't about her son, or about the 0ther mothers sons serving in Iraq right now, it's about how the left can best use her new found popularity to push their agenda any way they can.
Not don't get me wrong on Miss Sheehan. She probably went into her protest with the best intentions (hell it was only her by herself for almost a week until the media got to her), but then moveon.org. and the rest of them sunk their claws into her and have their arm firmly up her backside.

[Thrizzle]

Yea, i bet the left wing puppeteers made her say the National Gaurd shouldnt be in NO.

The only time i see Cindy Sheehan in the news, she's being criticized by right-wing pundits.

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by Thrizzle
Yea, i bet the left wing puppeteers made her say the National Gaurd shouldnt be in NO.

The only time i see Cindy Sheehan in the news, she's being criticized by right-wing pundits.


"Sheehan is in the middle of a bus trip across America in support of her cause"

Who is funding this tour? The March of Dimes?

[someguy]

Maybe the money she got from her son's death is funding it






oooohhhhhhhhh

[JohnTheHenchman]

Someguy, that's going too far!

[outsyder]

Originally posted by someguy
Maybe the money she got from her son's death is funding it






oooohhhhhhhhh

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4235/tha40d06f13pg.gif

[Thrizzle]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
"Sheehan is in the middle of a bus trip across America in support of her cause"

Who is funding this tour? The March of Dimes?

Yea, they are funding her bus trip to get her original message across. The NO comment was just something the media reports on to make her look like a nutcase and discredit her entire movement, its not something orchestrated by the "left".

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by Thrizzle
Yea, they are funding her bus trip to get her original message across. The NO comment was just something the media reports on to make her look like a nutcase and discredit her entire movement, its not something orchestrated by the "left".

Well you can also tack it up with her Isreal/ Plaestine comments as well. The woman clearly lost sight of why she even started the protest. If she was truly passionate about her cause she would stick to the War in Iraq. Now she seems to be tacking every liberal talking point.
And since she did say that comment on New Orleans I would classify her in the "nutcase" catergory.

[Thrizzle]

My main point would be that she does not speak for most liberals, because some of her opinions are far left (or off the map completely). If people start to see her as a representative of liberalism, this whole movemant backfired bigtime.

Well played GOP; well played indeed! You ol' dogs have done it again!

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by Thrizzle
My main point would be that she does not speak for most liberals, because some of her opinions are far left (or off the map completely). If people start to see her as a representative of liberalism, this whole movemant backfired bigtime.

Well played GOP; well played indeed! You ol' dogs have done it again!

Fair enough. I realize she does not speak for all or even most liberals, but from what it looks like to me she is being coached by the far left. Pretty soon she is going to be talking about the budget, and gay marriage, and so forth.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
Fair enough. I realize she does not speak for all or even most liberals, but from what it looks like to me she is being coached by the far left. Pretty soon she is going to be talking about the budget, and gay marriage, and so forth.

An ani-Sheenan cartoon from a liberal writer. (http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/2005/08/27/)

An anti-Sheenan rant from one of the most liberal people in the net. (http://ruthlessreviews.com/rants/matt/fuckmoms.html)

And we all remember what someguy said about her earlier.

As for her future as a left-wing puppet, the Hurricane has knocked her out of the front pages and now she'll be about as renowned as another amateur blogger.

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by MacReady
An ani-Sheenan cartoon from a liberal writer. (http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/2005/08/27/)

An anti-Sheenan rant from one of the most liberal people in the net. (http://ruthlessreviews.com/rants/matt/fuckmoms.html)

And we all remember what someguy said about her earlier.

As for her future as a left-wing puppet, the Hurricane has knocked her out of the front pages and now she'll be about as renowned as another amateur blogger.

Wow there's 3 out. . . 30000. Ofcourse alot of liberals don't listen to what Sheehan has to say, because they look into the story. It is not a matter of left wing, right wing, it is just common sense. However radicals from both sides can invoke sympathy/support/etc. Bush's approval rating is moving closer and closer to Nixon's numbers, and the less support Bush has the more support the anti-war moviement has. The anti-war movement have a face, and now it has one in Cindy Sheehan. They ust don't seem to realize that if they stuck more with the facts i.e. causualty numbers of American soldiers and Iraqi civilians more people would listen.

[The Postmaster General]

EVILxxx -

I listen to AIR AMERICAN RADIO, which is a somewhat Liberal radio station.... ;)

Do you know how many times I've heard Sheehan mentioned in the past couple days? None. They may have mentioned her in the past week, but I don't remember. All in all, they give Sheehan very little press, with the exception when the story first came out.

The only time I hear her mentioned is on these boards, and boy do I hear her mentioned.

Here is Air America's main page

http://www.airamericaradio.com/

Not a mention Sheehan anywhere.

But of course that is just one LIberal Talk Radio Station out of... Well... one.

There are extremists on both sides, that doens't mean anyone thinks they represent the group. You know that.

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
EVILxxx -

I listen to AIR AMERICAN RADIO, which is a somewhat Liberal radio station.... ;)

Do you know how many times I've heard Sheehan mentioned in the past couple days? None. They may have mentioned her in the past week, but I don't remember. All in all, they give Sheehan very little press, with the exception when the story first came out.

The only time I hear her mentioned is on these boards, and boy do I hear her mentioned.

Here is Air America's main page

http://www.airamericaradio.com/

Not a mention Sheehan anywhere.

But of course that is just one LIberal Talk Radio Station out of... Well... one.

There are extremists on both sides, that doens't mean anyone thinks they represent the group. You know that.

I do know that, and I said that. I was refering more towards the moveon.org whose whole deal is "If it's bad for Bush it's good for us". I'm not saying she has the full support of the left who all give her support. I am simply saying that somebody is funding her tour, and if I had one guess I would say they weren't conservatives.

[The Postmaster General]

moveon.org is a pretty decent organization, but yes, their sole purpose is to destroy Bush, well at least politically. I have several close friends who have volunteered for them, going out and getting unregistered voters to vote -- However, they were prohibited from pushing any candidate -- Unless of course they were asked.

It seems that since the election, the orgnaization has changed somewhat, IMO -- somewhat more pushy from what I'm seeing in the news. I guess that's what they are down to now because influencing the election didn't help, so they've sort of turned into the HARD COPY of activists' groups.

I never volunteered myself just because I have an principal about knocking on strangers doors -- Well, at least that's what I said. My friends wouldn't shut up about it being about me not wanting get up early Saturdays.

Of course, I'd always say, "Well, if I like to sleep in on Saturdays, why would I want to wake people up on Saturdays.' Then they mostly get pissed, but we'd share beers and straws -- all was fine in the end. Except for those pesky spiders that weren't really there.