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Lynn7
09-23-2005, 08:23 AM
Posted 9/22/2005 10:46 PM
Iraqis wonder what price they'll pay in Katrina's wake
By Steven Komarow, USA TODAY

BAGHDAD — The Gulf of Mexico is 7,000 miles away, but Iraqis are worried about hurricanes Katrina and Rita: They fear the storms will divert U.S. money and attention from Iraq.
"Our hearts and our prayers are with the victims," Planning Minister Barham Saleh says. "But one should also keep in mind the importance of reconstruction in Iraq. You cannot leave Iraq alone, because failure is not an option here."

A USA TODAY/CNN Poll last week showed that a majority of Americans give the war effort a low priority compared to domestic needs. Asked for the best way to pay for Hurricane Katrina damage, 54% recommend cutting spending for the Iraq war.

The hurricanes come at a time when money for Iraq's reconstruction is running low. Congress approved $18.4 billion in 2003, but $5 billion was later set aside to rebuild Iraq's military and police.

Security costs are eating into the rest. Projects are being scaled back even though needs remain, James Jeffrey, a State Department adviser, recently told a congressional panel.

President Bush said Thursday that he is committed to both Iraq and rebuilding storm-damaged parts of the USA: "What's a priority for me is to win this war on terror and secure the country and to help the people down there (on the Gulf Coast)."

Congress may balk at additional Iraq funding requests if they're also facing large bills for rebuilding hurricane damage, including as much as $200 billion to rebuild from Katrina alone.

Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, ranking Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, said Thursday that both parties will have to make painful decisions about their top spending priorities. "People are going to have to make choices," he said. "How it all plays out I'm not smart enough to know, but I'm worried."

Amina Juma'a, a 35-year-old Baghdad homemaker and mother of four, says she watched Bush touring the areas damaged by Hurricane Katrina and was stunned by the "clean and beautiful areas" where evacuees were resettled.

"Why can't he do that in Iraq?" she asks.

The Postmaster General
09-23-2005, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Lynn7


"Why can't he do that in Iraq?" she asks.


Two words lady: Suicide Bombers.

MacReady
09-23-2005, 01:45 PM
I was gonna go and find an article about Iraqis protesting the occupation in a childish "oh yeah! Well I'll show you!" kinda way, but then I thought up a better and more neutral approach, can anybody find me a survey out there that shows (currently) which amount of Iraqis want the U.S. out and which ones still want them in?

Criminal Rock
09-23-2005, 04:17 PM
I'm just going to post a few, maybe you'll find your answer in there somewhere.

here (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/GoodMorningAmerica/Iraq_anniversary_poll_040314.html)

Here (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-04-28-poll-cover_x.htm)

here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A22403-2004May12?language=printer)

C-Desecration-
09-23-2005, 04:29 PM
Well those last two polls look grim, don't they.
I'm not aware if those are bias sources, that side liberal, but if they aren't, it looks pretty clear. They don't want us there anymore. I'd like to think Bush isn't stupid enough to be so one-sided, because going into something like this with one viewpoint and years later refusing to change that viewpoint is stupid. I don't care how right you were. There are always unexpected faces popping up, and a smarter person would try to adjust to those.

Or are we adjusting? I don't know, it seems like we;re remaining stiff and rigid, unbending. Which is great if we're talking about terrorism, but we're not. We're talking about civilians, and occupying their lands.

Criminal Rock
09-23-2005, 07:39 PM
What I find interesting is that only 7% of the interviewed base their opinions on what they’ve personally experienced, and the other 93% base their opinions on what they here from Al-Jazeera, Al-Arabiya, and the good ol' classic... gossip.

Here’s a snippet from the second source:

Secondhand information

That negative opinion of the behavior of the troops rarely is based on direct contact. Iraq is a country the size of California with a population of 25 million. Many areas are sparsely patrolled. Only 7% in the poll say they based their opinions on personal experience.

Instead, Iraqis get their information from others. For about a third, it's pan-Arabic television such as the Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya satellite news channels. The networks frequently show scenes of U.S. forces shooting into Iraqi neighborhoods in hot spots such as Fallujah, an anti-American stronghold in the center of the country. (Related poll results: Baghdad: Then and now)

Although most Iraqis watch the local, U.S.-sponsored broadcast television station, which doesn't require a satellite dish, Iraqis in the poll say the Arab satellite networks are the most trusted and break the hottest stories. Few Iraqis trust Western networks such as CNN and the BBC.

More news is spread through that oldest delivery system: marketplace chatter. In the rumor mill, interviews indicate, every confrontation between Americans and Iraqis is portrayed as an assault on the Iraqi people, not on just a few lawless insurgents.

Jalal Abbas, 20, a student in Baghdad, says it's widely believed "that when soldiers search houses, they steal gold and money. And in our houses, people are taking special (precautions) to hide their money and gold for fear of them being stolen by U.S. soldiers."

The Postmaster General
09-23-2005, 08:02 PM
Well, if the aftermash of a hurricane in America has taught the Bush supporters one thing, it's that Iraqi's really like this war.