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ElderPredator

12-02-2005, 09:31 AM

Hey Guys,

Me and a few guys got our first look at the X-Men 3 trailer
at a special screening and here is a detailed description
in no particular order of what happens. It looks so f*cking
awesome.

The trailer is a montage of scenes from the film. It starts out with a voice over by Patrick Stewart. As he talks about the war of mutants (as well as angels and demons), we see a bunch of very, very brief scenes. Here's what I remember (not necessarily in order):

- The X-Men walking down the hall in the basement of the X-Mansion. We see Wolverine, Storm, Kitty Pryde, Colossus, and others.
- An exterior shot of the X-Mansion
- Storm walking out of the Mansion doors and looking at a cloudy sky.
- Quick shot of Professor X in a wheelchair.
- A shot of Beast and the other X-Men at what appears to be a funeral.
- A shot of Angel, shirtless and in a lab, quickly unfolding his wings in from of some scientists.
- A quick shot of the President and his advisors.
- Juggernaut in a containment cell.
- A shot of Magneto in the woods flanked by Pyro, Juggernaut, and an Asian mutant among others. Magneto delivers a line and dozens of mutants raise their fists in the air.
- Cyclops screaming at the sky.
- Wolverine meeting Cyclops at Alkali Lake and his glasses flying off and into Wolverine's hand.
- Jean Grey waking up on an infirmary table.
- An X-Student walking through the halls of the Mansion flying paper airplanes with his powers.
- Storm flying through the air, then spinning and knocking people over.
- Storm flying and knocking Wolverine out of the way of debris falling down (in a Danger Room training sequence).
- A shot of Magneto causing a car to fly up into the cab of a truck.
- A shot of Magneto and other mutants walking along the Golden Gate Bridge. The Bridge then starts ripping and bending apart.
- A shot of Jean Grey casually walking towards a door in the infirmary and it violently blowing apart.
- A scene of Wolverine jumping out of a tree and tearing someone apart with his claws.
- A shot of Mystique jumping onto a desk in front of somebody, and her hands are chained together.

The trailer then concludes with the X and Wolverine's claws as seen on the poster.

It was the best trailer in a while and will debut on December 5th in full HD Quicktime quality!

What do you guys thinks?

12-02-2005, 09:45 AM

The trailer will no doubt be exciting, but the actual film will probably be less than great. To be honest, I'm not expecting too much from it. It has a short production schedule and a director who hasn't impressed me with anything he has done previously.

DaveyJoeG

12-02-2005, 03:25 PM

This project seemed worse and worse with every piece of news I heard about it. I did enjoy Red Dragon however.. I think Ratner can do a competent job of taking over, but I'm not sure if we'll get much more than that.

The last bit of news about Beast was intriguing though...

ElderPredator

12-02-2005, 03:27 PM

Yeah, you guys are right. Ratner hasn't done that great of work on his movies but that was only mainly because of the actors that he has worked with like Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan.....come on. With his cast for X-Men and the ideas already brought forward, it is sounding really good! Can't wait!

James Logan

12-02-2005, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by ElderPredator

- Jean Grey waking up on an infirmary table.
- A shot of Jean Grey casually walking towards a door in the infirmary and it violently blowing apart.

No, no, no, NO.

Fucking marketing people. Jean Grey is supposed to be dead. Only fans know of her coming back and the whole Dark Phoenix thing. Why, why, WHY would you spoil something like that?

This pisses me off just as much as when they showed Gandalf in the TWO TOWERS previews. Fucking hell.

DaveyJoeG

12-02-2005, 03:55 PM

I know, doesn't that just grind your gears, James? I was pissed off when they showed Gandalf the White in the TTT preview too. :mad:

Oh well, marketing people seem to be counter productive to an artists intent. They take a movie and make it look like something entirely different.

CyclicNightmare

12-02-2005, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by James Logan
No, no, no, NO.

Fucking marketing people. Jean Grey is supposed to be dead. Only fans know of her coming back and the whole Dark Phoenix thing. Why, why, WHY would you spoil something like that?

This pisses me off just as much as when they showed Gandalf in the TWO TOWERS previews. Fucking hell.
And look how badly that turned out for New Line.

EDIT: Also what the fuck is up with JoBlo? It's dead around here while other forums (like SuperHeroHype) are absolutely going bat shit over this news. Get excited people! This is fucking X3!!!!!!11

Scarfather

12-02-2005, 04:21 PM

X3 is most likely going to suck cock so that's why the schmoes aren't getting excited.

DaveyJoeG

12-02-2005, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Scarfather
X3 is most likely going to suck cock so that's why the schmoes aren't getting excited.

Bingo!

Digifruitella

12-02-2005, 05:20 PM

king_verhoeven

12-02-2005, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by DaveyJoeG
Bingo!

We have a winner

War Movie Mania

12-02-2005, 05:29 PM

I for one, am very excited for X3. I can't wait to see the full trailer on Decemver 5th.

Very nice break down of the trailer by the way, good job.

I can't wait to see the new X-men in action. Colusses, Angel, and Beast are among my favorite X-men.

Juggernaut is going to be pretty orgasmic (for lack of a better word) to watch on the big screen.

As far as Jean Grey... I really don't think it was much of a secret that she wasn't really dead. The end of X2 pretty much gave that away, not the previews.

Even my clueless girlfriend knew that she wasn't dead at the end of X2.

ElderPredator

12-03-2005, 07:49 AM

I agree that it is going to be kicked ass based on the trailer that I saw. It was absolutely wicked and the imagery is beautiful and full of action. It is my #1 movie for next year over Superman by far. We need a better trailer for Superman.

Bogey93'

12-03-2005, 10:08 AM

Fine so maybe the trailer looks great. I'm sure it does. But the movie might not even be half as good. The funny thing is the superman teaser was dissapointing but that movie might end up to be very good.

CyclicNightmare

12-03-2005, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by Scarfather
X3 is most likely going to suck cock so that's why the schmoes aren't getting excited.
Originally posted by DaveyJoeG
Bingo!
Originally posted by king_verhoeven
We have a winner
Care to back up these opinions?

someguy

12-03-2005, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by CyclicNightmare
Care to back up these opinions?

http://kyosaiki.online.fr/images/poster/rushhour_us2.jpg

therealjohng

12-03-2005, 02:29 PM

I have some faith....

http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/151487.1020.A.jpg

James Logan

12-03-2005, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by CyclicNightmare
And look how badly that turned out for New Line.

Ah, yes, but New Line was bringing back an acclaimed director and cast, all of it, who had brilliantly pulled of a supposedly impossible adaption of one of the best-loved books ever, and profited from the fact that their project was unique, had a huge fanbase, and was a must-see movie for pretty much anyone.

What X3 has is two good prequels, a new director who's, at best, boringly average (the RUSH HOUR movies are mehs, RED DRAGON is a complete uninspired SILENCE OF THE LAMBS pseud-rip-off, and FAMILY MAN is another meh), a script written by a writer who thinks he's a lot better than he actually is, and it has to compete for attention with all the other super hero movies that came in the year before it and should come right after it (all in all, BATMAN BEGINS, FANTASTIC FOUR, SUPERMAN RETURNS...).

I'd say there's no way to link spoiling something like that and the movie's success. In both cases, spoiling the surprise was dumb, to me, not out of a marketing standpoint, but because it lessens the viewing experience. And you'll lose some viewers -- the already-skeptical ones who'll use that to go "What? But she's supposed to be dead. That's fucking bullshit. Couldn't they think of something else?".

I agree with the people who're worried about the film. I don't think Ratner can handle something like this, I don't think he's concerned enough about acting and script to give the film the depth Singer managed to get the two previous installments and which made them great, and everything I've heard so far about the movie -- having Wolverine and Storm shacking up, packing WAY too many new mutants in there -- tends to make me think "What? No, no...". I'll see it, sure. But I don't expect to love it -- at all.

Ender

12-04-2005, 01:09 AM

As predictable as the death of Cyclops is, let me be the first to say that it's complete and total BULLSHIT.

MisterTwister

12-04-2005, 02:11 AM

I'm one of the few who is 100% excited about the film. I believe Ratner will deliver a solid movie and i have no worrys.

MickeyKnox

12-04-2005, 02:56 AM

I don't know X3 might be good but it could very well suck i'll just just have to see the finished product.

Spidey

12-04-2005, 10:04 AM

I think it will be like Terminator 3, good but not nearly as good as the previous two.

adamjohnson

12-04-2005, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Spidey
I think it will be like Terminator 3, good but not nearly as good as the previous two.

Now THATS a bingo.

CyclicNightmare

12-04-2005, 12:14 PM

Here's the thing.

You have to remember that schmoes and online fans are all over the Ratner news and know a lot about the development of X3.

Joe Movie Going Public on the other hand only sees "Wow! X3 is coming! The first two X-Men were good, I have to check that out."

Basically, what I'm saying is, I don't think it will have to compete for attention James with those other films you mentioned because X-Men has already established itself as a strong franchise and the general public just sees this as the next chapter.

Danger^Cart

12-04-2005, 06:16 PM

When given decent material to work with, Rattner is a very competent director (see red dragon) so I'm not really all that worried. And even if Rush Hour 1 & 2 are ridiculously stupid movies (once again, source material) what you need to do is strip it down to basics. Was the lighting good? Camera angles? Overall direction? The answer to all of those is yes.

Im not worried...I think this may just be the best out of the three actually.

ElderPredator

12-04-2005, 08:58 PM

ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! I think with the right materials and right cast, this will be an awesome movie. We'll all get to see the trailer tomorrow!!!!

12-05-2005, 06:22 AM

Aintitcoolnews have run an article with a link to some preview images of Beast and Angel. Looks like Ratner's short production schedule has made them shit their pants and do most of the effects for real.

Click here for article with USA Today link (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=21960)

Tyler_Durden_208

12-05-2005, 07:32 AM

Ok, there went all my hopes and dreams of Beast looking any good. And Angel... meh.

bigred760

12-05-2005, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by ak
The trailer will no doubt be exciting, but the actual film will probably be less than great. To be honest, I'm not expecting too much from it. It has a short production schedule and a director who hasn't impressed me with anything he has done previously.

Don't be so pessimistic.

I'm very excited as to what this movie can offer. Just from reading what ElderPredator saw, it looks like this movie has action, drama, great special effects, a good story, and especially a hell of a lot of mutants. What more could you ask for?

ElderPredator

12-05-2005, 08:03 AM

In my opinion, I think that the picture of Beast is awesome from what they've shown. Angel is questionable until we see the trailer but it's looking awesome so far. Halle Berry looks hot with her new hair-do.

12-05-2005, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by bigred760
Don't be so pessimistic.

I'm very excited as to what this movie can offer. Just from reading what ElderPredator saw, it looks like this movie has action, drama, great special effects, a good story, and especially a hell of a lot of mutants. What more could you ask for?

Nobody has seen anything of the film, so it could go either way. You list things the film could have, and should have. That sounds exciting, but then I just think - "Bret Ratner".
I hope X-MEN 3 is a very good film indeed, but coming from the director of Rush Hour and a very average Red Dragon, I don't think so.

And, like I originally stated, the film has a very short post-production schedule, which screams mediochre to me. With such a vast selection of characters, most of which will require vast amounts of CGI enhancement, and a reportedly huge amount of action, I see the film suffering because of time. Films of this scale usually have a year or so of post-production.

Here's a quote from an online article:

X3 probably marks the last installment of the franchise.

"We really have become a family," says Halle Berry, who plays Storm, a mutant handy with a lightning bolt. "I'm going to be sad to say goodbye."

The American title of the film appears to be "X-MEN 3: The Last Stand", so this certainly suggests it being the last film. Seems a bit strange to me. They've only just scratched the surface, really.

The film will probably just be titled X-MEN 3 in the UK and other parts of Europe (as they dropped the "X-MEN United" title for the second film).

bigred760

12-05-2005, 11:35 AM

A short post-production schedule does not make a movie bad. The movie is not due for several months and for all we know the effects-work could be worked on during the filming of the movie. Look at War of the Worlds - the effects on that movie were awesome and it was done in less than a year.

And while I wish that Matthew Vaughn had stuck around to direct X-Men 3, Brett Ratner is more than capable of making this movie - both Rush Hours were box office hits and Red Dragon (while being inferior to Manhunter in my opinion) was still a box office and a somewhat critical success.

Hugh Jackman and Avi Arad are optimistic about the movie as well - sure they're biased and want to promote the film as much as possible, but Jackman didn't wasn't contractually obligated to return. And I think the main reason Singer didn't return is because Warner Bros. held out a phat-ass paycheck to direct his dream movie - Superman Returns.

And people have seen something of the movie: the Schmoe who started this thread detailed out the teaser trailer; they're some pictures of Beast and Angel in today's USAToday and a few storyboards (or conceptual designs or something) of the Golden Gate Bridge scene. To me, the movie is shaping out nicely.

LegionX

12-05-2005, 12:20 PM

I have to say that Kelsey Grammer looks fucking awsome as beast

12-05-2005, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by bigred760
A short post-production schedule does not make a movie bad. The movie is not due for several months and for all we know the effects-work could be worked on during the filming of the movie. Look at War of the Worlds - the effects on that movie were awesome and it was done in less than a year.

And while I wish that Matthew Vaughn had stuck around to direct X-Men 3, Brett Ratner is more than capable of making this movie - both Rush Hours were box office hits and Red Dragon (while being inferior to Manhunter in my opinion) was still a box office and a somewhat critical success.

Hugh Jackman and Avi Arad are optimistic about the movie as well - sure they're biased and want to promote the film as much as possible, but Jackman didn't wasn't contractually obligated to return. And I think the main reason Singer didn't return is because Warner Bros. held out a phat-ass paycheck to direct his dream movie - Superman Returns.

And people have seen something of the movie: the Schmoe who started this thread detailed out the teaser trailer; they're some pictures of Beast and Angel in today's USAToday and a few storyboards (or conceptual designs or something) of the Golden Gate Bridge scene. To me, the movie is shaping out nicely.

Let's not start comparing a Bret Ratner movie to a Steven Spielberg movie. Spielberg could easily handle the effects production simply because he's a genius at that kind of thing. He shot the film so quickly, and actually shot all the big scenes first for ILM to start work as soon as possible. There's very few directors, if any, that can match Spielberg for that level of production.

The production time of a film does affect the special effects, which, let's face it, are a BIG part of this film. So many films in the past have failed to deliver with their set-pieces because of inexperienced directions, and lack of time.

X3 will probably deliver some really exciting action sequences and some really solid action, but I bet a lot of the effects will be poor. It's been proven in the past. Heck, you just have to look at ANY big-budget film to see rushed effects, but I just feel this so much more with X3 for the reasons I have stated.

Also, I don't believe, for one minute, that Bryan Singer directed Superman because he was offered more money for it. It's a passion for him, a dream project. He loves X-Men, hence the reason he directed two, but would you really pass up a project of a life-time to make another sequel for a universe you've already explored in two films? I certainly wouldn't, and neither did Singer.

I'm looking forward to the trailer later on tonight. I hope it'll be a good film, but we shall only truly know next May.

bigred760

12-05-2005, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by ak
Let's not start comparing a Bret Ratner movie to a Steven Spielberg movie. Spielberg could easily handle the effects production simply because he's a genius at that kind of thing. He shot the film so quickly, and actually shot all the big scenes first for ILM to start work as soon as possible. There's very few directors, if any, that can match Spielberg for that level of production.

Oooh, so just because Brett Ratner's not a filmmaking genius - he can't make a good movie in a year.

Also, I don't believe, for one minute, that Bryan Singer directed Superman because he was offered more money for it. It's a passion for him, a dream project. He loves X-Men, hence the reason he directed two, but would you really pass up a project of a life-time to make another sequel for a universe you've already explored in two films? I certainly wouldn't, and neither did Singer.

Don't know . . . it's never come up for me. And I do know that it was a dream project for Singer - but I also believe that the paycheck WB was dangling in front of him had something to do with it. He was a huge part of the X-Men franchise - not just the director - and just left it.

I'm looking forward to the trailer later on tonight. I hope it'll be a good film, but we shall only truly know next May.

That is a fact.

ElderPredator

12-05-2005, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by LegionX
I have to say that Kelsey Grammer looks fucking awsome as beast

I second that motion!

ElderPredator

12-05-2005, 01:39 PM

I think that the movie will either be the worst if the series or the best of it as it will be the last one. I have full confidence in Ratner because I love all his movies. I mean look at Robert Rodriguez, he goes from directing the most violent movies ever like Desperado & From Dusk Till Dawn to directing the Spy Kid's trilogy which did very well. So we can't judge on that.

ElderPredator

12-05-2005, 02:23 PM

I am so goddamn excited to see this trailer, I've got the main site and Quicktime bookmarked so I can get to them fast.

War Movie Mania

12-05-2005, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by LegionX
I have to say that Kelsey Grammer looks fucking awsome as beast

I wholeheartadly agree.

Angel looks pretty cool too... but I'm not too familiar with his powers? I see to remember him throwing knives and flying or something like that? Anyone care to fill me in?

The Heart Collector

12-05-2005, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by James Logan
I don't think he's concerned enough about acting and script to give the film the depth Singer managed to get the two previous installments.

We must have seen different X2's. The one I saw was a retarded collection of shallow action scenes interconnected by somethin which doesnt deserve to be called a plot.

adamjohnson

12-05-2005, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
We must have seen different X2's. The one I saw was a retarded collection of shallow action scenes interconnected by somethin which doesnt deserve to be called a plot.

Yes, we must have.

Luke-Abbott

12-05-2005, 04:53 PM

I, for one, am excited for X-Men 3 and have faith that Ratner will produce a decent sequel, one that COULD be better than both combined from what I've read about the trailer (hey, I liked both Rush Hours, sue me!).

Also, I wasn't too sure how good Kelsey Grammer's Beast would look in the movie but after seeing his picture I'm excited for the film once more. I just hope Angel's wings grown on me because right now they just look too "fake" (if thats the right word to use), heres hoping.

X3 looks like its gonna be a cool movie (at the moment) :cool:

darkface

12-05-2005, 05:56 PM

Just saw the Teaser on Access Hollywood.

I'm actually surprised. It looks better than I had originally thought. Don't know much about the plot yet, but it still looked good from what I saw. I only caught about the last 3/4 of it. I wasn't thrilled about this movie, so it put me back into neutral, which is a start.

ElderPredator

12-05-2005, 05:57 PM

Excellent, glad to hear you liked it and if it premiered on Acces Hollywood, it will premiere on the Web really soon. Can't wait to see it again in full HD glory.

12-05-2005, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by bigred760
Oooh, so just because Brett Ratner's not a filmmaking genius - he can't make a good movie in a year.

Ratner could surprise me, and I hope he does. While Red Dragon was a borderline film, it did showcase some flair. My point with Spielberg was that he's had great experience in dealing with short productions and huge effects. I feel dirty using 'Spielberg' and 'Ratner' in the same paragraph.

The main point of my argument is I have hope. If it is the final film, it would be nice for it to go out with a bang, not a whimper. If it was Singer, I would have total confidence, but like many, many other people I am nervous.

miguel_montes

12-05-2005, 07:04 PM

It's online!!!!

http://www.x3movie.com/

I really liked the trailer! Lots of action, I see... let's hope the movie doesn't disappoint... ;)

Oh, and I have no trouble with Beast, Angel or Juggernaut... I think they all look quite cool.

bigred760

12-05-2005, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by ak
Ratner could surprise me, and I hope he does. While Red Dragon was a borderline film, it did showcase some flair. My point with Spielberg was that he's had great experience in dealing with short productions and huge effects. I feel dirty using 'Spielberg' and 'Ratner' in the same paragraph.

I definitely agree with you there; I'm not saying Brett Ratner is anywhere near the caliber that is the great Spielberg. But I too think Ratner was a great choice to succeed Singer (and Matthew Vaughn).

The main point of my argument is I have hope. If it is the final film, it would be nice for it to go out with a bang, not a whimper. If it was Singer, I would have total confidence, but like many, many other people I am nervous.

I, again, agree with you there. I too have hope that it delivers on all fronts. I guess . . . I'm just not that nervous.

Spacey_Norton21

12-05-2005, 07:13 PM

Juggernaut coulda been better....

and Red Dragon was excellent

Rush Hour fucking sucks

both of them

DareDevil

12-05-2005, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by ElderPredator
In my opinion, I think that the picture of Beast is awesome from what they've shown. Angel is questionable until we see the trailer but it's looking awesome so far. Halle Berry looks hot with her new hair-do.

I thought you already saw the trailer.... explaining why you started this thread....

i think we might have a plug.... go to the upcoming movie board and he's started like 3 threads....

???

I'm goina go watch the trailer:cool:

ElderPredator

12-05-2005, 07:16 PM

I have already seen it but I'm so psyched to see it again and I just did! It's awesome!

Tyler_Durden_208

12-05-2005, 07:20 PM

Hm... I dunno. I'm kinda half and half on the trailer. Some of the action stuff looks good... But almost every shot of beast looks... Well, it just looks like a blue-tinted Wolverine really... I remember Beast being robust and muscular... He looks really puny. And the Angel part looks much better when seen in motion, but I still prefer he had the comic book mullet that I remember. Other than that, it looks iffy, I still couldn't pick out Juggernaught and there's no way I'm waiting forever for that thing to load again just to try and pick him out when I know somebody will post some screen caps soon enough...