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Lynn7
10-23-2005, 12:57 PM
You should see the pictures of these girls- they look like the sweetest things and then you read the article and you just can't believe it. The parents are really vile and so the kids have been brainwashed.
From ABC.com
Oct. 20, 2005 — Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.
They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.
Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes — the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine.
"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."
Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."
April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs — specifically the Nazi swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification.
"Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand."
Teaching Hate
Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."
"It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund — though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught.
someguy
10-23-2005, 01:26 PM
They make me laugh
I'm mad at ABC for doing this report though, the best thing would be to leave them alone so their popularity would only be between the bigots.
Criminal Rock
10-23-2005, 06:27 PM
I agree someguy. Though I wont be buying their album anytime soon, I REALLY want to hear their single for some reason. Limewire it is.
The Postmaster General
10-23-2005, 07:09 PM
This is also the name of an English blues band. Doing a web search got kind of confusing for a second, but the racists weren't hard to spot.
http://prussianblue.net/banner.jpg
The only comparison I see to the Olson Twins is that they look like what the Olson Twins might look like if portrayed in a Larry Clark film.
If you guys want to have a real trip out -- smoke a joint, get a black girl to sit on your lap, then head on over to the FASHION portion of their website.
http://prussianblue.net/fashion.htm
MacReady
10-23-2005, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
http://prussianblue.net/banner.jpg
Man, that massive forehead is sooooooooooo hot!
Anyway, how does this tie into the political world? :confused:
Criminal Rock
10-23-2005, 08:35 PM
You guys think thats crazy, check out this song they have on the Lyrics page:
Aryan Man Awake
(by Lamb and April)
When the man who plows the fields is driven from his lands. When the carpenter must give away what he's built with his own hands. When a mother's only children belong to her no more. And black masked men with guns come bashing down the doors. Where freedom exists for only those with darker skin. Where lies and propaganda will never let you win. Where symbols of your heritage are held with such contempt, and benefits of country 'cept tax are you exempt .
Aryan man awake, How much more will you take, Turn that fear to hate, Aryan man awake.
Can you see how they lie to warp your daughter's minds? Can you let your sons be trodden down or held behind? Can you apologize for things you did not do, and leave this battle that we fight to the proud and the few? What will it take for you to waken to the truth? What will it take for you to remember your own youth? What will you give up to help this worthy Cause, and strike with force and fury, without a single pause?
What will it take for you to remember your own folk? What will it take for you to break that heavy yoke? Why do you still cast your eyes downward to the ground? Worry lest what you say have prejudicial sound. Who will stand beside us when the war begins? Who will run and hide their heads and wait to see who wins? Who will face the end and watch a Valkyrie ride forth To join the gods and fallen stormtroopers of the North?
I'm actually starting to wonder if this is fake, and people are doing this as a joke or something…It doesn't seem authentic at all, though I’m probably wrong.
Criminal Rock
10-23-2005, 08:39 PM
Oh and here's a link to their forums, read what they say... these people strange. Sick i tell you.
here (http://www.officialprussianblue.net/forums/index.php)
electriclite
10-23-2005, 08:40 PM
You know, that song reminds me of what Chris Rock said:
"Shit! If you're losing, WHOSE WINNING??!!"
Anyway, how does this tie into the political world?
Everything is politics in this world ;)
And these parents who raised these kids need to be shot. I'm sorry, but this world would be far greater if the likes of these bigots were dead.
Man, people like this really bring out the worse in some people...mainly me...:mad:
electriclite
10-23-2005, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Vong
Everything is politics in this world ;)
And these parents who raised these kids need to be shot. I'm sorry, but this world would be far greater if the likes of these bigots were dead.
Man, people like this really bring out the worse in some people...mainly me...:mad:
Take some solace in the idea that these folks may actually just breed themselves into a dark level of inbreeding, rendering them so retarded that, like lemmings, they'll all instinctually hurl themselves over a cliff. . . . . . or in front of an 18 wheeler.
its all good.
Anyway, yeah keep living far away from us minorities, and that also includes not having your disfunctional parades run through OUR NEIGHBORHOODS!
Criminal Rock
10-23-2005, 09:01 PM
Oh brother... I just read about every post on those forums... these people... I'm literally at a loss for words right now.
go here (http://www.officialprussianblue.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7) and click on the "ON TV" thread.
outsyder
10-23-2005, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Vong
Everything is politics in this world ;)
And these parents who raised these kids need to be shot. I'm sorry, but this world would be far greater if the likes of these bigots were dead.
Man, people like this really bring out the worse in some people...mainly me...:mad:
Hating haters?
Being intolerant of the intolerant only keeps the circle going.
I just shrug it off and laugh.
TheDeadWalk
10-23-2005, 09:26 PM
I found it kind of disgusting.
The Postmaster General
10-24-2005, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
Oh brother... I just read about every post on those forums... these people... I'm literally at a loss for words right now.
go here (http://www.officialprussianblue.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7) and click on the "ON TV" thread.
What's really spooky about the site is seeing how many members are banned, with no clear reason, or evidence of rule-breaking.
And it was really spooky seeing people posting things, then others replying to them, saying they were sinister people for posting interacial porn (when they didn't post any pictures at all) --- It was kind of... weird. It made me appreciate these baords a lot more, for sure.
It was especially funny seeing them trying to pass of crime statistics as "fact" that blacks are more violent than whites. Ha! These are the same people who try to cash those novelty checks that credit card companies send.
"Well it says 'Pay to the order of HOLDER' right there, and '$20,000' right there!! What do you mean it's not a real check? Did I not endorse it right?"
Jon Lyrik
10-24-2005, 06:46 PM
There's a pretty good chance one of them will rebel later in the teen years and will be dating black and Jewish kids left and right just to piss her parents off.
I'm curious as to where to download their stuff, though, just out of curiosity, of course.
Originally posted by outsyder
Hating haters?
Being intolerant of the intolerant only keeps the circle going.
I just shrug it off and laugh.
I may be hating, but at least my hatred is based in logic and reason, and not some fucked up reasoning like hating Jews, blacks and what-have-you.
It may not be right to further the cyce of hatred, but how is shrugging it off and laughing help? Kids are being raised today to hate their neighbours all because of their differences between them. It's not something I can laugh at, and I think it's a little cynical to do so.
Doing nothing about (and I know just saying hateful things about it doesn't help either, which is why I voted to shoot them) will only further the miseducation of the youth to believe in false world views, [i]and[\i] allowing the parents of these youth to continue their brainwashing. So what can be done? The parents are beyond educating to believe otherwise, so me-thinks the targets are the children.
outsyder
10-26-2005, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Vong
I may be hating, but at least my hatred is based in logic and reason, and not some fucked up reasoning like hating Jews, blacks and what-have-you.
It may not be right to further the cyce of hatred, but how is shrugging it off and laughing help? Kids are being raised today to hate their neighbours all because of their differences between them. It's not something I can laugh at, and I think it's a little cynical to do so.
Doing nothing about (and I know just saying hateful things about it doesn't help either, which is why I voted to shoot them) will only further the miseducation of the youth to believe in false world views, [i]and[\i] allowing the parents of these youth to continue their brainwashing. So what can be done? The parents are beyond educating to believe otherwise, so me-thinks the targets are the children.
If they aren't breaking the law, ignoring the message of hate, or simply promoting tolerance is the best course of action if you don't appreciate their attitude.
And "believe in false world views"? How do you know if they're false? I'm pretty sure a lot of people out there would think that your views are all wrong and insane. And because of that they should be able to shoot you?
Brando @$$ Fat
10-26-2005, 08:11 PM
Wow, those kids make the Children of the Corn look like a couple of fuzzy Care Bears.
And "believe in false world views"? How do you know if they're false? I'm pretty sure a lot of people out there would think that your views are all wrong and insane. And because of that they should be able to shoot you?
I'm not sure if I understand what you said.
The "false world view" I am referring to is the unreasonable treatment and persecution towards Jews, blacks and so forth. Basically "everyone that is different from you". Now, if you are arguing whether or not that is wrong, then we should talk about ethics and morality. It is obviously and painfully clear that to hate or abuse another person(s) for being different then you is wrong. How do I know this is wrong? I think it's obvious...unless you are a subjectivist who believes that there is no inherent "wrongness" in an "immoral" act. If you are, then I am so sorry for you.
Now I am one for "crazy views". Heck, I have gotten heckles from my peers because I am a proponent for communism. But my views do not inflict physical or psychological harm to anyone.
My convictions aside; if these low-lifes want to believe in being fucking bigots...all the power to them...let them reserve a spot in hell. But using their hatred of other cutlures, races, etc. in a media outlet deserves a slap in conscience, and if worse comes to worse, a shot in the head.
outsyder
10-27-2005, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by Vong
How do I know this is wrong? I think it's obvious...unless you are a subjectivist who believes that there is no inherent "wrongness" in an "immoral" act. If you are, then I am so sorry for you.
I have my values, and I stick with them. Like pretty much everyone else here, I think they're batshit fucking crazy. However, I'm sure they believe that whatever their values are, are the correct ones. Until they've broken the law, they're allowed to do whatever they want to. That's free speech. Morals vary from society to society, group to group.
I have my convictions, but to them, we're the ones who have it all wrong.
I have my values, and I stick with them. Like pretty much everyone else here, I think they're batshit fucking crazy. However, I'm sure they believe that whatever their values are, are the correct ones. Until they've broken the law, they're allowed to do whatever they want to. That's free speech. Morals vary from society to society, group to group.
I have my convictions, but to them, we're the ones who have it all wrong.
I guess I can't argue with people having their own beliefs. It is a right that everyone is entitled to.
However, I am still a believer in an objective and universal set of beliefs that is based purely in morality (and faith or religion does not need to play a part in it). I know this universal belief exists, and that many share this belief, while other have yet to discover it. It is a good set of morals that promotes peace on Earth, and good will towards thy fellow man.
I also believe though, that there is a universal belief based purely in evil. One that few believe, mainly due to their miseducation. Morals are constructed and manipulated into something completely unique from its basic nature. While these people may love others and do good will for their fellow brethren, they still hold the hate towards those who are different from them from the misguided morals they were taught from the beginning.
What people may take as true, can be false. This is very true. However, if history and society has (at least) tried to show us, is that goodness and morals are to love and cherish each other, and not harm thy fellow man.
I still hold true that one day there will be world peace, but it won't happen with people like these, who promote misguided morals in a media outlet that can affect others and continue the horrible views of the world.
The Postmaster General
10-27-2005, 03:28 PM
Although I disagree with how it may seem like outsyder is defending their views, but I do agree with what I think he is saying - although I don't htink these people should be "shrugged off"
By painting these people as, for brevity let's just use the word 'shit' -- by painting these people as shit, you are only giving them more reason to think they are the ones who are right, and it is the jew-loving crowd that is the evil one. As hard as it may be to do, you have to put yourself in the shoes of the fan of a 13 year old female duo of racist singers and ask how you would respond if people citied the views you care about as being shit.
On the other hand, I think they should understand why their ideals aren't being embraced. There are many things I agree with --- I think white pride isn't a bad thing, and yeah - it is pretty silly to tell these people they shouldn't be proud of being white - but not because that is their race, and their race is better than others (not true - all men created equal...) -- but just because everyone should have pride in themselves. In my opinion - these girls don't have pride in themselves. They only pride themselves superfiscially because they have found a level of comradary among others that look like them.
I think when we act hateful towards haters, we are only leading by example. They all cite poor examples of blacks, jews and others as examples of how other races have pride and put down whites. That's all they really know. When less ignorant people show up, and join in with the hate -- it's only furthering the idea that hate is all they know.
The main thing I hear from racists is how they talk about how other races complain about stuff, and how they hate whites --- Then it turns into a monkey see/monkey do situation, which I never understand.
One time this racist family member was going on, and I asked why he had such a problem. He started in with how "they" always "bitch and moan like babies" about being treated poorly, and how whites are the ones who need to be complaining "in this day and age" because we are the only ones who are trying -- My response was to say, "So basically, if the blacks are going to bitch and moan like babies, you think that whites should do it too?" I wasn't sure how he'd respond, but he actually laughed, and said I was right - "I'd never thought of it like that."
I think I got a lot further with him that way than had I got into some Meathead/Archie Bunker heated back-and-forth, which is what I think he expected from me.
Most of these racists, from what I've gatheres, just haven't thought about enough things the way the should. Instead of lining them all up and marching them into the sea, I think the world would be better off just telling it like it is, and seeing where it goes from there.
The Postmaster General
11-08-2005, 06:46 PM
Did anyone hear?
The girls are now living in hidding because of all the threats they'd gotten on their message board!!
Maybe they are hiding out with Uwe Boll.
Their lawyer was on the news saying how horrible it is that these beautiful young girls have to live in fear because people are INTOLERANT of their "pride."
These people are dramatic, man.
ChemicalRomance
11-08-2005, 07:07 PM
Now that is some interesting shit.
Jon Lyrik
11-09-2005, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
Did anyone hear?
The girls are now living in hidding because of all the threats they'd gotten on their message board!!
Maybe they are hiding out with Uwe Boll.
Their lawyer was on the news saying how horrible it is that these beautiful young girls have to live in fear because people are INTOLERANT of their "pride."
These people are dramatic, man.
Hahahah.
Intolerant was the word used? Damn, talk about dishing it out but not willing to receive. It's OK if *we* hate you for being Asian/Greek/Polish/Russian/Italian/Jewish/black/anti-Nazi but *you* can't hate us.
Fascists are funny.
TheDeadWalk
11-09-2005, 10:01 PM
let them eat cake
The Postmaster General
11-10-2005, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
Hahahah.
Intolerant was the word used? Damn, talk about dishing it out but not willing to receive. It's OK if *we* hate you for being Asian/Greek/Polish/Russian/Italian/Jewish/black/anti-Nazi but *you* can't hate us.
Fascists are funny.
And even more so - they go on national TV and say these things, and think everything is groovy, but when they start getting threats from people on an internet message board --- Whoa! Watch out! Someone's lives are at stake now. This is serious stuff!
But really - this is all just more propaganda -- They want to make these ignorant people believe that the "non-white" threat is REALLY A THREAT, and that they must be scared -- even if it is scared of empty threats made by people with user names. Whatever the threat -- it is out there, and whites must band together to protect these precious blonde haird blue-eyed angels.
:rolleyes:
I listened to a sample track mp3 on that site. Two small problems:
1. They can't sing.
2. The guitar sounded out of tune and was being played REALLY badly.
Can't see 'em taking over the world somehow!
inglourious basterd
11-11-2005, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
By painting these people as, for brevity let's just use the word 'shit' -- by painting these people as shit, you are only giving them more reason to think they are the ones who are right, and it is the jew-loving crowd that is the evil one. As hard as it may be to do, you have to put yourself in the shoes of the fan of a 13 year old female duo of racist singers and ask how you would respond if people citied the views you care about as being shit.
Most of these racists, from what I've gatheres, just haven't thought about enough things the way the should. Instead of lining them all up and marching them into the sea, I think the world would be better off just telling it like it is, and seeing where it goes from there.
Racism these days is not really in short supply. But there is a difference between someone like your relative who was frustrated with a specific stereotype of a minority and someone who believes in causes similar to prussian blue.
I agree that reason is a good means for many people. The thing is that reason may not likely hold much water against many people in these extreme groups -- especially when they come from a minority such as myself.
History tells me that truly extreme racists are downright scary. It is possible that the girls have been subjected to extreme brainwashing and it is possible that they are not as passionate about their causes as the people they are surrounded by. Perhaps its possible that they may one day learn that what they did is wrong. The people in this situation that really concern me are the people who taught those children to believe that message. Specifically, what scares is me what these people could potentially be capable of. We cannot forget that the majority of terrorist acts in the past and in the present are inspired by either racial, cultural, and/or religious differences.
Lyrics such as the following shows that the people who surround these girls are very capable of hateful violence:
Aryan man awake, How much more will you take, Turn that fear to hate, Aryan man awake.
[SNIP] What will it take for you to waken to the truth? What will it take for you to remember your own youth? What will you give up to help this worthy Cause, and strike with force and fury, without a single pause?
Scorpio24
11-11-2005, 08:35 AM
Where is Al Quaeda when you need them?
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