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NightStalkerGtx
10-04-2005, 05:50 PM
Domino
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Directed by: Tony Scott (Man on Fire)

Written by: Richard Kelly

Cast: Keira Knightley, Mickey Rourke, Mena Suvari, Delroy Lindo, Lucy Liu, ETC

Genre: Action, Thriller

MPAA Rating: R (for strong violence, pervasive language, sexual content/nudity and drug use)

Website- www.dominomovie.com

OCTOBER 14 2005 (WIDE)

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Plot-Based on the true story of Domino Harvey, the daughter of actor Laurence Harvey, a former Ford model, who rejected her life in Beverly Hills to become a bounty hunter, (She died This year so maybe they added something extra to the movie)

http://www.joblo.com/big-movie-images/picdomino-v2.jpg

What do you guys think? I will be there opening weekend, I loved Man on Fire and this movie looks truely amazing and will most likely end up being one of the years best, every single trailer is fantastic!

MadsenOMC
10-04-2005, 05:58 PM
I'm seeing this on Thursday night. I love True Romance, but other than that I'm not a huge fan of Tony Scott. I didn't like Man on Fire and this looks even worse to me. Tries way too hard to be cool, in my opinion. Trailers with Keira's voiceover have been extremely annoying. Looks like it goes overboard with the hyper-editing, much like Man on Fire did.

NightStalkerGtx
10-04-2005, 06:04 PM
u really think that, I loved Man on Fire, but this looks better and the trailers look fantastic and for some reason i am digging Keira's voice over, The trailer looks like the movie will have so much to offer and hopefully it does.

NightStalkerGtx
10-04-2005, 06:05 PM
When u say thursday night u mean this thursday coming up or the one b4 the movie is released?

MadsenOMC
10-04-2005, 06:07 PM
I mean this Thursday, as in October 5th.

NightStalkerGtx
10-04-2005, 06:09 PM
LUCKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If u can write a review for it once u see it that would be awsome!

MadsenOMC
10-04-2005, 06:13 PM
Oh you know I will. :)

NightStalkerGtx
10-04-2005, 06:17 PM
hopefully you like it more then Man on Fire and enjoy it have fun thursday night!

optimus1
10-04-2005, 06:55 PM
This movie looks decent , anything with Keira in it intrigues me..I think she is a fine actress and what a hottie. I hope its good , its nice to see Mickey in movies again he was excellent in Sin City.

optimus1
10-04-2005, 06:56 PM
By the way , I loved Man on Fire..

Moviefan1234
10-04-2005, 07:00 PM
DOMINO is one of those movies I want to be good, but I'm quite worried it won't be. I think the premise sounds great, and I love all the actors involved. I just hope Tony Scott doesn't give me a feeling of sickness like he did with the strange subtitles in MAN ON FIRE. Right now I'm optimistic that I'll love it, I really want to love it. We'll see.

Moviefan02000
10-04-2005, 07:46 PM
Last time threads weren't supposed to be made until the movie comes out in ONE WEEK not a week and a half.

NightStalkerGtx
10-04-2005, 10:18 PM
^ shit happens

ANTBond007
10-05-2005, 01:05 AM
I'm seeing Domino tonight at 7:30. For some reason the trailers haven't really engaged me, but I'm still hoping for the best.

ilovemovies
10-05-2005, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Looks like it goes overboard with the hyper-editing, much like Man on Fire did.


That's what worries me. It looks like a very interesting story and it looks great except for the fact that it looks like the hyper editing looks like it will be just as bad as it was in Man on Fire, which very nearly ruined the entire movie for me.

Lazy Boy
10-05-2005, 01:49 AM
I like Keira's voice over in the trailers, for some reason. "My name is Domino Harvey. I AM a bounty hunter." She's got a wickedly playful bad girl voice.

Although, when everything is said and done, the movie might be high-cranked garbage, and Chris Walken might be the sole saving grace. "Use more numchucks!"

Cronos
10-05-2005, 04:32 AM
while it looks like it could be kinda fun in the trailer, ive never found Knightly to be a good lead

Moviefan1234
10-05-2005, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by ilovemovies
Which very nearly ruined the entire movie for me.

It completely did ruin it for me, which was a real shame because it was a touching story with some very good acting in it.

ANTBond007
10-06-2005, 03:04 AM
I'll give Domino a 6/10. I found most of the characters interesting, and the "plot" kept my attention -- mainly just putting pieces together. Scott's over-editing is worse than it's ever been, but it gives the movie a kenetic edge... until the final shootout, when we're supposed to care, but can't see a damn thing amidst his flash-cuts, slow motion shots, and everything in between.

Also, the flick feels a hell of a lot longer than it actually is at two hours. A good 30 minutes could probably have been trimmed without harming the flick at all.

NightStalkerGtx
10-06-2005, 09:53 AM
^ did they say anything about her death this year in the movie?

optimus1
10-06-2005, 10:42 AM
http://dominoharvey.truthbehindmovies.com/#autopsy

Pretty interesting , she was pretty hot so they did good casting Keira in the role.

ANTBond007
10-06-2005, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
^ did they say anything about her death this year in the movie?

Nope.

NightStalkerGtx
10-06-2005, 08:54 PM
thats wierd...

ANTBond007
10-06-2005, 09:27 PM
If you think it's weird now, keep it in your head during the movie's "happy ending."

MadsenOMC
10-07-2005, 01:55 PM
SPOILERS!!!!

How can a movie that is so incredibly loud and frenetic be so damn boring? Somehow, Domino pulls it off. Pretentious, overlong, excessively noisy, ridiculously stupid and painfully dull, it’s essentially a complete failure.

Though it seems to be a popular movie around here, I did not care much for Man on Fire. However, I don’t remember ever being bored, despite the long running time. Domino feels as if it’s at least a full hour longer than it actually is. There’s a serious lack of dramatic momentum, partially due to the decision to start at the end and then employ flashbacks. From the beginning on, it just plods along.

Domino doesn’t have any time for backstory. We learn that Domino Harvey (Keira Knightley) was the daughter of an actor who died when she was very young, did some professional modeling and got kicked out of college. She has a bad attitude and no patience for spoiled rich people (of which there is no shortage in Beverly Hills). That’s about all we get, and it is covered in a matter of minutes.

Seeing a newspaper ad and seeking a little fun, Domino decides to become a bounty hunter. She pairs up with Ed (Mickey Rourke) and Choco (Edgar Ramirez), a team she meets at a seminar organized by bail bondsman Claremont Williams (Delroy Lindo).

The trio’s adventures are juxtaposed with Domino’s confession to an FBI Criminal Psychologist (Lucy Liu). $10 million has been stolen from an armored car that’s been abandoned at the Hoover Dam. That was only the beginning of a crazy 36 hours. To avoid a long prison term, Domino shares all that she knows.

The convoluted plot would be nearly impossible to coherently summarize, and I don’t want to give away everything. Let’s just say that it involves the $10 million, a reality TV show for the WB (produced by Christopher Walken) starring the trio and hosted by Ian Ziering and Brian Austin Green, four crooked DMV workers working for Claremont, four patsies (including a nymphomaniac and two teenage sons of a gangster), the gangster himself and the owner of the Stratosphere in Las Vegas.

That may sound insane enough to be fun, but it isn’t. Richard Kelly’s script is fractured and routine, diligently covering action movie clichés while failing to develop any interesting characters. Or anything interesting period for that matter.

The numerous shoot outs and action scenes are extremely redundant and uninvolving.
They have a “been there, done that” feel to them, as well as needlessly excessive slow motion and quick cutting. When are directors going to realize that this can’t compensate for or cover up a weak story? You can see right through it.

This is Tony Scott at his worst. His style of filmmaking is moronic. I had a constant headache thanks to his obnoxious directing. He uses all of his old tricks: title cards, slo-mo, crazy camera angles, rapid cutting and some reverse shots. Overkill would be a vast understatement here. It’s all virtually non-stop. Scott’s directing is so overbearing that even if there was a good story and screenplay, it would overpower them and drown them out. It’s distracting, to say the least.

The character development is nonexistent. Domino remains as much a mystery at the end as she did at the start. How the hell is she so good at fighting and using various weapons? She casually mentions training, but we never see any. Why did she do it in the first place, since she became a bounty hunter on a whim? I didn’t care about her at all. The FBI agent’s derogatory assessment of her (daddy issues and craving attention) seems completely accurate.

Ed and Choco are even more of a mystery. Two or three background details do not a character make. They’re standard action movie tough guys and nothing more.

The 90210 stunt casting is a case of trying way too hard. It is amusing for about 10 seconds, but when it becomes clear that these clowns aren’t going away and actually factor significantly into the story, it’s just annoying. Why bother? Is it supposed to be ironic or hip?

Walken and Lindo have small roles, especially Walken. He has a few minutes of screen time tops, and fails to make an impression. He’s “wacky,” of course. Rourke is fine, but it’s hardly a challenging role. He can do this in his sleep. Knightley is much better and more convincing than she was in The Jacket, but she still appears to be out of her element at times. And yes, she does show some skin in a completely gratuitous sex scene near the end of the movie.

There’s also an inexplicable and totally unnecessary segment that takes place on the Jerry Springer Show (he plays himself). One of the DMV workers goes on to share her ideas concerning a new way of looking at people of mixed race. Again, funny for about 10 seconds, but it gets dragged out and goes on and on, for no apparent reason. Should have been a deleted scene on the DVD.

Admittedly, there are a few good laughs scattered throughout, and the climactic action scene that takes place outside and inside of the Stratosphere offers up a few cool shots (though Scott’s direction ultimately all but ruins it).

But that’s about all Domino has going for it. It’s an instantly forgettable mess. A textbook example of all style and no substance. It even tacks on a happy ending and makes no mention of Domino’s recent death. Why the AICN boys have gushed over it is a mystery to me. Maybe they can’t bring themselves to bash Kelly (like most, I love Donnie Darko) or they couldn’t stop drooling over Knightley. Whatever the case, Domino is pretty terrible. At the beginning, we’re told that it’s “based on a true story, sort of.” The truth has to be a hell of a lot more interesting than this.

4/10

chinton
10-07-2005, 02:46 PM
Hated Man On Fire not looking forward to this

ANTBond007
10-07-2005, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Domino feels as if it’s at least a full hour longer than it actually is.

Oh God, yes. I've never more wished for a movie to be 80 minutes long. All though I have to rate it higher than you for one exchange:

Autograph Fan: My friend thought you were dead!
Ian Ziering: Tell your friend she's a whore.

Fidelio1st
10-07-2005, 09:27 PM
***SPOILER REVIEW***

DOMINO is very loosely based on the real life bounty hunter Domino Harvey. Domino is such an intriguing character, and Keira Knightley plays her perfectly (the accent adds to her appeal). Mickey Rourke plays Ed, her boss and mentor, and just like in SIN CITY, he's perfect for the role. But that's where the good parts end.

DOMINO is an utter failure because director Tony Scott tries to be the star. With all his flashy Oliver Stone-NATURAL BORN KILLERS MTV style editing and jolty movement of the camera, Scott never gives his actors the chance to act in a scene. He's too busy jump cutting, using a hand held camera, all over the place. There's only about one decent scene where Ed and Choco have a heart to heart.

Scott's direction seriously gave me a headache. And the story continues to go downhill, from the 2 has-been 90210 actors playing themselves entering the scene, to a highrise in Las Vegas getting shot to threads. How many times is Tony Scott going to end a film where everyone gathers at one place and has a big shoot out? He did it in TRUE ROMANCE, again in ENEMY OF THE STATE, and now in DOMINO. It's as if he's trying to make the same movie over and over again.

And DOMINO could have been so good, if he wouldn't have Hollywoodized it. And what's funny is, this isn't really a Hollywood type action film, because all the flash cutting and story telling techniques tries to make it seem arty. It really truly fails on all levels.

DOMINO is truly one of the worst films of the year, and that's sad because it had so much potential. If Scott would have stuck to more of the real life details, like making her a proud lesbian, this could have been a serious bounty hunter action film.

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An article about DOMINO:

'Domino' Blasted by Bounty Hunter
15 February 2005 (WENN)
Keira Knightley's new movie Domino has been slammed by real-life bounty hunter Domino Harvey for falsely portraying her sexuality in the film. The $57 million drama is inspired by Harvey, who abandoned a lucrative career on the London catwalk to chase some of the world's dangerous criminals for the Celes King Bail Bonds Agency in Los Angeles. But the 33-year-old former British model is furious she has been depicted as a heterosexual when in reality she is a proud lesbian, and has blasted producers New Line Cinema for not giving her the right to approve the script before shooting started. A source says, "Domino sees it as an insult that the producers are selling it as her life story, when they are completely overlooking what she regards as a pretty basic part of her life. She feels they have stolen her life from her and made it into the women that they want her to be rather than the woman she is. She thinks it's ironic that so much of the publicity the film has attracted has been based on it's raunchy sex scenes."

>>I read this before seeing the film. And about 2/3 of the film was over and I said to myself, they must have cut the sex scene discussed in the article. Because they're out in the desert now, and it would be totally ridiculous for them to start having sex.

Well sure enough, hyped up on mesculine, Domino and Choco go at it. Not very raunchy though. And definitely not worth the headache. What's funny is all the implications between Domino and Lucy Liu. Scott had no problem putting that in there, but felt he needed a raunchy sex scene with a man. The film was already ridiculous, I wouldn't have minded Domino jumping Lucy Liu right there on the table. Or vice versa. I've always had a thing for O-Ren.

Ender
10-08-2005, 07:32 PM
The problem with seeing so many movies is that I start to get these knee-jerk prejudgements anytime one reminds me of another. I look at the trailer for DOMNO and I think "Wow, this looks just like a dozen other fun-looking flicks that burned me in the end". To be honest, I hope this is just the case of a bad trailer, but the movie looks hyperactive, sloppy, and probably a touch dull, very much like AVALON, BALLISTIC, THE MOD SQUAD, and, most recently, A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE, all movies that I, admittedly for no truly apparent reason, found myself associating this movie with in my head.

moviegroupie
10-12-2005, 06:22 AM
I'm in the same boat as Madsen.

Hated Man on Fire, haven't seen his other works besides True Romance, which I liked.

This one, I fear, will be edited like MoF, but I hope it's still good.

The trailer looked really appealing, I guess Keira alone did.

MadsenOMC
10-13-2005, 04:46 PM
Well at least I don't feel like I'm on crazy pills with this one. Out of 23 reviews at rottentomatoes, only 3 are positive, for a rating of 16%. I imagine that number will go down before it goes up. Average rating is 3.6 out of 10. Getting exactly what it deserves. I expect a pretty poor performance from it this weekend.

The Heart Collector
10-13-2005, 07:14 PM
This movie looks retarded. Tony Scott is an idiot. Even True Romance ain't that good. Yeah, I said it.

Lazy Boy
10-13-2005, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by The Heart Collector
This movie looks retarded. Tony Scott is an idiot. Even True Romance ain't that good. Yeah, I said it.

The best thing about it is Tarantino's script -- definitely not Scott's direction. Still, though, those were the days when he was semi-normal with his shots and camera moves.

ilovemovies
10-14-2005, 01:33 AM
He use to make really good movies. The Last Boy Scout was a solid action flick. Crimson Tide is a great movie. But his downward spiral seems to have started with Spy Game, a movie which wasn't THAT bad as far as all the editing/camera "style" stuff but it was a mediocre movie for other reasons. But man, Man on Fire was a real headache of a movie and this looks possibly worse (as if that were possible).

daddiefatsacks
10-14-2005, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by The Heart Collector
This movie looks retarded. Tony Scott is an idiot. Even True Romance ain't that good. Yeah, I said it.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!

XCoRyX
10-14-2005, 09:43 AM
Definetly looks like one hell of a movie,sadly i'm broke as hell still and need to save up for an upcoming convention on top of that. But this will surely be seen by my eyes dammit!

LegionX
10-14-2005, 12:23 PM
well everyone...If you liked "Man On Fire" this one is right up your alley! This movie was fantastic in so many ways. The story was incredible, the story of how Domino became the bad ass that she is, the sotry of how she met her partners Ed, and Choco. How one of their biggest jobs turned into one of their worst nightmares! The way the film was shot, the colors, the camera angles and the editing was awsome! Edited just like "Man On Fire". Kiera Knightly surprised me with an outstanding performance, one that I had doubts originaly. She pulled it off and pulled it off brilliantly. Mickey Rourke (MARV) was what can I say....Mickey Rourke! and Edgar Ramirez played a good supporting role. The film was very gruesome, but very much ALIVE! The film kept me entertained throughout and to me one of the top 5 of the year. It contains all the elements of great Tony Scott film, Dark Humor, goore, Violence, Sex, and great Acting! A definete movie to check out this weekend, just maybe not a film to take your girlfriends to.... If thats the case you better see Elizabethtown. Great movie

9/10

Lazy Boy
10-14-2005, 01:51 PM
I just read a second (positive) blurb comparing this to Natural Born Killers. That has me worried; NBK was a piece of trash, but at least it was helmed by a good director. There's really no guarantee with Domino.

MadsenOMC
10-14-2005, 02:53 PM
NBK is the best movie ever made compared to Domino. For the life of me I can't understand how anyone could admire Scott's directing in it. Easily one of the worst directing jobs of the year.

slasherfan
10-14-2005, 03:09 PM
this movie is getting really good reviews in the uk.

ANTBond007
10-14-2005, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by LegionX
well everyone...If you liked "Man On Fire" this one is right up your alley! This movie was fantastic in so many ways. The story was incredible, the story of how Domino became the bad ass that she is, the sotry of how she met her partners Ed, and Choco. How one of their biggest jobs turned into one of their worst nightmares! The way the film was shot, the colors, the camera angles and the editing was awsome! Edited just like "Man On Fire". Kiera Knightly surprised me with an outstanding performance, one that I had doubts originaly. She pulled it off and pulled it off brilliantly. Mickey Rourke (MARV) was what can I say....Mickey Rourke! and Edgar Ramirez played a good supporting role. The film was very gruesome, but very much ALIVE! The film kept me entertained throughout and to me one of the top 5 of the year. It contains all the elements of great Tony Scott film, Dark Humor, goore, Violence, Sex, and great Acting! A definete movie to check out this weekend, just maybe not a film to take your girlfriends to.... If thats the case you better see Elizabethtown. Great movie

9/10

Exactly what movie were you watching and where can I see it?

LegionX
10-14-2005, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by ANTBond007
Exactly what movie were you watching and where can I see it?

I was watching "Domino" concidering thats what this thread is about and I watched it at a........hmmmmmmmm M-O-V-I-E- T-H-E-A-T-E-R.

It seems that this thread is full of TOny Scott haters and who dont appreciate uniqueness in a movie. The movie was directed fantastic. It was Unique and fast paced. Next time dont go into a movie with a close mind , go in with an open mind and a fondness for uniquness.

MadsenOMC
10-14-2005, 10:03 PM
Oh give it a fucking rest. I did not go in with a closed mind. I love Donnie Darko and fully expected this to at least me mindless entertainment. There is nothing "unique" about the directing, save for how pulverizing and atrocious it is.

LegionX
10-14-2005, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Oh give it a fucking rest. I did not go in with a closed mind. I love Donnie Darko and fully expected this to at least me mindless entertainment. There is nothing "unique" about the directing, save for how pulverizing and atrocious it is.

Is this movie Donnie Darko? In fact Donnie Darko wasn't even written or directed by TOny Scott so DOnnie Darko has no relivance to this thread at all. Just because the movie is written by Richard Kelly, who happened to write DOnnie Darko you feel the need to compare work? I hear people comparing this movie to other TOny Scott movies including Man On Fire. Look its not a sequel, prequel, or remake of any Tony Scott film or any other FIlm. Its simply just another movie. SO if you compare it to another movie then Yes you are going in with a closed mind. You are not going in there with the intent of seeing a movie, you are going in there to see the similarities of Domino, and Donnie Darko, and Man on fire and so on and so on.
And let me say this. I review movies all the time and I will continue to do so. If you dislike the review I gave it, I really dont give a shit, and I move on. Dont ever try to critisize my review (especially since its my own personal opinion, and NOT everyone elses) and if you do try to tell me more of why you disliked it instead of a 6 1/2 sentence review that didnt take shit to write. Its my opinion, Not yours so move on.

The Heart Collector
10-15-2005, 12:01 AM
That doesn't make any sense. There is no humanly way to not compare a movie with movies done by the people involved. NONE.

LegionX
10-15-2005, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by The Heart Collector
That doesn't make any sense. There is no humanly way to not compare a movie with movies done by the people involved. NONE.


It makes perfect sense look for example:
Would you compare Peter Jackson's "Lord of the Ring Series" to "The Frighteners " or "King Kong" to "Lord of the Rings"

Would you compare Mel Gibson's "Braveheart" and "Passion of the Christ"?

Would you compare: "Casino" or "Goodfellas" to "The Aviator" or "Gangs of New York"?

So yes it is humanly possible

MadsenOMC
10-15-2005, 12:11 AM
Wow. Touchy. All I meant was that I expected a good script because of the fact that Richard Kelly wrote it. Do you honestly think I was expecting to see Donnie Darko? That is ludicrous and makes no sense whatsoever. And who said that you should stop reviewing movies? Not me. Never even implied it. Take it easy man. Agree to disagree.

The Heart Collector
10-15-2005, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by LegionX
It makes perfect sense look for example:
Would you compare Peter Jackson's "Lord of the Ring Series" to "The Frighteners " or "King Kong" to "Lord of the Rings"

Would you compare Mel Gibson's "Braveheart" and "Passion of the Christ"?

Would you compare: "Casino" or "Goodfellas" to "The Aviator" or "Gangs of New York"?

So yes it is humanly possible


No, but I could easily presume that since Martin Scorsese can tell a story, The Aviator and Gangs Of New York should be stories well told and well paced.

ANTBond007
10-15-2005, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by LegionX


It seems that this thread is full of TOny Scott haters and who dont appreciate uniqueness in a movie. The movie was directed fantastic. It was Unique and fast paced. Next time dont go into a movie with a close mind , go in with an open mind and a fondness for uniquness.

Gee, defensive much? I don't have much of an opinion of Scott one way or the other. He's just there. I went into Domino hoping for a fun action flick. Instead, I was given a headache, and I kept checking my watch, wondering when the goddamn thing would finally end. Judging from comments coming out of the theater a week and a half ago, most people felt the same way.

daddiefatsacks
10-15-2005, 12:45 PM
im a little bias since Scott directed my fave movie, and i overly enjoyed this flick. I don't know if anyone else here was expecting an oscar flick, or something groundbreaking, but i went in with 'no brain' mode on, and i got action, laughs, tits and carnage. It was a good way to spend 10 bucks on 2 hours, and my girlfriend loved it

7/10

MadsenOMC
10-15-2005, 12:50 PM
Why is it that if you don't like a mindless action flick, it's because you were expecting something groundbreaking or Oscar worthy? I think movie buffs know what to expect out of what they are seeing any given day. We follow movies passionately and so when we take our seat, most of the time we know what kind of expectations we should have. Such is the case with Domino. I expected decent mindless entertainment from the writer of Donnie Darko, even if I didn't care for Scott's last movie. Just because people hate a movie you like doesn't mean that they are being unfair (and I am speaking generally here).

Lazy Boy
10-15-2005, 02:10 PM
Rating: 6/10

In its own trashy, sick, gloriously over-the-top way, Tony Scott's latest seizure inducing hatchet job DOES have grounds for being one of the year's worst...then why did I sorta like it? I can't give it a seven, 'cause that's too high, but a six encapsulates the mediocrity of the final product, even though I admit, in the back of my mind, I was going along with the madcap insanity of the ride.

Richard Kelly's "script" is one of those post-Tarantino pop-culture hodgepodges that seems less and less witty the more one thinks about -- more confusing in terms of narrative, but I think that's the point; this is based on a real person, "sort of," but since Kelly doesn't really know her or seem to care to know her, he proceeds to throw in everything but the kitchen sink. You'll hear him talk about how the film is a message of the health care system and its poor state in America; I don't buy it, no matter the plot point with Mo'nique. Methinks Donnie Darko was a fluke, and now I'm wondering if Southland Tales will be just as erratic and annoying.

The casting of Keira Knightley highlight two personalities: a pouty, bad girl image and sex pot. It's too bad she's rather rote and one-note and limited as an actress; she can't portray rough and rumble like Mickey Rourke can. Speaking of Rourke, and the other weird personalities populating this film, I have a theory that since Kelly and Scott couldn't get to the heart of telling Domino's story, all these goofballs and miscreants serve to take our attention away from anything remotely logical or comprehensible. I mean, when Tom frickin' Waits shows up as an angel of mercy, in a scene lifted directly from Oliver Stone's The Doors, I let my brain slide along with the (acid) trip. It takes balls (and a short circuit in the ol' synapses) to make something this ludicrous and bad entertaining.

chinton
10-15-2005, 07:24 PM
I hated Man On Fire speifically its stlye more than it weak story so I will wait for video for this.

Duke Nukem
10-15-2005, 08:09 PM
You don't need to rely on mind-numbing "cut-to this/cut-to-that/cut-to-over-there/cut-back-to-that/cut-to-Aaaaarrrgg!" style editing to make a movie fast-paced. And it isn't "unique." You can simply point and shoot for a moment and then cut to another shot for another moment. And maybe in some sequences, it's okay to pull a little "cut-to-this/cut-to-that," but not for a whole damn movie. All Tony Scott is doing is making the production of his movies more elaborate than necessary and harder to watch for the viewer.

I watched "The Fan," and besides the less-than-perfect script, the movie was a little jarring and heavy-handed in direction. "Man on Fire" was also directed a little too elaborately and heavy-handedly, but not as bad (considering the good story). But, what Tony Scott does with just the "Domino" trailer alone is hideous. I don't care what some might say, there are some movies you just know are bad, based on their trailers, and "Domino" is one of them. Why can't he just go back to his "Top Gun" days and make going to the movies fun again (and not hazardous to your health)?

My name is Domino Harvey, and I am a bounty hunter
My name is Domino Harvey, and I am a bounty hunter
My name is Domino Harvey, and I am a bounty hunter
My name is Domino Harvey, and this movie will suck
My name is Domino Harvey, and I am a bounty hunter
My name is Domino Harvey, and this movie does suck
My name is Domino Harvey, and I am a bounty hunter
My name is Domino Harvey, and this movie will bomb
My name is Domino Harvey, and...

jaw2929
10-15-2005, 11:00 PM
*POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

Domino wasn't too bad of a film... Just got back from it, and while I thought it'd be a bit better than it was (I liked Tony Scott's "Man on Fire") it wasn't as bad as some of the reviews I've read on it, and turned out to be pretty enjoyable for the most part...

It's about real life Model Domino Harvey turning down the modeling business, in order to become a Bounty Hunter... Knightley does quite well in her "bad girl" role and actually kicks a fair amount of ass throughout the movie... We get some more of her titty's in what I thought to be a ridiculous sex scene in the middle of the Nevada desert, but said titty's made up for that! ;)

Domino joins Mickey Rourke and a friend Bounty Hunter of his, and they mesh well together... They end up getting their own "Reality TV" show and then end up being stuck in the middle of set-up by their 'boss' and his mistress, ending up right in between 2 mob bosses and the FBI....

This movie's full of action, but ya've gotta pay close attention to it, otherwise it becomes confusing... The ONLY editing thing I didn't care for of Tony Scotts' was that some of the things Knightley said were repeated for extra effect... Which was over-done I thought, but the familiar sub titles and same gritty style that was in Man on Fire was here as well, which I quite enjoyed....

The only other problem I had was the boys (Ziering and Green) from the TV Show Beverly Hills 90210 were more fucking agitating as hell, than comedic relief which was I believe their main purpose... Just didn't fit in with the story in my mind and the movie would've been better off without them and the absurd previously mentioned desert sex scene....

Other than that, it's about 2 and a half hour long movie which is a bit overlong but I didn't really mind it... If you enjoy Knightley's work, and Man on Fire I would recommend this regardless! :)

Ender
10-16-2005, 12:01 AM
DOMINO turned out to be better than I had expected, but not as good as I'd hoped. It was certainly never boring, never tiresome, kept me entertained, got me to laugh, and left me with the impression that I'd had a pretty good time. The cast is great, even if everyone feels underused, and it's fun seeing Kiera Knightley fire automatic weapons, beat people up, and show us her tits (I dunno if those were really hers, but I don't honestly care). Tony Scott's overbearing directing and hallucinatory visuals are certainly not for everyone, and I can support the people who think he needs to reel it in a few thousand yards, but it works for me. The script is a bit of a mess though, and the story seems like it's intentionally hard to follow, which is where things fall down. A lot of this shit just doesn't need to be there. Like the TV show angle, sure, it led to some laughs, but it didn't really add anything important to the story. And am the only one who's sick of seeing Christopher Walken try to be funny? I guess I probably am. Still, for it's many flaws, DOMINO kept my attention and didn't send me home feeling cheated, so I'm happy enough, even if this is better DVD material than theatre fare.

Edit: I wonder, am I being too sensitive in finding the Afghani character offensive?

AwesomeJ33
10-17-2005, 10:41 AM
Yes the Tony Scott syndrome of quick cut editing is played out. The grainy looking film technique is too. After Enemy of the State, Spy Game, Man on Fire and now Domino, it might be time to tone it down. Simmer down now.

That being said I loved Kelly's script, what of it they put into the movie. You know that they had to cut the last third of the script because the mesculine fueled last act was just too insane.

Knowing what type of movie you're going into might help with all the detractors out there. I wasn't really looking for character developement in this type of movie and if you are looking for that type of thing and not finding it, I think thats more your fault than anyone elses. If you're looking for her motivations and not finding them in a Tony Scott directed, model turned bounty hunter movie too bad for you. Maybe you got confused but the Keira Knightley movie with character developement is called Pride and Prejudice.

I found flaws in it as well, but it is what it is. You know what you are going to get going into it and thats just what I got and expected.

7/10

MadsenOMC
10-17-2005, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by AwesomeJ33

Knowing what type of movie you're going into might help with all the detractors out there. I wasn't really looking for character developement in this type of movie and if you are looking for that type of thing and not finding it, I think thats more your fault than anyone elses. If you're looking for her motivations and not finding them in a Tony Scott directed, model turned bounty hunter movie too bad for you. Maybe you got confused but the Keira Knightley movie with character developement is called Pride and Prejudice.

7/10

One of the biggest crocks of pure shit I've ever read around here. The script is flat-out terrible. An incoherent mess. I don't think it was unreasonable to expect that a Richard Kelly screenplay would be a hell of a lot better than this. Why in the fuck would I expect a movie like Pride and Prejudice? I saw the trailers. I knew the premise. I knew who directed it and their history. So stop insulting the people who didn't like this movie. There's nothing wrong with us or our opinion. Talk about condescending bullshit. Jesus.

LegionX
10-17-2005, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by MadsenOMC
One of the biggest crocks of pure shit I've ever read around here. The script is flat-out terrible. An incoherent mess. I don't think it was unreasonable to expect that a Richard Kelly screenplay would be a hell of a lot better than this. Why in the fuck would I expect a movie like Pride and Prejudice? I saw the trailers. I knew the premise. I knew who directed it and their history. So stop insulting the people who didn't like this movie. There's nothing wrong with us or our opinion. Talk about condescending bullshit. Jesus.

Look do us all a favor and keep you mouth closed in this thread...It seems you bash anyone who has a decent review for this movie...Look we get the picture..You hate the film and guess what...we dont really care. its your opinion, thats his opinion. Leave it at that and move on!

AwesomeJ33
10-17-2005, 02:25 PM
All I know is if I hated a certain director before going into his next movie, I wouldn't be surprised if I didn't like it. What recent Tony Scott movie did you see that people walked out of raving about the character study?And the script that Richard Kelly wrote, wasn't the same one that made it onto the film. Check around it's true.

No need for personal attacks.

Pretentious, overlong, excessively noisy, ridiculously stupid and painfully dull, it’s essentially a complete failure.

Sounds like your reviews. Sorry you didn't like it God.

Name one Tony Scott movie with character developement?

AwesomeJ33
10-17-2005, 03:31 PM
Sorry for that last remark but when attacked I attack back.

We should probably close the threads after Metatron voices his opinion however, seems like the norm around here when he doesn't agree with someone other than his opinion.

MadsenOMC
10-17-2005, 04:20 PM
Legion X, I wasn't talking to you, so stay out of it. If you want to talk to me, send me a PM. Otherwise, I don't have to listen to you. You don't make the rules. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it and move on. Simple as that.

Awesome, you completely misunderstand me. Your initial comments implied that anyone who dislikes this movie is wrong. That it is their fault because they should have lowered their expectations, or at least kept them in check. I have encountered this notion elsewhere in a discussion about The Fog. Someone stated that because it has low expectations, no one should bash The Fog. It is unfair to do so simply because it's not shooting for Oscars. I strongly disagree with this line of thinking. Now, I have liked Tony Scott movies in the past, and I certainly believe that there is character development in True Romance. Even though I feared that his directing might suck, I hoped that Richard Kelly's writing and a pretty solid cast would be able to overcome that. I didn't have unrealistic expectations. I expected to be entertained, nothing more. And I wasn't. So am I really being unfair? I think not. And telling people that it's their problem because of their misguided expectations is bullshit.

Katsumoto
10-17-2005, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by AwesomeJ33
Name one Tony Scott movie with character developement?

I believe Scott used about an hour or so of Man on Fire for essentially all Character development.

LegionX
10-17-2005, 05:36 PM
Name one Tony Scott movie with character developement?

Enemy of the State (1998)
The Fan (1996)
Crimson Tide (1995)
True Romance (1993)
The Last Boy Scout (1991)
Days of Thunder (1990)
Revenge (1990)
Beverly Hills Cop II (1987)
Top Gun (1986)
The Hunger (1983)

DareDevil
10-17-2005, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by MadsenOMC
NBK is the best movie ever made compared to Domino. For the life of me I can't understand how anyone could admire Scott's directing in it. Easily one of the worst directing jobs of the year.

Madsen i have always read your posts and thought you seemed like an interlectual well spoken dude who knew his shit about movies, there's not many people on these boards where if i see they have posted i will automaticaly read no matter what the topic is... i no longer feel that way... did Tony Scott come into your house, tape you up to a chair, gag you, have a big black guy hold your eye lids open while they killed your family?? If not... can you stop being such a hater, like LegionX said we all know you don't like the movie but no need to take personal offense to other people liking it. Then try to make them feel stupid for it.

Sorry to get invloved i just felt like i had to say something and stand up for the underdog.

I personaly have been looking forward to this movie for some time now... Man on Fire IMPO is a very underrated movie... it did end up being my favorite 2004 movie, The Woodsmen being 2nd and Aviator being 3rd. No director can get it right every time and Scott is capable of making a great movie, he has done it more than once, with that being said i doubt Domino will be great, but i am going in with an open mind tomorrow, so i guess we'll just have to see.

MadsenOMC
10-17-2005, 08:17 PM
Did you even read what Awesome said? And have you read what I said? I have no problem with someone liking this movie. Yes, I hated Scott's direction, but if someone likes the movie itself, fine. What I do have a problem with is someone stating that anyone who dislikes the movie has something wrong with them; that they are wrong for having unrealistic expectations. How is that not bullshit? Why don't you have a problem with someone saying that? Especially if you haven't even seen the movie yet. Certain people seem to enjoy hating me simply because I have strong opinions. Sorry, but you are the haters, not me. Get used to it, because I'm not going to change and I'm not going away. I did nothing wrong here. I simply stuck up for people who didn't like it.

DareDevil
10-17-2005, 08:48 PM
"Oh give it a fucking rest. I did not go in with a closed mind. I love Donnie Darko and fully expected this to at least me mindless entertainment. There is nothing "unique" about the directing, save for how pulverizing and atrocious it is."

"Do you honestly think I was expecting to see Donnie Darko? That is ludicrous and makes no sense whatsoever."

"One of the biggest crocks of pure shit I've ever read around here"

"Why in the fuck would I expect a movie like Pride and Prejudice?"

"Talk about condescending bullshit. Jesus."

Madson you read my post and did not understand what i was saying... or i was unclear...

to response to this "Certain people seem to enjoy hating me simply because I have strong opinions. Sorry, but you are the haters, not me. Get used to it, because I'm not going to change and I'm not going away. I did nothing wrong here. I simply stuck up for people who didn't like it."

When did i ever hate on you for having a strong opinon thats why i like reading your shit, i too have a strong opinion which is near impossible to be changed... but you took it past a strong opinon your just being a dick abou shit,,, I didnt attack you for not loving Domino i simply stated that you come off really rude to other people, i don;t care that you didn't like the movie, like you said i havent even seen it yet, i care though when it seems like people don't feel comfortable posting here anymore.

MadsenOMC
10-17-2005, 08:56 PM
Who is afraid of posting here anymore? And if they're afraid simply because some people have strong opinions, isn't that a little sad? You never answered some of my questions. Awesome implied that people who don't like this movie have something wrong with them because they should have checked their expectations. Is there nothing wrong with saying that? Do I really deserve to be criticized for taking offense to that?

DareDevil
10-17-2005, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Who is afraid of posting here anymore? And if they're afraid simply because some people have strong opinions, isn't that a little sad? You never answered some of my questions. Awesome implied that people who don't like this movie have something wrong with them because they should have checked their expectations. Is there nothing wrong with saying that? Do I really deserve to be criticized for taking offense to that?

I have now read this topic 3 times and can not find where that was said, it must have been edited or I am blind...but what’s a little sad is it shouldn’t be that way, there's away of having a strong opinion and not being rude, trust me its possible.

The quotes I posted that you said are facts... you said them man and how can you not read them and see your being a little harsh and overly passionate about something.
Do you really deserve to be criticized for taking offense... no... and I’m not criticizing you for that, what i have a problem with is the lack of respect... since when does 2 wrongs make a right, just cause buddy said something stupid doesn’t mean you have to out stupid him??

You know this… you’ve been around here along time… so don’t get involved with other people being immature and saying stupid stuff, I know that’s very contradicting cause what am I doing right now? But man you need to just chill and not get worked up over people disagreeing. Can you not see that I have no opinion on the movie so what I am saying is based on what I have read.

MadsenOMC
10-17-2005, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by AwesomeJ33

Knowing what type of movie you're going into might help with all the detractors out there. I wasn't really looking for character developement in this type of movie and if you are looking for that type of thing and not finding it, I think thats more your fault than anyone elses. If you're looking for her motivations and not finding them in a Tony Scott directed, model turned bounty hunter movie too bad for you. Maybe you got confused but the Keira Knightley movie with character developement is called Pride and Prejudice.


This is the post I took offense to. I don't think I was out of line for taking offense with it. Unless a person has been living in a cave for the last three or four months, they knew exactly what type of movie they were seeing when they went to see Domino. I don't think it's fair or accurate to suggest otherwise. And I said so. I will not apologize for being passionate. If I came across as a jerk, well, so be it. His post upset me.

DareDevil
10-17-2005, 11:44 PM
fair enough... no hard feelings

MadsenOMC
10-17-2005, 11:49 PM
Glad to hear it. Sounds good to me.

Fidelio1st
10-17-2005, 11:55 PM
I don't want to get involved in the flame war here. But I think a very good point has been brought up when someone said, "I wasn't really looking for character developement in this type of movie."

I pose the question, why not? I actually thought the first 1/2 of MAN ON FIRE was very good because of the character development. I liked how Denzel's character was set up, as kind of a has-been alcoholic. I thought the 2nd have turned into a typical revenge flick.

I guess my point really is, shouldn't we expect more from our action films, or films in general. What made TRUE ROMANCE (another Scott directed film, probably his best) so good was the characters--we really sided with Clarence (Slater) and Alabama, even if their romance and quick marriage was a bit cheesy. But then again, Tarantino wrote that one, and Richard Kelly may be a one-hit wonder with DONNIE DARKO.

The structure of DOMINO is interesting, and the real life characters were ripe for adaptation. I just think it would have been better if Kelly would have stuck more to the truth.

But what really kills the film, as I mentioned in my review above, is Scott's direction. It literally gave me a migraine watching the film. If you have epilepsy, stay far away from this one, unless you enjoy siezures. He never allows his actors a chance to act in a scene, because he's too busy with crazy camera work saying "look what I can do" like a director fresh out of film school.

All the jump cuts and flashy editing had a point in NATURAL BORN KILLERS. It was to show these no-conscience cold blooded social paths thoughts.

In DOMINO, there's really no point to Scott's style. Other than to just show she had a fast paced life. But it's way too over the top, and for me, that kills the film. And what's with all the subtitles on the screen? He did that in MAN ON FIRE too.

I liked the characters, but in the end, the directing, and writing--like a big sex scene out in the freakin' desert--just doesn't work.

daddiefatsacks
10-18-2005, 04:00 AM
lol poor Madsen, the guy can't have an opinion without someone taking offence to it..

i see what your saying Madsen, i wasnt implying you thought this movie was oscar bound, and cuz it wasnt u disliked it, i just find it hard for people to find a movie like this not entertaining, but thats ignorant of myself..

AwesomeJ33
10-18-2005, 08:13 AM
All's fair in Love and movie reviews

MadsenOMC
10-18-2005, 04:10 PM
Well-said Fidelio.

Awesome, that's so true.

TrippingBalls
10-18-2005, 04:58 PM
You'd think that given the film's 2 and a half hour long running time they'd have enough time to flesh out the plot and explain the who what where and why of all the situations. The script in this movie is a confusing and convoluted mess. The movie trudges from scene to scene and half the time I don't even know what the hell is going on and why they're doing this to that guy. Okay, who just got killled, who were those guys that killed them and why'd they do that? Okay, so these people are doing this to these people so Domino and her buddies can get the money to save this kid, but turns out these people didn't die and it was a setup from these people who provided the fake licenses too...ah fuck it. The movie gets a 6/10 because there are moments in this movie when Scott isn't busy directing the movie like a "ferret on crystal meth", it's these few scenes that hint at what this movie could have been. The three main leads and the nice soundtrack are what barely save this movie.

5 or 6/10.

drdash
10-18-2005, 08:40 PM
9/10

I thought this flick was great flick and Scott's best since True Romance. Before this film I couldn't stand Kiera Knightley before this, but I fell in love with her in this film. This film is so frenetic but it works. It works in the same way it worked for Natural Born Killers, True Romance, Pulp Fiction and Killing Zoe. Now I hope Scott's redux of the Warriors is half as enjoyable as this film.

ciao
drdash

adamjohnson
10-18-2005, 11:56 PM
Hey, i just wanna see Keira Knightlys boobies again.

daddiefatsacks
10-19-2005, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by adamjohnson
Hey, i just wanna see Keira Knightlys boobies again.

really? i mean they arent that great

Ender
10-19-2005, 01:39 AM
But they're not NOT great either.

Lazy Boy
10-19-2005, 01:42 PM
I'll say it again, they're mosquito bites. Not really great to look at.

Ender
10-20-2005, 12:08 AM
I dunno, they have their charms. Size isn't everything.

adamjohnson
10-20-2005, 07:57 AM
Theyre two mouthfulls. Thats all I need!

Batman_DKR
10-21-2005, 08:45 PM
I'll be short and sweet for now, but I though this film was for one, stylish to a very accessible degree, it is one o the reasons I love Tony Scott, the Come on Hollywood article summarised it for me perfectly, it pushes the nevelope so to speak.

But mostly it was well acted, sharply written, and funny as hell, I really like the film and would happily see it again.

9/10

moviegroupie
10-23-2005, 12:38 AM
7/10

I liked the cast, thoroughly enjoyed it overall. It wasn't too deep, and I was just in the mood for T&A, a trashy artistic taste, and action. And I got what I wanted.

NightStalkerGtx
10-23-2005, 11:19 AM
Saw it last night and i completely loved it, The Actions scenes were fucking amazing Mickey Rourke stealed the show, The last 10 minutes were classic, loved the editing thought it fit in well with the movie and Kiera Knightly is one hot sexy biatch!!!! Anyways this is my 2nd fav movie of the year i loved every bloody sexy second of it.

9/10

therealjohng
10-23-2005, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by daddiefatsacks
really? i mean they arent that great


Boobies are boobies man. They're all great.


I liked this movie a lot. 7/10. A mess, but a glorious mess it is. IMO, Scott's direction suited the movie just fine. This movie is not boring once. It's alive, it has energy to spare. Why didn't Kelly stick to the truth? The truth is boring.

NightStalkerGtx
10-23-2005, 06:53 PM
^maybe that or maybe we cant handle the truth!!!!!!:eek:

ilovemovies
10-24-2005, 02:39 AM
Let me start by saying that I was one of those who was bothered by Tony Scott's directing style on Man on Fire. I really felt it hindered and stinted the intensity of the movie. But the difference between that movie and this one is that it didn't suit the movie. Scott's style however, I felt was totally suited for this movie. This is one wild ride and there was only a couple of occasions where I felt Scott over did it. Keira Knightley is fantastic here. She easily becoming one of my favs. Mickey Rourke is equally awsome. He completely commands the screen in this movie. And I found him more compelling here than he was in Sin City. The guy who plays Choco is solid as are Christopher Walken in one of his patented wacky roles, Mo'Nique and Delroy Lindo. And I thoroughly enjoyed the performances from Brian Austin Green and Ian Ziering both obviously having a blast in their roles.

I wonder how much of this movie is true. If it's even half true then Domino had a really interesting life and it's sad now knowing that she's dead after everything that happened to her in her life.

moviegroupie
10-31-2005, 05:18 PM
This one left the theatre faster than you can say:

"I saw Kiera Knightley's titties"

Lazy Boy
10-31-2005, 05:26 PM
Maybe it'll be a cult hit on DVD.

MadsenOMC
10-31-2005, 05:35 PM
The studio better hope and pray that it becomes a cult hit on DVD, because it's going to end its theatrical run with about $10-$11 million, and it cost $60 million to make, not counting marketing. That is quite bad.

moviegroupie
10-31-2005, 05:39 PM
I hope it does well. I liked it for what it was.

Digifruitella
11-04-2005, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by MadsenOMC
I love Donnie Darko and fully expected this to at least me mindless entertainment.

What the hell does that movie have to do with Domino, apart from Darko being written by Richard Kelly who also wrote Domino. They're two different movies, you should've realized this, what'd you expect Donnie Darko 2: With Guns? geez.

MadsenOMC
11-04-2005, 08:59 AM
It should be obvious and not require explanation, but I suppose that I will have to spell it out for certain people. OK, I'll try to be very clear. Richard Kelly wrote Donnie Darko. I love Donnie Darko and feel that the writing in it is superb. Richard Kelly also wrote Domino. Because of the high-quality writing in Donnie Darko, I hoped that Kelly would be able to supply a script that was entertaining at the very least. Understand? Make sense now? I hope so. Curtis Hanson directed Wonder Boys and In Her Shoes. I love Wonder Boys. If I said that I hope In Her Shoes is a good movie because Hanson directed it, that would make perfect sense. That they are completely different has nothing to do with it. Hanson is responsible for both. I can't believe that I even have to explain this. Geez.

Digifruitella
11-04-2005, 12:05 PM
no sorry, i'm a foreigner, i'm a little slow then. :o

MickeyKnox
11-17-2005, 11:57 PM
I thought this movie was very cool, 7.5/10, Scott's direction was okay but it sometimes feels a little hyper kinetic for my taste, in this film especially, Mickey Rourke was the man as always, Keira Knightely was about average was okay but nothing to write home about, and Christopher Walken also proves that he is the man of cameos, otherwise Richard Kelly's script was okay nothing great, but still i liked the movie for what it is.