Box Office numbers

[NightStalkerGtx]

FRIDAY EST

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1 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE $36,385,000
Theaters 3,858
Avg- $9,431

2 WALK THE LINE $7,555,000
Theaters- 2,961
Avg- $2,552

3 CHICKEN LITTLE $3,480,000
theaters- 3,514
Avg- $990
Change. -69.2%

4 DERAILED $2,030,000
Theaters- 2,447
Avg- $830
Change -54%

5 JARHEAD $1,470,000
Theaters- 2,413
AVG- $609
Change -66%

6- Zathura $1,425,000
Theaters 3,232
Avg $441
Change -72%

7 GET RICH OR DIE TRYIN' $1,320,000
Theaters 1,666
Avg- $792
Chnage -70%

8 SAW II $1,220,000
Theaters 2,257
Avg $541
Change -63%

9 THE LEGEND OF ZORRO $705,000
Theaters 2,150
Avg $328
Change -70%

10 PRIDE AND PREJUDICE $618,000
Theaters 221
Avg $2,796
Change -34%

Harry potter seems to be heading towards a 92-96 mil opening.
Walk the Line should make about 19 mil.
As for the rest god bless u up besides number 10 good job there PRIDE AND PREJUDICE !

[NightStalkerGtx]

By the way the reason the name of the thread is box office numbers is becuz i was kinda thinkin instead up starting up a new thread every friday we can just post numbers here every week and also daily box office numbers. (mon-Thurs)

[MadsenOMC]

Pride and Prejudice is not holding up well. This Friday's number is quite a bit lower than last Friday's. And Moviecitynews estimated a $41 million opening day for Harry Potter.

[NightStalkerGtx]

well look at the other movies they droped over 50% and P and P only a 35% drop and it wasnt going to do better then last friday with harry potter this weekend.

[MadsenOMC]

For something that is in limited release like P&P that is definitely not a good hold.

[NightStalkerGtx]

well, it has the 2nd highest pta in the top 10 and the theaters P&P has 90% of them prob had Harry potter thus keeping it from doing as good as u expected, but i think it will end up with a 33% drop this weekend and have a good hold over thanksgiving weekend. (and i also dont think 34% drop this kind of week with harry potter is that bad) not saying its great but couldve been much worse.

[MadsenOMC]

What are you talking about man? Why do you keep comparing P&P to Harry Potter? That makes no sense whatsoever. First of all, they are not playing in the same theaters. P&P is playing in art house and indie theaters while Harry Potter is playing in multiplexes. Second, they aren't going after the same audience. Third, you can't compare the drops of a movie in limited release to the drops of wide release movies. It's not the same. P&P's box office has nothing to do with Harry Potter's. It isn't competing with Harry Potter. For a movie in limited release, a 35% drop from Friday to Friday is not very good.

[Lazy Boy]

Showbizdata.com is saying HP got 36 million...so, which is it? 36 or 41? Are BOM and Showbiz being a little too conservative with the estimates?

Everything else took a nosedive...very deadly for Zathura.

[thedudeman69]

Well, Harry Potter gets the big ass opening leaving Walk The Line in the dust.

[MadsenOMC]

Walk the Line is going to have an outstanding opening weekend.

[NightStalkerGtx]

wierd i went wit 36 mil and box office guru and coming soon are saying the same thing but u never know this are just estimates

[NightStalkerGtx]

p&p isnt just playing at art houses and indie theaters theres many theaters around me with that movie that have harry potter, and P&P is a pg film thus it is aiming at adults and children which are currently watching harry potter right now.

[MadsenOMC]

I can't believe I even have to explain this. Just because P&P is rated PG does not mean that it's going after the Harry Potter audience. Do you think kids have read the book? Of course not. P&P is going after a totally different audience than HP. That is a fact, not an opinion. P&P is going for fans of the book and older viewers, not fucking kids and their parents. Its rating is irrelevant. PG, PG-13 or R, it would be going after the art house crowd, older viewers and fans of the book. It isn't playing in many theaters, so I highly doubt that it's playing in the same theaters as HP. And even if it is, they are still going after completely different audiences.

[NightStalkerGtx]

and one last thing im saying harry potter is lowering its business like many other movies in the top 10 does the 50 cent movie aim at harry potter fans nope yet it fell 70% and im sure the urban crowd went to see it a movie doesnt just get the crowd it wants it sometimes gets other groups as well that it wasnt aiming for and it prob got the P&P crowd.
Harry potter doesnt aim for the jarhead crowd nope yet look at its drop.
Every movie in the top 10 besides walk the line was effected by harry potter majorly.

[MadsenOMC]

I'll try to go nice and slow here. I never said that you have to have read the book to want to watch the movie. The fact is, P&P is targeting fans of the book, older viewers and the art house crowd. That is its target audience. Maybe women as well, with the romance angle. In general, it is going for a different audience than HP. Will some people see both? Of course. But the target audience for P&P is different from HP's. There is a reason P&P is playing in art house theaters in limited release.

[NightStalkerGtx]

U dont have to read a book to wanna watch the movie, I have no read one Harry Potter book yet when it came out the movie got my attention.

[Jon Lyrik]

I can't imagine too many kids going nuts over Pride & Prejudice. It's certainly not having a kind of heavy drop (for its pedigree) because of Potter, but probably because of Walk The Line, which definitely caters to the adult demographic.

Get Rich or Die Trying is an urban movie and a crappy one at that, so it dropping hard should come as no surprise to anyone.

[Lazy Boy]

Zathura is the one that's really hurting...it's marketed to kids, who didn't respond in overwhelming numbers last week, and now it's being annihilated by Potter.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
I'll try to go nice and slow here. I never said that you have to have read the book to want to watch the movie. The fact is, P&P is targeting fans of the book, older viewers and the art house crowd. That is its target audience. Maybe women as well, with the romance angle. In general, it is going for a different audience than HP. Will some people see both? Of course. But the target audience for P&P is different from HP's. There is a reason P&P is playing in art house theaters in limited release.

Each and every film was affected by HP. Even Walk The Line was affected by it, despite scoring a strong opening for the type of film it is.

The thing is, HP is not a movie strictly for kids and their parents. Lot's and lot's of people from different audience segments are seeing HP. P&P had a better hold than any other movie, so it puzzles me that having a 30-32% drop this weekend is somehow bad in your opinion (The weekend drop should be smaller than the friday-to-friday drop). Hell, it has a good chance of dropping less than 30%. The thing is that it had a great multiplier last weekend and small drops on the weekdays - Until HP arrived.

We are talking about a 36 million one-day gross for a film which plays to both sexes, and to all age groups. Of course it's going to affect ALL other movies in the top 10. Or are you really saying that NONE of the fans of Jane Austen, fans of Kiera Knightley, older audiences and arthouse audiences are seeing a new HP movie? All those groups have a certain percentage of people who go to see HP4, it's appeal is that wide.

Yes, I know you said that some people might want to see both. But the thing is, even if just 5% of those P&P audience groups opted to see HP, then they already caused a 5% larger drop for P&P.

Wait for the next weekend when P&P goes wide, before saying that it has failed.

[MadsenOMC]

I never said P&P failed. I think a 35% drop is bad for a movie that it's limited release. It's all about context. And I stand by what I said. P&P is going after a completely different audience. You can't blame its drop on HP. All of the other movies in the top 10 are wide release movies. If HP had any impact at all on P&P's box office, it is a very, very small one.

[MadsenOMC]

Also, Walk the Line exceeded all expectations. HP didn't hurt it. I can't imagine it performing any better if HP had opened a weel later.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Also, Walk the Line exceeded all expectations. HP didn't hurt it. I can't imagine it performing any better if HP had opened a weel later.

It naturally works as counter programming, but I'm just looking at every other film in the top 10: A juggernaut called HP crashed them all. I don't see any reason to assume that WTL was somehow immune to this effect. Sure, it was the only other new opener. But if every other film in the top 10 had a part of their audience taken away from them, I can't see why WTL would be an exception.

However, HP helped WTL in a different way: There are only two releases this weekend, thanks to the fact that with the exception of WTL everyone was scared of HP. And therefore WTL has less competition from new openers, because HP is the only one. If there would have been 2 other movies opening this weekend, HP would have been immune to them, but WTL would have suffered.

[MadsenOMC]

Walk the Line was tracking at about $15 million before it opened yesterday. Nearly all, if not all, predictions were in the $17-$20 million range (including boxofficemojo, boxofficeguru and comingsoon). It's going to open at or near $24 million. I don't think HP hurt it at all.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Walk the Line was tracking at about $15 million before it opened yesterday. Nearly all, if not all, predictions were in the $17-$20 million range (including boxofficemojo, boxofficeguru and comingsoon). It's going to open at or near $24 million. I don't think HP hurt it at all.

I was pretty confident it was gonna open at over 20 million.

The folks at www.worldofkj.com forums are better at this prediction stuff than anyone else, and most had WTL pegged at over 20 million. The average was around 22 million, I think.

They make science out of this prediction stuff, their methods at the "Yahoo Review thread" have proven to be a highly accurate predition tool.

I don't even read other site's predictions anymore, because they are always way more off than the worldofkj folks. BOM is the best site for actual numbers, but worldofkj is the best for predictions and discussion.

[MadsenOMC]

So even those "experts" who do it better than anyone else are going to end up being too low with their prediction.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
So even those "experts" who do it better than anyone else are going to end up being too low with their prediction.

The average was pulled down by people who voted for 14-16 million.

However their this week's "official" predictions were 25 million for WTL and 99 million for HP - But the official predictions aren't always done by the same people, so they are not really that "official" per se.

Anyway, we don't know the actuals before Tuesday.

[MadsenOMC]

Looks like they're going to be pretty damn close, if not right on the money. But, they were the exception. Tracking (which definitely isn't always right) was a lot lower than $25 million, as were all of the other predictions. My point is that Walk the Line will open much better than it was expected to, and that HP didn't hurt its opening weekend.

[optimus1]

P&P had to be slightly affected by Potter because even though the movie targets a way different audience a lot of that audience is not going to see P&P this week but is going to see HP with their kids. No matter what the reason though I agree , it didn't hold well for a limited release.

[Tuukka]

Weekend Estimates

1. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - $101,425,000 - NEW - $101,425,000
2. Walk the Line - $22,400,000 - NEW - $22,400,000
3. Chicken Little - $14,769,000 - -53.3% - $99,151,000
Derailed - $6,256,000 - -46.6% - $21,837,000
Zathura - $5,100,000 - -62% - $20,283,000
Get Rich or Die Tryin' - $4,375,000 - -63.6% - $24,502,000
The Legend of Zorro - $2,300,000 - -64% - $42,785,000
Pride and Prejudice - $2,112,000 - -26.3% - $5,971,000
Good Night, and Good Luck - $1,695,000 - -32.2% - $16,882,000
Shopgirl - $1,035,000 - -42.6% - $7,667,000
Capote - $954,000 - -19.8% - $7,833,000
Flightplan - $582,000 - -63.3% - $87,560,000
Bee Season - $230,000 - +90.8% - $391,000


HP did as expected, which is an outstanding amount of money.

Walk The Line didn't have a particularly strong weekend multiplier, but it's already a huge success for the type of film it is. It's funny that Mangold was rejected by every studio in town before he got to make the film - All studios said that nobody wants to see a Johnny Cash biopic. :)

Pride an Prejudice was least effected by HP in the top 10, leading to a strong 26% drop. Like I said, the weekend multplier should be strong, since the HP effect would be most fatal on Friday. But P&P held even better than I thought. Next weekend it's going to do great thanks to going wide. And the Thanksgiving effect favors date movies like P&P.

Zathrura had an idiotic release date. Thanks to good reviews and good WOM, if they would have released the flick early in 2006, it could have made 20 million more on it's run. But squeezed between much bigger kiddie flicks like Chicken Little and HP? The release date never made any sense and still doesn't.

Next weekend there are going to be small drops all around thanks to Thanksgiving.

[ChemicalRomance]

Holy fucking shit @ Harry Potter.

[MadsenOMC]

[i]
Walk The Line didn't have a particularly strong weekend multiplier, but it's already a huge success for the type of film it is. It's funny that Mangold was rejected by every studio in town before he got to make the film - All studios said that nobody wants to see a Johnny Cash biopic. :)

Pride an Prejudice was least effected by HP in the top 10, leading to a strong 26% drop. Like I said, the weekend multplier should be strong, since the HP effect would be most fatal on Friday. But P&P held even better than I thought. Next weekend it's going to do great thanks to going wide. And the Thanksgiving effect favors date movies like P&P.

[/B]

That is an outstanding opening for Walk the Line. It didn't cost much more than that to make. I believe the budget was about $30 million.

P&P isn't going wide. It's going to be in 1,100 theatres. What makes you think it will do great? It's going to have a lot of competition.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
P&P isn't going wide. It's going to be in 1,100 theatres. What makes you think it will do great? It's going to have a lot of competition.

In terms of B.O jargon, having 221 theatres and then expanding to 1100 theatres certainly qualifies as going "wide". Maybe for you it doesn't qualify, but it qualifies for everyone else I discuss on B.O sites, including "professional" B.O experts. So you are on your own with that.

What makes me think it will do great? Well, I'm using COMMON SENSE.

P&P has great reviews (RT). It has strong WOM (IMDB, Yahoo). It has the smallest drop in the top 10 this weekend. It had better holds than any other movie during the weekdays. It has a $9,556 theatre average. It's expanding to 5 times more theatres next weekend. Next weekend is Thanksgiving, which results as strong holds to all movies.

So there is every reason in the book to expect P&P to do really well. And there isn't even one single reason to expect it do badly. Obviously it's not going to gross 100 million, but that's not really the debate, is it? For adult-oriented, limited-release drama movie it's having a strong run.

Apparently you have something against P&P. That's fine. But if you want to argue, then present some facts to support your argument. The root of your argument seems to be that a weekend 26% frop for P&P is somehow weak, and therefore it's future run is doomed.

HP killed the holds for all other movies. P&P is the only one who survived. WTL increased the damage, but a 22 million opening doesn't kill other movies. 101 million opening does.

[Thiago]

$100M for Potter!! Yeah!! The series deserves it, as it keeps getting better and better.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Tuukka
In terms of B.O jargon, having 221 theatres and then expanding to 1100 theatres certainly qualifies as going "wide". Maybe for you it doesn't qualify, but it qualifies for everyone else I discuss on B.O sites, including "professional" B.O experts. So you are on your own with that.

What makes me think it will do great? Well, I'm using COMMON SENSE.

P&P has great reviews (RT). It has strong WOM (IMDB, Yahoo). It has the smallest drop in the top 10 this weekend. It had better holds than any other movie during the weekdays. It has a $9,556 theatre average. It's expanding to 5 times more theatres next weekend. Next weekend is Thanksgiving, which results as strong holds to all movies.

So there is every reason in the book to expect P&P to do really well. And there isn't even one single reason to expect it do badly. Obviously it's not going to gross 100 million, but that's not really the debate, is it? For adult-oriented, limited-release drama movie it's having a strong run.

Apparently you have something against P&P. That's fine. But if you want to argue, then present some facts to support your argument. The root of your argument seems to be that a weekend 26% frop for P&P is somehow weak, and therefore it's future run is doomed.

HP killed the holds for all other movies. P&P is the only one who survived. WTL increased the damage, but a 22 million opening doesn't kill other movies. 101 million opening does.

LMAO. Some people sure are sensitive around here. I'm so sorry if I hurt your feelings Tuukka. I guess it's safe to say that you really like P&P hey?

For starters, I never said that P&P is a failure or that it's going to be a failure. So if you want to argue, in the future, please don't make shit up or put words in my mouth. OK? Great.

I asked a question. I asked you why you think it's going to do great. That is a simple question. There was no reason for you to get so defensive and angry. I wasn't antagonistic. There really was no reason at all for you to act like that. All you had to do was answer the question. The rest was totally uncalled for.

And I don't give a fuck who you talk to about box office. Is that supposed to impress me or make me think that I'm wrong? 1,100 theatres is not a wide release. I don't care if a movie is opening in that many theatres or if it's expanding to that many theatres. That is a semi-wide release at most. Simple as that. It's not even close to wide. So your "experts" and "professionals" are wrong. The industry does not consider that a wide release. Those "experts" and "professionals" are not very smart if they consider 1,100 theatres a wide release.

[MadsenOMC]

Here's another look at the box office, from moviecitynews.

Title / Distributor / Gross (average) / % change / Theaters / Cume

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire / WB / 102.1 (26,460) / 3858 / 102.1
Walk the Line / Fox / 22.3 (7,520) / 2961 / 22.3
Chicken Little / BV / 14.6 (4,150) / -54% / 3514 / 98.9
Derailed / Weinstein Co / 6.4 (2,620) / -47% / 2447 / 21.7
Zathura / Sony / 5.1 (1,590) / -62% / 3232 / 20.3
Jarhead / Uni / 4.8 (2,000) / -59% / 2413 / 54.4
Get Rich or Die Tryin' / Par / 4.3 (2,610) / -64% / 1666 / 24.5
Saw II / Lions Gate / 3.8 (1,490) / -58% / 2557 / 79.8
The Legend of Zorro / Sony / 2.3 (1,090) / -63% / 2150 / 42.8
Pride and Prejudice / Focus / 2.0 (9,140) / -30% / 221 / 5.9
Good Night, and Good Luck / WIP / 1.7 (2,090) / -33% / 803 / 16.9
Prime / Uni / 1.6 (1,280) / -59% / 1229 / 21.4
Dreamer / DreamWorks / 1.2 (770) / -68% / 1543 / 30.7
Shopgirl / BV / 1.0 (2,370) / -46% / 413 / 7.6
Capote / Sony Classics / .81 (2,510) / -32% / 323 / 7.7
Flightplan / BV / .57 (1,010) / -64% / 563 / 87.6
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang / WB / .52 (2,300) / -34% / 226 / 2.9

Weekend Total ($500,000+ Films) / $175.10m

% Change (Last Year) / +18%

Also Debuting / Expanding
The Squid and the Whale / IDP / .26 (3,250) / -37% / 80 / 2.8
Bee Season / Fox Searchlight / .22 (1,570) / 79% / 138 / 0.38
Breakfast on Pluto / Sony Classics / 33,540 (11,180) / / 3 / 0.04

[inglourious basterd]

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[MadsenOMC]

I am not the one with the problem here. I never said that P&P was a box office failure. I never said that its future box office prospects were dismal. Yet somehow both statements have been attributed to me. It really is frustrating to constantly have words put in your mouth.

Also, 1,100 theatres is not wide. That is a fact. It does not matter if it is expanding to that many theatres or if it is opening on that many theatres. It is not wide, plain and simple.

[Tuukka]

"LMAO. Some people sure are sensitive around here. I'm so sorry if I hurt your feelings Tuukka. I guess it's safe to say that you really like P&P hey?"

RE:

Haven't seen it. So I guess it's not "safe" to say that I really like P&P.

Being patronizing and condencending is not a good idea for either of us, so let's agree to not to do it.

For starters, I never said that P&P is a failure or that it's going to be a failure. So if you want to argue, in the future, please don't make shit up or put words in my mouth. OK? Great.

RE:

Let's take some comments from you:

"Pride and Prejudice is not holding up well."

"For something that is in limited release like P&P that is definitely not a good hold."

'I think a 35% drop is bad for a movie that it's limited release."

...And since you have already written 7 posts in this thread where you explain why you think P&P is not doing well, I assumed that you would consider it as a "failure". Of course if you assume that was not supposed to do well in the first place, then it's not a failure, instead it 's acting exactly as anticipated.

But about getting semantic about the word "failure": You think it's doing "not well" instead of being a "failure". But that doesn't change my arguments in any way, since I say exactly the same arguments regardles of whether you consider the film as "failure" or if you consider it's performance as "bad" or "not good".

It seems to me that you are arguing about semantics here, and that's pretty pointless IMHO.

"I asked a question. I asked you why you think it's going to do great. That is a simple question. There was no reason for you to get so defensive and angry. I wasn't antagonistic. There really was no reason at all for you to act like that. All you had to do was answer the question. The rest was totally uncalled for.

The only thing that might have been "uncalled for" was the my line of "Well, I'm using COMMON SENSE". Everything else was a straight answer with factual information.

Why was I aggravated? Well, you have a tendency to ignore my fact-based arguments. When you were proven wrong with your claims of 35% drop, you ignored the fact that P&P dropped only 26% and went on to ask for new arguments on why P&P should be considered a success.

You did it again in your last post, I gave you a long list of factual, logical reasons on why P&P should do well next weekend, and yet you ignored ALL OF THEM and continued with a pissing contest instead.

And I don't give a fuck who you talk to about box office. Is that supposed to impress me or make me think that I'm wrong?

RE:

Uh... No. Did I ever claim so? No? We are talking about DISCUSSION BOARDS here. Anyone can register and express their opinion in them.

1,100 theatres is not a wide release. I don't care if a movie is opening in that many theatres or if it's expanding to that many theatres. That is a semi-wide release at most. Simple as that. It's not even close to wide. So your "experts" and "professionals" are wrong. The industry does not consider that a wide release. Those "experts" and "professionals" are not very smart if they consider 1,100 theatres a wide release. [/QUOTE]

Having a wide first weekend release and "going wide" are two different things. "Going wide" refers to the previous amount of theatres.

Also, having a "wide release" is relative to the nature of a film. For example when a documentary opens in more than 1000 screens, it's having a wide release. When a 100+ million budgeted action event film opens at only 1000 screens, it's not considered a wide release.

It's all about the context.

When a limited arthouse release on 221 theatres expands to 1100, it's "going wide". Frankly, I don't care if that qualifies for you, since it qualifies for everyone else I know.

[MadsenOMC]

Let me clearly explain myself, so that we can move on, since this is getting us nowhere. I never said that P&P is a box office failure, and I do not think that it is one. I never said that its future box office prospects are dismal. I stated that its drop from last Friday to this Friday was a bad one for a movie in limited release, and that HP is not to blame for that drop. I still believe both statements. In addition, I asked a very simple question (why it's certain to do great in the future). If I said something repeatedly, it's only because I was arguing my point(s). I have nothing against P&P. I have not seen it, and I've only heard good things about it. I really hope this clears everything up. OK Tuukka? We good now?

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Let me clearly explain myself, so that we can move on, since this is getting us nowhere. I never said that P&P is a box office failure, and I do not think that it is one. I never said that its future box office prospects are dismal. I stated that its drop from last Friday to this Friday was a bad one for a movie in limited release, and that HP is not to blame for that drop. I still believe both statements. In addition, I asked a very simple question (why it's certain to do great in the future). If I said something repeatedly, it's only because I was arguing my point(s). I have nothing against P&P. I have not seen it, and I've only heard good things about it. I really hope this clears everything up.

Me thinks we have communication problems! :)

But that's what easily happens when people start arguing... The problem can easily arise when people assume what that the other person is saying, instead of actually listening to what he is saying - I'm certainly guilty of that from time to time.

It's cool - I can see your point perfectly.

(I was editing my previous message to a more cool-headed tone before you answered to it. I'm not sure whether you eventually read the more or less agressive version. So if it came across as overly agressive instead of just mildly agressive - Read it again :) )

[MadsenOMC]

Great. I'm glad we understand each other. I hate it when things start to turn nasty. I can see your point perfectly as well. :)

[The Heart Collector]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
I am not the one with the problem here.

You never are. The rest of Joblo.com just magically decided to be aggressive against Madsen for no particular reason, am I right?

[MadsenOMC]

Thanks for the contribution Heart Collector. It's really appreciated. Good stuff. I look forward to future insights from you. I hope they are as incisive and provocative as this one. You really know how to enter a discussion at the perfect time and make the perfect comment. Quite a talent. Keep up the good work.

[EDsoulsurvive*]

So about that 100 million + opening for potter....

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by EDsoulsurvive*
So about that 100 million + opening for potter....

It is very impressive.

[optimus1]

LMAO

Not trying to put words in your mouth Madsen or make shit up or all or any of the stuff you normally accuse people of doing who don't agree with you but almost EVERY arguement in this section of the bbs has you as one of the participants and I commend you for it. You make a sarcastic remark or comment about a movie or someones posting and when someone calls you on it you act like your the party who has been wronged loooool..Your the Barry Bonds of Joblo.com :p :D

[MadsenOMC]

Every time I think it's resolved and we're moving forward... I never accused you of doing any of those things optimus. I have no problem whatsoever with someone disagreeing with me. That is not the issue and it never was. People around here disagree all the time and have civil discussions. What I don't like is when words are put in my mouth. And it does happen. It happened here, so I cleared it up. I explained exactly what I meant (and what I didn't mean). What I never do is accuse someone of putting words in my mouth just because they disagree with me. To say otherwise is complete bullshit. Now, I hope this is the end of that.

[Badbird]

So much for that PG-13 rating possibly hurting HP. Mainstream media movie reporters are idiots.

[inglourious basterd]

Originally posted by Badbird
So much for that PG-13 rating possibly hurting HP. Mainstream media movie reporters are idiots.

The question is whether HP will have sticking power. That will truly tell.

Azkaban had an equally impressive opening, but it had a 61% drop in its second week. Because next weekend is thanksgiving weekend, I doubt that it will have the same fate.

I hope that it will be successful. But time will tell.

[inglourious basterd]

Originally posted by Badbird
So much for that PG-13 rating possibly hurting HP. Mainstream media movie reporters are idiots.

Excerpt of an article from Box Office Mojo:

Harry Potter's 'Goblet' Runneth Over with Cash
by Brandon Gray
November 20, 2005

From Hogwarts School came a lesson to the industry: conjure appealing pictures and the audience will appear.

After weeks of movies that were weak on paper let alone in theaters, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire dispelled the year-to-year slump temporarily, posting the biggest opening weekend gross ever outside of May. Including Walk the Line's solid start, overall weekend business was the fourth highest on record with the top 12 pictures generating an estimated $171 million—a 19 percent improvement over the comparable period last year.

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire drew an estimated $101.4 million from 3,858 locations, setting a new opening high for the franchise in terms of gross and selling about as many tickets as the first movie, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, did out of the gate. The debut also ranks as the fourth biggest of all time in terms of gross, behind Spider-Man's $114.8 million, Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith's $108.4 million and Shrek 2's $108 million.

Warner Bros.' fourth J.K. Rowling adaptation reportedly cost about $150 million to make, and the studio's exit polling indicated that 60 percent of the audience was female. Their research also suggested that moviegoers are aging with Harry—42 percent were 17 years old and younger, compared to the 60 percent for Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban's opening.

"It's skewing a little older as the books get older," said Warner Bros.' head of distribution, Dan Fellman. "It's just a natural progression. We've been very true to the books with the movies, and the audience is expanding." Adding to Goblet of Fire's buzz was the release of Rowling's latest book, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, in July. "To have the new book and the movie in the same year is a winning combination," noted Jeff Goldstein, the studio's executive vice president and general sales manager of distribution.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Badbird
So much for that PG-13 rating possibly hurting HP. Mainstream media movie reporters are idiots.

Is this entry a lot darker than previous ones? Everyone talked about how much darker the last one was compared to the first two. How does this one compare? I think it's interesting that the audience for the series is getting older.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
You never are. The rest of Joblo.com just magically decided to be aggressive against Madsen for no particular reason, am I right?

To be honest, I think Madsen IS unfairly criticized quite often. And usually this is done based on the assumption that he gives all movies bad reviews. And that is not even remotely true.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by psudoazn
The question is whether HP will have sticking power. That will truly tell.

Azkaban had an equally impressive opening, but it had a 61% drop in its second week. Because next weekend is thanksgiving weekend, I doubt that it will have the same fate.

I hope that it will be successful. But time will tell.

I think the problem with HP series is that they are increasingly operating among their fanbase. When you have a 4th film in the series, which looks very similar to previous entries, it's hard anymore to appeal to the audience which didn't fall in love with the previous films.

The thing is, SS had the biggest amount of audiences who checked it out of curiosity. And with each installment this crossover audience has grown smaller and smaller. Lot's of people were converted to the HP phenomenom, but those who weren't are unlikely to be converted at this point - They just don't care.

I'm one of those people. I saw 3 previous flicks in theatres, but I'm waiting for DVD with this one. I moderately liked the previous films. They were well made. HP3 was superbly made. But I just feel indifferent to the stories and the characters.

Since HP films are increasingly operating on their fanbase, I expect them to be increasingly front-loaded and less leggy with each installment.

While the fanbase is not showing any fatigue towards the series, I think the crossover audience is.

HP4 is going to do great next weekend, but after that it will get killed in respective weekends by Narnia and Kong, both of whom appeal largely to the same audience. But considering that HP4 will have already over 200 million in the bag when Narnia comes out, the studio will be rolling in money.

[inglourious basterd]

Originally posted by Tuukka
I think the problem with HP series is that they are increasingly operating among their fanbase. When you have a 4th film in the series, which looks very similar to previous entries, it's hard anymore to appeal to the audience which didn't fall in love with the previous films.

The thing is, SS had the biggest amount of audiences who checked it out of curiosity. And with each installment this crossover audience has grown smaller and smaller. Lot's of people were converted to the HP phenomenom, but those who weren't are unlikely to be converted at this point - They just don't care.

Since HP films are increasingly operating on their fanbase, I expect them to be increasingly front-loaded and less leggy with each installment.

While the fanbase is not showing any fatigue towards the series, I think the crossover audience is.


I agree. That is my concern for this movie.

Here is the thing. From the article I quoted above, it said that they sold about as many tickets as HP1. Additionally, exit polls showed that only 40% of the audience was under 17. Azkaban had an audience that was 60% under 17 according to that article. It could certainly mean that 20% of the people who camped HP3 are older now. But it could also mean that there are a few more adults watching the series as well. If we had more detailed statistics, though, it would be able to determine what the statistics more accurately mean.


I'm one of those people. I saw 3 previous flicks in theatres, but I'm waiting for DVD with this one. I moderately liked the previous films. They were well made. HP3 was superbly made. But I just feel indifferent to the stories and the characters.

HP4 was very well made as well. Its somewhat like HP3 -- they heavily streamlined the original book to make this a thriller. More importantly, the characters get more interesting because Newell does a great job of making them more human. If you moderately liked the other films, I think that you could get enjoyment out of a matinee ticket. ;)




HP4 is going to do great next weekend, but after that it will get killed in respective weekends by Narnia and Kong, both of whom appeal largely to the same audience. But considering that HP4 will have already over 200 million in the bag when Narnia comes out, the studio will be rolling in money.

I think you are right. If Harry Potter makes 230-250 million domestically (which is possible if they get 60 million this weekend), I think that WB will be more than content. Afterall, it is the international market and the DVD market where they rake in the huge bucks. Interestingly enough, along these lines, I read an unconfirmed article that the DVD will be released in early April with 15 minutes of extra footage and directors commentaries.

As for Kong/Narnia...do you think that they are going to be the type of movies that open with 65-100 million dollar openings? Or do you think they will open with moderately big openings (40-65m) and stay strong because of strong WOM?

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by psudoazn
As for Kong/Narnia...do you think that they are going to be the type of movies that open with 65-100 million dollar openings? Or do you think they will open with moderately big openings (40-65m) and stay strong because of strong WOM?

Hard to say... Both films are heavily marketed big event films. Directors of both films have a extremely strong recent track record. And both benefit from a pre-existing brand name and awareness. Narnia also will likely benefit from the church-effect. It's gonna attract a lot of christian moviegoers.

But so far almost nobody has seen either film, and that's the big question mark.

I think both will open north 60 million, but it's hard to say before the reviews start coming in. Narnia has the upper hand because it's only 2 hours, but I think KK is gonna have the bigger hype.

[inglourious basterd]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Is this entry a lot darker than previous ones? Everyone talked about how much darker the last one was compared to the first two. How does this one compare? I think it's interesting that the audience for the series is getting older.

The movie is incredibly darker than the previous ones. I think that part 4 has a different type of darkness. In part 3, it was just a dark atmosphere because of the introduction of one death eater. In this one it has dark atmosphere and an increasingly dark storyline. Unlike previous films, viewers can believe that the characters are vulnerable to getting hurt or worse. In fact, in the opening scene a caretaker gets killed (obviously in a non-bloody way). (That was not really a significant spoiler by any means).

Violence in these films wont really phaze us -- who have been subjected to much more graphic scenes of death. But it is an indicator of the fact that things are changing and getting increasingly darker in the HP world.

[NightStalkerGtx]

harry potter made 8 mil monday

walk the line 2 mil

and chickin little managed to squeeze in 1 mil

[Arc]

Good drop for Potter on Monday. That is a little better than the first installment's drop. Not as good as the thrid's, since that was during the Summer, but this one has the advantage of a four-day holiday weekend coming up.

It was funny as hell to see Potter raise it's actuals from 39 to 40 million for Friday. :D Can it pass $200 million by the end of the weekend? Doubtful (I see this happening on Tuesday), but that would make it the only movie to do that on its 10th day. Only SM 1 & 2, and SWIII made it there faster.

If GoF keeps this up, it'll become the biggest 5-day, and biggest 3-day for Thanksgiving, a record the first HP still holds.

Walk the Line is doing fantastic, and Chicken Little passed $100 million on Monday.

[NightStalkerGtx]

Harry potter

Weekday update by the way can anyone take cover for the rest of the week for this thread im on vacation in florida till sunday so thanks if anyone does.


Monday- 8 mil

Tuesday- 9 mil

Looks Like Harry potter went up!!!!

[Backstabba]

Wednesday Numbers (showbizdata.com)

1. HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE 14,120,000
2. RENT 4,970,000
3. YOURS, MINE & OURS 3,359,000
4. WALK THE LINE 3,345,000
5. CHICKEN LITTLE 2,370,000
6. JUST FRIENDS 2,031,000
7. PRIDE AND PREJUDICE 1,120,000
8. IN THE MIX 848,000
9. DERAILED 690,000
10. ZATHURA 612,000

Harry potter CAN NOT BE STOPPED!!!

...And ouch for The Ice Harvest....not even in the top 10.

[Lazy Boy]

I see Get Rich or Die Tryin' has dropped out of the top ten.

It looks like they failed to obtain the first half of the title.

[NightStalkerGtx]

hey guys i loged onto my friends laptop b4 going to dinner (im still on vacation till sunday in florida) well here is thursday top 10 someone please post tomorrows estimates, thanks in advance


Thursday, November, 24, 2005 Title Daily Total
HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE 12.4----- 145.7
WALK THE LINE 4.6---- 34.8
YOURS, MINE & OURS 3.8---- 7.2
RENT 2.4---- 7.4
JUST FRIENDS 2.3----- 4.3
CHICKEN LITTLE 1.9----- 105.4
PRIDE AND PREJUDICE 1.2---- 8.8
DERAILED .9 -----24.6
IN THE MIX .9----- 1.7
ICE HARVEST .8---- 1.3

Harry potter went down a bit. walk the line went up a lot, youres mine and ours is doing decent, rent fell almost 50% just friends went up ( im porb seeing it when i get back), chickin little went down and p and p went up i think same for derailed, in the mix and the ice harvest.



By the way thanks backstabba for posting weds est.

:)

[inglourious basterd]

Wow...145.7 million by Thursday. It can very possibly hit 200 million this weekend. Only time will tell though.

[ilovemovies]

People would rather see In the Mix than The Ice Harvest?????!


I mean, they are both tanking badly, but The Ice Harvest should DEFINATLEY be a head of In the Mix!

[NightStalkerGtx]

Hey guys im on vacation, just woke up and well i stoped by to post the....


FRIDAY EST!!!

Title Daily Total
HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE 22.8---- 168.5
WALK THE LINE 7.8----- 42.6
YOURS, MINE & OURS 7.0---- 14.2
CHICKEN LITTLE 5.4---- 110.9
RENT 4.3----- 11.7
JUST FRIENDS 3.8----- 8.1
PRIDE AND PREJUDICE 2.8----- 11.6
DERAILED 1.8---- 26.4
IN THE MIX 1.7----- 3.5
ICE HARVEST 1.5----- 2.8

Well it looks like harry potter is headed for a 55-60 mil this weekend passing the 200 million mark, Walk the line held up outstandingly, yours mine and ours went up majorly, same with chickin little and rent, just friends has a nice increase same with p and p and derailed continues to hold up better then expected, in the mix went up still isnt going to make much money but the budget on it was prob low, well for ice harvest all i can say is, pray for a quick death.

[thedudeman69]

Harry Potter is a monster that even unruly villagers can't stop.

[Lazy Boy]

It's assured that the best release for the Potter film is around Thanksgiving, and not so much the summer.

Great hold for Walk the Line. Word of mouth must be excellent.

[MadsenOMC]

Rent will have an opening that is very similar to Alexander's last year, and that movie ended up with only $34 million total. Considering that it has already showed signs of slowing down, its prospects aren't too promising. It doesn't appear to be crossing over well. An OK opening, but far from great. Same with Just Friends. Looks to make about $15 million over the five-day weekend. Nothing special really, but not terrible. Good numbers for HP, Walk the Line and Yours, Mine and Ours. Clear winners for this weekend.

[Arc]

BOM raised it a million to $23.7million. Looks like Goblet of Fire now holds the record for biggest Friday and now second Friday as well. Whoa.

It is likely a lock to hit $200 million on Sunday (!!), and might even pull off a $60 million weekend. Not likely, but close.

[NightStalkerGtx]

Estimates for
Saturday, November, 26, 2005 Title Daily Total

HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE 20.1--- 188.6

WALK THE LINE 7.7----- 50.3

YOURS, MINE & OURS 6.7----- 20.9

CHICKEN LITTLE 4.9--- 115.8

RENT 3.8---- 15.6

JUST FRIENDS 3.7---- 11.8

PRIDE AND PREJUDICE 2.8---- 14.3

IN THE MIX 1.9--- 5.4

DERAILED 1.8--- 28.3

ICE HARVEST 1.5----- 4.2


Looks like harry potter will hit the 200 mil mark good ass hold for walk the line, rent went down, chikcin little went down i think, just friends stayed put (6/10), Yours mine and ours went a bit down and the rest of the bottom half pretty much wen t up.

[Jon Lyrik]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2005&wknd=47&p=.htm

[NightStalkerGtx]

3 day est-

1- Harry potter- 54.9--- 201.1 mil

2- walk the line- 19.7 mil-- 54 mil

3 youres mines and ours 17.4 mil---- 24 mil

4- Chickin Little 12.4 mil---- 118.2 mil

5- Rent- 10.7 mil ---- 18.2 mil

6- Just Friends 9.2 mil ---- 13.6 mil

7- Pride and P- 7 mil- 15 mil

8- Zathura 4.9 mil--- 26 mil

9- derailed 4.7--- 29.4

10- In the Mix 4.4 mil- 6.1 mil

11- Ice Harvest- 3.7mil --- 5 mil

12- Jarhead 2.8 mil---- 59.4 mil

[Lazy Boy]

In limited release, Syriana had a screen average of $74,400, earning 372,000 total this weekend.

Harry Potter has officially crossed the 200 million mark.

[inglourious basterd]

Question is where it will top off...my guess is that it will be around 280-310 million.

Especially with Narnia and Kong around the corner.

[NightStalkerGtx]

im saying 270-290 mil

[inglourious basterd]

Next weekend looks pretty weak. I dont know whether Aeon Flux has the legs to take the top spot from HP. I don't believe that the market is salivating for films based on anime. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if HP continues its dominance of the box office hitting 30 million in the next weekend. I think that it'll finally drop when Narnia comes out. (If HP gets 30 million this weekend, then I think that itll be around 240 million domestically on sunday. It would set things up perfectly for the film to peak at around 280-300 million).

Walk the Line will continue to kick ass as well. It surprisingly had a less than 20% drop last week. Incredible.

Heres a question for you guys....Do you think that Narnia will have the success that Potter and LOTR had?

The reason that Potter has been a billion dollar industry at the box office is because of the fact that it was released during the time that its buzz was hottest.

As for LOTR...that has been something that fans have wanted for years.

Is there as huge a Narnia fanbase? Will the series be inspired enough to survive the comparisons to LOTR and to win over new fans? I'm interested in seeing how it pans out. These epics can't be cheap and I'd hate to see the day that an epic project flopped. I'm not suggesting that Narnia will flop (I don't really know about its fanbase). But I think it may be possible for a big budget epic trilogy to flop.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by psudoazn
Is there as huge a Narnia fanbase? Will the series be inspired enough to survive the comparisons to LOTR and to win over new fans? I'm interested in seeing how it pans out. These epics can't be cheap and I'd hate to see the day that an epic project flopped. I'm not suggesting that Narnia will flop (I don't really know about its fanbase). But I think it may be possible for a big budget epic trilogy to flop.

Narnia is very well known in some countries. UK and USA probably have the biggest fanbase. It's important to note the christian aspect - The story is a parallel for new testament and the church is very supportive of both the book and the movie. The same guys who handled the marketing for Passion of the christ are handling the christian demographic for Narnia. Churches are going to see it - There are already reports for church bookings in theatres.

And according to screenings so far the film is very good. Entertaining, fun and well made. It's also "only" 2 hours long, which helps.

Then there is the kiddie/family factor. Narnia is playing straight to that audience and traditionally big kiddie event picks do well - And christmas time is going to help.

It's a lock for 200 million, IMHO. Should end up in the 250-300 million range if the WOM is good enough. Shrek movies were megahits and this is from the same director - His track record hints at good WOM.

KK will steal some of it's thunder, but the films can co-exist.

[NightStalkerGtx]

hary potter made 2 mil on monday and walk the line 1 mil harry potters wound is losing its magic

[inglourious basterd]

Originally posted by Tuukka
Narnia is very well known in some countries. UK and USA probably have the biggest fanbase. It's important to note the christian aspect - The story is a parallel for new testament and the church is very supportive of both the book and the movie. The same guys who handled the marketing for Passion of the christ are handling the christian demographic for Narnia. Churches are going to see it - There are already reports for church bookings in theatres.

.

I must have been an inept child. =p

When I was forced to read this as a chilld, I didn't catch any of that. But that is interesting. It will be interesting to see how ths works out. The Christian demographic in America is huge and largely untapped. I'm interesting in seeing how this works out.

[inglourious basterd]

Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
hary potter made 2 mil on monday and walk the line 1 mil harry potters wound is losing its magic

For HP, I find this link fascinating. Even though it only made $2m on monday, it seems to line up perfectly with HP1. It looks like history may be repeating itself.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=vs-harrypotter.htm

Mondays are typically slow, right? I think that the Monday grosses were as expected (for HP and WTL)-- especially on the Monday after the 4 day weekend.

[NightStalkerGtx]

tuesday

potter 2 mil

WTL 1 mil


Anyone here think walk the line is going to hit 100mil?

[NightStalkerGtx]

Weds-

Harry potter 1.9 mil

Walk the line 1.1

can anyone do this weekends numbers (friday est- sun) and weekend est i cant, ill be in princeton nj with my debate team at a tournament and wont be back home porb till sunday 6-8

[Tuukka]

BTW, this thread was a good idea - Works much better to have everything in just one, on-going thread.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx


can anyone do this weekends numbers (friday est- sun) and weekend est i cant, ill be in princeton nj with my debate team at a tournament and wont be back home porb till sunday 6-8

Myself and others have been doing them for a long time around here, and I'm sure we'll be able to handle it.

[MadsenOMC]

Friday's Estimates:

1) HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE - $5.1 million
2) AEON FLUX - $4.8 million
3) WALK THE LINE - $3.1 million
4) YOURS, MINE & OURS - $2.3 million
5) JUST FRIENDS - $2 million
6) RENT - $1.6 million
7) PRIDE AND PREJUDICE - $1.1 million
8) CHICKEN LITTLE - $1 million
9) DERAILED - $700,000
10) IN THE MIX - $600,000

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Wow, I'm very suprised by Aeon Flux's take, but I'm sure it's mainly devotees of the series, or horny Charlize Theron fans.

[Metal Face]

Aeon Flux was a pretty obscure show, I'd chalk it up to Theron more than anything else.

I think thew blew it with the 'horny' audience draw by giving Aeon Flux about 500% more clothing than she had in the cartoon. Aaaahhhj. what could have been..

[inglourious basterd]

It looks like it will be a horserace for the number one spot this weekend. I think that it looks like HP will hit around 18-21 million this weekend, for a drop of about 60ish percent. I suppose that it is a perfect setup for Narnia to take over next week.

Aeon Flux should be competitive with HP this weekend.

Walk the line looks like it might get another 13-16 million this weekend; that is actually a pretty respectable drop. With the holidays around the corner, is it possible that this could hit the centurion mark? As of Friday, it is at 60 million so far. (In order to hit 100 million, it has to hold at its current level for about 2 weeks more). And if/when it gets re-released during the oscar nominations, it could definitely break 100m.

[MadsenOMC]

Weekend Estimates:

1) HARRY POTTER - $20.4 million (-62.6%) $229 million
2) AEON FLUX - $13.1 million
3) WALK THE LINE - $10 million (-47.9%) $68.7 million
4) YOURS, MINE & OURS - $8.4 million (-51.9%) $34.5 million
5) JUST FRIENDS - $5.6 million (-39.1%) $21.1 million
6) PRIDE AND PREJUDICE - $4.624 million (-35.4%) $22.6 million
7) RENT - $4.6 million (-54.1%) $23.9 million
8) CHICKEN LITTLE - $4.5 million (-64.1%) $124.2 million
9) DERAILED - $2.4 million (-47.6%) $32.8 million
10) IN THE MIX - $1.9 million (-57.3%) $8.6 million

[thedudeman69]

Ok, Harry Potter made its money, now commence dropping like a rock.

[inglourious basterd]

Originally posted by thedudeman69
Ok, Harry Potter made its money, now commence dropping like a rock.

Being front heavy in the box office is great for the studios, but it sucks for the theaters. In the beginning of a film's run, the cut is usually 70/30. In the end of a film's run, it may be 30/70. I'm not sure about the numbers, but it is something like that. I think that HP is damned close to breaking even (from the worldwide BO and including marketing expenses). Once the DVD comes out in April, it will make a shitload of pure profit.

[Jon Lyrik]

I wouldn't say Potter is dropping badly at all considering its drop is only like 5% more than the first movie post-Thanksgiving weekend.

[AmunRaTRON]

im very happy to see that harry potter was number one over the weekend(also the first movie of the year to stay there three weeks in a row) it was a great movie, i saw aeon flux over the weekend and it was ok but i can understand its entry into the top ten as being less than steller. next week we have narnia which looks interesting to me, but im not as excited about it as i was potter or batman, or any other movie this year. the one thing i dont like is that a lot of christian organizations are giving it the thumbs up. it bothers me when churchs start saying whats good and whats not. (call me a potter fan but if narnia makes more domesticly than Gof im going to shake the shit out of somebody) im going to go with narnia having a 50-60 mil opening and then kong knocking it down to 2nd. however the fact that these two movies are opening up so close together tells me that kong probably isnt going to recoup it's budget back.i may be wrong about this, however placing these two heavy weights within days of eachother does force the consumer to choose between the two. which is a good thing mind you, the only thing i fear is them splitting what would otherwise be a single movie gross. for example, narnia opens at 50 and kong opens at 50. but i guess this will show what movie has legs and what doesnt then eh?

tron out

[inglourious basterd]

Yahoo posts the box office totals every week as well. They had a headline that made me laugh:

"Harry hotter than Charlize this weekend".

Brilliant. :D :p :D :p

[NightStalkerGtx]

Friday Est

CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE, THE 23.4------------------ 23.4
SYRIANA 3.8------------------- 5.3
HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE 2.8------------- 241.0
WALK THE LINE 1.7------------------ 73.0
AEON FLUX 1.4-------------- 17.1
YOURS, MINE & OURS 1.4----------------- 37.2
JUST FRIENDS 1.3----------------- 24.0
PRIDE AND PREJUDICE .8--------------- 24.7
RENT .7-------------- 25.6
CHICKEN LITTLE .5--------------------- 125.4

[Tuukka]

Narnia should make roughly 65-70 million for the weekend. Great opening! Should be a lock for 200+ million now.

[MadsenOMC]

I'm seeing double.

[Tuukka]

Narnia and KK are going to help the year's B.O results to bounce back closer to 2004 levels. While KK's opening numbers will be inflated because of it's 3-hour lenght, it should open with over 25 million on Wednesday.

[NightStalkerGtx]

Narnia wont make 65 mil the fans prob rushed out opening day to see thus it will most likely have a drop on sat to 19-21 and theres no way its making 20 mil on sunday it should drop to at least 15

so lets add
23
21
15

i see a 58 - 61 mil opening.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
Narnia wont make 65 mil the fans prob rushed out opening day to see thus it will most likely have a drop on sat to 19-21 and theres no way its making 20 mil on sunday it should drop to at least 15

so lets add
23
21
15

i see a 58 - 61 mil opening.

It's also a first film in series, and has strong kiddie/family appeal, thus making it less frontloaded.

[thedudeman69]

I see Narnia making 65-80 millon this weekend.

[Thiago]

You forgot to add the really staggering figure! Brokeback Mountain did approximately $0.2M this friday, out of only 5 theatres, and will do over $0.5M this weekend, having a $100,000 per theatrer average! (And that is a conservative estimate!) Now THAT is something!

[Tuukka]

Weekend Estimates
NARNIA $67,064,000 NEW $67,064,000
SYRIANA $12,030,000 +2,207.2% $13,529,000

[daddiefatsacks]

wow narnia kicked some ass

[Jon Lyrik]

Fantastic for Narnia.

Now for Kong...

[thedudeman69]

Narnia did great.

[Tuukka]

1 N The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe BV $67,064,000 NEW 3,616 - $18,546 $67,064,000 1
2 19 Syriana WB $12,030,000 +2,207.2% 1,752 +1,743 $6,866 $13,529,000 3
3 1 Harry Potter WB $10,315,000 -48.1% 3,728 -130 $2,766 $244,119,000 4
4 3 Walk the Line Fox $5,750,000 -39.7% 3,034 -126 $1,895 $77,003,000 4
5 4 Yours, Mine and Ours Par. $5,150,000 -37.6% 3,210 - $1,604 $40,917,000 3
6 2 Aeon Flux Par. $4,625,000 -63.5% 2,608 - $1,773 $20,282,000 2
7 5 Just Friends NL $3,900,000 -30.4% 2,464 -41 $1,582 $26,464,000 3
8 8 Pride and Prejudice Focus $2,491,000 -43.3% 1,335 +8 $1,865 $26,385,000 5
9 7 Chicken Little BV $2,256,000 -48.8% 2,326 -695 $969 $127,230,000 6
10 6 Rent SonR $2,000,000 -55.0% 1,971 -466 $1,014 $26,912,000 3

11 9 Derailed Wein. $1,268,000 -44.9% 1,128 -574 $1,124 $34,720,000 5
12 17 The Polar Express IMAX $946,000 +12.9% 66 - $14,333 $3,832,000 3
14 N Memoirs of a Geisha Sony $674,000 NEW 8 - $84,250 $674,000 1
16 N Brokeback Mountain Focus $545,000 NEW 5 - $109,000 $545,000 1
N/A N Mrs. Henderson Presents Wein. $58,200 NEW 6 - $9,700 $58,200 1

[Thiago]

Great numbers for Narnia!

And WOW! At number 16 in the box office, Brokeback just made box office history as its $109,000 per theatrer average is the highest one ever, for a live action film!

[Tuukka]

The folks at worldofkj are tracking down the wednesday number for KK and it seems at this point that it will make around 16-17 million. Less than I expected, but it's a normal non-holiday wednesday, so it's still very good. LOTR:FOTR made 16 million on it's wednesday opening, but I don't quite see KK being equally leggy in the long run.

[inglourious basterd]

Originally posted by Tuukka
The folks at worldofkj are tracking down the wednesday number for KK and it seems at this point that it will make around 16-17 million. Less than I expected, but it's a normal non-holiday wednesday, so it's still very good. LOTR:FOTR made 16 million on it's wednesday opening, but I don't quite see KK being equally leggy in the long run.

Three things:

1) King Kong is as long as LOTR: FOTR and if it can match its opening, then I'd consider it pretty successful.

2) If the critical and WOM from our schmoes are an indication of how this movie will be received by the majority, it seems that this film could be a blockbuster on the scope of T2 or Jurassic Park. You could be very well be right about it not being as leggy as LOTR. But I have a feeling that there is a slight possibility that it could stick around in the theaters for a while.

3) If King Kong does have the legs to stick at the top spot for more than 3-4 weeks, then the recently released King Kong "production diaries" are sure to be a money maker for Universal (and, because the feature film is not included in the set, the DVDs may interestingly cycle back into the box office revenue by persuading people who are willing to purchase the set to have repeat viewings). I'd imagine that those dvds are pure profit.

[Tuukka]

KK will certainly make a healthy profit for the studio. The worst case scenario is 500 million worldwide and another 500 million on DVD. Even with the massive budget and marketing costs it will make a good profit.

Crowd reports around the net indicate that on it's opening day KK was playing around 70% to male audiences, mostly between 15-30 years old. The marketing and the concept were apparently not working properly for females and 30+ year old's.

In comparison, LOTR movies played 50/50 to both genders, and to all age groups.

However, I think the very strong WOM will convert a lot of people to see KK, even if they have not been excited before the opening. It should be less frontloaded and more leggy than expected.

[Tuukka]

from SBD:


No Title Distributor Scrns Daily Gross Avg Total Gross
1. KING KONG UNIVERSAL 3,567 10,030,000 2,812 10,030,000
2. CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE, THE BUENA VISTA 3,616 3,440,000 951 77,666,000
3. SYRIANA WARNER BROS. 1,752 810,000 462 16,102,000
4. HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE WARNER BROS. 3,728 590,000 158 246,049,000
5. WALK THE LINE UNIVERSAL 3,034 445,000 147 78,481,000
6. PRIDE AND PREJUDICE FOCUS FEATURES 1,335 290,000 217 27,348,000
7. AEON FLUX PARAMOUNT 2,608 255,000 98 21,188,000
8. JUST FRIENDS NEW LINE 2,464 245,000 99 27,173,000
9. YOURS, MINE & OURS PARAMOUNT 3,210 205,000 64 41,459,000
10. RENT SONY 1,971 135,000 68 27,411,000
11. POLAR EXPRESS, THE WARNER BROS. 66 124,585 1,888 166,963,271
12. CHICKEN LITTLE BUENA VISTA 2,326 115,000 49 127,660,000
13. BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN FOCUS FEATURES 5 112,314 22,463 861,000
14. MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA SONY 8 64,764 8,096 910,000
15. GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK. WARNER BROS. 512 45,000 88 22,052,000

...That's much lower than expected for KK. It's VERY interesting to see how it behaves in the next few days - Will it jump up like Shrek 2 did from a wednesday opening, or is it actually going to be a relative bomb?

[MadsenOMC]

Yeah looks like worldofkj was pretty far off this time. I don't think it's a bad omen for KK. I know that I'm dying to see it, but I don't have time until this weekend. I imagine that's the case for a lot of people. If it had opened during Christmas break and made $10 million its first day, that would be a different story.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Yeah looks like worldofkj was pretty far off this time. I don't think it's a bad omen for KK. I know that I'm dying to see it, but I don't have time until this weekend. I imagine that's the case for a lot of people. If it had opened during Christmas break and made $10 million its first day, that would be a different story.

I'm seeing the film tomorrow so I don't know if I will like it, but at the moment I REALLY hope it recovers and the disappointing opening day attributes to factors which weren't counted on - People being busy with school, exams, work, shopping, etc, on the week before christmas.

I would just be a shame that a film which had so much love and passion put to it would fail... :(

But the friday number will be the real test.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Tuukka
People being busy with school, exams, work, shopping, etc, on the week before christmas.


I really believe that is why yesterday's number isn't bigger. Most people are still really busy right now and probably didn't have the time or energy to see it on opening night.

[Tuukka]

At least this is really good news for Narnia which should have a solid hold this weekend. Competition from KK is not going to hit it hard, like I thought. Even if KK recovers on Friday, it's going to have "only" a really strong weekend, instead of a massive one.

[Judge_Smails]

Let the spin begin...

[Jon Lyrik]

This is more like Batman Begins if you ask me. That opened to "only" $15 million on a summer Wednesday. It would surely have had an opening day similar to Kong's had it opened on its slot.

King Kong's current word of mouth is fantastic (#7 of all time and an A- on Yahoo, which made up of average joes and not movie geeks like IMDb is), as Begins' was. I remember some doomsayers for Begins as well, and look how that turned out

[Pigpen]

The real "spin" comes with the numbers on Monday.

[dellamorte dellamore]

King Kong , 200 mil 5 day :D .

[Jon Lyrik]

Kong did $6.2 million on Thursday.

Waiting for Friday...

[dman476]

Man, I hope Kong doesn't flop. That would be a total bummer for all of us fans, and most of all, Jackson and co. with Universal.

I really hope things pick up on friday.

[Lazy Boy]

I hope this isn't a repeat of Godzilla...overhyped monster-movie remake that underperforms in the opening weekend.

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
I hope this isn't a repeat of Godzilla...overhyped monster-movie remake that underperforms in the opening weekend.

The key differences between Godzilla and King Kong is that King Kong is the better film on all fronts. It is not all that overhyped.

[AgentSmith]

I would imagine a 15-20 Million Dollar gross for Friday. Not quite sure why they opened on a Wednesday when only die-hard people would go out and see it. Not everyone has time after work to go see a 3hr film.

[NightStalkerGtx]

Friday Est.

KING KONG 14.4 30.4

CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE,

THE 9.0 90.2

FAMILY STONE 4.1 4.1

SYRIANA 1.6 18.5

HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE 1.5 248.1

WALK THE LINE 1.0 79.9

YOURS, MINE & OURS 1.0 42.6

BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN .7 1.7

JUST FRIENDS .7 28.1

AEON FLUX .5 22.0

[Jon Lyrik]

Not bad for Kong. Should do $45 million for the weekend and will certainly cross its budget. $250 million is probable if you ask me, with the extraordinary word-of-mouth and Oscar potential.

[inglourious basterd]

It looks like Kong will probably get 48 million for the weekend and about 64 million for the 5 day. That is underwhelming, but the strong WOM shoudl translate into a small dropoff in the second week.

[Jon Lyrik]

I think Kong's real opening potential was overestimated by everyone (including me). This is a marathon runner, not a sprinter.

So I would consider its opening good anyway, on par with Fellowship of the Ring. I could see its legs being similar too.

[Lazy Boy]

People are pretty fickle and change their minds about a film on the drop of a hat. On another message board I frequent, before KK was released, people were getting all excited by the buzz, the early great reviews, and the possibility about how many Oscar noms this might get. Now that it's first few B.O. numbers are out, these same people are like "Kong is Dead!" and "It's definitely out of the race."

Sheesh, give it some time to build. It's three freakin' hours. It opened on par with FOTR. I think it might hold up in the next few weeks.

Now, if it falls more than 50 percent next weekend, then I would say it's hurting.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
People are pretty fickle and change their minds about a film on the drop of a hat. On another message board I frequent, before KK was released, people were getting all excited by the buzz, the early great reviews, and the possibility about how many Oscar noms this might get. Now that it's first few B.O. numbers are out, these same people are like "Kong is Dead!" and "It's definitely out of the race."

Sheesh, give it some time to build. It's three freakin' hours. It opened on par with FOTR. I think it might hold up in the next few weeks.

Now, if it falls more than 50 percent next weekend, then I would say it's hurting.

Mmm-hmm.

I've stuck by my guns without much quivering, though. Not opening-wise of course but total-wise.

[Lazy Boy]

I'm REALLY impressed by the numbers for Brokeback Mountain, based on the fact that it's only playing in 69 theaters, and it's broken through to the lower rungs of the top ten.

[Thiago]

That must be another record that Brokeback set, right? I don´t really remember any movie with less than 100 theatres to enter the TOP-10 or do that amount of money. Is that right?
Well, it´s incredible anyway.

[inglourious basterd]

Originally posted by Thiago
That must be another record that Brokeback set, right? I don´t really remember any movie with less than 100 theatres to enter the TOP-10 or do that amount of money. Is that right?
Well, it´s incredible anyway.

You have to look at its per screen average. Right now its making about $11k per screen per day. Last weekend it was making $33k per screen per day.

You could see the record for per screen averages here: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/theateravg.htm?page=THTRAVG&p=.htm

It is seems to have the highest per-screen average ever for a non-disney film.

[ilovemovies]

I heard on the news that because this is the last weekend before Christmas, this could be a huge weekend for shopping. So will that hurt King Kong's boxoffice for the weekend as well?

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
I heard on the news that because this is the last weekend before Christmas, this could be a huge weekend for shopping. So will that hurt King Kong's boxoffice for the weekend as well?

It's not harming any other movie it seems, so no.

[ChemicalRomance]

King Kong Weekend Estimate:

$50,148,000

Bring it's 5 day total up to: $66,200,000

...Uhhhhhhh...

[Jon Lyrik]

Not bad at all.

It's a lock to pass its budget. I'm willing to bet it's a probabilty to pass $260 million as well (it would need ROTK's multiplier to do that).

[NightStalkerGtx]

well even though i didnt like king kong can u say "meet the fockers kind of succes" it started off pretty much the same on weekend and look how much it ended up doing. (i also hated the movie to)

[Lazy Boy]

The weekend multiplier for Kong came in at 3.48, so that's probably a good sign for the time being.

[NightStalkerGtx]

Estimates for Friday, December, 23, 2005
CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE, 8.2 141.7

KING KONG 8.2 95.5

FUN WITH DICK AND JANE 5.6 12.9

CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN 2 4.0 9.3

MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA 2.8 5.9

RINGER, THE 2.4 2.4

FAMILY STONE 2.4 21.6

HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE 1.6 258.3

MUNICH 1.4 1.4

SYRIANA 1.1 26.8

Chronicles beat kong woo!!! I knew the film wouldnt have great word of mouth (4/10 from me).

[EDsoulsurvive*]

The battle for number 1 isnt over yet...

[Lazy Boy]

Hmm, that doesn't look really good for Brokeback Mountain -- it made the top ten last week on only 69 screens, yet it increased screens this week and dropped out.

Kong still might win out the weekend, but it really isn't crushing Narnia, like many people I knew said it would.

[Jon Lyrik]

The weekend is gonna be interesting, with the 24th being on Saturday it will mess everything up.

Narnia will win the weekend out though, I'm fairly certain of that.

[APzombie]

acording to boxofficemojo, Kong bairly toped the friday numbers, not sure if it will gain the weekend (Narnia might be a big title for christmas eve due to its christian elements).

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

It's still gonna be close between Narina and Kong and it should be interesting to see how it turns out. Either way, they're both doing very well. Kong's on it's way to surpass $100 million (and has already made over $200 million worldwide), and I believe Narnia's already surpassed it's budget domestically.

Should be a real interesting weekend to say the least. On a side note, I noticed someone putting Narnia as being ahead in the box office friday, but boxoffice mojo says differently that Kong won Friday.

[APzombie]

well mojo said that they are all really estamates until official word comes out monday due to the holidays.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Originally posted by APzombie
well mojo said that they are all really estamates until official word comes out monday due to the holidays.

That's true, but estimates are usually pretty close to the actuals anyway. Usually. ;)

[Jon Lyrik]

4-Day estimates:

KK-31.4
Narnia –30.1
FWD&J – 23.5
Chep2 – 14.8
TFS – 10.9
Geisha – 10.2
Ringer – 8.4
Rumor – 7.5
Wolf Creek – 5.9
HP4 – 5.7

From AC Nielson.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Haha! In your face Narnia! :D

[Lazy Boy]

Kong beat it by a million dollars. It wasn't like Narnia was creamed -- it's holding up rather well in the face of Kong, despite the predictions of some PJ fanboys.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
Kong beat it by a million dollars. It wasn't like Narnia was creamed -- it's holding up rather well in the face of Kong, despite the predictions of some PJ fanboys.

Well of course it held up well, it's a Christmas movie with Christian elements (my church even took a bunch of kids to see it). I was just happy to see Kong in the number one spot again, myself. It's well on its way to making it's budget back before the end of it's run, despite the many naysayers saying that it was a bomb for making "only" $66 million in it's opening.

[Lazy Boy]

I just responded about Narnia because I'm tired of hearing other people on other message boards (Rotten Tomatoes) bash it (and its audience taste) for actually providing competition for KK.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
I just responded about Narnia because I'm tired of hearing other people on other message boards (Rotten Tomatoes) bash it (and its audience taste) for actually providing competition for KK.

Okay, no problem. I honestly have no problem with Narnia (I haven't seen it yet, but probably will by the time it's out of theaters). Both films have held up rather well and it was fun to see the two run neck and neck this weekend. :)

[Jon Lyrik]

3-day numbers:

1 1 King Kong Uni. $21,313,000 -57.5% 3,576 +8 $5,960 $108,617,000 $207 2
2 2 The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe BV $20,379,000 -36.0% 3,853 +173 $5,289 $153,822,000 $180 3
3 N Fun with Dick and Jane Sony $14,500,000 - 3,056 - $4,744 $22,061,000 $100 1
4 N Cheaper by the Dozen 2 Fox $9,350,000 - 3,175 - $2,944 $14,632,000 - 1
5 12 Memoirs of a Geisha Sony $6,800,000 +422.1% 1,547 +1,495 $4,395 $9,889,000 $85 3
6 3 The Family Stone Fox $6,725,000 -46.3% 2,469 +3 $2,723 $25,925,000 $18 2
7 N The Ringer FoxS $5,275,000 - 1,829 - $2,884 $5,275,000 - 1
8 N Munich Uni. $4,094,000 - 532 - $7,695 $4,094,000 $70 1
9 4 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire WB $3,920,000 -34.1% 2,521 -664 $1,554 $260,635,000 $150 6
10 - Rumor Has It WB $3,470,000 - 2,815 - $1,232 $3,470,000 - 0
11 5 Syriana WB $3,190,000 -43.1% 1,725 -50 $1,849 $28,830,000 $50 5
12 - Wolf Creek Wein. $2,762,000 - 1,749 - $1,579 $2,762,000 - 0

That's bad for Kong, but Christmas Eve fucked things up significantly for every film (Narnia I bet would have had an even smaller drop), I would say. Factoring that out it probably would have dropped about 50% even for the 3-day.

[MisterChristian]

from The Hollywood Reporter


'Kong' still king of boxoffice with $31.4 million
"King Kong" and "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" battled for the four-day boxoffice crown with the giant ape finally swiping the Christmas holiday prize. A Sunday night surge gave "King Kong" the needed push for the No. 1 spot with about $31.4 million, edging "Narnia's" estimated $30.1 million take.

1. "King Kong," $31.4 million.
2. "The Chronicles of Narnia," $30.1 million.
3. "Fun With Dick and Jane," $23.5 million.
4. "Cheaper by the Dozen 2," $14.8 million.
5. "The Family Stone," $10.9 million.
6. "Memoirs of a Geisha," $10.2 million.
7. "The Ringer," $8.4 million.
8. "Rumor Has It," $7.5 million.
9. "Wolf Creek," $5.9 million.
10. "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire," $5.7 million.

[ChemicalRomance]

Something stinks...oh it's Kong.

[Lazy Boy]

Friday's Estimates (12/30)

1. THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE - 9.5 million
2. KING KONG - 8.6 million
3. FUN WITH DICK AND JANE - 6.1 million
4. CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN 2 - 5.5 million
5. RUMOR HAS IT - 3.2 million
6. MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA - 2.8 million
7. FAMILY STONE - 2.7 million
8. THE RINGER - 2.4 million
9. HARRY POTTER AND THE GLOBLET OF FIRE - 2.3 million
10. MUNICH - 1.5 million

Showbizdata.com

[MadsenOMC]

And just outside of the top 10:

Wolf Creek - $1.4 million
Syriana - $1.4 million
The Producers - $1.3 million
Brokeback Mountain - $1.2 million

[Jon Lyrik]

Narnia is kicking ass. $300 million is looking more and more probable.

Kong is on a great rebound. It needs a Best Picture nomination to get $250+ million. I see it getting the fifth slot, but Crash and A History of Violence are really gunning for it too.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Kong is holding steady, which is great news. Looks like there won't be a big drop from last weekend to this weekend. And yes, Narnia's kicking all kinds of ass.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Mr. Fred Krueger
Looks like there won't be a big drop from last weekend to this weekend.

Of course not, it's the holiday weekend. It will be fine afterwards too, as long as it doesn't hemmorage theaters.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
Of course not, it's the holiday weekend. It will be fine afterwards too, as long as it doesn't hemmorage theaters.

That's true, I honestly never knew how films did over New Years. Most people go out and party, not out to the flicks (or so I thought).

[MadsenOMC]

Weekend Estimates (12/30-1/1):

1) Narnia - $25.6 million
2) King Kong - $24.6 million
3) Fun With Dick and Jane - $16.5 million
4) Cheaper by the Dozen 2 - $14.2 million
5) Rumor Has It - $9.3 million
6) The Family Stone - $8 million
7) Memoirs of a Geisha - $7.7 million
8) The Ringer - $7 million
9) HP - $6.3 million
10) Munich - $4.7 million

I figured these out with a combination of numbers from showbizdata and boxofficemojo.

[MadsenOMC]

Here are four-day weekend estimates from boxofficeguru:

1) Narnia - $32.848 million
2) King Kong - $31.591 million
3) Fun With Dick and Jane - $21 million
4) Cheaper by the Dozen 2 - $19.3 million
5) Rumor Has It - $11.6 million
6) The Family Stone - $10.2 million
7) Memoirs of a Geisha - $10 million
8) The Ringer - $8 million
9) HP - $7.46 million
10) Munich - $6.1 million

[NightStalkerGtx]

It wasn't airplanes that killed the beast. It wasnt beauty that killed the beast... It was Narnia killed the beast!!!

[Lazy Boy]

Narnia is holding up much better than I thought, even with the Christian audience and little kid support.

Kong is doing fine in the face of the instantaneous bemoaning following its first week take.

[EDsoulsurvive*]

Fridays numbers from showbizdata:
1. HOSTEL 7.6
2. CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE, THE 4.0
3. FUN WITH DICK AND JANE 3.8
4. KING KONG 3.4
5. CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN 2 2.3
6. MUNICH 2.3
7. RUMOR HAS IT 1.8
8. MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA 1.8
9. BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN 1.7
10. RINGER, THE 1.5

Great number for Hostel, I can't wait to see it tonight. Is it safe to say R-rated horror is back? And color me surprised, Dick and Jane ahead of Kong?

Also, i think this is the first potterless top ten in over a month...

[Backstabba]

No Grandmas Boy OR Bloodrayne?...

......But yeah, great number for Hostel.

[XCoRyX]

LOVING them numbers...Hostel suprassed what I had predicted it would do the whole damn weekend,which is a good thing.

Awesome!

[slasherfan]

Looks like Uwes got another disaster, and will muster up $100 for his next flick.

OUCH! To make matters WORSE, they spent an extra $22 million on advertising Bloodrayne!
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=bloodrayne.htm

[XCoRyX]

Originally posted by slasherfan
Looks like Uwes got another disaster, and will muster up $100 for his next flick.

OUCH! To make matters WORSE, they spent an extra $22 million on advertising Bloodrayne!
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=bloodrayne.htm

Yeah really just bad stuff. I did see ALOT of TV Spots for it too in my area, so it definetly got some good advertisements around here.

[MadsenOMC]

I saw a lot of ads too, especially on MTV. My girlfriend, who never heard of the movie and has no idea who Uwe Boll is, could not believe that it was a theatrical release when she saw a TV spot. She laughed her ass off during the clip and practically fell out of her chair when I told her it was a new movie going to theaters. Sometimes you can sell shit, but you have to put together a nice package. Here, they didn't even do that. It was doomed from the start.

[Lazy Boy]

Friday's numbers (1/13)

1. GLORY ROAD - 4.5 mil
2. LAST HOLIDAY - 3.7 mil
3. HOSTEL - 3.2 mil
4. HOODWINKED! - 2.7 mil
5. FUN WITH DICK AND JANE - 2.6 mil
6. TRISTAN & ISOLDE - 2.5 mil
7. THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE - 2.3 mil
8. KING KONG - 1.8 mil
9. BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN - 1.6 mil
10. MUNICH - 1.4 mil

showbizdata.com

[Backstabba]

Saturday estimates. (showbizdata.com)

1. HOODWINKED! 5,523,000
2. GLORY ROAD 5,371,000
3. LAST HOLIDAY, THE 5,351,000
4. CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE, THE 4,430,000
5. HOSTEL 3,756,000
6. FUN WITH DICK AND JANE 3,700,000
7. KING KONG 3,246,000
8. TRISTAN & ISOLDE 2,410,000
9. CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN 2 2,290,000
10. BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN 2,261,000

...Hoodwinked #1?....

....But...but how?

[Lazy Boy]

Hoodwinked! will probably keep the number one spot this weekend, but I don't think it's overall take is going to be great at all. Uninspired hackwork at its worst? Sure, why not.

Though, it did cost 15 million (and looks it). So it might make some decent bank. Who knows.

[XCoRyX]

Damn Hostel took a huge dive downward...

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Originally posted by XCoRyX
Damn Hostel took a huge dive downward...

Meh, it's normal for horror movies to go that far down after it's initial release. It doesn't really matter in the case of Hostel seeing as it's already profitable and has a sequel in the works.

[Lazy Boy]

Friday Estimates (1/20)

1. UNDERWORLD: EVOLUTION - 10.6
2. GLORY ROAD - 2.6
3. LAST HOLIDAY - 2.4
4. BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN - 2.1
5. HOODWINKED! - 2.1
6. FUN WITH DICK AND JANE - 1.7
7. END OF SPEAR - 1.5
8. THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE - 1.4
9. HOSTEL - 1.4
10. THE NEW WORLD - 1.2

showbizdata.com

[EDsoulsurvive*]

color me surprised, i didnt think underworld was that popular.

And did match point expand this weekend?

[Lazy Boy]

Match Point expanded to 441 screens this weekend.

[Backstabba]

The New World isn't doing well....

AND END OF THE SPEAR?....What the fuck is that?...

And Underworld is very popular, its pretty suprising.

[Lazy Boy]

Originally posted by Backstabba
AND END OF THE SPEAR?....What the fuck is that?...

A propaganda piece about missionaries going into the heart of the jungle to cure some 'savages' of their 'heathen' ways and get them hooked on J.C.

[dannywalker17]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
A propaganda piece about missionaries going into the heart of the jungle to cure some 'savages' of their 'heathen' ways and get them hooked on J.C.


Maybe you should see it before you judge it. It is in fact NOT propaganda. It's not even remotely preachy and does not depict the natives as "savage" or "heathen". Sounds like you're the one that's prejudiced.

[dannywalker17]

www.endofthespear.com

Trailer (http://www.everytribe.com/Movies/EndOfTheSpear.aspx)

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Wow, I'm surprised as to how well Underworld is doing. I didn't think the first one had too many fans. Hell, I didn't think much of it either but with the reviews I've been reading I think I may catch it myself.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Mr. Fred Krueger
Wow, I'm surprised as to how well Underworld is doing. I didn't think the first one had too many fans. Hell, I didn't think much of it either but with the reviews I've been reading I think I may catch it myself.

It did really good on video, so it definitely has gained a sizable fanbase.

[Lazy Boy]

Originally posted by dannywalker17
Maybe you should see it before you judge it. It is in fact NOT propaganda. It's not even remotely preachy and does not depict the natives as "savage" or "heathen". Sounds like you're the one that's prejudiced.

Propaganda: the systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.

Not that propaganda is a bad word, but it can be used to describe a particular POV.

Maybe YOU should read the reviews which have described the movie as such.

"This ersatz jungle adventure is really a thinly disguised Sunday School lesson in faith, charity and the savagery of life without Christ."
-- Ken Fox, TV GUIDE'S MOVIE GUIDE

"Not an emotional powerhouse so much as a dutiful public service announcement."
-- Wesley Morris, BOSTON GLOBE

"Coy crypto-Christian claptrap masquerading as feel-good ethnography."
-- Mark Holcomb, VILLAGE VOICE

"It's an ooga-booga movie dressed in 'anthropological' empathy."
-- Owen Gleiberman, ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY

[Jon Lyrik]

Have you seen the movie? I'm pretty openly anti-religion but I think it's a little unfair to slam it so strongly as Christian propaganda without viewing it.

[Lazy Boy]

No, but based on the similar shared viewpoint of critics whom I respect, plus the fact that I can't stand films like The Omega Code and its ilk, I'm sensing the worst with this film. It looks like propaganda, and most of the negative reviews point it out as such. Yes, I probably should see it to get a wider viewpoint.

People either rip or praise a movie on these boards before the release, so I figure my thinking this looks like crap would be no problem, but oh well.

[dannywalker17]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
I can't stand films like The Omega Code and its ilk, I'm sensing the worst with this film.

This is NOTHING like the Omega Code or Left Behind or any "Christian" film that has come before. The name Jesus is never even mentioned.

There is nothing about it that shoves anything down your throat, so it's pretty hard to call it propaganda. Sure the reviewers have said that over and over again about this and other Christian films, but they also ignore the fact that a lot of movies they praise are far more preachy about one issue or another. End of the Spear is about ending violence, which I thought was a favorite for Hollywood types, but I guess even a hint of Christianity is an utter turn off.

I remember just a few weeks ago everyone having a fuss about the TV show The Book of Daniel before they could possibly have seen it because it hadn't premiered yet. And the liberal press criticized them for that, rightfully so. So I don't think it's right for you to dismiss the film as something so negative as PROPAGANDA without having seen it.

[Lazy Boy]

Originally posted by dannywalker17
There is nothing about it that shoves anything down your throat, so it's pretty hard to call it propaganda. Sure the reviewers have said that over and over again about this and other Christian films, but they also ignore the fact that a lot of movies they praise are far more preachy about one issue or another. End of the Spear is about ending violence, which I thought was a favorite for Hollywood types, but I guess even a hint of Christianity is an utter turn off.

I do agree with your point about most Hollywood movies on the left side of the political spectrum. I'm an equal opportunity cynic -- sure, I could agree with Syriana because I'm equally as angered by the whole oil thing, but I have to judge it as a film, and it fails in that aspect. Most critics do give a fair shake to these films because of their "importance" and "relevance" to our current times. At the same time, there's the opposite group of religious people, many (not all, mind you) see movies that similarly reaffirm their faith, but these movies are similarly bloated, etc. in comparison to "liberal" films like Syriana or Good Night and Good Luck.

[dannywalker17]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
I do agree with your point about most Hollywood movies on the left side of the political spectrum. I'm an equal opportunity cynic -- sure, I could agree with Syriana because I'm equally as angered by the whole oil thing, but I have to judge it as a film, and it fails in that aspect. Most critics do give a fair shake to these films because of their "importance" and "relevance" to our current times. At the same time, there's the opposite group of religious people, many (not all, mind you) see movies that similarly reaffirm their faith, but these movies are similarly bloated, etc. in comparison to "liberal" films like Syriana or Good Night and Good Luck.


I think your right, however having seen End of the Spear, I don't think it is on the same level of proselitizing as some of those more liberal movies you're mentioning. As far as the amount of "propaganda", I would say those kinds of movies are equal to your Left Behinds and Omega Codes. But really it's all a matter of opinion and I think that if you saw it you would agree that it is not really very preachy. It's a human story.

[Lazy Boy]

Saturday Estimates

1. UNDERWORLD: EVOLUTION - 10.5
2. HOODWINKED! - 5.1
3. GLORY ROAD - 4.4
4. LAST HOLIDAY - 4.2
5. BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN - 3.3
6. CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE - 3.1
7. FUN WITH DICK AND JANE - 2.8
8. KING KONG - 2.1
9. HOSTEL - 1.9
10. THE NEW WORLD - 1.8

showbizdata.com

[Lazy Boy]

That's a pretty good hold for U:E from Friday to Saturday. I would've thought a large drop would come (more likely for next weekend).

Terrence Malick fans like myself should be happy, since this is the highest The New World will go in the top ten before it drops next week. It's more of a game of "see how many people walk out before the midway point" apropos to the walkouts for The Thin Red Line (:mad:)

[Lazy Boy]

Full Weekend Estimates (boxofficemojo.com)

1. Underworld: Evolution - 27.6 mil
2. Hoodwinked! - 11.1 mil
3. Glory Road - 9.1 mil
4. Last Holiday - 9.1 mil
5. Brokeback Mountain - 7.8 mil
6. Fun With Dick and Jane - 6.1 mil
7. The Chronicles of Narnia - 6.1 mil
8. End of the Spear - 4.7 mil
9. Hostel - 4.3 mil
10. The New World - 4.3 mil

[APzombie]

Now that King Kong is out of the top ten after only six weeks, I think it is safe to say it wont push the Titanic stability in numbers as most fans suspected.

I'm finding it more and more interesting thst if a film has christian elements it is concidered right wing propoganda, though this is just what i have heard about end of the spear, im planning on seeing it sometime ths week.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
It did really good on video, so it definitely has gained a sizable fanbase. And a fuckload of merchandise, it's amazing.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by APzombie
Now that King Kong is out of the top ten after only six weeks, I think it is safe to say it wont push the Titanic stability in numbers as most fans suspected.

That wasn't even fans, that was Universal media spin.

[MadsenOMC]

Friday's Estimates (showbizdata)

1) BIG MOMMA'S HOUSE 2 - $8.4 million
2) NANNY MCPHEE - $3.6 million
3) UNDERWORLD: EVOLUTION - $3.3 million
4) ANNAPOLIS - $2.7 million
5) BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN - $1.9 million
6) HOODWINKED! - $1.7 million
7) GLORY ROAD - $1.6 million
8) LAST HOLIDAY - $1.3 million
9) NARNIA - $1 million
10) FUN WITH DICK AND JANE - $1 million

[EDsoulsurvive*]

color me surprised. Big Momma's House 2 with over 8 million? what's wrong with america? and this is not as surprising but surprising nonetheless: undeworld dropped liked a log.

[Lazy Boy]

Sequels are the big thing. People don't care how bad they look, they still see 'em. Ugh.

U:E dropped big time, which isn't that much of a surprise.

Narnia is still hanging on. It should leave the top ten by next weekend, but it put up a good fight for coming close to two months.

[MadsenOMC]

U:E cost $50 million, according to IMDB. If it performs like the first one (multiplier of only 2.4), it will make about $65 million. Considering the huge Friday to Friday drop (69%), that seems highly likely. $65 million doesn't even cover the cost of production and P&A (at least $75-$80 million). I suppose it will do well on DVD though, and that will be enough to get a third made.

The numbers for BMH2 are to be expected. People loved the first one and the trailers connected well with the target audience. Lawrence can really open movies like this.

[ilovemovies]

Really? I think it looked incredibly stupid and I liked the first one a lot.

[Lazy Boy]

The first one made a lot of money, hence a sequel. If it had bombed, nobody would've made part douche, er, two.

It still looks bad, but humor is certainly subjective, and people did somehow find the first one to be funny.

[Lazy Boy]

Weekend Estimates (boxofficemojo.com)

1. Big Momma's House Two - 28 million
2. Nanny McPhee - 14.1 million
3. Underworld: Evolution - 11.1 million
4. Annapolis - 7.7 million
5. Hoodwinked - 7.4 million
6. Brokeback Mountain - 6.4 million
7. Glory Road - 5.2 million
8. Last Holiday - 4.8 million
9. The Chronicles of Narnia - 4.4 million
10. The Matador - 3.8 million

[darkface]

I'm going to kill myself. This is the end of movies now. Big Momma's house made almost 30 mil opening weekend. Here comes Big Momma's House 3 now.

Just seeing half of this weekend box office list makes me puke.

There are going to be 44 Sequels this year alone. and 46 came out last year. They way the box office is treating sequels so far, you can expect another 45 sequels next year too.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! -darth

[slasherfan]

Originally posted by darkface
I'm going to kill myself. This is the end of movies now. Big Momma's house made almost 30 mil opening weekend. Here comes Big Momma's House 3 now.

Just seeing half of this weekend box office list makes me puke.

There are going to be 44 Sequels this year alone. and 46 came out last year. They way the box office is treating sequels so far, you can expect another 45 sequels next year too.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! -darth

This coming from someone with two sequels listed on his favorite movie.

[Katsumoto]

What's sad is that Big Mama pulls in close to 30 million, but The New World has disappeared... there's something wrong with that.

[screamer581]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy

1. Big Momma's House Two - 28 million


God I hate this country.

[dellamorte dellamore]

No surprise about Big fat suit coming in number one , but i dint think it would take in that much . Mindless comedies can still make money , i havent seen a good one in awhile though , and this one looks mildly amusing , nothing more . I actually like Martin Lawrence in some movies , he can be funny when he wants to be , but he's much too sporadic , and i feel his best work was on the television show Martin .

Hoodwinked is hanging in there nicely . Underworld dropped harder than Pauly Shore's career after Son in Law , Brokebitch Hill is still luring in the curious ( should get a little boost next weekend with the Sag awards ) , Annapolis dint do too much , and The Chronicles of Peter Jackson is still in the top ten , a month and a half after it's release . That's funny because that movie would have never existed without PJ , and his King Kong is forgotten already . No doubt what people really want from him is the Hobbit , so he can show everybody how fantasy is done again . Oh yeah , i couldnt for the life of me watch two hours of Emma Thompson in that grotesque getup in Mcphee , i applaud the brave souls who did .

There is one way to sum up another weak top ten showing , ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz . When are the good movies coming ? Yeah , there's been a couple of excellent ones lately , but nothing to get excited about , save for King Kong .

[MadsenOMC]

Wow. A lot of people are really angry about Big Momma's House 2. But is it really any worse than, say, Underworld: Evolution? According to the critics it isn't. Both rate less than 4 out of 10 at rottentomatoes, and both are less than 15% fresh (they're only 7% fresh with cream of the crop critics). In addition, I would bet that the target audience for BMH2 likes the movie just as much as the target audience for U:E does. So it doesn't make much sense to be so pissed off about the box office success of BMH2 and not U:E. Is one really any more necessary than the other? And actually BMH was a lot more financially successful than Underworld, so of course it is going to have a sequel. So you have to be upset about both or neither. You can't have it both ways.

[EDsoulsurvive*]

well i just got back U:E and thoroughly enjoyed it (7/10), so madsen, your post really put things into perspective. That a very good point, although i disagree with the last line, mostly cause i am biased and i think big momma's house 2 looks atrocious. Seriously though, excellent post.

[MadsenOMC]

Hey I'm with you (and others). I think it looks awful as well and I have no plans to ever see it.

[slasherfan]

I think Mamma 2 looks awful also.
I wonder how When A Stranger Calls will do next week. It doesn't look to good.

[EDsoulsurvive*]

I think when a stranger calls is going to open at number one. I feel like i've been seeing ads for it since december. the marketing team has been doing a great job getting awareness up in the teen demographic, IMO.

[MadsenOMC]

When a Stranger Calls should not have any trouble opening at number one. It has no real competition as far as new releases go, and Big Momma's House 2 will probably drop around 50%. $15 million should be enough to be number one for the weekend. I don't think it's screening for critics. I know for sure that they aren't screening it for the press where I live. It looks pretty damn awful.

[ilovemovies]

Compared to the original When a Stranger Calls looks outright brilliant! I guess horror movies do well enough though it would be a pleasant surprise for me if Something New were to open on top since it looks much better.

[slasherfan]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
I don't think it's screening for critics. I know for sure that they aren't screening it for the press where I live. It looks pretty damn awful.
I don't think Sony screen any of their movies for the pree anymore.

[dellamorte dellamore]

I agree , Stranger should easily phone in a number one spot next weekend to the ring of 25 mil or so . Allright , i can't use puns effectively , but you get the hint . It should do well because it has a somewhat creepy premise ( creepy for teens ) , and it has a cute chick in the lead , and like Madsen said , what esle is out there ? Nothing at all really .

[Lazy Boy]

Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore
and it has a cute chick in the lead

Cute but inert actress Camilla Belle, whose blandness brought down all who surrounded her in The Ballad of Jack and Rose.

I've said it before, but the original film, beyond the "calls are coming from inside the house" line, was never that good, and the remake looks like a straight to video rental. But, it's being marketed well, and teens and young people will flock like birds.

[dellamorte dellamore]

I'm not saying it will be good , just saying it should make some decent money opening weekend , and one of the reasons why is because of the cute chick . Not exactly a tart , but sweet and innocent , a cliched antithesis to the evil , older man .

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy

I've said it before, but the original film, beyond the "calls are coming from inside the house" line, was never that good, and the remake looks like a straight to video rental. But, it's being marketed well, and teens and young people will flock like birds.

You're right, other than the first 15-20 minutes, the original is a pretty weak flick, which makes the idea of a remake not as ridiculous as it usually is. Too bad it looks so dumb. But, teens seem to eat up the trailer whenever I see it in a theater, and like someone else pointed out, the trailer has been in front of a lot movies these past few months. Should do very well, and it doesn't have to make all that much because the budget was apparently pretty low.

[ilovemovies]

Oh, god even if the movie is good I hope there is no sequal. Even though there is a sequal to the original (although I think it was a cable movie if I remember correctly).

[thedudeman69]

God, every fucking week it is you guys going "OMG, THE APOCOLYPSE IS COMING!!! BIG MOMMA'S HOUSE 2 GOT 30 MILLON!!!"
"THE NEW WORLD DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!!!"


Ok, Let's think about it . The New World is a limited movie and Big Momma 2 is like in 3,000 cinemas or something like that. So, tell me what people will see more? Big Momma 2 because it is in more cinemas and more convient. Some moviegoers aren't as dedicated as we are in finding limited releases and journeying out to see them.

[ilovemovies]

I agree. It's pointless to get angry when a movie like Big Momma's House 2 does well. I mean, sure, everyone wants the movies they like to do well and the movies don't like to do poorly, but you shouldn't get worked up about it.

And I'm actually glad The New World didn't make the top 10. I thought the movie was boring as hell. I still want Malik to make movies, but god I hope his next movie is more like The Thin Red Line (as in great) and less like The New World (which, well, to be quite brutally honest, sucked).

[thedudeman69]

Yes, even if Hollywood are the biggest greedest bastards alive, they still need to make money for what we all love, movies. :)

[Joshmo]

Originally posted by screamer581
God I hate this country.

I sympathize.

Not so much the Country I hate, but the majority who make up the Country that propelled this to not only #1, but the money it made.

Joe Walmart marches on.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Big momma is one of the reasons coke snorting executives still have jobs and one of the reasons i rarely go to the cinema anymore , it's pure garbage that should have gone straight to video where it belongs , and where you can watch while mortally drunk .


Oh well , some people are buying new houses because of it's success and they are also upgrading their current mistresses .

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore
Big momma is one of the reasons coke snorting executives still have jobs and one of the reasons i rarely go to the cinema anymore , it's pure garbage that should have gone straight to video where it belongs , and where you can watch while mortally drunk .


Oh well , some people are buying new houses because of it's success and they are also upgrading their current mistresses .

Once again, is it any worse than any other unnecessary sequel made these days? Are the reasons for its existence any different? I assume you feel the same way about Underworld:Evolution. Yes, BMH2 looks awful, but I find it strange that so many have singled it out. It's January, for one thing, and bad sequels are a dime a dozen.

[MadsenOMC]

Friday's Estimates (showbizdata):

1) WHEN A STRANGER CALLS - $9.4 million
2) BIG MOMMA'S HOUSE - $2.4 million
3) NANNY MCPHEE - $2.4 million
4) BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN - $2 million
5) SOMETHING NEW - $1.8 million
6) UNDERWORLD: EVOLUTION - $1.7 million
7) ANNAPOLIS - $1.3 million
8) HOODWINKED! - $1.2 million
9) WALK THE LINE - $1.1 million
10) GLORY ROAD - $1 million

[thedudeman69]

Well, When A Stranger Calls owned all the other movies because the damn teens.

[slasherfan]

Originally posted by thedudeman69
Well, When A Stranger Calls owned all the other movies because the damn teens.

It's not like it opened agains't anything else really. I bet it will drop big time.

[Raul Duke]

the first time I saw the commercial for When a Stranger Calls, I honestl thought it was a Geico commercial. I was waiting for the cop to say "We didnt trace the call.....but I did save a bunch of money on my car insurance" Something about the trailer and tv spots, that movie doesnt look official, it looks like a short or something.

[Backstabba]

I knew Stranger would make alot this weekend, I KNEW IT!...

..And Raul Duke, why do you have a picture of my wife as a avatar?...:D

[Benz]

Originally posted by thedudeman69
Well, When A Stranger Calls owned all the other movies because the damn teens.

Aren't you a teen? LOL ;-)

- Benz

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by Benz
Aren't you a teen? LOL ;-)

- Benz


I am smarter than the average teen. ;)

[MadsenOMC]

Weekend Estimates (boxofficemojo):

1) WHEN A STRANGER CALLS - $22 million
2) BIG MOMMA'S HOUSE 2 - $13.35 million
3) NANNY MCPHEE - $9.9 million
4) BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN - $5.679 million
5) HOODWINKED - $5.3 million
6) UNDERWORLD: EVOLUTION - $5.1 million
7) SOMETHING NEW - $5 million
8) ANNAPOLIS - $3.476 million
9) WALK THE LINE - $3.425 million
10) GLORY ROAD - $3 million

[someguy]

Originally posted by thedudeman69
I am smarter than the average bear.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Yogi-portrait.jpg

[EDsoulsurvive*]

I'm not surprised by Stranger's strong showing, it's marketing team did a great job penetrating the teen demographic. Too bad just about everyone (critics and audiences alike) said this movie sucks the big one. It really did look awful though, IMO. I haven't seen her in Chumscrubber but Camille Belle looks absolutely atrocious in the previews.

[APzombie]

At least people are still going to theaters to see movies, despite them seeing shitty ones.

on the bright side, this time of year gets dumped the cinema garbage, they'll be some great films coming out sooner or later.

[thedudeman69]

There are two reasons why I am starting to like March this year.


A damn fine movie month starting off with a Bruce Willis action flick called 16 Blocks, and my 19th birthday. :cool:

[MadsenOMC]

Friday's Estimates (showbizdata):

1) FINAL DESTINATION 3 - $7.4 million
2) PINK PANTHER - $5.9 million
3) FIREWALL - $4.4 million
4) CURIOUS GEORGE - $3.8 million
5) WHEN A STRANGER CALLS - $3.3 million
6) BIG MOMMA'S HOUSE 2 - $1.8 million
7) NANNY MCPHEE - $1.2 million
8) BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN - $1.2 million
9) SOMETHING NEW - $700,000
10) UNDERWORLD: EVOLUTION - $700,000

[EDsoulsurvive*]

FD3 definitly looks to surpass the opening of FD2, which pulled 16 million against The Recruit, if memory serves, for a second place finish. WTG, i hope to see this sometime in the near future, because i think first two are extremely entertaining.

[Lazy Boy]

Ugh, I can't believe The Pink Panther even made that much...I was hoping it would be one of the underperforming movies.

[Kevin Smith fan]

itll prolly end up making around 15 mill this weekend...which, a steve martin remake with beyonce knowles is pretty underproforming. my biggest suprise was curious george's performance. The marketing on this film wasn't present nearly at all, and it definitley shows in the numbres.

[MadsenOMC]

Weekend Estimates (boxofficeguru):

1) Pink Panther - $21.7 million
2) FD3 - $20.125 million
3) Curious George - $15.3 million
4) Firewall - $13.8 million
5) When a Stranger Calls - $10 million
6) BMH2 - $6.8 million
7) Nanny McPhee - $5.23 million
8) BBM - $4.192 million
9) Underworld: Evolution - $2.5 million
10) Hoodwinked - $2.5 million

[Lazy Boy]

I guess Steve Martin + remakes of old films equals solid box office success. First Cheaper by the Dozen, now The Pink Panther.

He's found the best formula for getting paid so he can do arty films on the side.

[daddiefatsacks]

wow...people actually went to go see the pink panther? THAT many people?

[Lazy Boy]

It appealed to a lot kids, moreso than Curious George, by the looks of it.

On the other hand, Harrison Ford needs to do something different, maybe an independent ensemble piece. Nobody is buying his "geezer fights bad guys" filmography anymore.