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HannibalGuy
09-25-2005, 09:09 PM
discipline (n.) - 1. Training expected to produce a specific character or pattern of behavior. 2. Controlled behavior from such training. 3. A state of order based on submission to rules and authority. 4. A set of rules or methods.

principle (n.) - 1. A basic truth. 2. A rule or standard. 3. Moral or ethical standards or judgments. 4. A basic source.

Fundamentally, methodologies - to become practicable - are composed by structuring an outline determining principles that are to be practiced, acting as rules, so to speak. Henceforth, the practice [of principles] is intended to be disciplined in it's nature.

Fitting to Warriorism, one has no choice about the necessity of principle. Man has no choice about the essentiality to integrate his experiences, and subsequent knowledge into abstract ideas, i.e., principles. Hence, principles are an absolute. The only choice one has [in regards to principles] is whether these choices are true or false. Whether they represent conscious rational convictions - or a smorgasbord of invalid, random sources built upon context which leads to consequences one does not know. It is discipline that will lead man to be principled in truth.

Presentation of effects depends on action. Any and all effort producing effectual behavior depends on an applied action of discipline. Destrucity, reality-based and rational, recognizes this absolute. Doing so, shows us the nonproficiency of seeing the action of discipline [the act of discipline] as different from the product of discipline [a discipline]. Making discipline, in reference, both, the action and content - literally, one in the same - constantly reinforces the ideas we have agreed to practice so we can accomplish and succeed.

Any time man exchanges a devitalizing habit for a productive, beneficial discipline he will be tempted by conditions he has long practiced. To create concrete change, he must hold himself accountable when he surrenders to the temptations. Discipline, and the idea of it works here, as well. For, discipline connotes punishment too. If, when one reneges on his discipline of discipline(s), he is met mentally with the implication of, once again, discipline, he will keep foked, distinctively and prominently, on the concept of discipline.

Conscientiously, the constant influence of the concept of discipline forbears one's desire to rationalize his faltering and he will subjugate to the commitment he has made to discipline. For just as discipline denotes all the previously mentioned contexts, it also manifests an idea of strength and strong-willedness, empowering him to be just as he thinks. Once again, drawing us back into a impenetrable foke.

An aggressive, active, inexorable application of the concept of discipline. Passivity has ruled long enough in my book and it has no place in the way of warrior. A proclivity towards cutting oneself slack, as it pertains to the discipline of discipline, has no place when one sets forth creating their own, unique idea of Destrucity.

Seeing the world literally strengthens your commitment and stiffens the actuality of your resolve. Rampant repetitiveness of avowed dogma, and it's inherent dogmatic principles are futile, and certainly no guarantee of any success beyond the fabulous daydreaming you accomplish.

To become -- ACT AS IF. Any principle one chooses to adopt, and consequently emulate, must be suffused with the causality of discipline.

MacReady
09-25-2005, 10:04 PM
http://www.life.uiuc.edu/plantbio/260/dispersal/15a-Wind-tumbleweed.jpg

Jon Lyrik
09-25-2005, 10:06 PM
I consider myself to be an intelligent person.

But what?

someguy
09-25-2005, 10:09 PM
needs less of this

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/6855/thesaurus3ho.jpg

Seriously, why all the extreme use of 'sophisticated' words?

outsyder
09-25-2005, 11:21 PM
In keeping with the tradition of pictures . . .

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/01/13/don_king,0.jpg

This guy doesn't even know what you said.

Criminal Rock
09-26-2005, 04:34 AM
http://www.funfry.com/data/870/2Funny-Man-Picture006-FunFry_com.jpg

This guy Luuuuuvs hamburger helpers... And so do I.

C-Desecration-
09-26-2005, 09:26 AM
Well now I have a headache because I took the stupid time not to glaze over and tried to read it.
What's funny is that one, this has nothing to do with anything (I mean it, why the hell did you post this here?), and two, it's intellectual tail-chasing. . . wait, it's not even that. I mean take the time to read it, try to ignore the growing headache, and . . .well I mean jesus, just look at this:

Discipline, and the idea of it works here, as well. For, discipline connotes punishment too. If, when one reneges on his discipline of discipline(s), he is met mentally with the implication of, once again, discipline, he will keep foked, distinctively and prominently, on the concept of discipline.

It's like he took the definition] of discipline/principle and decided to make a rambling thesus of it. What the hell?

BubbaStrangelove
09-26-2005, 05:38 PM
Okay, so I've never heard the word 'destrucity' before. I did a wikipedia search, and came up empty. A dictionary.com search - nada.

But a google search listed this page first:

http://www.ultimatewarrior.com/SoulDP.htm


The page is word-for-word what Hannibalguy posted.

On the main page for this, it has a disclaimer:


All Ultimate Warrior & Warrior Trademarks and Copyrights are Reserved 1997 - 2005 Ultimate Creations, Inc.

WarriorWeb is NOT associated with Titan Sports or the World Wrestling Federation/Entertainment


Notice how I put other people's work in quotes and/or italics as to not lead other people to believe it was my own work. I also included a link to the original work. Here's another link of interest: http://matcmadison.edu/is/writingcenter/plagarism.htm


[This BubbaStrangelove message was 667 characters out of the maximum alloted 20,000. An extra character was added to avoid the 'sign of the devil' and characters counted in this disclaimer were not counted, because this post is already funny enough.]

C-Desecration-
09-26-2005, 05:45 PM
Since inspector gadget up there did some digging, maybe he can help me out, because I'm . . . confused.
What exactly is going on?

BubbaStrangelove
09-26-2005, 05:50 PM
http://www.wrestlingmuseum.com/images/models/hulkhogan.jpg


WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN DESTRUCITY RUNS LOOSE ON YOU!!!!

HannibalGuy
09-26-2005, 06:11 PM
Yes, this is from the Ultimate Warrior's website. I decided not to mention it becuase most would think I'm insane posting one of Warrior's essays. And long behold, you all did :)

BubbaStrangelove
09-26-2005, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by HannibalGuy
Yes, this is from the Ultimate Warrior's website. I decided not to mention it becuase most would think I'm insane posting one of Warrior's essays. And long behold, you all did :)


Honestly - I think you would have gotten more slack had you said where it was from. At least that way people would have known what they were getting into.

The essay actually makes an interesting read - maybe if you translated a bit into your own words, people would take it more seriously, because as it is - it's much too stylized to be taken as so.

Hannibal - Why don't you apply Ultimate Warrior's musings onto the Bush Administrations Homeland Security Bill, or maybe onto the Clinton Impeachment Trials - Surely it could be applied accordingly.