THE NEW WORLD

[Katsumoto]

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A Terrence Malick-scripted drama about explorer John Smith and the clash between Native Americans and English settlers in the 17th century.

Genres: Adventure / Historical Drama

Running Time: 150 min.

Release Date: December 25, 2005 (Limited) January 13 (wide)

MPAA Rating: Rated PG-13 for some intense battle sequences.

Distributors: New Line Cinema

Starring: Colin Farrell, Christopher Plummer, Christian Bale, Q'Orianka Kilcher, Ben Chaplin, Jason Aaron Baca, Michael Greyeyes, Noah Taylor, Irene Bedard, David Thewlis, Ben Mendelsohn, Josh Padgett, Jonathan Pryce, Roger Rees, Wes Studi, Raoul Trujillo

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This is the first Malick film in 8 years, I don't know about anyone else but its been my most anticipated film for last couple of years, Malick's images are staggering. This one doesn't look like it will dissappoint.

[Katsumoto]

Slant Magazine (http://http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/features/2005yearinfilm.asp) just named The New World their unanimous number one film of 2005.

[TylerDurden182]

Can't Fucking wait. Terrence Malick is a genius and is 3 for 3 so far.

[Lazy Boy]

Who cares if the bandwagon critical circles haven't cited this, I'm dying to see it, especially since that twit Kris Tapley called it the worst film of the year.

Thank goodness Malick didn't wait another twenty years to make this.

[Cronos]

meh, not interested in it, if it gets good reviews i might give it a rent

[darkface]

I'm in between. I think it looks good, but don't know if it's worth it in the theaters. If the reviews are mostly positive I'll give it a try.

[Lazy Boy]

I'm doubly excited to see this in theaters, because I was never granted the luxury of watching The Thin Red Line in a movie theater, only on DVD.

It's my Christmas present.

[Fisting Ackbar]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
Who cares if the bandwagon critical circles haven't cited this

Shit yes. Malick has gotten better with each subsequent film. I'm also happy to see Wes Studi back in a big Hollywood movie. Can't wait to see it.

Cute fact: Christian Bale's character in this movie has the same name as me in real life.

[ChemicalRomance]

Originally posted by darkface
I'm in between. I think it looks good, but don't know if it's worth it in the theaters. If the reviews are mostly positive I'll give it a try.

[ilovemovies]

Well The Thin Red Line is the only movie I've seen of Malik's but I loved it and I think this movie looks atleast as good if not better. Can't wait to see it!

[dman476]

Originally posted by Fisting Ackbar
Cute fact: Christian Bale's character in this movie has the same name as me in real life.
Well, then you must be honored John Rolfe.
The film looks pretty good, I'm not pumped but I'll admit it looks better and better, and Mallick rocks. I love the Thin Red Line and Badlands.
This is a definate theater watch for me (I hope it's good).

[DaveyJoeG]

Pg-13 huh? Well all right...

Anyway I loved The Thin Red Line, I'm really looking forward to it. It should be a beautiful film.

[TrippingBalls]

I'm tired of pretentious romantic historical epics. I'll pass.

[Lazy Boy]

A Malick film isn't like a historical romance/epic in the modern sense, but he has a romantic, idealistic look at certain periods in history and likes to capture their poetic beauty in a time capsule. Look how beautiful AND ugly he made war seem in The Thin Red Line.

[Joshmo]

I dont like Malick's style. I find him pretentious. I despised The Thin Red Line.

I "was" excited about The New World despite that though....UNTIL I read the write up (not a review) in the weekend paper. Seems like he is doing the same shit he did that made me hate TRL....he went in after New World was done. stripped the actors dialogue, redited it and added FUCKING VOICEOVERS GALORE...the write said that there are tons of silent moments as a result. I will def wait for reviews... and if thats the case, I wont even rent it on dvd let alone seeing it at show. I dont wanna hear whats in a charactors freaking THOUGHTS.

[jolanar]

This movie looks like a boring snooze fest. I'll not be watching it in the theatres.

[Katsumoto]

If i hear the word pretentious again, i'm going to fucking snap. It's like people just learned the word and know if a director does something different or not in the norm. he's automatically pretentious.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by Joshmo
I dont like Malick's style. I find him pretentious. I despised The Thin Red Line.

I "was" excited about The New World despite that though....UNTIL I read the write up (not a review) in the weekend paper. Seems like he is doing the same shit he did that made me hate TRL....he went in after New World was done. stripped the actors dialogue, redited it and added FUCKING VOICEOVERS GALORE...the write said that there are tons of silent moments as a result. I will def wait for reviews... and if thats the case, I wont even rent it on dvd let alone seeing it at show. I dont wanna hear whats in a charactors freaking THOUGHTS.

I strongly disliked Thin Red Line because of the endless, boring, mostly meaningless voiceovers. TRL was not a movie, it was a radio play with some pretty pictures to accompany the 3-hour monologue audio track.

If TNW is like that as well, I'll skip.

[Lazy Boy]

An interesting biographical note, for those interested:

Q'Orianka Kilcher, who plays Pocahantas, is a cousin to the singer Jewel.

[TrippingBalls]

Originally posted by Tuukka
I strongly disliked Thin Red Line because of the endless, boring, mostly meaningless voiceovers. TRL was not a movie, it was a radio play with some pretty pictures to accompany the 3-hour monologue audio track.

If TNW is like that as well, I'll skip.

Amen. The Thin Red Line put me to sleep, I have never been this bored watching a war movie.

[Fisting Ackbar]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
Q'Orianka Kilcher, who plays Pocahantas, is a cousin to the singer Jewel.

And here you think they picked some unknown actress coming out of nowhere, is she related to someone in the business!

I do like Jewel though, so I shouldn't complain.

[silentasylum]

along with King Kong(of course) this is one of my most anticipated movies of the holiday season. People complained to me about The tHin red line being boring but I never found myself bored but rather intrigued by what was going on. I should be entertained by this as well.

[Lost in Space]

thin red line or not
i just dont want it to turn into some lovey dovey shit like pocahauntes or w/e
but none-the-less it looks good
altho im not a huge fan of collin ferral

[Lazy Boy]

I don't think you need to worry about Pocahontas and John Smith singing "Colors of the Wind," if you catch my drift.

[moviegroupie]

well see, i start off with no expectations so i dont get dissapointed.

i'll just consider this to be alexander 2, so i'm blown away if its at least decent,

[Katsumoto]

Just finished watching a very nice review from ebert and roeper. One of the year's best, i believe he said.
Also a couple clips are up, both are superb...one (http://movies.aol.com/movie/main.adp?tab=trailers&mid=19540) and two (http://www.latimes.com/extras/newworld/)

[Backstabba]

The Thin Red Line is one of my favorite movies of all time...

This is a must see.

[arto_j]

I'm gonna have to wait until I get back from Christmas break to see this one, but I'll definitely be there as soon as I can. I hate how there's a few months in the fall with barely anything worth while and now there's like 8 movies in a few weeks that are pretty much must-sees for me. But hey, I'll take it, point is this is at the top of my list of films to see right now.

[Danger^Cart]

I found The Thin Red Line sub-par, at best, but maybe that's just because I can't STAND that no-talent fuck Caviezel. Screw him and his one fucking facial expression.

I also found the direction to be slow, and boring. Malick is just..well...he's just not a very competent director as far as im concerned. In the previews of this film I find this truth to be emphasized even more. Maybe I'll rent this someday...but I'm definetly NOT anticipating it's release, and could care less about it.

[GoldenGhost]

Originally posted by Katsumoto
Just finished watching a very nice review from ebert and roeper. One of the year's best, i believe he said.

This is becoming Ebert's tagline. But, on this occasion it's still nice to hear, I only seen the trailer for The New World not so long ago, and it looks great.

[Lazy Boy]

It's #2 on Roeper's best of the year list. He was the one who raved about it, which I'm surprised about. I thought he would find it pretentious.

[TheJadedGamer]

It's not my type of movie, really. I'd like to see it, but I know it won't be able to hold my attention.

[APzombie]

How long ago did the first trailer come out? I've been really looking forward to this for a long time.

[dman476]

Wow, Comingsoon.net gave it a really unflattering review: 2/10.

"While "The New World" could have been as strong a documentation of early Americans as any of the great historic epics of the last twenty years, instead it's a pretentious and mostly dull romantic film about a prepubescent girl. Honestly, the material was covered better in the Disney animated film, and at least that had some singing to keep things lively. "

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/reviewsnews.php?id=12484

[Tayzlor]

Prententious movies can also be great movies. Pretentiousness doesn't (or shouldn't) prevent a movie from being good, provided it fills its ambition. Most critics nowadays are eager to talk of a movie's pretentiousness and bitch about it than actually critiquing the movie.

January 13 cannot come any sooner because I'm afraid I may black out in anticipation if it does. And the movie isn't even in the top ten in terms of remaining anticipation for 2005.

[dman476]

Originally posted by Tayzlor
January 13 cannot come any sooner because I'm afraid I may black out in anticipation if it does. And the movie isn't even in the top ten in terms of remaining anticipation for 2005.
Care to fill me in on that 10? :D
But I am looking forward The New World, it looks pretty damn good, but I'm still disappointed with that 2/10 - but it is Mallick and he isn't one of the careless filmmakers but what I'm hearing is that the film (at 2:30) is too long and could have used some editing and now Mallick is doing some more editing until the Jan. 13 release. Thing is, my theater is having a limited one week engagement starting sunday and I'm conflicted because it's the 2:30 hour version. Should I just wait until Jan. 13 or see the extended cut?

[Tayzlor]

Originally posted by dman476
Care to fill me in on that 10? :D


Oops, meant to type two. The two were "Caché" and "Brokeback Mountain".

[dman476]

Originally posted by Tayzlor
Oops, meant to type two. The two were "Caché" and "Brokeback Mountain".
Oh yes, I really want to see Caché and Brokeback Mountain as well.
But more than that I want to see Woody Allen's Match Point. I've gradually grown into a full fledged Allen fan over the years and I say that that man can do no wrong (filmmaking wise).
New World, I'll wait to see your opinions before seeing it in theaters.
Next week I have these movies playing near me that I'm considering watching:
Hidden (Caché)
Brokeback Mountain
Syriana
The New World
Match Point
The Matador

I really don't know but I think I might be able to watch three of those. Match Point is a given and probably so is Brokeback. Which is the other one that I should see (in your opinion) ?

[Katsumoto]

Originally posted by dman476
Should I just wait until Jan. 13 or see the extended cut?
Go see the extended cut, that's still the cut that slant magazine said was the best film of the year... take advantage of your luck, i say.

[dman476]

Originally posted by Katsumoto
Go see the extended cut, that's still the cut that slant magazine said was the best film of the year... take advantage of your luck, i say.
All right, so I will. Thanks.
I really hope the film is good.

[TylerDurden182]

Originally posted by dman476
Should I just wait until Jan. 13 or see the extended cut?

If I were you, I would be at the theater right now. No Malick movie is too long. I am still hoping for the release of the 6 hour version of The Thin Red Line.

[dman476]

Originally posted by TylerDurden182
If I were you, I would be at the theater right now. No Malick movie is too long. I am still hoping for the release of the 6 hour version of The Thin Red Line.
The movie only opens tomorrow and I doubt I'd watch this on X-Mas, what with family and all (they want to see Rumor Has It, why? I don't know). I just got 96 bucks today and I think I'll have to spend most of it next week to see these in theaters:
Hidden (Caché)
Brokeback Mountain
Syriana
The New World
Match Point

But you are right, no Mallick movie is too long. He always makes things worth it. Was there really a rumored Red Line Extended Cut?
That would be wicked.

[Lazy Boy]

Originally posted by dman476
But you are right, no Mallick movie is too long. He always makes things worth it. Was there really a rumored Red Line Extended Cut?
That would be wicked.

There was a six hour version, with a much larger role for Adrien Brody, plus actors who got cut out, such as Gary Oldman, Lukas Haas and Mickey Rourke, with Billy Bob Thornton originally recording a voice over but having it scrapped upon the final edit.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
There was a six hour version, with a much larger role for Adrien Brody, plus actors who got cut out, such as Gary Oldman, Lukas Haas and Mickey Rourke, with Billy Bob Thornton originally recording a voice over but having it scrapped upon the final edit.

Wow. I'd actually would like to see that although six hours is a bit much.

[Tayzlor]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
Wow. I'd actually would like to see that although six hours is a bit much.

Six hours is way too much. I love "The Thin Red Line", but it is messy, and a six hour version would be a pain.

[ilovemovies]

On second thought, six hours is nothing. My favorite TV show is 24 and that really plays like a 24 hour movie (minus commercial breaks of coarse). So although I probably couldn't sit through the whole movie in one sitting, I would love to see this six hour version.

[The Heart Collector]

Movies are made so that you can sit through them in one sitting.

[TracyFlick]

Easily the best film of the year, saw a screening yesterday. As with all of Malick's films it takes a day or two to let everything sink in. What I can say is this is one of the most beautifully shot pictures i've ever seen. Great performances from Q'Orianka Kilcher & Colin Farrel in particular, but all around an amazing performance as an ensemble. Its starts off so simple, but Malick builds layers and layers of perspective and parellel between all characters. The most important thing though is that Malick of course goes into the philosphy of the new world, but never forgets about the story resulting in an breathtaking, poignant & awe-inspiring film.
*****/*****

[arto_j]

Well, good news (?)...New Line will be releasing an extra-long Malick super-cut of the film on dvd next year along with the theatrical release...As in, it'll be even longer than the cut that played in limited release.

[Lazy Boy]

That's great -- New Line is showing respect to Malick by adhering to his original cut and his shortened version.

I can't wait till the 20th.

[jimmyjdmb]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
That's great -- New Line is showing respect to Malick by adhering to his original cut and his shortened version.


Could this mean a 6-hour Thin Red Line release? Probably not, but I can dream.

[Katsumoto]

Who's going to see The New World tomorrow???
I am 4:10 show baby!!

[SpikeDurden]

I will *finally* be seeing this movie tomorrow, and I cannot wait. I'll chime in with a full review tomorrow evening.

[Digifruitella]

Originally posted by TylerDurden182
I am still hoping for the release of the 6 hour version of The Thin Red Line.

Holy...:eek: 6 HOURS? Where'd you hear that.!?

[rbowden81]

I'll be seeing this tomorrow and I can't wait! Anyone know how much a role Bale has in it?

[Katsumoto]

its a supporting role

[bankholdup]

Saw it tonight. I can't really think of many bad things to say about it, but I give it an 8/10. Great visuals and performances, but seemed a bit long, even at the shorter length. I can't really think of any scenes or moments where I said, "This shouldn't be here", or "Booorrriinnngg", so it's hard to say why exactly I have it at an 8, even though it's still a quite positive rating. Hope everyone enjoys it.


PS--is this new cut considered a 2005 or a 2006 film?

[TylerDurden182]

Hopefully I will be seeing this either tonight or tomorrow.

[rbowden81]

Just got back from seeing this at the theatre right beside my apt. Let me first say that having a theatre right beside your apt is great. Anyways, I enjoyed the movie. I'd probably give it an 8/10. I thought the direction was right on. The scenery and long shots of the "new world" were spectaclar. The movie was just great to look at. Acting was great. They did a good job because most of the dialog is from voice overs and there are alot of scenes where there is no dialog or just long spots of silence.

One question though and I hope I'm not coming off as sounding holier than thou by saying this but has anyone been to a movie where you see people come in the movie and you can just tell that they aren't going to like it. Usually cause they just see one preview and know nothing about the movie before they go see it. Case in point. I pretty knew what I was coming to see having seen some of Malicks previous stuff and I knew there would be alot of voice overs and long shots. It just gets on my nerves when you're trying to watch the movie and you got people behind you commenting about how slow the movie is and stuff like that. Then when it's over you walk out and they're complaining about how there was no action and how pointless the movie is. Sorry, I"ll step off my soap box now, but it's just a pet peeve of mine I guess.

[Lazy Boy]

9/10

It will be interesting to see the differences between the original cut versus the new cut.

So many thoughts are racing through my head. What I can say is how saddened I was by the end of the movie. It is about an antiquated society driven to the precipice of existence by a new order, as one young woman bridges both worlds. You want forbidden love? Forget Brokeback Mountain, erase your memory of it's overrated posturing, and see how Terrence Malick gets it RIGHT.

A stunning work.

[Tayzlor]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy

Forget Brokeback Mountain, erase your memory of it's overrated posturing


Whether or not you find "Brokeback Mountain" overrated or not is (obviously) up to you, but there is no way the movie was posturing. The movie is completely restrained and if I believe it were posturing, then it would not have not ended with a whimper.

"Crash"--that's posturing


Looking forward to seeing "The New World" tomorrow, or next week.

[Ki'esha Foxx]

I actually heard this dipshit on the radio saying how horrible this film is since he could "remember going to that same location and seeing popcorn boxes on the ground and they want me to believe I'm back in the 1600's". What the fuck?! Be grateful that it was filmed on location in Jamestown and not somewhere in Australia or wherever the hell! To top it off, he admitted to not even having seen the whole thing!

I really do want to see this and hope that viewers will laugh at the Disney one when compared to this one (although, as a kid Pocahontas was my favorite movie).

[Lazy Boy]

The final images (set to the Wagner music) filled my heart, with Pocahontas/Rebecca playing hide and go seek around the hedge. What was her final line? "Mother, I'm here" ?? Beautiful.

If 2005 was an awful year in cinema, what about films like this, which are overlooked and disappear quickly from the theaters? What will happen to the voice of the artist when nobody cares? Malick will still make films, no doubt, but this symphony of sound and images is surely meant to be seen on the big screen.

[TylerDurden182]

Saw it last night, definantly one of the Year's best. Beautiful.

[chinton]

It looks like the lone non-Malik fan will have to be the dissenting opnion.


I saw this lm hoping it woud change my opinion of Malik. Ive generally found him to be a crushing bore. For people who dont like Malik dont see this cause it wont change your mind. As usual a gorgeous film with every frame as beautiful as an oil photograph. Also the lead girl was also very good too. Aside from that this was crushing bore which i hated with a pssion. I got sick of the endless shots of Pocahontas prancing around, or the endless shots of how beautiful nature was, or the endless shots of water. I also couldnt stand the voiceovers which came very close to putting me to sleep. Could the actors any mroe bored in them. And then we havr the Christian bale storyline which did nothing for me as it took forever to introduce him. Beautiful film that was completely uninvolving. I was couting the cieling tiles an hour in.

4/10( simply for the beauty)

[electriclite]

9/10


Just gorgeous. Visually and emotionally. I cried about 3 seperate times.

[electriclite]

Originally posted by Ki'esha Foxx

I really do want to see this and hope that viewers will laugh at the Disney one when compared to this one (although, as a kid Pocahontas was my favorite movie).


Funny coincidence: Christian Bale was the voice of Thomas in the Disney version of Pocahontas, and now he's John Rolfe in Malick's.

[chinton]

You cired about three times. Wow I wish it was even a fraction of that powerful for me. I dont think anybodys going to disagree thats its not gorgeous though.

[dman476]

Originally posted by chinton
It looks like the lone non-Malik fan will have to be the dissenting opnion.


I saw this lm hoping it woud change my opinion of Malik. Ive generally found him to be a crushing bore. For people who dont like Malik dont see this cause it wont change your mind. As usual a gorgeous film with every frame as beautiful as an oil photograph. Also the lead girl was also very good too. Aside from that this was crushing bore which i hated with a pssion. I got sick of the endless shots of Pocahontas prancing around, or the endless shots of how beautiful nature was, or the endless shots of water. I also couldnt stand the voiceovers which came very close to putting me to sleep. Could the actors any mroe bored in them. And then we havr the Christian bale storyline which did nothing for me as it took forever to introduce him. Beautiful film that was completely uninvolving. I was couting the cieling tiles an hour in.

4/10( simply for the beauty)

You're right, man. Oh, are you right. I gave the film a 6, but it could even be a 5. I just couldn't get into the film - it's beautiful but still...
I like Mallick's other films so me not liking this came a surprise to me, but what can a I do?

[Lazy Boy]

Originally posted by electriclite
Funny coincidence: Christian Bale was the voice of Thomas in the Disney version of Pocahontas, and now he's John Rolfe in Malick's.

Plus, Irene Bedard, who did the voice of Pocahontas, is in Malick's movie.

[chinton]

dman

Thanks it always seems like w ere in synch. Although being that you like his films its interesting it didnt do it for you.

[dman476]

Originally posted by chinton
dman

Thanks it always seems like w ere in synch. Although being that you like his films its interesting it didnt do it for you.
The film was a bit different (for me) than Mallick's other ventures.
We are always in synch though, it's funny.
You don't like the Thin Red Line?

[chinton]

Lets put it this way beween these two Ill take TRL any day but I just dont groove to his style of film making. he seems to have a really distinct style of filmaking that I just cant get into. Its funny I usually love voice overs. one of my favorite films Fight Club is voer half voice over but the way malik does it ti just kind of bores me.

[dman476]

Oh well. He does have a distinct style but I actually enjoy TTRL because of that. But yeah, any of his other films are better than the New World.

[Lazy Boy]

I guess I'll be the Malick fanboy who finds his latest completely fascinating. Anybody else feel like its bond between Pocahontas and Smith is closer to Malick's Days of Heaven?

I could care less about the meaning of the voice over; more or less, in combination with the beautiful imagery and choices of classical music, it creates a lulling (to me, not boring) effect.

[Bourne101]

.

[CreeperBEATNGU]

I was expecting it to focus much more on the conflict between the settlers and the natives, it focused much more on the love triangle. Not necessarily a bad thing, but not what I anticipated.
It's very well acted and shot with beautiful scenary, and I was invested in both love stories for the most part.

[chinton]

Its funny my friend who dragged me to this movie he's the one who loved it insists that even though I hate both this and Thin Red Line I would like Badlands. i wonder if thats true.

[Lazy Boy]

You probably would like Badlands. I think it has the most story and plot of any Malick film, with an equal proportion of voice over that never makes the film pretentious or in desire of pretension and never overwhelms it.

[dman476]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
You probably would like Badlands. I think it has the most story and plot of any Malick film, with an equal proportion of voice over that never makes the film pretentious or in desire of pretension and never overwhelms it.
I definately agree.
The Thin Red Line is my least favorite out of the the three good Malick films. I say you rent it, I dug it alot when I first saw it two years ago. Days of Heaven is another you should look out for.
I don't know but the films at the very least are interesting, I say you check them out Chinton.

[chinton]

Ill try Badlands this weekend

[dman476]

Good thinking, so will I.
It's been a while since I'd seen it and I might buy it or rent it - I hope it holds up well. I remember it being great.

[eytank]

This movie can be described with one word: Wow.

2/10

[Rated R]

I agree with the wow, but in the other direction. 9/10. The New World is beautiful, emotional and all in all captivating. What a film, Malick makes good movies.

[eytank]

Originally posted by Rated R
I agree with the wow, but in the other direction. 9/10. The New World is beautiful, emotional and all in all captivating. What a film, Malick makes good movies.

I agree that it was beautiful, but emotional and captivating? The dialog is terrible. The voice overs were suicide inducing. The acting is non-existent. The plot is forgettable. But the nature scenes are magnificent, and that is why it didn't get a 0/10.

[Rated R]

Originally posted by eytank
I agree that it was beautiful, but emotional and captivating? The dialog is terrible. The voice overs were suicide inducing. The acting is non-existent. The plot is forgettable. But the nature scenes are magnificent, and that is why it didn't get a 0/10.

Normally voice-overs do not do it for me, but in this case I feel that it added to the overall dream atmosphere it was trying to convey throughout. The New World was surreal as well as real, it was an interesting amalgamation. Sure, Farrel just moped and hoped that he would express emotional distance and inner torture, umm not quite. He wasn't unwatchable, but he wasn't good either.

Where I say emotional and captivating, I am referring to the relationships between Smith and Pocahontas, and later John Rolfe and Pocahontas. The first is forbidden, it's tragic and sweet; they love each other deeper than thought possible, uncontrolled by their society or even themselves to the point where Smith has to leave. He feels that he has to protect her, and the only way to protect her is to let her move on. Christian Bale comes into the picture and steals the show, he encompasses the emotions of a man who has lost his wife and children and is also trying to move on. When Pocahontas discovers Smith still to be alive, she refuses Rolfe because she loves Smith even though they are married and have a son.

I loved this movie greatly, I thought it worked on most cylinders except that David Thewlis' character was not developed one iota. Of course this could be representing how quickly leadership passed over at that time and how mutiny rose at times of crisis,

Christian Bale was the best part, athough Kilcher was also haunting in her role as Pocahontas. I wish Malick would make more films...as long as it did not take away from the quality.

[eytank]

Originally posted by Rated R
Normally voice-overs do not do it for me, but in this case I feel that it added to the overall dream atmosphere it was trying to convey throughout. The New World was surreal as well as real, it was an interesting amalgamation. Sure, Farrel just moped and hoped that he would express emotional distance and inner torture, umm not quite. He wasn't unwatchable, but he wasn't good either.

Where I say emotional and captivating, I am referring to the relationships between Smith and Pocahontas, and later John Rolfe and Pocahontas. The first is forbidden, it's tragic and sweet; they love each other deeper than thought possible, uncontrolled by their society or even themselves to the point where Smith has to leave. He feels that he has to protect her, and the only way to protect her is to let her move on. Christian Bale comes into the picture and steals the show, he encompasses the emotions of a man who has lost his wife and children and is also trying to move on. When Pocahontas discovers Smith still to be alive, she refuses Rolfe because she loves Smith even though they are married and have a son.

I loved this movie greatly, I thought it worked on most cylinders except that David Thewlis' character was not developed one iota. Of course this could be representing how quickly leadership passed over at that time and how mutiny rose at times of crisis,

Christian Bale was the best part, athough Kilcher was also haunting in her role as Pocahontas. I wish Malick would make more films...as long as it did not take away from the quality.

I don't feel like any of the characters were developed in the film. The one thing I learned from this film is that a picture is certainly NOT worth a thousand words. I felt nothing for all characters. Since there is such an emphasis on the visual, there doesn't seem to be anything underneath.Tthe superficiality of the film makes it incredible boring.

[ilovemovies]

Normally when I disagree with the majority of opinion it's for a movie I enjoyed that everyone else hated. I absolutely loved The Thin Red Line so I was really looking forward. I wish the Schmoe award nominations were still open to post because this is easily the most disappointing movie of the year and probably the most overrated (or actually second to The Aristocrats).

The movie looks great. It's beautifully photographed. But holy shit, this was one boring ass movie! The girl who plays Pocohantas was pretty good. Colin Farrell and Christian Bale are ok. Bale gets nothing to do and doesn't show up till near the end. Farrell definately gets more to do and though it's not his best performance, he still gives a pretty decent performance.

Both I can't put it any simpler than to just say that this is a very boring movie! I even got a little restless at times.

[Backstabba]

10/10

I like some, LOVED The Thin Red Line, so I was greatly looking forward to The New World. And MY GOD, it was as good as expected.

In the begining of the film, the first two minutes, I was thinking "Holy shit, this is begining to look like a pretentious bore", but it quickly turned around, what followed was brilliant imagery, amazing acting, everything can be described in any good adjective. Amazing, captivating, beautiful, all of these words fit the film.

I was worried about the characters, thinking about them, hoping everything would turn out for the best. Even during the only battle scene, I didn't want anyone to die. Peaceful native americans who are being told to fight by their "cheif", and Americans who are fighting just to survive after freezing, starving, etc.

If someone didn't like it, I can understand. Im not pulling a "if you didn't like it, your just stupid" or "if you didn't like it, you just didn't get it!". Just some people may find it boring, some may find it pretentious, some may find it brilliant (me), some may find it anything but good. But I say take a chance and experience "The New World"..just for kicks.

10/10

(P.S, don't bring kids. My little brother and his friend came with me, and they HATED it. Just suggesting, because it isn't fun when you keep hearing "This is boring!. This movie is sssoooooo long!". Just warning ya's)

[ilovemovies]

The funny thing with the movie is that in one scene Colin Farrell remarks in a voice over that they have no sense of possession yet when they realize the English settlers aren't leaving they try and drive them out and attack them.

[Lazy Boy]

Was Powhatan distrusting the settlers and wanted them out because he could foresee how the rich natural setting of the land would be overtaken and/or destroyed by the progressive domination of the new world settlers?

I think it depends on how you interpret the quote, as if the natives were possessive (which I don't). More or less, a lot of it stems from Pocahontas' fraternization with Smith -- her father disowns her and she is in all accounts banished from "Eden."

[The Prowler]

Originally posted by eytank
I agree that it was beautiful, but emotional and captivating? The dialog is terrible. The voice overs were suicide inducing. The acting is non-existent. The plot is forgettable. But the nature scenes are magnificent, and that is why it didn't get a 0/10.

I wholehartedly agree. The dialogue bored me to tears. Once the film concluded in that English garden I wanted to applaud because one of the most pointless movies I have ever seen just ended. Actually my friend and I started busted up laughing knowing the torture we both endured squirming in the seats. Its too bad cause the music was an A+, James Horner is incredible and his score helped ease the pain a little. Also the cinematography was spectacular. I loved the beauty of the movie but the moments of silence of poetic bullshit that was spewed during the voiceovers ruined everything for me. What a disappontment as ILOVEMOVIES states.

4/10 (2 points for the awesome Horner musical score and 2 more for the cinematography)

[BigRedNeck]

I went to see it and I thought it was going to like Braveheart meets last of the Mohicans how wrong I was. It was a chick flick and it sucked.

[eytank]

Originally posted by The Prowler
I wholehartedly agree. The dialogue bored me to tears. Once the film concluded in that English garden I wanted to applaud because one of the most pointless movies I have ever seen just ended. Actually my friend and I started busted up laughing knowing the torture we both endured squirming in the seats. Its too bad cause the music was an A+, James Horner is incredible and his score helped ease the pain a little. Also the cinematography was spectacular. I loved the beauty of the movie but the moments of silence of poetic bullshit that was spewed during the voiceovers ruined everything for me. What a disappontment as ILOVEMOVIES states.

4/10 (2 points for the awesome Horner musical score and 2 more for the cinematography)

I actually did aplaud when the movie ended, in that slow mocking way. The entire theator (all seven people) laughed. I was proud when I walked out of the theator. Its not every person who can sit through a movie like that. At least twelve people walked out after the first hour. But I stayed with it. No matter how bad it was (and it was pretty bad), I already had invested $6.50, so I wasn't leaving before the end credits

[Lazy Boy]

Originally posted by The Prowler
2 points for the awesome Horner musical score

Most of the music in the film was not by James Horner. The theme that popped up when the boats arrived at the beginning, and was used in the middle and towards the end? That's a piece by Wagner.

There's also a piano tune -- that's Beethoven.

[silentasylum]

I know this is a movie that only some will enjoy. Mlaick has a way of using poetic shots to tell his story some find it boring but I enjoy his movies. I was looking forward to this movie but it isnt playing anywhere near here...thats what I get for living here.

[silentasylum]

I saw this last night....I may have enjoyed this movie more than most will because I find that shit fascinating, I felt like I was taken to that period in time, but I wish we would have seen more of the Native Americans and their way of life.

8/10